[martymcfly160]

is logan still running the squad?

[Greenskar]

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is logan still running the squad?

No. This is just my speculation as to why, but it seems that whatever is about to happen in what remains in the Final Execution story arc will affect Wolverine such that he will not be a part of a hit squad any more. He will be dedicating his time to his school and to being an Avenger, since we know he will be a member of Remender's Uncanny Avengers team that includes: Thor, Cap, Scarlet Witch, Rogue and Havok.

As of now the popular guess for who will lead the new Uncanny X-Force is Psylocke, since she's the only returning member of the team so far that knows how a black ops team should operate. Storm is a leader, but I don't think she'd make a good leader for this type of team since she's never been a killer.

[Iceman]

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And why do we believe this? Only because that's what Eva told the team. For all we know she could do whatever Fantomex wanted her to do at his own command...hell for all we know he was hittin EVA in that form before Betsy came along. *Shudders* lol.

It's just a gut feeling because that wouldn't mesh with the writing style IMO. They left themselves a lot of outs but the change in EVA is so extreme. Could Fantomex have ordered her to do that? Yes. But I do hope that they don't go that route and reveal EVA just switches her form like that all the time.

[Greenskar]

Oh believe me, what your expectations are, is the perfect scenario I prefer. Forgive my pessimistic outcome scenarios, I've just been burned by things like this in comics too often to count so I'm hoping for some reverse Karma so to speak lol.

[martymcfly160]

but now i feel shits just gonna get more complicated with cable rounding up his own squad of x-force . . . i dont know a bout you guys but i feel wolverine was a perfect leader for the x-force and if i was to write for marvel i would have some way some how worked sabertooth back into good terms some way some how and made him an anti hero type member of x-force where he would not be around much but pop up from time to time something like a vegeta and goku relationship

[Greenskar]

Ummm...I have to disagree with your Sabertooth comment and add that if I was a writer at Marvel I would have done everything in my power to ensure Sabertooth stayed dead. You know, so death can actually mean something in these stories.

Wolverine is a great leader for a hit squad, but if you haven't read Old Man Logan (well the first half at least), having a known killer become pacified due to some traumatic event can be a very captivating story. It allows for him to also become a character who gets to show off all he's capable of when you can't just run your claws through everything and anything that moves while growling like an animal.

I have full faith that Remender knows what he's doing writing Wolverine out of X-Force since it sets up why he's part of the Uncanny Avengers team. Cable's team is apparently being hunted as fugitives by Uncanny Avengers for a while for as of yet unknown reasons. I can see that becoming interesting, its Sam Humphries continuation of Uncanny X-Force that I'm on the fence with. There will be more additions to his team but I'm waiting for those reveals and maybe a review or two before I pick any issues up.

[Iceman]

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Ummm...I have to disagree with your Sabertooth comment and add that if I was a writer at Marvel I would have done everything in my power to ensure Sabertooth stayed dead. You know, so death can actually mean something in these stories.

This. Comic books just can stick with the death of any character that is remotely popular. I think it is because of the structure of comics and how they just keep going and going. Editors and creatives teams change so often and the they don't have to get approval from the last guy to change whatever they want. I do hate to see a big shake up happen only to be completely ignored when the next guy takes over.

I mean, a character may be gone for 10 years but in comic book time it's like they died a year or so ago, which makes revivals feel even more lame and often disruptive. Jean Grey's death is sticking so far but they can't help bringing in her AoA version or past self.

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by martymcfly160

but now i feel shits just gonna get more complicated with cable rounding up his own squad of x-force . . . i dont know a bout you guys but i feel wolverine was a perfect leader for the x-force and if i was to write for marvel i would have some way some how worked sabertooth back into good terms some way some how and made him an anti hero type member of x-force where he would not be around much but pop up from time to time something like a vegeta and goku relationship

Indeed he was the best, heck better than Cable.

[redfox]

Anybody else kind of dissappointed in EVA, so far? She hasn't really done anything. lol Just a little bit of small talk and background stalking.

[Exodus]

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Anybody else kind of dissappointed in EVA, so far? She hasn't really done anything. lol Just a little bit of small talk and background stalking.

A bit yes, and I thought Deathlok would play a bigger part.

[Greenskar]

Holy crap! Issue #32 might be the single best issue I've read from Apocalypse solution all the way to now. Absolutely amazing character moments, development, suspense, ahhh I don't even want to ruin what happens for anyone you have to read it. So many badass moments and great internal monologue. Fuckin Remender, this guy is brilliant!

Can't wait to see how this all ends!

10/10

[Iceman]

I will echo that. The end of the issue was plausible but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a ploy as well. The Wolverine in these pages is the Wolverine I know and love. Over in the pages of AvX it's another story.

[EL997]

*SPOILERS DON'T READ BELOW IF YOU HAVEN'T READ #32*

anyone think wade getting cancer will deus ex his healing factor somehow?

