[Do Boy]

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Originally Posted by tlasjr

This is WITHOUT A DOUBT fraud. You are entering the store and attesting to the fact you purchased them there in order to make a profit. There is not a single state where signing your name to false information to make a profit is not fraud.
Your chances for detection are minimal though and if caught they would likely just say "dont do that"

The Walmart bit is fair game, though if you did it enough they would probably ban you from returns. Till then I say go for it. They set the price, heck, you may even been able to skip a step and just get a price adjustment.

It's not like they are losing anything. I just turned around and bought $40 worth of stuff from them any ways. That's why they give you store credit. They know people do it. So they don't really lose when you spend it right back there anyways.

[Jason Abbadon]

Action figure GOd says you're going to Action Figure Hell- endless searching and only MU series 1 Iron Man on every peg.

[Do Boy]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Action figure GOd says you're going to Action Figure Hell- endless searching and only MU series 1 Iron Man on every peg.

It's all good. I'm up to date anyways. not that I got Magneto and Absorbing man. My wallet could use a break lol

[Dylan in Oregon]

These stores have their heads WAY up their asses when it comes to MU. I say stick it to 'em!

[Galactus]

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Originally Posted by Peteparker

Hey gents,

Here in Albuquerque, I figured out that we have one store among 7 which no longer sells MU figures. I had an inkling that this was true when I found a Bucky and a modern Havoc in their clearance section a few weeks ago, both for $4 or less.

Anyway, I have a Walmart next door which has had torn and clearanced peg-warmers hanging up there for 6+ weeks. And when I took the torn package to the front to customer service, and found it back on the pegs UNCHANGED the next day, I decided to experiment.

I bought all of the undamaged peg-warmers on a credit card and took them down to the clearanced store to see what would happen if I tried to return them there. I figured at worst they'd only return the figures at the in-store prices, and I'd just take them back to my local one with that knowledge in the future.

Well, they accepted the return of 7 figures and gave me all of my money back. (Though I had to correct them when they used the wrong price on one by mistake). They had to change the price in their register from the in-store price ($2) to the receipt price, but they did so without batting an eye. I found it interesting, since they no longer had any space to put them up.

The next day, I popped by just to see where those 7 would end up. There they were, right up on the Captain America 3.75" pegs in front of the remaining figures. There were no reduced prices on them, and no indication that they'd be any different than the peg price (full 7.99 or whatever). I grabbed a Union Jack and checked his in-store price at a scanner around the corner. It came up as $2. So I took it up to the register and paid $2.16 for a figure I didn't really care about that I had previously bought and returned for $7.99.

So I don't know how this fits with all of your morals, but this has been verified to work. You do risk whatever figures you do this with being nabbed up until you get back there. Two of the 7 were gone by the time I got there, possibly not put back in the same place?

And I left the rest of the figures I returned, since I didn't really want them anyway.

Whoa another fellow collector in Albuqeurque? andi thought i was the only one lol.

[Colder Soldier]

I knew this thread was ready to blow any second. Anyway, let me address the comments posed to me...

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Originally Posted by JustryGT

How do we know if it is loopholing until we know how much the store pays for their inventory?
Are you serious to think that anyone is jealous over some reject figures bought at discount after waiting in line 3 times between 2 stores?
I thought the attitudes of most collectors would be that finding the cream of the crop at a decent price is the goal. I am not building a collection of dollar store toys. Savings should not be the goal because if you really need to save, then STOP collecting .

1. What does knowing how much a store pays for things have anything to do with the loophole being discussed in this thread? I really don't care how much the store pays, just how much I'm paying.

2. Reject, dollar store figures? We're talking Marvel Universe figures here. If you got lost looking for whatever gold-plated, diamond encrusted toys you collect, please feel free to continue your quest elsewhere and live us to building our dollar store collections.

3. I do need to save. So does about 98% of everyone else living on the planet. I still go to work, pay all my bills, taxes, and support myself with 100% effeciency with help from no one else. I feel that while doing so, if I want to go buy a case of toys, a pair of RYZ H-G3's, and 6 amaretto sours to get this chick to "open up", I will.

I still like to save a dollar wherever I can. Even while doing so, I can also continue doing things I like. So, I don't need to STOP collecting just yet.

[Jason Abbadon]

Really- this is just a step away from justifying the old Cantina Swap- after all "who cares about the store", right?

Untill they see a million MU returns nad decide no one wants the figures and stop carrying them.

[fosterlager]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Untill they see a million MU returns nad decide no one wants the figures and stop carrying them.

