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05-14-2014, 08:30 PM | #1 |
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Inevitably, every single line of discussion turns into a Hasbro sucks complainatorium. So here's your chance, If Hasbro came to you tomorrow and wanted you to create and direct a MU, or ML sub-line, what would it be? who would be in your line? would there be a theme? would you include "gimmicks" like firing weapons? would you stick to single packs, or go for team packs, playsets, and vehicles? would you stick to one character's universe like spidey, or try to include everyone? here's your shot to run the show, your in charge, what would you like your toy line to look like sir?
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05-14-2014, 08:54 PM | #2 |
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Ok, here's mine: true collector focus, silver age only, first appearances of most of our favorite characters, every wave would have six unique figures three heroes, three villains two each to a 12 figure case, first wave: Cyclopes, Magneto, Thor, porcupine, Spider man, doc. Oc. all very "silver age" stylistic. I would also release comic packs of first appearances again one hero one villain, or in some cases, like Hulk you would get a first appearance Hulk/ Bruce Banner pack with Hulk#1 in the background.
and lastly, I would bring back the team packs, four figure sets, each with unique packaging, where instead of a generic nebula background, you would get a cardboard insert that would work as a stand alone diorama, for example, The FF would come with a lab, The X-men (the four pack would be Beast Marvel Girl, Iceman, and Angel because Cyclopes would be single carded in wave one) would come with the danger room. the whole line would have figure stands, and individual card art! I would also pack every figure with a "voter card" to select a voters choice wave once a year, no suggestions just a pure write in campaign. No gimmicks, just modern MU articulation. I think that's about it for my dream MU line. oh le me add every wave would have a regular sized BAF specifically for collectors, wave 1: young Stan Lee, Wave 2: Jack Kirby, Wave 3: Furbish Man. Last edited by kylactus; 05-14-2014 at 09:03 PM.. |
05-14-2014, 09:03 PM | #3 |
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I'd get MU and ML lines going simultaneously. 4 to 6 waves a year at six figures per wave, three of those figures would end up being repacks/recolors in each wave but I'd retire any figures of Hulk, Wolverine, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and Spider-man so they would NOT be among the repacks (unless those figures received MAJOR outfit changes in the comics, then I'd reconsider doing that one). Much as I'd like to see more I'd say that the females per wave of each line would be limited to two per wave. I'd like to work it out so that each wave had two villains as well but I could see some just having one.
Whatever figures on each line happened to be in a wave though, there'd be no short packs. Each figure gets 2 per case pack of 12. No exceptions. Absolutely no in-figure gimmicks. Cut out the variants. Keep the build a figure but do it for both lines. And not sure on all the other figures but finally get Polaris and Enchantress the damn ML figures they deserve. (Want Polaris in MU too but it's getting ridiculous on both of these in ML) Team packs - I'd continue the MU team packs at 2 sets of 3 per year - first year would definitely include New Mutants, Thunderbolts, Thunderbolts Part 2, Alpha Flight, Alpha Flight Part 2 and....I'd have to think on the sixth one, maybe the Brother Hood Of Evil Mutants? Team packs would have two new figures and one repack most likely and could include either 1 or 2 females. No team packs for ML. Additionally I'd still have the Avengers Assembled line for more kid-centric collecting, and with that I'd also do 4-6 waves per year but most likely only 2 brand new figures per wave. I'd allow the "big six" mentioned above to still be produced in that line, but within reason though - maybe just one of each per year. Also for movies I'd still keep those lines going, so in addition to being in Avengers Assembled the big six could still show up in other ways. But I wouldn't make it so that Spider-Man had 15 figures and there were two other characters total (That maybe an exaggeration but it seemed even worse with Iron Man and not quite as bad with Thor). I'd even it up a little more....maybe at most half and half? Forgot to add that through all the lines (excepting the MU team packs of course) there would not be a "theme" per wave. I think that can be a good thing but it also has its negative points, like the GotG Marvel Infinites wave is likely going to show. Last edited by Captain Nash; 05-14-2014 at 09:12 PM.. |
05-14-2014, 11:58 PM | #4 |
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Well if I were in charge, I would do every type of release method (single, comic pack, team pack, store exclusive multipacks, masterworks, the whole shabang), maybe release vehicles periodically as needed. As for characters, first whole wave: villains. No theme, shoot for the stars attitude, regularly check forums like these to see what's wanted and what's not. For the younguns I'd launch a line that only partly lowers detail and pose, but includes variety of characters and gimmicks to still appeal to all consumers. More minority and obscure characters, if you're deftly worried about your kids being exposed to heroes who are homosexual or foreign, then don't buy my hypothetical toyline, I wouldn't want your money. More mail-away offers too, nothing ridiculously rare or sought after, but fun and gimmicky variants. Release an accessories and effects pack with different weapons, blast effects, fire effects, magic stuff, flight stands, etc. for diorama set-ups or just to bring extra cool factor. I think that's all I care to type here, so I'll end my ramble.
