[Xcaliber037]

Let's get some battles going! Then we'll place votes on who wins. (or not.... Doesnt matter)

Up first...

Batman vs Wolverine

Scenario...

Batman goes to investigate a possible crime ring hideout at an abandoned warehouse where he happens to come across Wolverine who is looking into memories of his tortured past. Wolverine smells a suspicious oder (Batman) then prepares for battle.




Who takes this?


Feel free to start your own battle scenario with pics here!

[omega145]

Great pics and I love that wolverine. Wolverine is stronger, faster and more aggressive. Easy win for wolverine in my book.

[Tiberius]

Wolverine. But it wouldn't be an easy victory by any means.

[Xcaliber037]

Yea I say Wolverine but not by much... If at all. (How's that for indecision) Thing is... Bats always has a way out. At least the writers always give him one. So.... Hmmmm maybe Bats just happens to have some electrocuting wolverine spray and manages to leave the battle before Wolvy heals and is more pissed. Logan better not follow Bats to a junkyard where there's an electromagnet. So if I had to choose.... I'll say Batman... Why not. lol

[Saint Phe]

In a straight up fight Wolverine would win. But Bats probably wouldn't put himself in that situation and could come up with just the right trick, like Xcaliber's electromagnet idea.

[MasterSock]

Wolverine! Now if batman knew what he was up against i would say batman hands down.

[Xcaliber037]

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Originally Posted by MasterSock

Wolverine! Now if batman knew what he was up against i would say batman hands down.

Yea I agree. How long do you think it will take Bats to figure out there's metal on his bones. One punch? Three? Last time I accidentally hit a metal object it hurt like hell! If Wolvy lands one strike it's over for Bats.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by Xcaliber037

Yea I agree. How long do you think it will take Bats to figure out there's metal on his bones. One punch? Three? Last time I accidentally hit a metal object it hurt like hell! If Wolvy lands one strike it's over for Bats.

Instant, the moment Wolverine brings out his claws, Batman would know. He isn't called "The Worlds Greatest Detective" for nothing.

[behindthemask]

If batman has witnessed wolverine say beating up Deadpool he would easily be able to spot the claws, healing capabilities and would of thrown a tracking meter on him, found his hide out, took the bat jet out and blew the shit out of him, or if he felt like a more direct approach he'd find a giant magnet clip it on his utility belt and lift his ass into a trash compactor. But if I was Batman and seen a grown man shoot 2 foot steel blades out of his hands I'd just throw Robin at him and get the fuck out of there with a batarang throw and a grappling hook.

[Xcaliber037]

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Originally Posted by behindthemask

If batman has witnessed wolverine say beating up Deadpool he would easily be able to spot the claws, healing capabilities and would of thrown a tracking meter on him, found his hide out, took the bat jet out and blew the shit out of him, or if he felt like a more direct approach he'd find a giant magnet clip it on his utility belt and lift his ass into a trash compactor. But if I was Batman and seen a grown man shoot 2 foot steel blades out of his hands I'd just throw Robin at him and get the fuck out of there with a batarang throw and a grappling hook.

Lol! Poor Robin. Yea I don't think there is anyone in the DC universe that has stronger then metal claws growing out of a man. I'd get the heck out of there too. For this battle this is a first time encounter but either way Bats would be able to figure out rather quickly this guy is covered in metal. Crazy thing. Wolverine would totally survive a trash compactor. If he was conscious he'd claw is way out of there no prob. If he was unconscious the compactor wouldn't be able to crush the adamantium and Batman's jaw would hit the floor. He would need explosives or gas to knock him out momentarily. Something he has on his belt all the time.

[Optimus Vader]

I thought Tiberius started this thread somewhere else already? Wolverine would rip Batman to pieces. I'm not really sure how it would be even be close.

[Xcaliber037]

I have been meaning to start a cross platform toy versus thread like comicvine does their battles but I kept putting it of. It could be anything... Neca vs DC, Transformers vs GI Joe, Voltron vs smurfs...What ever you want as long as there's cool battle pics for all to enjoy! There is no better place to do that than here on Toyark!

