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Originally Posted by Jmacq1

If the last few years are any indication, they'll definitely drop the next PvP prior to the new year. They seem to love loading up events around this time. Heck, they may even release the next chapter of PvE.

But I don't do PvP anymore. It's just gotten too frustrating and grind-y. When a single fight takes 20 minutes because of all the buffs/debuffs (particularly mind control)/heals/actions on some combos...it's just not fun anymore. And fighting an endless procession of Enchantress combos or Nul/Kuurth combos doesn't help.

True, that's why I'm happy I usually can take them out pretty fast I would say 70% of the time. Also they just dropped this. I wonder if PVP would be on this mobile version as well.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/marvel-...140000031.html

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True, that's why I'm happy I usually can take them out pretty fast I would say 70% of the time. Also they just dropped this. I wonder if PVP would be on this mobile version as well.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/marvel-...140000031.html

I wouldn't be surprised if this tanks about as badly as Avengers Alliance Tactics did. People aren't going to want to grind everything all over again. Then again, they probably won't get a chance to protest, as they'll just stop supporting MAA1, so it'll be "Play 2 or play nothing."

Still, it's inevitable. Avengers Alliance really does feel like it's close to having run it's course. Honestly I'm surprised it took this long.

Maybe if we're super-lucky (I doubt it) they'll give some good bonuses for folks that loyally played MAA. But I won't be holding my breath.

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I wouldn't be surprised if this tanks about as badly as Avengers Alliance Tactics did. People aren't going to want to grind everything all over again. Then again, they probably won't get a chance to protest, as they'll just stop supporting MAA1, so it'll be "Play 2 or play nothing."

Still, it's inevitable. Avengers Alliance really does feel like it's close to having run it's course. Honestly I'm surprised it took this long.

Maybe if we're super-lucky (I doubt it) they'll give some good bonuses for folks that loyally played MAA. But I won't be holding my breath.

Haha agree, I forgot about that game, MAAT no longer exists right? But yeah that would suck if they closed out MAA1 I would be a bit upset actually especially all the stuff they've released ugh. Got V league this time around for this pre pvp season, I wasn't really grinding though oh well.

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Another PVP season to be over glad to have been A league too, and finally got Howard yesterday barely got him sheesh. Wonder when they're going to be releasing new content like an SO or a chapter.

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Peeps still playing this? Or am I the only one now.

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Peeps still playing this? Or am I the only one now.

Still playing, the PVE portions, anyway.

I make halfhearted attempts at PvP, but that experience has become so frustrating that I usually give up about halfway through the season. When single PvP fights are taking 15-20 minutes due to endless protect/buff/heal cycles, I just don't have time for that. Especially when it's at best a 5 point gain for a win and at minimum a 15 point loss for a loss (usually closer to 20).

I think the addition of level 15 really hurt me. I'm still struggling to get all my guys caught up (not for lack of experience, but for lack of SHIELD Points), and yet it seems like virtually everyone I fight has already maxed out every character (and has a full set of max-level PvP items). But up until that addition I was generally scoring Adamantium every PvP season. Now I'm lucky if I can squeak into Vibranium.

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Soooo, perfect example of the PvP frustrations?

Having your entire team wipe on the FIRST ACTION OF THE COMBAT because the Rocket Racoon/Spider-Man Noir "join in on someone's attack" triggers EVERY TIME OFF OF EVERY ATTACK, INCLUDING EACH OTHERS "JOIN-IN" ATTACKS.

I just watched that team get 18 ATTACKS IN A ROW OFF OF THE FIRST ATTACK IN THE COMBAT.

So yeah...and people wonder why AA is slowly dying?

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Soooo, perfect example of the PvP frustrations?

Having your entire team wipe on the FIRST ACTION OF THE COMBAT because the Rocket Racoon/Spider-Man Noir "join in on someone's attack" triggers EVERY TIME OFF OF EVERY ATTACK, INCLUDING EACH OTHERS "JOIN-IN" ATTACKS.

I just watched that team get 18 ATTACKS IN A ROW OFF OF THE FIRST ATTACK IN THE COMBAT.

So yeah...and people wonder why AA is slowly dying?

5 attacks. Five losses. In two of them I never even got to attack. This time because they either reality hacked or made my characters cower 9 - 11 TIMES IN A ROW. (Don't you just love how wins generally net you 5-10 points less than you lose for any loss?)

And this was after losing 137 points overnight. Add another 73 for my losses on attacks this morning and I'm wondering how the hell anyone can play this PvP shit and not realize it's completely broken (Particularly Spider-Woman's "worthy" costume)?

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Soooo, perfect example of the PvP frustrations?

Having your entire team wipe on the FIRST ACTION OF THE COMBAT because the Rocket Racoon/Spider-Man Noir "join in on someone's attack" triggers EVERY TIME OFF OF EVERY ATTACK, INCLUDING EACH OTHERS "JOIN-IN" ATTACKS.

I just watched that team get 18 ATTACKS IN A ROW OFF OF THE FIRST ATTACK IN THE COMBAT.

So yeah...and people wonder why AA is slowly dying?

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5 attacks. Five losses. In two of them I never even got to attack. This time because they either reality hacked or made my characters cower 9 - 11 TIMES IN A ROW. (Don't you just love how wins generally net you 5-10 points less than you lose for any loss?)

