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10-13-2010, 04:09 PM | #26 |
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I've been through some of these sites and noone seems to realize the company side of this..
First off Marvel Legends is a toybiz line.. Toybiz merged with marvel at some point, became part of the marvel company In 2007 marvel entered into a 5 years deal with hasbro to make their toys at some point they got an extension to 2017 (dont have the details) When disney bought marvel in 2009 they acquired toybiz also, and renamed the division "Marvel Toys" Sometime in 2017 Hasbro's deal will be up and most likely Disney will manufacture marvel toys under "Marvel Toys" Considering hasbro is actually something of a rival of disney in terms of their cartoons and the fact that disney has a long standing relationship with mattel I have serious doubts they will keep the venture any longer than they have to. So .. I look forward to real marvel legends toys in 2017! made by the renamed toybiz division called Marvel Toys! hurray for reading! ML started as a Toy Biz toyline but Hasbro took over in 2007. IIRC, Marvel/Disney/Toy Biz can get more profits from licensing out their properties for figures than developing products for them on their own.
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10-13-2010, 04:20 PM | #27 |
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I've been through some of these sites and noone seems to realize the company side of this..
First off Marvel Legends is a toybiz line.. Toybiz merged with marvel at some point, became part of the marvel company In 2007 marvel entered into a 5 years deal with hasbro to make their toys at some point they got an extension to 2017 (dont have the details) When disney bought marvel in 2009 they acquired toybiz also, and renamed the division "Marvel Toys" Sometime in 2017 Hasbro's deal will be up and most likely Disney will manufacture marvel toys under "Marvel Toys" Considering hasbro is actually something of a rival of disney in terms of their cartoons and the fact that disney has a long standing relationship with mattel I have serious doubts they will keep the venture any longer than they have to. So .. I look forward to real marvel legends toys in 2017! made by the renamed toybiz division called Marvel Toys! hurray for reading! Toybiz became Marvel Toys when Hasbro gained the Toy rights back in 2007, and they continued to make toys for TNA Wrestling and that Legends of Comicbooks line Marvel wasnt purchased by Disney in 2009. The initial conversations were made, but the deal didnt happen untill january 2010. Close but no cigar. Hasbro also makes toys for Disney. Their products are featured in the Toy Story films, and even does special products for Walt Disney World. Lastly, Marvel may be a part of Disney, but its its own company. Theres still a high chance that Hasbro will continue to be Marvel's company of choice beyond 2017. |
10-13-2010, 04:33 PM | #28 |
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I'm sorry but theres a lot of inconsistancies in that
Toybiz became Marvel Toys when Hasbro gained the Toy rights back in 2007, and they continued to make toys for TNA Wrestling and that Legends of Comicbooks line Marvel wasnt purchased by Disney in 2009. The initial conversations were made, but the deal didnt happen untill january 2010. Close but no cigar. Hasbro also makes toys for Disney. Their products are featured in the Toy Story films, and even does special products for Walt Disney World. Lastly, Marvel may be a part of Disney, but its its own company. Theres still a high chance that Hasbro will continue to be Marvel's company of choice beyond 2017. |
10-13-2010, 04:54 PM | #29 |
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I've been through some of these sites and noone seems to realize the company side of this..
First off Marvel Legends is a toybiz line.. Toybiz merged with marvel at some point, became part of the marvel company In 2007 marvel entered into a 5 years deal with hasbro to make their toys at some point they got an extension to 2017 (dont have the details) When disney bought marvel in 2009 they acquired toybiz also, and renamed the division "Marvel Toys" Sometime in 2017 Hasbro's deal will be up and most likely Disney will manufacture marvel toys under "Marvel Toys" Considering hasbro is actually something of a rival of disney in terms of their cartoons and the fact that disney has a long standing relationship with mattel I have serious doubts they will keep the venture any longer than they have to. So .. I look forward to real marvel legends toys in 2017! made by the renamed toybiz division called Marvel Toys! hurray for reading! I do follow your logic and I admit it is possible....but its also very conditional and speculative.... In theory why would Disney even need to move it to Mattel or Hasbro? Like you said Disney has "Marvel Toys" which could easily produce Marvel Legends and Marvel Universe by itself... But also...what has Marvel Toys been doing? It had a short run of some lesser known comic book figures but from what I can tell....nothing else? So wouldn't it be in Disney's best interest to leave toy production to a company who is solidified, has a business plan which is seemingly effective both fiscally and to it's customers? I don't know....you do bring up a very good point though. I just pray no one touches Marvel Universe :-/ |
10-13-2010, 05:01 PM | #30 |
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I've been through some of these sites and noone seems to realize the company side of this..