So far we have um..
4 votes for Wolverine
2 votes undecided I believe?
1 vote for Batman

What do you think guys... After 3 days we tally up and get a conclusion photo? The thread doesn't have to end. We just put pics and scenario for the next battle.

[omega145]

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Originally Posted by Optimus Vader

I thought Tiberius started this thread somewhere else already? Wolverine would rip Batman to pieces. I'm not really sure how it would be even be close.

His thread doesn't have pics and has a poll. I agree on Wolverine ripping him to pieces and think it'd be no match. If Batman could plan for the fight then maybe he could figure something out but that wasn't the scenario.

3 days is good for me and would like to see the end result pic, just be sure to include lots of blood.

[iLegends73]

well if batman can find away to deal with killer croc all these years then im guessing he'd figure out some kinda way to atleast hold wolvie back...im riding with bats on this. plus i say if in the comics, punisher held his own when he got mixed up with sentry then bats can definetly pull it off

[Xcaliber037]

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Originally Posted by behindthemask

I'd just throw Robin at him and get the fuck out of there with a batarang throw and a grappling hook.

This one is for you!

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Originally Posted by iLegends73

well if batman can find away to deal with killer croc all these years then im guessing he'd figure out some kinda way to atleast hold wolvie back...im riding with bats on this. plus i say if in the comics, punisher held his own when he got mixed up with sentry then bats can definetly pull it off

Yea Bats has held his own against beings way more powerful than Wolverine so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt any day. The man has files on how to take down anyone in the justice league for crying out loud. Thing is... I don't believe anyone in DC is as willing to kill someone as Wolverine is. The dude takes a beating and comes after you madder then hell.

Two days left before we off one of these guys!

[trebleshot]

Welcome to the rabbit hole. Enjoy your stay

But I like the idea of opening up the battles to any line, any character. I would suggest using the Poll feature when you start new threads, as it will make it easier to keep track of the voting.

Here's my take on this battle and why:

I'd say Wolverine wins in a first encounter. Wolverine's too quick and aggressive to give Bats enough time to really use his detective skills and figure out how to take Logan down. Now if Bats planned it out, got intel on Wolverine, then yeah Batman would probably figure out some way of containing or incapacitating him.

And I'm not sure what the strength of Batman's knock-out gas is, but it may not affect Wolverine as much as say, a typical DCU street thug (Batman's normal target for those). Logan's healing factor may only let him get a little light-headed instead of getting knocked out.

Which brings me to Bat-Explosives. Batman would have to be lobbing some heavy-grade explosives to knock down Wolverine. But that begs the question: why would Batman carry something like that on a regular basis? Does he typically carry around Bat-Grenades now?

Also, Logan has had literally decades more fighting experience than Batman (based on their origin stories, not their comic debuts). Batman's reflexes and tactical mind may be at peak levels, but Wolverine's reflexes are superhuman and is at least on equal footing regarding tactical prowess.

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Instant, the moment Wolverine brings out his claws, Batman would know. He isn't called "The Worlds Greatest Detective" for nothing.

How? Seeing a man pop out 2-foot-long claws from his gloved forearm doesn't conclusively prove that the guy has a metal skeleton (or even a metal-coated skeleton). If anything, Batman might conclude that Wolverine has cybernetic arms.

I do think it's possible that Batman would figure something's up with Wolverine's body if he manages to land a punch on Wolverine and practically breaks his hand doing it. But even still, that doesn't necessarily mean that Batman will immediately know he's got a metal skeleton, or that it can be affected by magnetism.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting Batman's phenomenal detective skills. But the problem that I have with this particular scenario is that I don't see Batman having enough time to use them effectively. Given enough time and research, I'm sure Bruce would find a way to win. That, unfortunately is not the case here.

Batman may be the world's greatest detective, but Wolverine is the best he is at what he does.