That's why the store you dump your returns at needs to be outside of your usual hunting grounds.

[Colder Soldier]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Really- this is just a step away from justifying the old Cantina Swap- after all "who cares about the store", right?

Untill they see a million MU returns nad decide no one wants the figures and stop carrying them.

The "old Cantina Swap" is stealing. It states in pretty much every store's return policy that the contents must be returned with it's (own) packaging to conduct a return. One trying to return a Star Wars figure one put in Marvel Universe packaging is fraudulent. It plainly goes against the written policy and shouldn't be honored.

[Jason Abbadon]

This is just as fradulent- it's costing the store money that they would not have otherwise have spent and it looks bad.
That you're doing it for several purchases makes it worse- the swap is bad (and funny) but it's just one item.

[M3T4L V1KING]

I personally think people are taking this shit WAY too seriously.

[Jason Abbadon]

I dont realy care either way- it's pretty isolated- I'm just saying, dont justify it as something it's not.

[Colder Soldier]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

This is just as fradulent- it's costing the store money that they would not have otherwise have spent and it looks bad.
That you're doing it for several purchases makes it worse- the swap is bad (and funny) but it's just one item.

I disagree. As with most all discount department stores, you can return an item you bought at one store to any of their other store's across the country. They want to turn around and sell it for 20% of what they just exchanged for it, that's up to them. The customers reap the savings.

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Originally Posted by M3T4L V1KING

I personally think people are taking this shit WAY too seriously.

I agree.

Your avatar looks like Jaga. Is that Jaga?

[joemama13]

WOw great deal!

[M3T4L V1KING]

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Originally Posted by Colder Soldier

I agree.

Your avatar looks like Jaga. Is that Jaga?

I honestly have noooooooo idea lol

[tlasjr]

Depends. What if the next person who buys them price matches the TRU ad and gets the second one for less. Either way I don't think "they may not have lost money on the deal" would be a defense an attorney would let you go with.
Target expects some of that though. Thats why they limit you to two or three returns without a receipt in a rollign yea, or why they told meas a cashier a couple years back not to bother with a price check if a customer disputed a price if it was less than $20.
I'm not judging Do Boy, yeah it's technically illegal but so is downloading copy written material or playing the football card at work. If you're okay with it go with it.

[Do Boy]

So does that mean taking a $7 toy to a Comic shop and getting $12 store credit illegal?

[JustryGT]

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Originally Posted by JustryGT

...
I thought the attitudes of most collectors would be that finding the cream of the crop at a decent price is the goal. I am not building a collection of dollar store toys. Savings should not be the goal because if you really need to save, then STOP collecting .

I apologize for not being clear about this statement. I use "you " a lot and don't mean to refer to anyone personally because we are all the same .
I don't think many Marvel Universe collectors are going to see a variant Archangel , or Unmasked Iron Patriot at the store and leave it there because they are waiting for a sale. Most of use share the same goal ; acquire cool toys at a decent price.

acquire cool toys at a decent price first and foremost. Save on things if you have plenty of free time .

Saving alone as a hobby means you waste a lot of time and might end up with less than you really wanted. I know so many people that drive all over to use a coupon .

Dont get me wrong. I was very happy to buy variant Archangel for $4.98 and umasked Iron Patriot for $3.50 at Walmart. But I would have also paid $7.99 to get on with life and I do that often as well.
Recently I debated on paying the full $25.00 at TRU for the Iron Man 2 Nick Fury 4 pack with 2 drones. They have sooo many that the clearance seems inevitable. Then I remembered my goal/ focus/ priority was to get one with good paint . So I went back and was able to pick the one I liked best of the 20 that were there (other stores have more) and paid full price.

When I saw the new Assasins' Creed line at Target I kind of wanted it. Unfortunately it was never a priority so the current price forced me to " STOP collecting". I am waiting for the clearance on those toys because they are not really selling .

I also had hoped by now we would have more insight as to whether or not PeterParkers clearance price is close to the store's costs. I often wondered how Target can sell me Tron , Terminator 4 , and Prince of Persia, DC Crisis,( I could go on) for only $1.48 on clearance. It seems like every short lived toy line gets marked down 75 percent at Target. If that is how much these stores buy them for then PeterParker's stunt left the store breaking even once all 7 get sold.

This was a fun discussion. I love all of you guys. Sorry for the long post .

[Peteparker]

Too many things to comment on!

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Originally Posted by Do Boy

A few bucks? He saved $6 that's almost a whole figure lol.