First off Marvel Legends is a toybiz line.. Toybiz merged with marvel at some point, became part of the marvel company In 2007 marvel entered into a 5 years deal with hasbro to make their toys at some point they got an extension to 2017 (dont have the details) When disney bought marvel in 2009 they acquired toybiz also, and renamed the division "Marvel Toys" Sometime in 2017 Hasbro's deal will be up and most likely Disney will manufacture marvel toys under "Marvel Toys" Considering hasbro is actually something of a rival of disney in terms of their cartoons and the fact that disney has a long standing relationship with mattel I have serious doubts they will keep the venture any longer than they have to. So .. I look forward to real marvel legends toys in 2017! made by the renamed toybiz division called Marvel Toys! hurray for reading! Right now, there are NO staff at Marvel/Disney devoted to producing toys in any form (in fact, I think Hasbro snapped up some of the old Toy Biz staff after Legendary Comic crashed and burned at retail) Edit: I was slow, got beat by a ton of people :lol |
10-13-2010, 05:43 PM | #31 |
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Here, here. Add to that the fact that Hasbro has a proven track record handling the Marvel product. My money is on Disney/Marvel keeping the license at Hasbro. It makes much more sense from a business standpoint. Disney/Marvel does not have to invest in tooling all new product and they get paid by Hasbro to use their property. Also, since Hasbro and Marvel already have a really good working relationship it seems that it would be more trouble to take the license somewhere else and start all over again. There is still quite a bit of time before the contract is up, so who knows what will happen between now and then, but I bet Hasbro keeps the license.
Marvel's own EIC has actually worked on Hasbros Product. Not to mention several of their other Artists. I cant imagine any moment in the last decade that Marvels artists drew for Toybiz before Hasbro took it. Only thing I can think of is the X-Men figure series's with their boxart and I'm fairly certain those were ripped from the comics themselves. Not to mention Hasbro and Marvel are making HUGE money on that Super Hero Squad. Kids love it, the Cartoon is entertaining, and its just an all around fun thing that I see no end to it. If any factor proves the success of Marvel/Hasbro, its SHS |
10-13-2010, 06:17 PM | #32 |
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I don't really collect 6 inch anymore but a few figuress i would buy would be
Redos: Storm (the one from the poll would be Excellent) Scarlet Witch (terrible figure for awesome and important character) Phoenix (Light, Dark,, and White Phoenix would be welcomed) Pylocke (never liked the original, Electra Base with new Head would be good) Rouge ( never got and Official ML Rouge just the Box Set and X-men Classics one) Ms Marvel (Used Same Base as Phoenix and I hated that Sculpt need a new one) Kitty Pryde (ML one was good, But I want a classic Shadow Cat) Emma Frost( I don't think i need to explain that one) New figures Dazzler (has really made a comeback recently and hasn't gotten a figure since a Pre-Legends Exclusive figure as far as I know) Polaris (Same as Above) Jubilee Last edited by Aheld92; 10-13-2010 at 06:20 PM.. |
10-13-2010, 06:51 PM | #33 |
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Really good list. It really shows the importance of female characters. They're usually the favorites.
