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Hasbro Discovery Venture Unaffected By Disney Marvel Buyout
Posted on 09-02-2009 at 08:49 PM by Shin Densetsu under Marvel Toy News.
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The Disney buyout of Marvel has sparked much discussion and speculation regarding the aftermath, with many fans wondering how Hasbro's plans with Marvel-based properties will be affected. Brought up was Hasbro's venture with Discovery Channel, and Projo.com shed light on this:

PAWTUCKET — A Hasbro Inc. spokesman says the Pawtucket toymaker’s deal to create a new TV network won’t be hurt by Monday’s announcement that Walt Disney Co. will acquire Marvel Entertainment Inc.

Wells Fargo stock analyst Tim Conder said in a research note to investors that Disney’s deal for Marvel could put a wrinkle in Hasbro’s plans for programming on the new Discovery channel.

“It is highly likely that Disney will want to retain Marvel-related programming content for its own channels of distribution,” Conder noted.

But Hasbro spokesman Wayne Charness said the characters covered under its license with Marvel aren’t the only ones around which the toymaker could craft storylines for the Discovery venture.

“They certainly are only one of the many potential sources for TV content,” Charness said.
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Joe Moore:
Not toys related...Yet. But it is of interest to our Marvel fans.

Disney Buys Marvel | IshTalkers

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Walt Disney Corporation has bought Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion according to reports.
The Walt Disney Co. (DIS-N26.84––%) says it is acquiring Marvel Entertainment Inc. (MVL-N38.65––%) for $4-billion in cash and stock, bringing characters like Iron Man and Spider-Man into the Disney family.

Under the deal, Disney will acquire ownership of 5,000 Marvel characters.

Disney said Monday that Marvel shareholders will receive $30 per share in cash plus 0.745 Disney shares for every Marvel share they own.

It said the boards of Disney and Marvel have both approved the transaction, but it requires an antitrust review and the approval of Marvel shareholders.
This is really a crazy news story. Marvel just got a whole lot more money to back their projects. This will clearly send shockwaves through their various divisions, as well as the industry as a whole. Imagine going to Disney World and having a Marvel themed park there instead of Universal Studios? Crazy.
ludovicotek:
I was reading about this on Yahoo earlier. I thought the same exact thing concerning the Marvel section at Universal's Islands of Adventure. What will happen to that?

This is absolutely HUGE news! I'm definitely interested in hearing more about the outcome of this deal.
MegaPrime33:
I don't know how I feel about this. I guess it comes down to how the Marvel characters and story lines will be handled. This could be Pixar Marvel movies too, along with Marvel themed rides at the Disney Parks. I would imagine Disney is going to market the crap out of the Avengers movie, including a possible ride. That would be interesting.
Super_Megatron:
Crazy. I wonder how Disney will feel about properties like the Punisher?
ghostdog0081:
I'm very mixed up about this. The possibility of marvel pixar sounds good.....but if they waiver from story lines to far it could cause me to be very very sad. On second thought they have screwed up several story lines anyway. I would like to read more about what this all means
Joe Moore:
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Crazy. I wonder how Disney will feel about properties like the Punisher?
They would probably use a subsidiary to release something like that (film wise). Fortunately, they are no stranger to R-rated movies, releasing them via Mirimax or Touchstone. I'm guessing (or hoping) Marvel Studios will have the same freedoms.
megatronkicksas:
Is Hasbro loosing it's license? I'm freaking out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Moore:
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Is Hasbro loosing it's license? I'm freaking out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hasbro's license is in place until 2012. A buyout doesn't change that contract.
pud333:
I'm kinda surprised by this news, but I don't think there should be much concern for how Disney would effect Marvel's properties. They own Miramax and they're pretty much a separate entity, allowed to do their own thing. To be honest, most Marvel comics aren't that "dark" or edgy (at least not the most popular characters) in any real controversial sense. Yeah, Punisher is violent, but it's not anything people aren't already used to. I think it will be fine.

