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05-19-2013, 04:22 PM | #1 |
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Hello everyone!
Not really a custom but some of you might find this interesting. I recently got into 3D printing and I was wondering how far I could take the functionality of my models. This is my first attempt at a figure with proper “action figure” articulation. It worked out pretty well. It basically works like a snap together model kit. It has about 30 points of articulation. I had to do some sandpapering in order to make everything fit together but that is something one should expect when 3D printing. The figure holds firmly together and all the joints have a nice range of motion. The seam lines are a little bit big but I believe that has more to do with the resolution of my printer then the 3D file. The figure is about 7 inches tall. It has a couple of swapable hands and the weapons can be stored on the back of the figure. The figure is called Dan Generiko and he is a hero in an apocalyptic world where genetically enhanced humans wage war against humans who have given up their natural bodies for robotic ones. Dan protects the ordinary humans who are caught in the middle of the fighting of the two factions. - Hauke
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05-19-2013, 04:48 PM | #2 |
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Woah! This is awesome!!!
Id love to see what can be made in the 3.75" scale. Wicked job mate
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05-19-2013, 05:33 PM | #3 |
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In less then 10 years time 3D printing has the potential to crush the action figure industry as we know it today.
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05-19-2013, 06:56 PM | #4 |
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Thanks guys!
My printer is not precise enough for 3.75" scale. The joints would be too inaccurate to work. You would probably need an expensive high resolution printer for that. Up close even this large figure is still rough. 3D printing is great for prototyping and stuff like that but it will still take a long time before people can print something with it comming close to a factory manufactured figure when it comes to detail, painting and price.
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05-19-2013, 07:31 PM | #5 |
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I dream of the day when top quality 3d printers will only be a couple hundred dollars. So many things I would do with that but I think the big thing in customs will become who has the best files to print characters that people want. Love that some people are able to do stuff like this even now.
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05-20-2013, 10:28 AM | #6 |
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Mind if I ask what kind of printer you have and what kind of material you used? That's a pretty sweet figure. I always wondered how well a fully printed figure at that size would be able to hold poses and stuff.
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05-20-2013, 10:57 AM | #7 |
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The figure was printed on a Mojo from Stratasys. It uses ABS plastic. The joints are not as tight as on a normal action figure. I gave them some room to adjust for printer irregularities and friction over time. But the joints of the figure are good enough for posing as you can see in the pictures above.
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05-21-2013, 05:49 AM | #8 |
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I think this will be a great talking point for the front page, and this - IMO is the future of "Customs".
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05-21-2013, 06:53 AM | #9 |
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The figure was printed on a Mojo from Stratasys. It uses ABS plastic. The joints are not as tight as on a normal action figure. I gave them some room to adjust for printer irregularities and friction over time. But the joints of the figure are good enough for posing as you can see in the pictures above.
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05-21-2013, 07:43 AM | #10 |
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First of all, beautiful work. I absolutely love it. And I agree with the people above on more details please. How long did this take you? How hard was it to design the figure in program? etc. Great job
Second, while I agree with what the front page said about it presenting as a threat to the toy industry, I think there are still some caveats. The 3-D printing equipment (today) is super expensive. Of course, over time the prices might go down but I think affordability will always be a factor and not everyone will be able to afford the hardware/software/materials to do this (even in the future). Not to mention that some people may lack the technical skills to pull it off as well. Regardless, this post makes me happy because it demonstrates that in a little time we won't be limited to what the toy companies produce. On the other hand, what does that mean for collecting? A lot of MISB, MOSC collectors often look for resell value on their toys. If the toy industry moves to individuals producing their own toys, what becomes collectible then? Just interesting points to consider. |
05-21-2013, 08:04 AM | #11 |
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The other angle is the paint. I can see those with good paint skills getting a rock star status. It will be much easier to sell the above figure later if it was painted by rock-star-painter than if I did it. So finding model A with painter B will be the collector focus on eBay or whatever I think. Especially if the painter documents he's only doing a limited run of paint jobs per figure. And, realistically, until I can get something that is indiscernible from a Hasbro product, in quality of materials, paint apps, mold sharpness - for 10-20 bucks, it's not something I'd get into. Since printers won't be buying materials in bulk, and painters aren't being paid 10 cents an hour, it can't happen. The big guys will have to abandon the market completely so there is no other choice before I'd pay 100 bucks for a well done 3d figure. Exciting times either way, I hope it creates a kick ass boutique market and forces the big guys to step up their game, address adult needs for real. |
05-21-2013, 08:46 AM | #12 |
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Thanks again for all the feedback. Unfortunately I have no video of my printer working. But I am sure there are examples of the printer working on the stratasys website. Printing all the parts for the figure takes about 32 hours. The material cost is at least three times what a figure of similar size and articulation would cost in a store. It took me a couple of weeks to make the 3D model until it was perfect for printing. But the cool thing is that now I have a template for future figure designs.
I think it will still take a while until 3D printing will be cheap and detailed enough for extensive personal use. I can really only do it because I have all the equipment for work anyway.
