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09-04-2016, 02:29 PM | #251 |
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Too many years of not talking about it when for years it was a daily IRC conversation thing. In fact, that entire conversation on tropes the genre uses, design cues, and origins of each was a conversation I've had before. Though that was before Wizard and Gaim or Ghost.
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*Shrug* It comes in handy in various ways depending on your hobbies or work. Also comes in handy with trying to figure out market trends etc. among other stuff. Anticipating the market helps me keep my wallet from getting too stressed out. (Though titans return is really making it cry a lot right now!) And then sometimes you'll miss the obvious like how easily Construct bots could have been turned into custom transforming GI Joe vehicles. (I'm still facepalming over not picking up Ironhide, Bumblebee, Deadend, Shockwave, Starscream, Silverbolt, and cliffjumper now that I saw that potential in minor tweaks. Really praying hard Hasbro finds a way to bring those back to market under a new product banner, or I'll eventually scavenge Ebay for them cheap and complete hopefully!)
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09-06-2016, 11:59 AM | #253 |
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I think this is a stylized figure but is 4" and looks pretty cool.
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09-06-2016, 07:37 PM | #254 |
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I think this is a stylized figure but is 4" and looks pretty cool.
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09-06-2016, 10:14 PM | #255 |
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Finally got my Stronger/Black wave. Very happy with it.
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09-06-2016, 10:23 PM | #256 |
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I'm loving Shadowmoon and Black from that series, and do plan on eventually getting Stronger, and any other classics they do besides 01, 02, and v3 (got the MRS movie versions already and prefer that updated aesthetic), but I really wish they had made Tackle. Especially if they did what SIC did in giving her a head with Rider-like mouth guard. It feels outright wrong to get Stronger and his upgraded form and not have her.
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09-06-2016, 11:07 PM | #257 |
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Tackle would be awesome. Plus I will always want some more bloody female figs in this scale.
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09-07-2016, 09:13 AM | #258 |
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Kinda want one of the Rival Schools franchise too. Wonder if they could talk capcom into both. An Akira figure in her Skull helmet biker outfit to go with Kamen Rider would be really freaking epic. Last edited by Snowflakian; 09-07-2016 at 12:13 PM.. |
09-07-2016, 12:38 PM | #259 |
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I love fighting games so I'd buy the shit out of any they'd release.
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Got my wave yesterday too, and already made some custom painting on Shadow Moon. It ended better than I tought, I'm happy with the result.
Next step: Paint all his hands and think about the better option to complete the wrists and legs paint on Black. Aldo, I tottaly agree, I'd preffer a Tackle fig to the charge up version or the second Titan... Last edited by Megavolt; 09-08-2016 at 08:47 AM.. |
09-08-2016, 08:51 AM | #261 |
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They might be saving Tackle for later. But I hope they do make a figure of her.
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Is there anything for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure in this scale? If not that's actually my vote for "Japanese thing I want in this scale the most".
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09-08-2016, 10:13 AM | #263 |
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Jojo would be a neat one. Guilty Gear too maybe. Akira from Rival Schools I wanted mostly because she pretty much is a female version of Skullman/Skull Rider. A Fatal Fury line would be fun too. Rock Howard and Terry Bogard, even Mai Shiranui. Though I'd also hope for maybe a new Dead or Alive one then since Mai is over there now as a cameo playable character, and that'd give them an excuse for Hayabusa & Ayane too, maybe even a Sarah Bryant. |
09-08-2016, 10:33 AM | #264 |
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The only "problem" I have with fighting game lines is that I'd be upset if they didn't release every primary costume of every single character ha ha. Could you imagine how many Athena Asamiya figures there would be? Holy crap.
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09-08-2016, 10:37 AM | #265 |
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Not to mention how many are straight up only re-colors anyway. Great way to re-use molds, but also a great way to kill a line when you have 6 of the same character and most only buy one.
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Because it was the 70's (See also: Battle Fever J and every magical girl show ever) and because Tackle isn't a Kamen Rider. I know, I know, she basically is one in all but name, but the fiction has gone through a lot of hoops to make it clear that she isn't a Kamen Rider.
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Because it was the 70's (See also: Battle Fever J and every magical girl show ever) and because Tackle isn't a Kamen Rider. I know, I know, she basically is one in all but name, but the fiction has gone through a lot of hoops to make it clear that she isn't a Kamen Rider.