Although if you take the Fahrenheit 9/11 example, Disney refused to distribute it but the Weinsteins ended up buying the property and distributing it under the Miramax banner. So I dunno. In the end, these are comic book characters, so I don't think it's a big deal for Disney. I'm sure Marvel will just continue the status quo.
LUCKYDUBE:
I'm sure everything will stay the same in the MARVEL world, everything will go according to plan as if DISNEY hadn't been in the picture.... I think all things MARVEL will be safe except for universal theme park rides, DISNEY is just a financial backing. I dont think MARVEL would sell itself to DISNEY for only $4B and not have control over anything....I mean come on SPIDERMAN alone is worth that much!!!
Joe Moore:
I think, in my personal view, that it will be mainly about merchandising. The comics and movies will likely just have more money behind them. Kids shows might end up on the Disney channels exclusively. But the real money for Disney will come from cross-promoted merchandise. Super Hero themed Disney characters will undoubtedly begin to show up over the coming year. Marvel products will have a presence at Disney retail stores and theme parks.
Runamuck:
I hope they don't change too much when they don't have to. Messing with characters that have been around decades would be a no-no, imo. I, too, will wait and see.

On a side note, I wish I had 4 Billion dollars in cash.
megatronkicksas:
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Hasbro's license is in place until 2012. A buyout doesn't change that contract.
Thank you.
ludovicotek:
I'm with the others who mentioned that there shouldn't be too much to worry about. I believe Disney is buying Marvel to secure another stream of revenue. I don't think that they'll be interfering too much with how Marvel operates.
Da_Last_2_Walk:
Mickey Mouse VS. Wolverine!

FTW!
Kluster Bombs:
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Hasbro's license is in place until 2012. A buyout doesn't change that contract.
I thought it was 2017.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-...8100&offset=25
scarecrow:
I just heard about this a few hours ago. I hope that only good things come out of this, like Iron Man 2 being done on VR Headsets. They can do that at Disney, right, RIGHT???

I responded to the friend who told me by saying that "this would be interesting", and then he said "By interesting then you mean Deadpool in Kingdom Hearts." I cracked up.
RenegadeReviews:
"...bringing characters like Iron Man and Spider-Man to..."

That fragment is inaccurate, as Sony will be retaining Spider-Man, much like Fox will retain the X-Men.
Joe Moore:
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Even better.
Joe Moore:
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"...bringing characters like Iron Man and Spider-Man to..."

That fragment is inaccurate, as Sony will be retaining Spider-Man, much like Fox will retain the X-Men.
They retain the "MOVIE" rights, not the comic, cartoon, licensing, toy, or any other merchandising rights. Those all now belong to Disney...Or will when this gets approved.
deceptifocus:
this kinda scares me, like wolverines losing his claws....

although i kinda see this could be good in ways, maybe more animated features like WB does for DC,(i thought they made them anyway) i kinda see this sort of being a tactic for Disney against WB.
CyberScream95:
o_0 Uh.. Well should be interesting to see how things change.
torque94:
well that 2012 thing looks to be possible disney will screw up characters like punisher and drop captian marvel(nooooooooo) but i will say this at least dc is still goin
Joe Moore:
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well that 2012 thing looks to be possible disney will screw up characters like punisher and drop captian marvel(nooooooooo) but i will say this at least dc is still goin
I doubt any major characters (like the Punisher) will get dropped. If Disney doesn't have a problem putting out movies like No Country For Old Men, then they can live with the Punisher.
Ian7:
FUCK. Is the correct term to be used here. First they take over google now marvel? Why doesn't disney just keep to there fantasy ass bullshit, and let us have a our cool stuff?
Greenskar:
I said it on TFW and I'll say it here:

Great, I can see it now. We're going to have "Iron Mouse", "Quacktain America" and "A Goofy Wolvie" to look forward to.
Snowflakian:
This could indeed bode well for disney, I wonder what the future projects may reflect this.

Kingdom Hearts Marvel world or more could be interesting too. I'd love to see X-23 in KH. xD Look out Kari, here comes Sora's true heart throb.

And how cool would it be to have donald vs howard the duck. But short of a few things like that, I hope not much is altered. In the long run though, if Hasbro, Marvel, and disney can work together this could lead to some awesomeness like Rom in Kim Possible, etc.