[Iceman]

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*SPOILERS DON'T READ BELOW IF YOU HAVEN'T READ #32*

anyone think wade getting cancer will deus ex his healing factor somehow?

Wouldn't surprise me but I don't know how he lost in the first place. Need to catch up on Deadpool.

[Exodus]

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Wouldn't surprise me but I don't know how he lost in the first place. Need to catch up on Deadpool.

Lost it in Deadpool 50-55, basically he gets a serum that negates his healing factor....

[Greenskar]

Based on November's issue #1 Marvel NOW relaunch (not reboot) It certainly looks like he gets it back somehow. There's only one issue left in Way's run and it comes out next week so we'll see.

Deadpool #1 Preview - IGN

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

Based on November's issue #1 Marvel NOW relaunch (not reboot) It certainly looks like he gets it back somehow. There's only one issue left in Way's run and it comes out next week so we'll see.

Deadpool #1 Preview - IGN

Has to be in Uncanny X-Force than.

[Greenskar]

Based on what just happened to him in the most recent UXF issue it would seemingly make sense. Although, it would be stupid in my opinion to not tie up that loose end in his own series before going into the next one, IMO.

Daniel Way started Deadpool off strong and then it just went downhill after the story arc with him trying to join the X-Men (the arc where he went to space started the downhill trend of suckiness for me). I hope the new creative team can make me care about this character again in a solo series.

[Iceman]

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Lost it in Deadpool 50-55, basically he gets a serum that negates his healing factor....

So it could just be sleeping and waiting to be triggered. I guess they just wanted him to have his old face back for a few issues.

[Exodus]

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So it could just be sleeping and waiting to be triggered. I guess they just wanted him to have his old face back for a few issues.

I can see that too. Interested in seeing how the other X-Force titles will be when this ends. Here's an update too of the new team.
COMICS: Marvel NOW! UNCANNY X-FORCE #1 Cover Reveals The Bizarre New Team Line-Up

[Greenskar]

Just read the final issue of Daniel Way's Deadpool run. Be gets his healing factor back because the serum was only a temporary cure, which is explained by the unexpected appearance of Evil Deadpool who was presumed dead many issues ago. Deadpool gets capped in the head by Evil Deadpool and way leaves the excerpt "Let the healing begin".

So it looks like he will most likely have his healing factor back in the remaining UXF issues.

[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by Exodus

I can see that too. Interested in seeing how the other X-Force titles will be when this ends. Here's an update too of the new team.
COMICS: Marvel NOW! UNCANNY X-FORCE #1 Cover Reveals The Bizarre New Team Line-Up

Is the EVA?

[Greenskar]

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Is the EVA?

Nope its apparently a character named...."Cluster".

So it has to be some iteration of Fantomex since he referred to himself as "Uncle Cluster" to Evan A.K.A Genesis.

[Iceman]

[Greenskar]

Just finished the final issue of Remender's Uncanny X-Force run and WOW! Talk about a series with character development, loose ends tied up and even set-ups for future stories within the greater Marvel Universe without loosing the core emotion of what has become a family unit with this team, and you just don't get that much better than what Remender has managed to accomplish with this series.

While we don't get any resolution to the AoA Nightcrawler betrayal it appears that will be dealt with in a separate book entirely and the focus is placed on the core team members. What this final issue exploits more than anything is that amidst all the current Deadpool haters who think he's just some overused mundane clown, Remender succeeded in making him the heart and soul of this book. Deadpool. Seriously,who'd have thunk it and not immediately brushed off the notion as just another lame Deadpool joke. THIS is the Deadpool I want to read about. If Remender ever returns to write Deadpool in the future just take my money now Marvel and consider it my preorder.

Wolverine has been the most emotionally and mentally decimated by this series than anyone else, including Psylocke, and if you anyone still wants to hate in Wolverine because they think, like Deadpool, he's overuse or find him to be overrated or over powered and one dimensional...clearly missed this series or just enjoy being haters cause haters gonna hate. Remender has written Wolverine better than anyone in recent years including the famed Whedon Run in Astonishing. That's right, that makes this series my new favorite X-series all time and among my favorite comic series in general of all time.

But if Remender deserves credit for anything its for his remarkable work writing Betsy Braddock. She's become one of my favorite female characters in comics through this series. How had she not been a top tier major player in comics is what I wonder after this series? I guess it just depends on the passion a particular writer brings to a specific character.

And while I'm certain people will have mixed feelings about clearing up the Fantomex situation with respect to the revelation of a female looking version of him in the new Uncanny X-Force series, I can only say, without spoilers, that I was completely satisfied with how it turned out.

5 stars for the final issue, and 5 stars for #1-35 of a truly satisfying run from my now favorite Comic Book Writer Rick Remender. I should also give credit to Opena, his artwork conveyed the emotion that otherwise could have made this comic just another X-Title (*cough*Greg Land*cough*)