[Mastersteef]

My friends and I have gotten into shouting matches about hero fights like this actually (true nerdery at its finest)

And so I set up a few rules for "Hero Fights" that my friends all agreed were fair to both characters involved:

1. Combatants are snatched from the moment (in time and place) at which they are at their absolute peak and 'ported right to the arena (without time to prepare) with whatever they normally carry with them day to day on patrol.

2. The arena is the size of a football field with an unbreakable dome covering (as well as lights that shine through the translucent dome covering on all sides) so that combatants can't use the environment against each other. The dome also blocks ALL outside signals, calls, interference, etc...

3. Combatants are to fight to the death, and are either A) given motivation to do so (i.e. Aunt may, or Robin being held at gunpoint etc.) or B.) Induced with something that disables their moral center but not their logic.

4. Combatants will take the kill shot when they can, as soon as they see their opening.

So, following these rules; it wouldn't be an easy fight for Wolverine but unless Bats' managed to somehow lodge something in Wolverine's brain without getting eviscerated in the process then Wolvie takes this fight.

Also: When we get to the inevitable Wolverine vs. Spidey fight I will post pics of how Spidey could theoretically win that.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

How? Seeing a man pop out 2-foot-long claws from his gloved forearm doesn't conclusively prove that the guy has a metal skeleton (or even a metal-coated skeleton). If anything, Batman might conclude that Wolverine has cybernetic arms.

I do think it's possible that Batman would figure something's up with Wolverine's body if he manages to land a punch on Wolverine and practically breaks his hand doing it. But even still, that doesn't necessarily mean that Batman will immediately know he's got a metal skeleton, or that it can be affected by magnetism.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting Batman's phenomenal detective skills. But the problem that I have with this particular scenario is that I don't see Batman having enough time to use them effectively. Given enough time and research, I'm sure Bruce would find a way to win. That, unfortunately is not the case here.

Batman may be the world's greatest detective, but Wolverine is the best he is at what he does.

Good points! I'll say this, Batman would know instantly when he uses his suits "detective mode" like in Arkham Asylum. :P

[omega145]

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Originally Posted by Mastersteef

My friends and I have gotten into shouting matches about hero fights like this actually (true nerdery at its finest)

And so I set up a few rules for "Hero Fights" that my friends all agreed were fair to both characters involved:

1. Combatants are snatched from the moment (in time and place) at which they are at their absolute peak and 'ported right to the arena (without time to prepare) with whatever they normally carry with them day to day on patrol.

2. The arena is the size of a football field with an unbreakable dome covering (as well as lights that shine through the translucent dome covering on all sides) so that combatants can't use the environment against each other. The dome also blocks ALL outside signals, calls, interference, etc...

3. Combatants are to fight to the death, and are either A) given motivation to do so (i.e. Aunt may, or Robin being held at gunpoint etc.) or B.) Induced with something that disables their moral center but not their logic.

4. Combatants will take the kill shot when they can, as soon as they see their opening.

So, following these rules; it wouldn't be an easy fight for Wolverine but unless Bats' managed to somehow lodge something in Wolverine's brain without getting eviscerated in the process then Wolvie takes this fight.

Also: When we get to the inevitable Wolverine vs. Spidey fight I will post pics of how Spidey could theoretically win that.

Excellent rules. Wolvie wins this one 10 out of 10 times.

[Xcaliber037]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

And I'm not sure what the strength of Batman's knock-out gas is, but it may not affect Wolverine as much as say, a typical DCU street thug (Batman's normal target for those). Logan's healing factor may only let him get a little light-headed instead of getting knocked out.

Which brings me to Bat-Explosives. Batman would have to be lobbing some heavy-grade explosives to knock down Wolverine. But that begs the question: why would Batman carry something like that on a regular basis? Does he typically carry around Bat-Grenades now?

Check out Justice League: Crisis on two earths. His gas grenade was able to knock out someone close to Superman's strength. Although.. yea I think knock out gas is something that doesn't effect Wolvy too much. But, if it's that powerful then who knows. Again, just because the writers tend to give him a way out, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt unless it's against the likes of Phoenix or Silver Surfer.