We already have animal marvel, so that's no biggie, and no different than the classic Batman daffy, super bugs, wonder piglet, and tasmanian devil flash. SpiderHam and Gizmo Duck FTW! Darkwing Duck teamed with captain ameriduck. and more!
MegaPrime33:
I don't see Disney interfering with the line at all. This could just be a business decision to buy out another company. We could get new attractions at the parks, which would be great, and mean tons of more merchandise to sell, but as far as movies go, they'll probably just let them do their own thing.
BeachHeadcurses:
I have to say that the Toyark responses to this have been much more rational than over at Hisstank. People are predicting the end of comic books over there. I think that this will be mostly good for Marvel. It will probably just mean a lot more merchandising.
Optimus Scourge:
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I have to say that the Toyark responses to this have been much more rational than over at Hisstank. People are predicting the end of comic books over there. I think that this will be mostly good for Marvel. It will probably just mean a lot more merchandising.
I think you're right. The merchandising will be endless
Snowflakian:
Hey if this means we finally get a decent Gizmo Duck action figure, I'm all for the merchandising. xD
trebleshot:
I'm not that worried. Even if Hasbro loses the rights to Mattel in 2017, we've still got another 7 years of Hasbro stuff to look forward to (MU has just started!).

Although, if Mattel DOES get it, then it will be the first time in a long time that one toy company held the rights to both Marvel and DC at the same time. Can you say Amalgam?

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Mickey Mouse VS. Wolverine!

FTW!
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I said it on TFW and I'll say it here:

Great, I can see it now. We're going to have "Iron Mouse", "Quacktain America" and "A Goofy Wolvie" to look forward to.
Hey, I think Pete would make a really good Sabretooth. These ideas could even have their own thread...
scarecrow:
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I have to say that the Toyark responses to this have been much more rational than over at Hisstank. People are predicting the end of comic books over there. I think that this will be mostly good for Marvel. It will probably just mean a lot more merchandising.
Ugh, I don't even want to read what's going on over there.

This is coming from the same community who's wonderful members made the ludicrous claim that ROC's Paris Pursuit scene was "the worst scene in movie history". Yeesh.

I agree. Merchandising will skyrocket, and I can't complain about getting more toys.
Johnnyakiba:
If this is the case with Hasbro's 2012 contract then that means that they need to start pumping out some fan favorite characters in the Marvel Universe line before it's over.

We still have 3 1/2 years of figures but....do you think they will have enough of the odd-ball characters?

I only hope so -_-.....
decepticon_mark:
[quote=trebleshot;29144]I'm not that worried. Even if Hasbro loses the rights to Mattel in 2017, we've still got another 7 years of Hasbro stuff to look forward to (MU has just started!).

Let's just hope Hasbro doesn't give up on the Marvel toy line prematurely and start cutting corners on this great line.
scarecrow:
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If this is the case with Hasbro's 2012 contract then that means that they need to start pumping out some fan favorite characters in the Marvel Universe line before it's over.

We still have 3 1/2 years of figures but....do you think they will have enough of the odd-ball characters?

I only hope so -_-.....
As long as I get my Ultron!!!
Snowflakian:
Okay, Hasbro, you have till 2017 to get every major team out in force. Box set it if you have to. But pump them out for massive revenue and figure coverage before it's too late!

Mattel with marvel? Blah though I will be all for amalgam figures, maybe Disney can broker a deal for them? DCIH maynot do them justice. At least we have a good 7-8 years before this, but still. Disney would do well to have hasbro experiment with some lines in good faith, like gizmo duck, darkwing duck, and stitch. If they part from hasbro for mattel, Disney loses the potential of one awesome character from this cooperation. The rebirth of the original space knight, ROM.

Disney I hope may be kinder to hasbro in good faith because of their dreamworks deals as well. But who knows how this will play out. So far it just seems Hasbro's network is nixed from marvel toons, but that was mildly expected anyway in this early stage of it.
But on the flipside, disney could help hasbro out with such things they don't air anymore like tailspin, rescue rangers, darkwing duck and ducktales. MUD stitch? MUD Kim Possible? MUD Gizmo Duck? MUD Darkwing duck? I'd buy em. Hasbro and Disney could reach some kind of agreement I'm sure to bring these back to every kids eye.

