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04-27-2020, 10:39 AM | #1 |
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I'm asking this is just a legit question... Would you be Willing to Pay a little bit more to have our Collectors Items Made in America, or on the Continent of North America? We know almost 90% of these items are Made in China right now.
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04-27-2020, 12:09 PM | #2 |
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Honestly no. The only reason its more expensive to make stuff here is all unnecessary environmental laws and wage demands from unions and since that cuts into corporate bottom lines ( heaven forbid the bean counters and useless overpaid execs who think we need a cap and ironman in every gotdamned wave ) the toy industry will likely never comeback to us. If execs didn't demand so much and the whacko environmental activists would back off and labor unions not demand crazy concessions then maybe it wouldn’t be so bad but thats extremely unlikely. But thats just my take.
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04-27-2020, 02:21 PM | #3 |
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By Mike Moceri, founder and CEO, MakerOS
Earlier this month during a Saturday press conference, Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York State said this: “China is, remarkably, the repository for all of these orders – ventilators, PPE – it all comes back to China, which in the long term, we have to figure out why we wound up in this situation, where we don’t have the manufacturing capacity in this country. I understand supply chain issues, I understand the cost of manufacturing, but there’s a public health reason why we learned the hard way why we need the capacity in this country to do this.” Many experts echo the governor’s point. The COVID-19 global pandemic is exposing how incredibly fragile the modern global supply chain is. Many companies experienced some kind of supply chain disruption due to the coronavirus, and some did not have a plan to deal with the disruption. It’s becoming abundantly clear that heavy dependence on a single source for materials and parts is no longer sustainable, particularly if that source is overseas. The coronavirus may very well have jump-started the fourth industrial revolution, where industry becomes more reliant on modern societal components including 3D printing . . . |
05-18-2020, 02:59 AM | #4 |
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If a product is a "USA" company I would say, yes. Like buying a Bandai Toy and Its made in China. I know you can buy it cheaper, since its made in China. My problem comes from being a Japanese toy company. I like the "made in Japan" label on the toy(marking,box,etc). Some of the toy lines for Bandai are still made in Japan. I feel the same way about USA. If it is a America Toy Company it should be made in USA. So yeah, I would pay more. Well, a little more.=^)
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05-18-2020, 04:43 AM | #5 |
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Hasbro is already moving a lot out of China. Some of my newer Star Wars items are now saying Vietnam. Politics aside, putting all your eggs in one basket is stupid. Lego makes a lot in Mexico. As machines do more and more in the future, I could see companies bringing it back to North America. The need for less employees and the reliance on machines will keep costs down. One big issue is, the Chinese toy factories know their stuff. They have fine tuned toy making over 40 years and they are quite good at it. The vast majority of people in China are good,hard-working and prideful people. Again, this pandemic has exposed the entire world to what happens when all your eggs are in one basket. This problem didn’t happen over night, it won’t be solved over night.
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05-18-2020, 09:47 AM | #6 |
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Pay more for shoddy American product made by the same greasy fatsos that clog up the aisles of Walmart with their electric scooters? No thanks pal!
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05-18-2020, 05:02 PM | #7 |
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Ironically enough Action Figures are Multi-National. Where I work sends the Plastic we use to wrap Pallets of Groceries to Canada, In Canada it's Refined and sent to China and Vietnam where it's turned into other stuff. The Problem has long been the US's Strong Anti-Pollution Stance (Honestly I don't actually get the Stance. It doesn't matter who Pollutes it, It's still Pollution). I noticed the Made in Vietnam logo from Mattel as well (both the Tarbosaurus and Sarcosuchus were made Nam).
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05-18-2020, 05:29 PM | #8 |
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The “greasy fatsos” are on disability. A lot of the toy collecting ones whine about the price of toys rising faster than their disability’s cost of living payment.
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06-08-2020, 01:47 AM | #10 |
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Collecting here is already more expensive than North America, if it gets much higher I will stop collecting. I imagine a lot of others outside of NA would feel the same, therefore the price for you guys wouldn't just increase a little bit - they would increase a lot because things wouldn't be produced in such large numbers. I agree though that having almost everything manufactured in one place isn't a great idea because it gives that country a lot of power.
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06-08-2020, 04:06 AM | #11 |
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As has been alluded to here, we wouldn't just be paying more for the costs of workers wages, but for Corporate greed and environmental restrictions. And as Primacron says above - we already pay much much more in Europe than the US - minimum 50% more, and with no sales to ever get decent deals (those images we see of Walmart and Target with things discounted so low as to be basically free...) If they hiked the price anymore they might as well make toys out of gold and we could use them as currency.
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Uh no... this is The United States of America... they’d be made by low skill immigrants and single mothers with deadbeat baby daddies.
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Ironically enough Action Figures are Multi-National. Where I work sends the Plastic we use to wrap Pallets of Groceries to Canada, In Canada it's Refined and sent to China and Vietnam where it's turned into other stuff.
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06-08-2020, 06:37 AM | #12 |
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And that's enough of that.
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