She's still left off the formal count of lead riders. Part of the problem with that is in the titling. With ZX being the formal 10th rider(per his movie title), Tackle's addition creates a counting issue(though that's also remedied because she's the only rider to have stayed dead, so she is no longer a 'current' rider because, well the obvious). It moves every rider up by one from Stronger(5th series, 7th rider) to present. Though it also makes the counting kind of fun as then it makes shadowmoon the 13th rider. And Magical Girls vary, though the aesthetic is usually skirt and most of the time at least some form of leggings even if they are only stockings/panty hose. But even so, thinking about it from a story point, if you create a character that has her strength in a kicking move, you'd think you'd protect that part instead of leaving it open. This is coming from a design standpoint within the confines of the story itself as they were creating an army and generals so to speak. Campiness of the 70s permitting, still story-wise it's an oversight or was to evoke the actress' own ballet training. Cutie Honey is also from the 70s though, and she's pure leggings/tights in her design. She's 1973. So even in the time period, leg coverings were considered for women heroes. Other Sentai series of the time did cover the legs too. (Goranger and JAKQ both had leg coverings.) Battle Fever J being a design difference due to emulating other comic book hero concepts of the past. Miss America from it was an homage to the original Marvel Miss America(think they even wrote in that they were related), and that original costume design did have a skirt though also has a few variations too. The original had tights that covered her legs originally, but that could also be a restriction due to when she was originally created. So in that instance, the skirt is more a representation of being free to display her legs freely without being forced to not. Tackle herself is a pure original design that didn't have those homage and history design restrictions. Per how she was created allegedly as a fan written letter from a girl that wanted representation to play with the boys who were playing kamen rider also suggests in design concept she probably should have had some kind of leg coverings still for protection(though due to that nature of playing outside, that could also be why they leaned the shorts/skirt style to fit young women wardrobes of the time possibly too but who knows). It still stands out as odd from a story-centered point though. As no other woman from shocker/affiliates has shorts as her main uniform. So much so that SIC corrected it by giving her a rider mouth guard and the tights are debatable as some artwork suggests white tights, but the figure itself has none. This proves kind of funny though also, as Riderman doesn't have a mouth guard still. Yeah, I've had this Kamen Rider Tackle discussion before too. Last edited by Snowflakian; 09-09-2016 at 11:47 AM.. |
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If you expect people to read your full posts, please stop writing essays. Only relevant thing you said in all of that was the line about the all rider kick, which I will give you. The rest is superfluous.
Even though the OOO/Den-O movie is kind of an Alternate Universe after the time travel, I'll still give it to you since the movie seems to consider every character to be the originals rather than the AU versions. Decade is still a bunch of AU nonsense though. PS Tackle's design is meant to be girly/sexy for the 70's. That means showing legs. It's not suppose to make since. Cutie Honey is the same, the design just doesn't objectify the legs (rather her whole body since Cutie Honey is nude a lot). Last edited by Blade Raider; 09-11-2016 at 08:36 AM.. |
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If you expect people to read your full posts, please stop writing essays. Only relevant thing you said in all of that was the line about the all rider kick, which I will give you. The rest is superfluous.