If not, well Hasbro, we better get at least a Howard the duck so we know what to send disney to not mess with what's perfect. xD

But the also potential future of this... 3 words.
Marvel Divas Barbies.
Runamuck:
Regarding the update, this is exactly what crossed my mind after I made my post. "What the heck happens to Hasbro and Marvel?" I really don't see Hasbro ever touching Marvel again after their deal is up.
Alexbel:
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Mickey Mouse VS. Wolverine!

FTW!
Lol

I loved going on the spiderman ride at universal im going down in October i hope i get the chance to ride again i loved that thing.
megatronkicksas:
What the fuck?! Hasbro better keep this licensee!!! The only thing that would make this deal good is if Disney buys Darien Lake(what used to be 6 flags) and turns them into Marvel based theme parks like how they used to be DC based theme parks. Or we get a butt load of GOOD Marvel cartoons.
coyote31770:
disney just had some success when they bought out seban for the old marvel shows, this success increased when they showed episodes of x-men evolution, and spectular spiderman. Disney figured out that people like marvel and want to cash in on it. Here is to hoping they make a whole marvel channel, one that plays old episodes of spiderman, the fantastic four, and the original increadible Hulk.
SirSapphire:
Why has no one brought up the most awesome possiblility of Deadpool running around Magic Kingdom? This is NOT a bad thing!
Greenskar:
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Why has no one brought up the most awesome possiblility of Deadpool running around Magic Kingdom? This is NOT a bad thing!
Only if he's singing "zippidy do dah, zippidy day!" and then goes to 100 Acre Woods and dresses up a certain someone in his costume and calls him "Deadpooh".
Snowflakian:
Speaking of DP, wonder how long till he offs someone named mickey, and adopts a dog named pluto... With obligatory deadpool vision hallucination.

Does this mean the secret invasion scene with him could take place at disney world?
ludovicotek:
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Only if he's singing "zippidy do dah, zippidy day!" and then goes to 100 Acre Woods and dresses up a certain someone in his costume and calls him "Deadpooh".
This was the actual reasoning behind the buyout. I can already see it in my head and I'm loving it!
FlaBat:
Marvel needed the money. This Avengers concept they have of doing separate films Spider-man, Iron Man, Thor and such and then making an Avengers film with the same actors is all a bit too much. The Hulk has bombed twice, Punisher has bombed twice and Fantastic Four has bombed twice. So I think Disney will leave Marvel alone, but I also think they will put more control over what gets green lighted and I think Thor might be cut. Maybe they salvage The Avengers but all of the other movies leading up to that might get cut.

Universal Studios had to have a license for the Marvel attractions they have at Islands Of Adventure, so whenever that runs out there might be a change of some kind. Disney just wants to make more money and they hope Marvel can deliver.
ludovicotek:
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Marvel needed the money. ...The Hulk has bombed twice, Punisher has bombed twice and Fantastic Four has bombed twice.
I wouldn't say the Hulk bombed twice. Fantastic Four either. All of their movies did respectable numbers, but by no means were considered blockbusters. I would say they under-performed from what was expected. I'll give you Punisher, though.
FlaBat:
Here are the Top 500 Films. I sorted it out as DC vs. Marvel

Marvel has more films out there and rule the Top 100, 6 to 4 over DC. Marvel has Spider-man, Iron Man and X-Men as the ones they depend upon to make the money. DC depends almost soley on Batman.

Neither of The Punisher films made the list, they did not even beat Batman and Robin.