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Rouge ( never got and Official ML Rouge just the Box Set and X-men Classics one)
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Ms Marvel (Used Same Base as Phoenix and I hated that Sculpt need a new one)
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Emma Frost( I don't think i need to explain that one)
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Dazzler (has really made a comeback recently and hasn't gotten a figure since a Pre-Legends Exclusive figure as far as I know)
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10-14-2010, 05:00 AM | #34 |
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Let's see....predictions.
Winter Soldier on a single card Deadpool on a single card Captain America (Bucky) Extremis Iron Man Bleeding Edge Iron Man (Assuming we don't get these two in the "Iron Man Legends" line) X-23 (X-Force uniform) Wolverine (X-Force) Archangel (X-Force...see a pattern? I'm just going to put "The Rest of X Force" in here) Rogue Spider-Man (Dunno which...don't care, we just know we'll be getting him). Modern Thor Steve "Super Soldier" Rogers Luke Cage Daken/Dark Wolverine Gladiator Havok Polaris Nova (Modern) Thanos Obviously we probably won't get these all in the first year, but I'm betting most if not all are "in the parking lot" as Hasbro often says. Of course, I would be remiss without adding: ML-sized versions of Movie-Thor and Movie-Cap (and probably Red Skull and Loki to boot). |
10-14-2010, 09:22 AM | #35 |
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At SDCC, Hasbro said some 6" figures aside from the mass market 6" Iron Man waves would make it to shelves in 2011, I'm guessing this might be movie Cap and Thor figures. If they do Cap, it is an easy way/excuse to bring out a Marvel Legends style New Captain America, and others. The last "modern Cap" we got was in 2006, part of the Face Off 2 packs.
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10-14-2010, 09:32 AM | #36 |
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At SDCC, Hasbro said some 6" figures aside from the mass market 6" Iron Man waves would make it to shelves in 2011, I'm guessing this might be movie Cap and Thor figures. If they do Cap, it is an easy way/excuse to bring out a Marvel Legends style New Captain America, and others. The last "modern Cap" we got was in 2006, part of the Face Off 2 packs.
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10-14-2010, 10:00 AM | #37 |
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A ML Legacy Rogue with all the X-men powers would be really cool. I hope they produce that one.
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10-14-2010, 12:13 PM | #38 |
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Didn't they mention something about a modern Multiple Man, would look to see that.
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10-14-2010, 12:37 PM | #39 |
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I've been through some of these sites and noone seems to realize the company side of this..
First off Marvel Legends is a toybiz line.. Toybiz merged with marvel at some point, became part of the marvel company In 2007 marvel entered into a 5 years deal with hasbro to make their toys at some point they got an extension to 2017 (dont have the details) When disney bought marvel in 2009 they acquired toybiz also, and renamed the division "Marvel Toys" Sometime in 2017 Hasbro's deal will be up and most likely Disney will manufacture marvel toys under "Marvel Toys" Considering hasbro is actually something of a rival of disney in terms of their cartoons and the fact that disney has a long standing relationship with mattel I have serious doubts they will keep the venture any longer than they have to. So .. I look forward to real marvel legends toys in 2017! made by the renamed toybiz division called Marvel Toys! hurray for reading! |
10-14-2010, 12:40 PM | #40 |
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On another note, I think they should brand the new Legends series as Marvel Universe: Legends, or something like that. Just to make the whole line fit as a whole. They could do that with the movie lines too.
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10-21-2010, 12:46 PM | #41 |
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Well some of the facts people added i didnt know, so sure it might make sense for them to keep hasbro, but this comment
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Marvel wasnt purchased by Disney in 2009. The initial conversations were made, but the deal didnt happen untill january 2010. Close but no cigar.
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10-21-2010, 01:36 PM | #42 |
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It could have simply been part of researching the company and its business partners. If I may ask, which division of Disney did you work for last year?