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05-15-2014, 12:01 AM | #5 |
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I would make every wave 2xWolverine 2xIron Man 2xCaptain America 2xSpiderman and throw in a Superman just to confuse them!!!!
Just kidding.... Nice topic here. It is easy to complain about Hasbro, but if given the opportunity everyone would find it very hard. Even if it was a dream line-up, people would complain. It is stereotypical COMIC BOOK GUY from The Simpsons.... worst wave ever, no matter who was in it. That said.... I would make a list on the back of the card like old school toys did. Say 100 for arguments sake. Then release 6 characters every other month (x2 per case) and stick to formula until complete. I hate all the secret information about who and when and why a wave would be released.
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05-15-2014, 06:25 AM | #6 |
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My first priority would, of course, be an Iceman box set. It would feature Snowy Iceman, smooth Iceman, spikey Iceman, IceHulk, and powered down Bobby. Then I would make Fantomex and a few other unmade guys then stuff Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Wolverine, and Spider-Man into like 5 five waves but all with this craziest unmade costumes. Then I'd just burn it all to the ground.
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05-15-2014, 07:24 AM | #7 |
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Ok... interesting ideas all around... some I can see you being touted as Hasbro Jr. others Hasbro lite...I agree there is no easy answer but if I had a shot perhaps it would be....
1. Collecters wave case pack 8 (4 figures X 2) 2. 3.75 wave case pack 12 (6 figures X 2) 3. lil kids wave case pack 10 (5 figures X 2) all 3 lines published simultaneously with the same set of characters thereby rendering chase figures irrelevant BAFs or CNC on the collector line with completeness based on the figures released introduce mini baf on the 3.75 line (buy all 6 BAF) in each wave at least 2 female figures 1 hero 1 villain Using the old OHOTMUDE, I would go through the historical figures listed and pick the wave listings accordingly to keep interest in the line every other wave would have a key member of some group keeping the waves in order to complete your team. (wave 1 would have an xman-avenger and/or thunderbolt) for instance followed by wave 2 having another member of the team BAFs would be super big bads like galactus, apocolypse, sentinels, Thing ect... given the universe that is available at least 2 figues in each wave would also be some lesser known figues like(batroc, spot, moleman, pastepotpete, ect) keeping it somewhat even across the lines would give something for everyone without crating artificial demand for any 1 figure. Of course the argument would be who is in what wave so wave 1 and 2 would be internally decided so as to when wave 1 is released with an online entry code for who you would like to see in wave 5 wave 2 would refer to wave 6 and so on.. Price point would end up being detailed by the overall expected articulation but collector figures would be in the 19.99 range 3.75 at 9.99 and kids 6.99 for at least the first 4 waves.. |
05-15-2014, 10:24 AM | #8 |
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Firstly, I would set up an online poll with every site that caters to Marvel fans/ buyers. Then round up a dozen or so 'super fans' and I mean those who have followed the brands since inception to be an unbiased group to allocate figures into waves. A group to give opinions as to what figs should be in how many waves per year. Let's say that number was 4(it could be 5 or 6 or even 3). So 4 waves in cases of 8 figures. A 5th wave of 2-packs for army builders, or as mentioned arch enemies pack or whatever would be decided each year. And one box set, with anywhere between 3 and 7 figures included. Maybe switch up the BAF occasionally for a 6 piece BAD (build-a-diorama)? Like MS is doing with the danger room! Remember, this is if lol.