2 The Dark Knight (Warner Bros.) 7/18/2008 $533,345,358
8 Spider-Man (Sony) 5/3/2002 $403,706,375
12 Spider-Man 2 (Sony) 6/30/2004 $373,524,485
17 Spider-Man 3 (Sony) 5/4/2007 $336,530,303
22 Iron Man (Paramount) 5/2/2008 $318,412,101
50 Batman (Warner Bros.) 6/23/1989 $252,101,924
62 X-Men: The Last Stand (Fox) 5/26/2006 $234,362,462
81 X2: X-Men United (Fox) 5/2/2003 $214,949,694
89 Batman Begins (Warner Bros.) 6/15/2005 $205,343,774
94 Superman Returns (Warner Bros.) 6/28/2006 $200,081,192
112 Batman Forever (Warner Bros.) 6/16/1995 $184,134,591
125 X-Men Origins: Wolverine (Fox) 5/1/2009 $179,863,544
157 Batman Returns (Warner Bros.) 6/19/1992 $162,831,698
166 X-Men (Fox) 7/14/2000 $157,299,718
173 Fantastic Four (Fox) 7/8/2005 $154,696,080
235 The Incredible Hulk (Universal) 6/13/2008 $134,806,913
238 Superman (Warner Bros.) 12/15/1978 $134,218,018
245 Hulk (Universal) 6/20/2003 $132,175,874
249 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fox) 6/15/2007 $131,921,738
326 Ghost Rider (Sony) 2/16/2007 $115,802,596
366 Superman II (Warner Bros.) 6/19/1981 $108,185,706
369 Watchmen (Warner Bros.) 3/6/2009 $107,509,799
370 Batman & Robin (Warner Bros.) 6/20/1997 $107,325,195
398 Daredevil (Fox) 2/14/2003 $102,543,518

Domestic Gross NOT total Worldwide
Runamuck:
Wow. I had no idea the first Punisher didn't do that well. I thought that movie was awesome. I loved Thomas Jane as Punisher and thought the action was great. Oh, well...
FlaBat:
THE PUNISHER Domestic Total Gross: $33,810,189 Worldwide: $54,700,105

PUNISHER: WAR ZONE Domestic Total Gross: $8,050,977 Worldwide: $10,089,373
Greenskar:
Never been a fan of the Punisher. I watched his movies for the action and kill scenes, but I don't care for the character himself. He's not compelling to me.

His movies doing bad are the result in little interest in him. Has he ever been a top tier character just out of curiosity? I'm not saying he doesn't have fans, I'm just saying I've never seen the mass appeal of the character. He appears to have more of a cult following than anything else.

Deadpool used to have a similar cult following, but his personality is what's given him the potential to explode in popularity. Punisher, not likely.

Punisher is a bomb in the Movie category for Marvel that will NOT repeat, further. It wasn't the rated R aspect of it so much as the lack of interest for a nutcase with a vengeance story.

And that's what sucks. Marvel sees the results of Punisher movies as proof that they don't have an audience for Rated R movies. Bullshit! You throw out a Rated R Wolverine or Deadpool movie done appropriately and then lets see what happens.
FlaBat:
Sorted by Comic Book Adaptation