Yes he typically carries around just about everything only micro sized.
check out Batman: Under the Red Hood I think. They're about the size of his palm and on a time delay. They pack quite the punch.

Also, Batman: Gotham Knight for anything really.

I love both characters so I hope I'm not showing any bias here. Just good o'l fun superhero talk.

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Originally Posted by Mastersteef

My friends and I have gotten into shouting matches about hero fights like this actually (true nerdery at its finest)

And so I set up a few rules for "Hero Fights" that my friends all agreed were fair to both characters involved:

1. Combatants are snatched from the moment (in time and place) at which they are at their absolute peak and 'ported right to the arena (without time to prepare) with whatever they normally carry with them day to day on patrol.

2. The arena is the size of a football field with an unbreakable dome covering (as well as lights that shine through the translucent dome covering on all sides) so that combatants can't use the environment against each other. The dome also blocks ALL outside signals, calls, interference, etc...

3. Combatants are to fight to the death, and are either A) given motivation to do so (i.e. Aunt may, or Robin being held at gunpoint etc.) or B.) Induced with something that disables their moral center but not their logic.

4. Combatants will take the kill shot when they can, as soon as they see their opening.

So, following these rules; it wouldn't be an easy fight for Wolverine but unless Bats' managed to somehow lodge something in Wolverine's brain without getting eviscerated in the process then Wolvie takes this fight.

Also: When we get to the inevitable Wolverine vs. Spidey fight I will post pics of how Spidey could theoretically win that.

Yea those are good rules. Whoever starts the fight and scenario can make up their own rules. I didn't do that for this scenario because Bats has a knack for using his surroundings like any well versed martial artist. If you watch any Jackie Chan movie he uses chairs, couch, lamp, broom, stick, mug, cup, paper, jacket, refrigerator, door, rock, more chairs, shoe, shoe laces, food, phone, cell phone, rabbits.... you get the picture.
And Bats is versed in most if not all martial arts including the way of the samurai and ninjitsu. Taking away surroundings and shadows from Batman is like filling down Wolvy's claws.

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Good points! I'll say this, Batman would know instantly when he uses his suits "detective mode" like in Arkham Asylum. :P

Arkham Batman rocks!

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Originally Posted by omega145

Excellent rules. Wolvie wins this one 10 out of 10 times.

I wouldn't say 10 out of 10

[Dylan in Oregon]

Um... I think in all cases it would just depend on who is writing.

And as for you, Mastersteef, just, wow.

[omega145]

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Originally Posted by Xcaliber037

I wouldn't say 10 out of 10

If this is a battle out of nowhere than I dont see anyway how Batman would win. Batman has his gadgets which wouldnt help him much against a mutant with claws that'd go right through his armor and bones that wont break.

[Mastersteef]

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Originally Posted by Xcaliber037

Taking away surroundings and shadows from Batman is like filling down Wolvy's claws.

I see what you're getting at here, however I think Wolvie's heightened senses would negate a lot of Batman's tactics in a shadowy area anyway.

Here is Bats' entry on the DC wikia (written by much bigger nerds than me, lol)

Batman (Bruce Wayne) - DC Comics Database

Based on this info, I don't think Bats' would have the least bit of trouble not having any shadows to hide in, or rabbits to um...throw(?)...during this fight. In fact, I actually kind of worry for Wolverines chances now....

[Xcaliber037]

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Originally Posted by Mastersteef

I see what you're getting at here, however I think Wolvie's heightened senses would negate a lot of Batman's tactics in a shadowy area anyway.

Yea his heightened sense of smell is sick. In Wolverine and the X-Men his sense of smell is like drawing a picture of the scene. Not sure how comic accurate it is but its a marvel cartoon. Bats would have a hard time hiding. He doest it so well though. He always disappears the second you turn your back. A good match to start this off with non the less! Plus we get to vote on the outcome with battle pics! I'd be interested to see what a match between the smurfs and Voltron would look like.

[Xcaliber037]

Bhhhaaahaha!!

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