And had I re-bought all of them, that's $6 for 7 figures, $42 bucks out of my own pocket I just saved. (Not that I did that).

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Originally Posted by JustryGT

You brought up "morals" twice. Are you sure you're not having a moral issue with this?
You have no idea what my morals and perspectives are . I am flattered that you would assume I have morals .

I feel bad for the nice people I meet along the way who are going along with the whole thing. I have a terrible knack for giving everyone the benefit of the doubt beyond when they've earned it.

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Originally Posted by Fedup23

You: "Here is 6 bucks Fedup"

Me: "Thanks!"

You: "Hold on..there is a catch..you have to goto WalmartA and buy a figure..then drive 5 miles to WalmartB..get in the return line and return the figure..then go home. Two days later I need you to return to WalmartB and head to the toy isle and see if the figure has been returned to stock. Hopefully somebody didnt buy it before you get back there! Now goto the register to pay for it..it MAY have been marked at the discounted price!!! IT's that easy!!

ME: Here's your 6 bucks back.

Haha. See, to me, I'm driving to all the Walmarts in town looking for new stock anyway, so I'm already there, I may as well do something along the way.

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Originally Posted by JustryGT

Savings should not be the goal because if you really need to save, then STOP collecting.
When you look at your collection, cant you see that the GOAL was to have the stuff and not to save money?

My personal goal is to have the best collection I can for the absolute cheapest I can.

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

To me, in this battle between risk and reward, risk won. Too much hassle for me to bother attempting. Especially for pegwarmers that I probably already own...

Anyway, here is a helpful site if you run across any other mysterious acronyms. It helps me sometimes when I read online tech white papers:

Abbreviations and acronyms dictionary: Find definitions for over 4,219,000 abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms

I agree with the risk being too high on figures I absolutely need, and thanks for the link!

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Originally Posted by tlasjr

The Walmart bit is fair game, though if you did it enough they would probably ban you from returns. Till then I say go for it. They set the price, heck, you may even been able to skip a step and just get a price adjustment.

That's a decent idea, but I'd have to somehow know they had a discount price without seeing it posted anywhere...

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Whoa another fellow collector in Albuqeurque? andi thought i was the only one lol.

You're not! There are a handful of us around here, keep us posted on your finds in the New Mexico thread!

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

It's only a crime if you're conviced..just look at Florida's governor.

That has to be one of the most unintentionally funny typos I've seen today.

And remind me to never get conviced when I'm in Florida.

[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

That has to be one of the most unintentionally funny typos I've seen today.

And remind me to never get conviced when I'm in Florida.

I would especially think this true in Miami

[tlasjr]

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Originally Posted by Do Boy

So does that mean taking a $7 toy to a Comic shop and getting $12 store credit illegal?

Your question isn't clear and highlights the difference in the two scenarios.
If you are selling them to the comic store with the knowledge they were bought somewhere else as they think they can make a profit, no clearly not illegal.
If you are lying to them saying you are returning a product you bought there but in fact purchased elsewhere, then yes, you are intentionally misleading them to gather a profit you are otherwise unentitled too.
Again I'm not judging you for it. It's like sneaking into a movie. 50-50 chance that if you told the clerk what you were doing they wouldn't even care.

The Walmart bit is legal. They were purchased legally. They were returned to another location per Walmart policy and purchased legally again. I mas actually do this during the coming weekend.

[Do Boy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlasjr

Your question isn't clear and highlights the difference in the two scenarios.
If you are selling them to the comic store with the knowledge they were bought somewhere else as they think they can make a profit, no clearly not illegal.
If you are lying to them saying you are returning a product you bought there but in fact purchased elsewhere, then yes, you are intentionally misleading them to gather a profit you are otherwise unentitled too.
Again I'm not judging you for it. It's like sneaking into a movie. 50-50 chance that if you told the clerk what you were doing they wouldn't even care.

The Walmart bit is legal. They were purchased legally. They were returned to another location per Walmart policy and purchased legally again. I mas actually do this during the coming weekend.

I don't a difference. Both a comic shop and Target would give me STORE credit to where I couldn't spend it any where else. So they aren't losing anything. And they are getting there money back. I still fail to see how this is illegal. Bad morals maybe.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

That has to be one of the most unintentionally funny typos I've seen today.

And remind me to never get conviced when I'm in Florida.

Er...it's only a crime if the general public is convinced you did it!
There! I fixed it, and I dont look quite so dumb...