1 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 7/18/08
2 Spider-Man Sony $403,706,375 3,876 $114,844,116 3,615 5/3/02
3 Spider-Man 2 Sony $373,585,825 4,166 $88,156,227 4,152 6/30/04
4 Spider-Man 3 Sony $336,530,303 4,324 $151,116,516 4,252 5/4/07
5 Iron Man Par. $318,412,101 4,154 $98,618,668 4,105 5/2/08
6 Batman WB $251,188,924 2,201 $40,489,746 2,194 6/23/89
7 Men in Black Sony $250,690,539 3,180 $51,068,455 3,020 7/2/97
8 X-Men: The Last Stand Fox $234,362,462 3,714 $102,750,665 3,690 5/26/06
9 X2: X-Men United Fox $214,949,694 3,749 $85,558,731 3,741 5/2/03
10 300 WB $210,614,939 3,280 $70,885,301 3,103 3/9/07
11 Batman Begins WB $205,343,774 3,858 $48,745,440 3,858 6/15/05
12 Superman Returns WB $200,081,192 4,065 $52,535,096 4,065 6/28/06
13 Men in Black II Sony $190,418,803 3,641 $52,148,751 3,557 7/3/02
14 Batman Forever WB $184,031,112 2,893 $52,784,433 2,842 6/16/95
15 X-Men Origins: Wolverine Fox $179,864,899 4,102 $85,058,003 4,099 5/1/09
16 Batman Returns WB $162,831,698 2,644 $45,687,711 2,644 6/19/92
17 X-Men Fox $157,299,717 3,112 $54,471,475 3,025 7/14/00
18 Fantastic Four Fox $154,696,080 3,619 $56,061,504 3,602 7/8/05
19 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles NL $135,265,915 2,377 $25,398,367 2,006 3/30/90
20 The Incredible Hulk Uni. $134,806,913 3,508 $55,414,050 3,505 6/13/08
21 Wanted Uni. $134,508,551 3,185 $50,927,085 3,175 6/27/08
22 Superman WB $134,218,018 817 $7,465,343 508 12/15/78
23 Hulk Uni. $132,177,234 3,674 $62,128,420 3,660 6/20/03
24 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer Fox $131,921,738 3,963 $58,051,684 3,959 6/15/07
25 The Mask NL $119,938,730 2,516 $23,117,068 2,360 7/29/94
26 Ghost Rider Sony $115,802,596 3,620 $45,388,836 3,619 2/16/07
27 Superman II WB $108,185,706 1,878 $14,100,523 1,397 6/19/81
28 Watchmen WB $107,509,799 3,611 $55,214,334 3,611 3/6/09
29 Batman and Robin WB $107,325,195 2,942 $42,872,605 2,934 6/20/97
30 Road to Perdition DW $104,454,762 2,332 $22,079,481 1,797 7/12/02
31 Dick Tracy BV $103,738,726 2,332 $22,543,911 2,332 6/15/90
32 Daredevil Fox $102,543,518 3,474 $40,310,419 3,471 2/14/03
33 Casper Uni. $100,328,194 2,757 $16,840,385 2,714 5/26/95
34 Blade II NL $82,348,319 2,707 $32,528,016 2,707 3/22/02
35 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II NL $78,656,813 2,868 $20,030,473 2,868 3/22/91
36 Hellboy II: The Golden Army Uni. $75,986,503 3,212 $34,539,115 3,204 7/11/08
37 Constantine WB $75,976,178 3,006 $29,769,098 3,006 2/18/05
38 Sin City Dim. $74,103,820 3,230 $29,120,273 3,230 4/1/05
39 V for Vendetta WB $70,511,035 3,365 $25,642,340 3,365 3/17/06
40 Blade NL $70,087,718 2,389 $17,073,856 2,322 8/21/98
41 The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Fox $66,465,204 3,002 $23,075,892 3,002 7/11/03
42 Superman III WB $59,950,623 1,763 $13,352,357 1,759 6/17/83
43 Hellboy SonR $59,623,958 3,043 $23,172,440 3,028 4/2/04
44 Annie Col. $57,059,003 1,102 $510,632 14 5/21/82