Even though the OOO/Den-O movie is kind of an Alternate Universe after the time travel, I'll still give it to you since the movie seems to consider every character to be the originals rather than the AU versions. Decade is still a bunch of AU nonsense though. PS Tackle's design is meant to be girly/sexy for the 70's. That means showing legs. It's not suppose to make since. Cutie Honey is the same, the design just doesn't objectify the legs (rather her whole body since Cutie Honey is nude a lot). Don't really care what you think about how I write posts as I did bring up many counterpoints to your 70s argument and explained why BFJ's Miss America has the design she has which even the series itself tells you that. I also prefer being informative for anyone else that decides to visit the forums, and may be interested in joining, or become interested on reading up on characters instead of a quick two lines or adhd style clapback that's inane & forgettable anyway. By bringing up the objectification point though you're also admitting then it is sexist reasons derived for the choices, well, in your opinion at least as the original design notes on Tackle have never been fully discussed from the creators. As I said, the only origin for her character that we are aware of from a creative standpoint was a little girl writing a letter in to the producers. (According to the wikis at least, but it's not the first time I've heard that story either.) So directly making her a "sexy fighter" seems counter productive to what the original driving intent was of her character creation. Or if you need that simplified: "You're assuming." Toei never did that directly to their Sentai brand of the time outside of Miss America which has history connotations of her design for influence and the homage she is to a classic Marvel character, which makes her an exception to and not the rule. So why they did that to Tackle does raise questions, but also has many possibilities on why outside of 'objectification' or trying to make her 'sexy.' So it is a fair question to ask and wonder about why as well as not assume their reasoning for. This was a kid's show after all. You know, the whole reason original Amazon was cancelled because of too much gore violence in a kids show and all that. So directly making a female character with a sexist design to have her legs objectified, wouldn't make logical sense to the end goal of her concept of letting girls see themselves in her. Cutie Honey is also a little more complicated than that. Original Cutie Honey is a bit more on self-mockery of the innate sexist attitudes and hypocrisies of taboos with an emphasis of dressing up/the right clothes for any occasion and much more depth than that. It wasn't intended as one of his erotica type series, that came later with the OVAs. Original Go Nagai work is cheeky like that with how he handled tropes and themes. Then we get to the 80s OVA one that's a bit, well complicated doesn't even begin to cover it. But the original artistic intent is still moderately there through 80s grit(and potentially a venting point for the flack one of his previous series got from Parent groups). Plus we are also talking about Japan where the focus of objectification and views of human anatomy are a bit different than American or even European views. And we are also talking about the same guy that created properties like Devilman, and similar other theme inverted properties, including his theme inversion to the giant robo genre that eventually gave us Gundam and the various Mecha types we know today. Most modern Magical girls in general have a basis from the typical school girl uniform and prettying that up so to speak. In other areas it's because of dresses and the royalty connotations of that to make them princess warriors. The outfits vary per series and story. Like original Cure Black has an emphasis more towards sports attire with also armor pads and lacrosse shin guards because of how far up her leggings go and as bulkier cylindrical style socks with knee pad like hearts, instead of being as poofy and sloped as Cure White's that's more billowy noble science princess with tassels on her knee high socks. Sailor Moon is for the regal aspect as well as intermingling the sailor style school girl uniforms of the time. Magic Knight Rayearth is their actual school girl uniforms that they were pulled into the Rayearth world while wearing. And the list goes on and on for Magical Girls and why the outfits vary per the story it's based on and the character attributes themselves. In essence for most, the idea was to say "Pretty can be bad ass." Same thing Cutie Honey focuses on. That you can be or do anything(as each outfit change also gave her the skills needed for whichever she became). The sexualizing of that is a different issue entirely. The origin of the Magical Girl genre itself is in attacking forced gender roles, and that includes attire. You can see that in many series still like Revolutionary Girl with its original basis coming from the first intellectual properties of the genre like Princess Knight. So really, even Magical Girls aren't as simple as 'surface level' what it looks like for the choices and has its own rich history associated connected to its own story for reasoning on why. One could even argue many elements of the transformation scenes themselves are about natural body acceptance, and baring down to dress up and express the real inner you or many more metaphors that can be drawn from that as is common in all media forays. While Go Nagai may have been being a bit, well, he's Go Nagai, he has his own history. Cutie Honey is also counted as one of the lead inspirations for many Magical Girl genres that followed. I don't think the creator of Sailor Moon had her intent on giving little boys sexy material by doing transformation scenes and having nudity(in the series itself the biggest scene of this at the end is because of Usagi baring it all to take on evil and fight for her future even as bleak as it may look with her thinking Mamorou is dead from a plane crash). So the aspect of Honey's nudity to her transitions may have served a different reason than what the surface level looks like to most