Some waves of course would need to be movie themed I suppose, but in the cases of Dr. Strange or Antman, maybe just singles in a mixed wave where you could just put 8 different figures in a case, etc. I agree with all of your suggestions of course, because all things are improvements. But lastly, if I worked for Marvel I would have a crew that read emails with critiques and suggestions daily, complete with responses and thank you's! If not that, then a quarterly announcement on some Marvel run website about upcoming waves, contests etc. I think something is needed to bridge the gap a bit...
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05-15-2014, 04:27 PM | #9 |
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one more idea I had: artist signature series box sets. Either three or four packs with characters as represented by either there designers or artists who revolutionized there look, like McFarlane with Spiderman.
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05-17-2014, 01:45 PM | #10 |
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Contest of the Champions 2-packs, Marvel Zombies, all the Masters of Evil and Brotherhood members yet to be made, army builder box sets, Ultimate versions of characters, and comic Warriors 3 3-pack.
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05-19-2014, 05:37 AM | #11 |
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Hire Vonner as my replacement and then promptly retire. Just being a fan of the brand in no way qualifies me to be a brand manager at a multi-billion-dollar company.
By the way, did I mention that I would make sure to give myself a hefty severance package that includes free retail samples of everything Hasbro produces for Marvel for as long as Hasbro retains the license?
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05-19-2014, 06:15 AM | #12 |
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I wouldn't mind this as a job ,
for the Marvel Legends although possibly add these ideas to the MU fans as well Fist off I'd re-enstate the comic book waves so the company will focus characters on the comics as well as movie figures when a marvel film comes out. Secondly i'd see how long it takes 1 single character to be produce as in time wise or a whole wave[why you'll see in point 3] Thirdly make a small and simple but strict forum where we have sub categories within them such as "Feedback" -obviously know what the fans think of the current figures. with an up vote button so if you like what that member said then we can see how many like the idea. "Figures You'll like to see thread" - See what fans want , although this will be like a thing saying we'll do it if we can thing. plus this will be the strictest thread also to be able to tell fans when the figures will be in stores. and obviously make those perfect figures for the fans No surprises or disappointments on things like SDCC packs "Fans Choice" Finger articulation , [i really do miss that] and toe articulation as well depending on the figure Bring Back the Two-pack's [what happened to those?] Reboot figures with update figures, as in if a character gets a certain costume we'll update it although this will be a re-use of the perfect mold so you'll select that character and ask for marvel now magneto costume , simple re-paints depending on the costume. this again will be voted if needed to be a re-mold i.e like a colossus as the juggernaut from fear it's self. No Walmart exclusive or any thing like Local comic book store or TRU exclusives only one which will be SDCC but not only in SDCC but around the world Comic-cons And sell Worldwide That's what I'll do Last edited by warmachine6; 05-19-2014 at 06:17 AM.. |
05-19-2014, 06:23 AM | #13 |
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I'd like to recreate what DC does for DC Collectibles and do something similar. I'd like to make a line of figures that are suited for collectors that can be bought through comic shops and specialty stores. It works for DC, and I certainly think it can work for marvel. The only marvel figures right now that are pushed in comic shops are marvel select, which are usually in low quantities in shops. The size of the packaging doesn't help either.
What kinds of Marvel figs would i suggest? I would say almost strictly comic series figs with characters that would not normally sell in large quantities at the big bog stores.
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05-19-2014, 12:07 PM | #14 |
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I just wish HASBRO TOY SHOP would sell internationally!!!!!
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05-28-2014, 04:25 AM | #15 |
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Yes ukmu. Me too wish the same. I am desperate to have them.
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07-21-2014, 07:32 AM | #16 |
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I'd put more money into the movie figures for a start - and release fully articulated Avengers and side characters from the past 9 MCU movies.
Also if I had the power to do what I wanted I'd release an X-Men: Days of Future Past 3.75 & 6 inch line because I need movie Magneto & Xaviers! |
07-21-2014, 08:16 AM | #17 |
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I'd create a line of just female characters so we can fill in the huge holes left by Hasbro's "hur dur female characters don't sell" garbage, including...