45 Spawn NL $54,870,175 2,604 $19,738,749 2,536 8/1/97
46 TMNT WB $54,149,098 3,120 $24,255,205 3,110 3/23/07
47 Blade: Trinity NL $52,411,906 2,912 $16,061,271 2,912 12/8/04
48 Dennis the Menace WB $51,270,765 2,085 $9,331,139 2,085 6/25/93
49 The Crow Mira. $50,693,129 2,119 $11,774,332 1,573 5/13/94
50 Popeye Par. $49,823,037 901 $6,310,520 901 12/12/80
51 The Rocketeer BV $46,704,056 1,903 $9,600,754 1,616 6/21/91
52 Timecop Uni. $44,853,581 2,274 $12,064,625 2,228 9/16/94
53 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III NL $42,273,609 2,087 $12,419,597 2,087 3/19/93
54 Catwoman WB $40,202,379 3,117 $16,728,411 3,117 7/23/04
55 30 Days of Night Sony $39,568,996 2,859 $15,951,902 2,855 10/19/07
56 Richie Rich WB $38,087,756 1,761 $5,830,302 1,748 12/21/94
57 Judge Dredd BV $34,693,481 2,204 $12,291,536 2,204 6/30/95
58 The Punisher Lions $33,810,189 2,649 $13,834,527 2,649 4/16/04
59 The Shadow Uni. $32,063,435 1,769 $11,713,845 1,677 7/1/94
60 From Hell Fox $31,602,566 2,334 $11,014,818 2,305 10/19/01
61 A History of Violence NL $31,504,633 1,348 $515,992 14 9/23/05
62 Mystery Men Uni. $29,762,011 2,142 $10,017,865 2,136 8/6/99
63 Flash Gordon Uni. $27,107,960 - $3,934,030 823 12/5/80
64 Elektra Fox $24,409,722 3,204 $12,804,793 3,204 1/14/05
65 Bulletproof Monk MGM $23,358,708 2,955 $8,653,542 2,955 4/16/03
66 Buck Rogers in the 25th Century Uni. $21,671,241 934 n/a 934 3/30/79
67 The Spirit LGF $19,806,188 2,509 $6,463,278 2,509 12/25/08
68 The Crow: City of Angels Mira. $17,917,287 2,423 $9,785,111 2,423 8/30/96
69 The Phantom Par. $17,323,326 2,163 $5,072,346 2,159 6/7/96
70 Howard the Duck Uni. $16,295,774 1,563 $5,070,136 1,554 8/1/86
71 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace WB $15,681,020 1,511 $5,683,122 1,511 7/24/87
72 Supergirl TriS $14,296,438 1,620 $5,738,249 1,608 11/21/84
73 Josie and the Pussycats Uni. $14,271,015 2,558 $4,562,455 2,556 4/11/01
74 Virus Uni. $14,036,005 2,018 $6,013,640 2,018 1/15/99
75 Punisher: War Zone LGF $8,050,977 2,508 $4,271,451 2,508 12/5/08
76 Ghost World MGM $6,217,849 128 $98,791 5 7/20/01
77 American Splendor FL $6,010,990 272 $159,705 6 8/15/03
78 Sheena Col. $5,778,353 1,496 $2,950,114 1,496 8/17/84
79 Batman: Mask of the Phantasm WB $5,617,391 1,506 $1,189,975 1,506 12/25/93
80 Tank Girl MGM $4,064,495 1,363 $2,018,183 1,341 3/31/95
81 Barb Wire Gram. $3,793,614 1,312 $1,844,426 1,312 5/3/96
82 Steel WB $1,710,972 1,260 $870,068 1,260 8/15/97
83 Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland Hemd $1,368,000 579 $407,695 579 8/21/92
84 Brenda Starr Triu $67,878 48 $30,035 48 4/17/92
BeachHeadcurses:
I actually thought that Punisher: War Zone was an awesome movie! I went in fully expecting it to be awful. There was a ridiculous violence and gore, but that's what a Punisher comic book delivers.
Snowflakian:
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Sorted by Comic Book Adaptation