males. Ditto to Rumiko Takahashi with her various series that often had bare breasts or her creation of Lum and her tiger striped bikini. I don't think any of them looked at it and went "gee, let's put sex on tv for little boys to stare at because men love sexy women!" Even Go Nagai in his first major work that featured nudity, pushed emphasis on cute and natural, not on sexiness or sexual overtones. His initial work focused more on the male perception of that and how ignorant it is(which still caused parent groups to throw a fit, but that's normal). Essentially his initial work had an emphasis of "men are horny idiots that'll pervert anything." His work focused more towards that women could appreciate the cuteness of themselves no matter what they wore or didn't. With how much forethought goes into these choices across all series and art itself really, it does make why Tackle having shorts an interesting question, and yes a funny joke to poke fun at that wasn't looking for a serious answer. And the answer to that is probably as simple as the fact they are evocative of gym shorts used in many sports. So girls can pretend they've got the strength of Tackle behind them while playing soccer or lacrosse or any other sport that uses those shorts as opposed to the reasoning of "sexy/girly" gender typing. I mean she does have the literal name "Tackle." So it's best not to assume objectification reasons without evidence to support it from the designers own words. We can propose theories, even suggest possibilities, but to say absolutes without actual basis is propagating ignorance and demeans not only the creators, but also the character's intent and internal metaphors. And PS don't try to take ego shots. Let's keep it civil, and don't try to poke at areas you have no business or right to invade or allude to. We're friendly discussing Rider and Sentai history, as the predominate 4'' lines from Japan with high demand are in those areas. (Besides of course DB/Z/Supers, but we have Shodo for those now.) Which okay yeah, the history of various genres does play into that for the design elements both past and present. And yes, I'm intentionally making this post long because you complained about long posts, but I'm also making it informative. Like I said up above, talking about this stuff used to be a daily thing for me for over a decade and that's not even counting the genre research I've done prior to that before it was readily available on the internet. I'm well read up on this stuff outside of even what the wikis have(though I do use those for refreshers at times). And "Sexy" isn't innately bad either, as it depends on the reasoning behind it and more. It's not clear cut sexy is bad, covered is good. There are a lot of grey areas and other history to take into consideration alongside whatever the metaphors are intentionally pushing. Art is more complicated than black or white reasoning. Oooh, but you reminded me of an interesting point. Kinda surprised Cutie Honey The Live(series) didn't get the 4'' figure treatment. Or the movie for that matter. They were both more adult aimed. The TV series more so. So you'd think they would have considered that for the fan base because of how Japan's market is typically driven. @TheArchivist Speaking of, how do the Drossel minis compare to hasbro 3.75''-4''? I've never had a chance to get one to see. I know the normal figmas are too big. There are also 4'' Sailor Moon and Magic Knight Rayearth figures too. I think I might still have the Rayearth ones somewhere. They have no leg articulation though. Only arm articulation. And I think there is a 4'' microman Devilman and Lady that was made. Not sure. I know they did the various Casshern versions. No clue on other metal heroes series, but those should get covered eventually. Last edited by Snowflakian; 09-11-2016 at 03:13 PM.. |
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@TheArchivist Speaking of, how do the Drossel minis compare to hasbro 3.75''-4''? I've never had a chance to get one to see. I know the normal figmas are too big. There are also 4'' Sailor Moon and Magic Knight Rayearth figures too. I think I might still have the Rayearth ones somewhere. They have no leg articulation though. Only arm articulation. And I think there is a 4'' microman Devilman and Lady that was made. Not sure. I know they did the various Casshern versions. No clue on other metal heroes series, but those should get covered eventually. 4" Sailor Moon would be great. I've seen some statue like figures in the 4 " range but not actual figures. I did get the SH Figurarts Rini Chibi-Usa for my daughter. My wife is a big Sailor Moon fan and we actually nick-named our daughter Rini after that character. That figure is about 4" and would be a perfect base for Sailor Moon customs if she wasn't so expensive. For Devilman are you talking about these? Last edited by theArchivist; 09-12-2016 at 06:16 AM.. |
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Not an articulated one yet at least. Not sure if he was made in the arm articulated ones though. They really only have rotation shoulders.
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4" Sailor Moon would be great. I've seen some statue like figures in the 4 " range but not actual figures. I did get the SH Figurarts Rini Chibi-Usa for my daughter. My wife is a big Sailor Moon fan and we actually nick-named our daughter Rini after that character. That figure is about 4" and would be a perfect base for Sailor Moon customs if she wasn't so expensive. Aww that's cute on the Sailor moon nickname! And yeah they are pretty close to inaction figures. No leg articulation and only shoulder rotation. But you're right, they could make awesome custom fodder! Especially the accessories they come with. And I think those were the devil man ones. Not sure. I haven't seen them in ages and don't remember if Microman did a movie series one too or hyper detailed one like they did for movie Casshern. Last edited by Snowflakian; 09-12-2016 at 03:27 PM.. |
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I like the 4" EXE. I hope someone got vanilla Rock so we can see how that looks.
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