-Monica Rambeau (probably her Spectrum outfit) -Captain Marvel (Carol) -Ms. Marvel (Kamala) -Moonstone Ms. Marvel -80's Storm -Psylocke -Aurora (but in a two-pack with Northstar) -Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) -Enchantress -Mockingbird -Rogue but since that's unrealistic I'd just make sure they stop shortpacking female figures, ESPECIALLY ones packed with BAF pieces. I'd also make sure "Fan's Choice" figures are ACTUALLY PICKED BY THE FANS. |
07-21-2014, 01:35 PM | #18 |
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right.... I mean if i am paying for the shipping, what the hell is the hold up? Region 1 only for a company is, in my opinion, dumb. It is a big world Hasbro......
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07-21-2014, 06:25 PM | #19 |
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Quote:
-Monica Rambeau (probably her Spectrum outfit)
-Captain Marvel (Carol) -Ms. Marvel (Kamala) -Moonstone Ms. Marvel -80's Storm -Psylocke -Aurora (but in a two-pack with Northstar) -Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) -Enchantress -Mockingbird -Rogue Just up the number of women and make new characters. |
07-21-2014, 07:08 PM | #20 |
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I'm talking about 6" scale figures, though. Plus, Carol's new outfit really needs a toy, SOME toy, even a Marvel Select...
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07-22-2014, 12:47 PM | #21 |
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I'd make the sister lines be closer to the MU/AI dversity of characters and articulation. For instance the Cap line or wolverine line should not feature 16 versions of the title character and only provide 5 other characters. How many characters could we have got if the spiderman man line was a booster line to the MU?
I'd bring back the 2-pack figures. I would try to poll the fanbase to make them feel part of the process. |
07-22-2014, 02:30 PM | #22 |
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Quote:
I'm talking about 6" scale figures, though. Plus, Carol's new outfit really needs a toy, SOME toy, even a Marvel Select...
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07-22-2014, 09:00 PM | #23 |
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Marvel Universe 3.75 line continuation. I'll let the marketing people rebrand or repackage the line however they want, but the product style and scale remain the same.
My first priority would be to fix the glaring omissions. So there needs to be an Invisible Woman in the classic Kirby era light blue and black costume. There also needs to be a variant paint of her in the Byrne era dark blue and white. Next we need a Banshee and a green and gold repaint Phoenix to complete the "All New, All Different" era X-Men roster. A Shadowcat Excalibur-era costumed Kitty Pryde would be nice. Avengers we need are: blue-furred monkeyman Beast in George Perez style, Tigra, Monica Rambeau Captain Marvel, and a Vision re-issue. The rest of Alpha Flight: Northstar, Snowbird, Shaman, Sasquatch, Marrina, Vindicator, and perhaps Talisman. Rounding out the missing figures: an original costume Nova (Richard Rider), the Gargoyle from the Defenders, the Black Cat, Shang Chi, the Shroud, White Tiger, and El Aguila. At the same time as these oversights are corrected, there needs to be a greater emphasis on villains. Let's see Dr. Octopus, Diablo, The Frightful Four, Sandman, Vulture, The Owl, Matador, Mr. Fear, Killer Shrike, Kingpin, Chemistro, Blob, Pyro, Avalanche, Toad, Mesmero, Sauron, The Master, Don of the Dead, Hammerhead, Annihilus, Kulan Gath, Master Khan, Mr. Negative, Viper, High Evolutionary, Mad Thinker and his Awesome Android, the Marauders, Speed Demon, Boomerang, Beetle, Ghost, Blacklash, Living Laser, Madam Masque, Jack O'Lantern, Scarecrow, Morpheus, Graviton, Titania, Tombstone, Spot, the Blank, etc. They can keep putting obligatory Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, and Wolverine figures in the cases from time to time to satisfy the retailers and keep the popular characters in circulation, but the line needs to fill its holes and step up production on villains.
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07-22-2014, 10:43 PM | #24 |
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Personally I'd go with a MU wave or two consisting of the more supernatural characters. Morbius, a new Blade (modern and classic 90s variant), Dan Ketch Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze (with a robotic limbs variant), Man-Thing, Vengeance, Blackheart, Mephisto, Blackout, Lilith...basically the characters I loved growing up. A Midnight Sons team-pack would be cool.
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07-23-2014, 01:34 AM | #25 |
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Great lists Torpedo
well said Spade I would love some of those Snake Relena, your Carole will come....someday Lionheart.... funny Jedi- GOOD movie tie-ins, now there is a thought! If only they would do a DEDICATED marvel Cinematic Universe line of 3.75" and put in supporting cast, what a collection we could have.
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