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05-21-2013, 09:33 AM | #13 |
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Sharing will always happen, but if they work ahead of time to create a library of CAD files of the entire history of hasbro, there are people who will legally buy those to print at home so they will see at least some revenue and create a precedent for providing a service before a throng of customizers create that library first. The old days are gone and they're never going to see a CAD file go for the price of a figure, but next to nothing in overhead they can create a library of thousands upon thousands of action figures to purchase. That money adds up, and the product is infinitely renewable for free. Find the right price point and add the convenience of assembly, paint, alternate scheme instructions, and you will have a market. We're still a couple years out from the right price point on 3d printers to make this a reality. Which is why Hasbro needs to prepare NOW. |
05-21-2013, 10:01 AM | #14 |
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Great job on the detail. Good to see other arkers with access to 3D printers. I see endless possibilities with this technology.
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05-21-2013, 10:07 AM | #15 |
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I think toy companies would be smart to invest in creating their own certified printers. This way they could give out printfiles that only work on their machines similar to the music bought on itunes only working on apple devices. They could also make sure those printers use child friendly materials to ensure child safety regulations. I think 3D printing could become big in customer service where people can print damaged parts or lost accessories.
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05-21-2013, 11:31 AM | #16 |
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I think toy companies would be smart to invest in creating their own certified printers. This way they could give out printfiles that only work on their machines similar to the music bought on itunes only working on apple devices. They could also make sure those printers use child friendly materials to ensure child safety regulations. I think 3D printing could become big in customer service where people can print damaged parts or lost accessories.
In the grand scheme of things, the money they would make off of this is peanuts compared to their movie properties and existing toy product on the shelves. But it keeps a foothold on their intellectual property online. |
05-21-2013, 12:41 PM | #17 |
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What software did you use to create the figure protype?
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05-21-2013, 01:35 PM | #18 |
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Incredible work, I've been waiting to see something like this ever since I found out about 3D printing. I find the possibilities behind 3D printing very exciting...I consider myself a custom figure aficionado and can't wait to see what people will eventually create, especially if the quality will rival manufactured releases. While I'm sure this may bring about some sort of legal issues I also think this may force companies like Hasbro to increase the quality of their product.
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05-21-2013, 02:36 PM | #19 |
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That is exceptional stuff. Well done!
Toy companies can safely count on my money, for now, as I'm pretty terrible with a paint brush. |
05-21-2013, 02:52 PM | #20 |
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Thanks again guys. I used Softimage for modeling the figure and the joints and then made the 3D file ready for printing in a program called netfabb. That program I also used to make the holes for the plugs and joints.
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Personally I do not see Hasbro giving out printfiles on current toys except for replacement parts. But it could be a cool way to offer long out of print figures or even figures that were never produced. There would be no harm in releasing the old Super Powers figures as printfiles for example. But that is just my opinion yours may differ.
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05-21-2013, 04:55 PM | #21 |
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something that I have been pondering is, if 3D printing REEEAAALLY takes off and hits the toy industry wouldn't marvel and or DC and plenty of other companies start cracking down and banning making of their characters?
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05-21-2013, 05:04 PM | #22 |
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3d printing will not kill hasbro or any other main toy company, it's cost. the printers might come down in price but the materials wont. also the time designing something and then printing it make it as a main stream thing a moot point. i make a lot of custom toys and every now and again ones for retail and there is benefits to 3d printing for personal use. the notion of 3d printing your own toys is great but has it's draw backs. 3d printers are great for prototyping and single projects but for anything more than that is wishful thinking. people have been casting toy/model parts for years and it barely even a blip in the grand scale of the retail. thinking hasbro should sell 3d models of their products is at this time very very very wishful thinking, shapeways has all sorts of stuff on their site for sale that is 3d printed and it's still not a game changer.
this being said i'm not knocking anyone who 3d prints there own stuff, it's pretty darn cool
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05-21-2013, 05:13 PM | #23 |
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This is an interesting article of the actual state of 3D printing today:
http://gizmodo.com/why-3d-printing-i...t-fo-508176750
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05-21-2013, 08:16 PM | #24 |
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Personally I do not see Hasbro giving out printfiles on current toys except for replacement parts. But it could be a cool way to offer long out of print figures or even figures that were never produced. There would be no harm in releasing the old Super Powers figures as printfiles for example.
But that is just my opinion yours may differ. |
05-21-2013, 10:39 PM | #25 |
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3d printing would be awesome for guns/weapons, headcasts,bullets, bases, etc, smaller stuff that has limited detail compared to an entire figure, and less time designing/making, and could be mass produced, would be sweet to have a Tony Stark Head for every figure I own, rather then buying a figure just to get the headsculpt. Or buy a MS figure just to get the base.
I do like the idea of Hasbro making a toy repair centre, where you can take a broken toy and make a new replacement part. Cheaper then buying a new one. Or Hasbro selling online pieces, such as bases, weapons, headcasts, similiar to what Spawn.com used to do. The other issue I thought of with 3d printing to be profitable is licensing rights, you can't make and sell Spiderman toys, even if it's your own design without giving Disney/Marvel a piece of the action, so your left coming up original characters and designs which is hard to sell to a mass audience, without doing a cartoon or movie. |
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