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Aw shit!
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Praetorian crossed my mind but I don't know. Most versions of the praetorian give them a queen-like crest since they are infant queens. It could be an original design for all I know, it's not anything I'm recognizing.
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Spitter or Arachnid.
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It looks similar to the Spitter but I'd hope NECA would steer clear of that awful game for as long as possible. Also the Spitter head was totally smooth on top except for the spikey bits, it didn't have the ridged bony warrior-like section. Spitters also had those axe attachments on their sides. It could be a Kenner because way too many of the Kenner aliens didn't have enough discerning detail to be able to predict what NECA will do with them. For all we know it could be Arachnid, maybe Scorpion, or even a stretched interpretation of Panther.
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Cougar/Panther came to mind for me, but Google 'unproduced Kenner Alien toys' and look for the one that folds up into an egg. Crest is identical, if maybe left field for NECA.
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![]() Personally, I really hope that the sculpt being previewed is for the Spitter, because A:CM is one of my favourite games, and seeing NECA produce any of its creatures would mean we're that much closer to the titular Marines, or even better, the Weyland-Yutani PMCs. ![]() ![]() Quote:
Also the Spitter head was totally smooth on top except for the spikey bits, it didn't have the ridged bony warrior-like section. Spitters also had those axe attachments on their sides. It could be a Kenner because way too many of the Kenner aliens didn't have enough discerning detail to be able to predict what NECA will do with them. For all we know it could be Arachnid, maybe Scorpion, or even a stretched interpretation of Panther.
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If NECA had any tendency to "steer clear" of "awful games" they would never have produced those Isolation figures.
![]() Personally, I really hope that the sculpt being previewed is for the Spitter, because A:CM is one of my favourite games, and seeing NECA produce any of its creatures would mean we're that much closer to the titular Marines, or even better, the Weyland-Yutani PMCs. ![]() Quote:
Maybe, but then again, NECA has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to futz over certain details, so, for example, Vasquez has no knife strapped to her boot nor Frost to his belt, Hudson has no bandages on the fingers of his right hand, Hicks's chin-straps hang loose off his helmet (which has raised, visible bolts all along the reinforced frontal plate) and the clamps on the Marine lamp-pack are mis-positioned.
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Re: games; I never played Isolation but I watched a playthrough online and I will say that it didn't look like a game for me. I'm not huge into games where I'm gonna be hiding in a locker for minutes waiting for the AI enemy to leave the room. I also thought the ending was poo since it just sorta ends. Isolation did look great though but then most current gen games look good thanks to video-tech advances. I did play CM because a friend of mine got it and it was just so mediocre. I was clipping through everything (that was actually funny when I wound up inside the other marines so I could see through their teeth but it's still bad) and then multiple times I would run face-first into an alien only for them to just stare at me and do nothing. It didn't feel like I was playing in the world of Aliens when the aliens weren't threatening to attack me at all. It sucked the most because I remember thinking that the first trailer was pretty damn cool, the one that they ended up getting sued over for claiming it was "actual gameplay" even though the final product didn't look half as good. Hey on the bright side it's still not the worst video game about aliens, that title goes to the champ of bad: ET. I'm sure we'll learn more about this sculpt withing following weeks or by Toy Fair for sure (I don't know of any other conventions/showings in between now and then where they could show more). I feel like some Kenner homage is the more likely guess but I suppose we'll just have to see.
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I'm seeing either the Kenner Killer Crab, Arachnid or the Wild Boar Alien, which if they do the latter, I can picture him having a swap out head to replicate the action feature "spines" that popped out of the Boar Alien's head when he was lowered to the ground. I'm not seeing the Scorpion Alien here, because in reality, the original Kenner figure was intended to be a representation of the maturized Xeno the USMC faced in Aliens, and there was nothing really scorpion-like about it. Of course, NECA could take some liberties and create something new for it, but theoretically, they have already done Scorpion a few times now, and I think in the long run, when he is released, he will probably be a repaint with minimal retooling like Renegade "Pudding" Predator was...
EDIT: Some photo references to the Xenos I mentioned... Scorpion ![]() Killer Crab (who actually looks more like a scorpion than the "scorpion" alien does...lol) ![]() Wild Boar ![]() Arachnid (who on a second look, the new head sculpt looks closest to this guy...) ![]() Last edited by Trivial Psychic; 10-08-2016 at 04:03 PM.. |
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I'm seeing either the Kenner Killer Crab, Arachnid or the Wild Boar Alien, which if they do the latter, I can picture him having a swap out head to replicate the action feature "spines" that popped out of the Boar Alien's head when he was lowered to the ground. I'm not seeing the Scorpion Alien here, because in reality, the original Kenner figure was intended to be a representation of the maturized Xeno the USMC faced in Aliens, and there was nothing really scorpion-like about it. Of course, NECA could take some liberties and create something new for it, but theoretically, they have already done Scorpion a few times now, and I think in the long run, when he is released, he will probably be a repaint with minimal retooling like Renegade "Pudding" Predator was...
Edit: The more I look at this the more I agree with suchaname that it really does look like the alien we never actually got with the big egg on its butt that opened up.