1 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 7/18/08
2 Spider-Man Sony $403,706,375 3,876 $114,844,116 3,615 5/3/02
3 Spider-Man 2 Sony $373,585,825 4,166 $88,156,227 4,152 6/30/04
4 Spider-Man 3 Sony $336,530,303 4,324 $151,116,516 4,252 5/4/07
5 Iron Man Par. $318,412,101 4,154 $98,618,668 4,105 5/2/08
6 Batman WB $251,188,924 2,201 $40,489,746 2,194 6/23/89
7 Men in Black Sony $250,690,539 3,180 $51,068,455 3,020 7/2/97
8 X-Men: The Last Stand Fox $234,362,462 3,714 $102,750,665 3,690 5/26/06
9 X2: X-Men United Fox $214,949,694 3,749 $85,558,731 3,741 5/2/03
10 300 WB $210,614,939 3,280 $70,885,301 3,103 3/9/07
Of that top 10 of comic grosses. Marvel is slots 2,3,4,5,7,8,9.
Only 1 (heath ledgers death induced this, it won't be repeated), 6 and 10 are DC.

Marvel is a very lucrative property, and no, not even thor will be effected by this. The plan for avengers is already in the contracts as well since ironman and hulk were made. So the monetary issues behind that are already corrected too. Just any new cast would be the question if they would sign that contract too. Thor's actor has.

The only sad thing here honestly is instead of Marvel growing into becoming one of the new age media giants, they are now part of the big 6 who own 90% of hollywood as is. Probably more like 91% of hollywood now. Short of that though, nothing will change cept a few channels that shows are on. And potentially a wider array of media down the line as well.

This could potentially lead to more live action spin offs, like an academy X live show to go alongside wizards of waverly place or aaron stone. Among other things like that, but I don't see disney messing with the marvel juggernaut as is. The hype ball on avengers is already rolling. To interrupt that now would just be shooting themselves in the foot.

Now the problem with those grosses that they don't factor in. Is dvd sales. DVD sales make up a good chunk of disney's money too when you look at their vault and so forth. And the recent disney hulu deals could mean more marvel properties on there as well.

The other question to ask, what does this mean for Marvel Toys (formerly toy biz) who makes curious george merchandise. What's their future now since they are owned by disney? In one fell swoop, Disney has added themselves a toy company, film company, animation, and even comics and magazines. Besides the 5000+ characters marvel owns that have proven as iconic as mickey mouse. (And almost as old! they just did have their 70th anniversary.)

And what will this mean for the malibu comics properties marvel has? Now they have an even bigger spectrum to tap as well. This can open a lot of doors, the only thing it prevents is marvel being free to shop around networks for its shows, and Marvel itself growing into a larger entity. Now all marvel success instead of making marvel bigger, will make disney bigger. But in that same notion disney can in turn make marvel bigger just because they have the bank roll.

Now the only potential newage media giant is Hasbro. Mattel still hasn't changed their company type. Hasbro on the other hand has changed their image rights, and have a large library to tap from transformers to gi joe, and other 80s toons, to even the milton bradley game lineup. Disney has effectively negated hasbro from absorbing marvel into the fold to bolster that library too, but I fear that may not be the end the of their plans. I wouldn't put it past them to attempt to absorb hasbro at one point down the road as well. It's not like the extra channel would hurt them, most networks have 10 as is, disney only has 4 so far. What's a 5th one to them if it means an outlet for all their media that's not on air like ducktales, and darkwing and other classics? So that worries me a shade at the rate disney is going. They have so much media but not enough channels to air it all. So that actually sounds like a reasonably smart move, and helps cement some of they wayward marvel rights too. =/ They've already got several Mickey Formers to port over too.

This makes me wonder about the future of hasbro, if disney will play nice, or absorb them too. This could lead to a bright future for hasbro though if disney decides to play nice. Disney formers coming stateside, hasbro keeping the marvel toy license, and more.
trebleshot:
Nice post, dude!

Although you're giving me visions of Rollerball with the mention of the big 6 media corps., epecially in this economy.
Snowflakian:
Well and also just in case anyone's a Spectacular Spidey fan, Disney may have the full rights now, but the team who worked on it is still willing to keep doing it.

They're just waiting for the Disney greenlight still for a season 3.
Search Ask Greg : Gargoyles : A Station Eight Fan Web Site

To condense that down for those who don't want to click it. It's Greg Weisman's website for gargoyles and questions to him etc. He talks about how the deal effects them, but also lets us know this won't mean anything till potentially December or January.
So there's still hope for spectacular spiderman to return for a season 3. =D His blog also gives us an inside look at how long in the making the disney buyout has been apparently. Including how it originally spawned the gargoyles franchise. Details I wasn't aware of either.

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Nice post, dude!

Although you're giving me visions of Rollerball with the mention of the big 6 media corps., epecially in this economy.
Now you got me thinking about that too. xD Thanks. lol
BlazeEagle:
Since I assume Disney wants to keep Marvel a profitable property, I think it’ll be fine. Also, IF Disney would screw up the Marvel characters & stories, That would certainly greatly lower the money they’ll bring in from owning Marvel.

This will be interesting to watch as it develops, that’s for sure!
BlazeEagle:
I'd love a highly articulated Darkwing Duck!
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