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10-21-2010, 03:36 PM | #43 |
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Redo-
SCARLET WITCH! White Queen New- Finish off the Young Avengers, with Vision, Hawkeye, and Stature Runaways Blink Jean Grey (Jim Lee) One thing I don't get... between Toybiz, Hasbro, and Mattel, NO ONE seems capable of making a decent girl. DC Direct, and Marvel Select seem perfectly capable of making decent looking girls, on simular scales. |
10-21-2010, 08:26 PM | #44 |
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SCARLET WITCH! White Queen New- Finish off the Young Avengers, with Vision, Hawkeye, and Stature Runaways Blink Jean Grey (Jim Lee) One thing I don't get... between Toybiz, Hasbro, and Mattel, NO ONE seems capable of making a decent girl. DC Direct, and Marvel Select seem perfectly capable of making decent looking girls, on simular scales.
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10-21-2010, 08:52 PM | #45 |
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The Joe team and SW team are separate from the Marvel team, so the comparisons really don't count. Or at least, they defiantely have the six inch lines coming up dramatically short. As is, in the history of ML, and DCUC, there have only been a couple girls that even approached half way decent. ESPECIALLY since Toybiz did some spectacular women pre-ML. I also don't have the slightest idea who or what bombstrike is. |
10-21-2010, 08:52 PM | #46 |
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I'm really into the New Ultimates: Ultimate Marvel Legends Redo:
Ultimate Thor Ultimate Hawkeye(with the ninja like mask and crossbow guns) Ultimate Valkyrie with the new Wings. Ultimate Ironman (Black Armor) Ultimate Captain America with more guns, and ammo belt. |
10-21-2010, 09:32 PM | #47 |
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i also want new ultimates team and series :
- ultimate iron man (with more articulated and helm like in MU new series) - ultimate thor - ultimate Capt america with lot of accesorries - ultimate HULK - ultimate Hawkeye (the variant is the mask one maybe hehehe) - ultimate Nick fury (the variant maybe the one he wear in Voulme 2 TPB) - ultimate scarlet witch / quicksilver / WASP BAF : Ultimate giant man
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10-22-2010, 02:05 AM | #48 |
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The new ultimate ironman should be easy to do, It looks just like the Mark 4 just black and silver.Too Bad we have to wait until 2012 to see what's coming out.
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10-22-2010, 03:52 AM | #49 |
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I've been through some of these sites and noone seems to realize the company side of this..
First off Marvel Legends is a toybiz line.. Toybiz merged with marvel at some point, became part of the marvel company In 2007 marvel entered into a 5 years deal with hasbro to make their toys at some point they got an extension to 2017 (dont have the details) When disney bought marvel in 2009 they acquired toybiz also, and renamed the division "Marvel Toys" Sometime in 2017 Hasbro's deal will be up and most likely Disney will manufacture marvel toys under "Marvel Toys" Considering hasbro is actually something of a rival of disney in terms of their cartoons and the fact that disney has a long standing relationship with mattel I have serious doubts they will keep the venture any longer than they have to. So .. I look forward to real marvel legends toys in 2017! made by the renamed toybiz division called Marvel Toys! hurray for reading! Disney and Hasbro aren't really rivals either. They both handle stuff from the other on occasion, like the disney monopoly games, and some other board games. They worked together previously on many lines and Disney movie lines in the past as well. Mr. Potato head for example is Hasbro owned too. Add in the Star Wars fact too. (Star tours at disney), and you can bet Disney will never do anything to strain that relationship. Mattel won't get the Marvel license in 2017, Marvel toys maybe but doubtful. Disney will play nice so they can keep doing the disney board games, and Disney label transformers in japan. They won't hamper this at all by making posturing like movements. WB and Mattel are more of a threat to disney than Hasbro is. Disney is more likely to attempt to buy Hasbro to bring them into the fold character library and all, than piss them off. WB itself is a direct competitor to disney and disney media. Now, that being said. I mostly just want Darkhawk, X-23 (all costumes but the fang suit), and anti-venom. Last edited by Snowflakian; 10-22-2010 at 03:56 AM.. |
10-23-2010, 08:30 AM | #50 |
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Bleeding edge iron man Spider-man noir Spider-man 2099 Ultimate thor Spider-ham War machine Ultimate deadpool(the deadpool in spider-man shattered dimensions) |
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