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I think they're the inspiration for those people who worship the xenomorphs in the comics.
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In the first film they make a clear point that the crew are basically just space truckers and that they have no weapons or experience to combat such a creature. They have to scrounge up what they can to make a flamethrower and the other things are just cattle-prods. Of course the alien kills all but one of them. Had the crew been all ex-marines who were armed with guns the only person Big Chap would've killed for sure would have been Kain. The threat of the alien in the first film was that it was alone and could hide to pick off the crew one by one with little opposition. In Aliens the threat wasn't that each alien was capable of killing five guys on its own the threat was that there were a ton of them fighting a single unit of soldiers in confined spaces.
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I also thought the ending was poo since it just sorta ends. Isolation did look great though but then most current gen games look good thanks to video-tech advances. I did play CM because a friend of mine got it and it was just so mediocre. I was clipping through everything (that was actually funny when I wound up inside the other marines so I could see through their teeth but it's still bad) and then multiple times I would run face-first into an alien only for them to just stare at me and do nothing. It didn't feel like I was playing in the world of Aliens when the aliens weren't threatening to attack me at all.
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It sucked the most because I remember thinking that the first trailer was pretty damn cool, the one that they ended up getting sued over for claiming it was "actual gameplay" even though the final product didn't look half as good. Hey on the bright side it's still not the worst video game about aliens, that title goes to the champ of bad: ET.
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I'm sure we'll learn more about this sculpt withing following weeks or by Toy Fair for sure (I don't know of any other conventions/showings in between now and then where they could show more). I feel like some Kenner homage is the more likely guess but I suppose we'll just have to see.
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So I guess on Twitter they sorta confirmed it is from the Aliens: Defiance comic series. NECA retweeted some account which stated that that's what it is and that it'll be in series 11. Still gonna be waiting for more information.
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It does seem really out there since it's such a new comic you'd figure it isn't THAT popular but then again Genocide isn't terrifically popular and it has some and is getting more figures. Honestly something from a comic is likely more well known than a figure based solely on concept and the concept design Big Chap and albino Warrior were received great by the fans. It's likely a safer bet for a figure than some other things they could have pulled from. I can't seem to find any images though of whatever it is in the comic that looks like this but then I haven't tried very hard at it.
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Didn't even know they were still making Aliens and Predator comics. Guess I have some digging to do.
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After Prometheus came out they had a boost of interest at Dark Horse to start doing stuff with Alien, Predator, and Engineer too. We got some stuff just to mix the new species better in with the others. I think the big popular one (that NECA pulled the Ahab Predator from) was called Fire and Stone which had stories in all of the running books like an Engineer versus a Predator.
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That does sound like it'd be a pretty sweet fight.
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I thought it was a neat fight since Engineers were shown to be physically imposing and fairly tough in Prometheus and we already knew that Predators were also far superior to humans physically. Of course the predator won because between the two you could more easily spin the predator as the "good guy" and he also had some of his weapons to use (mainly his wrist-blades and plasma caster). The Engineer put up a fight though and I guess since they're biology wizards they know where to put the hurt to stop an enemy.
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Honestly something from a comic is likely more well known than a figure based solely on concept and the concept design Big Chap and albino Warrior were received great by the fans. It's likely a safer bet for a figure than some other things they could have pulled from.
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I thought it was a neat fight since Engineers were shown to be physically imposing and fairly tough in Prometheus and we already knew that Predators were also far superior to humans physically. Of course the predator won because between the two you could more easily spin the predator as the "good guy"...
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Between the 3 species it's easiest to spin the predators as the being the best option. Ever since the first AVP comics there has always been a "hero" predator that works with or at the very least doesn't kill the humans. The aliens are always just savage animals that kill on instinct which makes them the go to bad guys and the engineers while not fully explored definitely harbor no love for any race and seem intent on destroying humans. Predators have an honor system so it's easy to write out a plot where this honor system makes them the alien species we root for.
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Between the 3 species it's easiest to spin the predators as the being the best option. Ever since the first AVP comics there has always been a "hero" predator that works with or at the very least doesn't kill the humans... and the engineers while not fully explored definitely harbor no love for any race and seem intent on destroying humans.
If I were a Psychology major, I'm sure I could pen a fascinating term-paper on the neuroses behind writing for the latter. I mean, you have to be a pretty odd duck to fantasize about identifying with and finding favour from a stratum of ostensibly superior beings that normally consider your kind game animals... Last edited by Jester; 10-10-2016 at 10:15 AM.. |
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That may be so, but we don't know for certain yet what the Engineers' intentions are, or if they're a monolithic bloc with regards to their attitudes towards their apparent offshoots, and as the Engineers are apparently also humans (of a sort, anyway) according to Prometheus, I'd rather cheer for them than a bunch of reptilo-arthropoid pseudo-primitives whose entire society revolves around hunting other species, including humans.
If I were a Psychology major, I'm sure I could pen a fascinating term-paper on the neuroses behind writing for the latter. I mean, you have to be a pretty odd duck to fantasize about identifying with and finding favour from a stratum of ostensibly superior beings that normally consider your kind game animals...
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