And this was after losing 137 points overnight. Add another 73 for my losses on attacks this morning and I'm wondering how the hell anyone can play this PvP shit and not realize it's completely broken (Particularly Spider-Woman's "worthy" costume)?

Ouch that sucks..I feel ya, I'm still able to hang in A league though even with the crap that is going on, although I think they just nerfed SW worthy costume cause the stone breaker doesn't do that one attack after being hit by it. Which is about time! And yeah that RR/Noir combo can be a killer. I was losing to a bunch of Spitfire/Starlord combo as well last 2 times in a row, that frustrated me. But I'm probably not getting as frustrated as you. Also agree the fights do take a long time to do sometimes now. Almost to the point where it's just better to abort. But if you're able to always stay in V league then that's ok cause you can always recruit the hero later. If you need Shield Points feel free to request them probably best way to stock up. I take it you collect every day too right, your ally tabs. My bad for responding so slow, this thread got buried lately.

I will say I love running the RR/Noir team together in PVE cause it goes so fast!

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Ouch that sucks..I feel ya, I'm still able to hang in A league though even with the crap that is going on, although I think they just nerfed SW worthy costume cause the stone breaker doesn't do that one attack after being hit by it. Which is about time! And yeah that RR/Noir combo can be a killer. I was losing to a bunch of Spitfire/Starlord combo as well last 2 times in a row, that frustrated me. But I'm probably not getting as frustrated as you. Also agree the fights do take a long time to do sometimes now. Almost to the point where it's just better to abort. But if you're able to always stay in V league then that's ok cause you can always recruit the hero later. If you need Shield Points feel free to request them probably best way to stock up. I take it you collect every day too right, your ally tabs. My bad for responding so slow, this thread got buried lately.

I will say I love running the RR/Noir team together in PVE cause it goes so fast!

Yeah, I managed to find a counter for the Noir/Union Jack/Rocket Racoon combo(s). Basically make sure you have a combo-breaker weapon.

Not sure what's up with Worthy Spider-Woman...I think the Stonebreaker doesn't detonate on counters, but does when she uses it as a normal attack. Or something. I just know it doesn't detonate all the time, but it does still detonate. I still tend to think she's broken, though. The damage reduction from the Rune of Fear (not even counting the possible cowers) is crazy.

Not sure when Phoenix Five Colossus became one of the most popular PvP characters but I see him a lot now, (often paired with Kuurth). If you can't find a way to remove or prevent it, the Rune of Fear + "Covered" + Guardian Force combination basically means you do virtually NO damage (and then they heal...and Colossus usually has the "Super Bruiser" ISO-8 on him) and at the very least you're in for a loooong fight. If not dying due to rune explosions.

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Yeah, I managed to find a counter for the Noir/Union Jack/Rocket Racoon combo(s). Basically make sure you have a combo-breaker weapon.

Not sure what's up with Worthy Spider-Woman...I think the Stonebreaker doesn't detonate on counters, but does when she uses it as a normal attack. Or something. I just know it doesn't detonate all the time, but it does still detonate. I still tend to think she's broken, though. The damage reduction from the Rune of Fear (not even counting the possible cowers) is crazy.

Not sure when Phoenix Five Colossus became one of the most popular PvP characters but I see him a lot now, (often paired with Kuurth). If you can't find a way to remove or prevent it, the Rune of Fear + "Covered" + Guardian Force combination basically means you do virtually NO damage (and then they heal...and Colossus usually has the "Super Bruiser" ISO-8 on him) and at the very least you're in for a loooong fight. If not dying due to rune explosions.

I think Colossus became popular again because of the E Iso that you could win for the Bruiser, so when people throw that on him makes him even more powerful as well as his A-iso that covers everyone giving them 50% damage reduction. I'm farming that A Iso currently but yeah all of a sudden he became popular and so did Emma, but since they nerfed her she's not as use able which is a good thing. I use Bruiser IF with his combo break which does help a lot without him I would be stuck in a rut probably. And agreed the Kurth pairing is insane, heck I use her and Nul on defense too and she is still too OP sometimes...You're right I didn't realize the detonation doesn't work on the counters...but yeah I should be able to finish in A league when PVP is over which is very soon! They need to release another general hero, it was surprising when they released 2 practically when the year was over...

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I think Colossus became popular again because of the E Iso that you could win for the Bruiser, so when people throw that on him makes him even more powerful as well as his A-iso that covers everyone giving them 50% damage reduction. I'm farming that A Iso currently but yeah all of a sudden he became popular and so did Emma, but since they nerfed her she's not as use able which is a good thing. I use Bruiser IF with his combo break which does help a lot without him I would be stuck in a rut probably. And agreed the Kurth pairing is insane, heck I use her and Nul on defense too and she is still too OP sometimes...You're right I didn't realize the detonation doesn't work on the counters...but yeah I should be able to finish in A league when PVP is over which is very soon! They need to release another general hero, it was surprising when they released 2 practically when the year was over...

How did they nerf Emma? She's nasty if she has the Super Infiltrator ISO, hitting you with Mental Anguish before you attack. (I also really hope they give some kind of second-chance for those ISOs. I only managed to get the Bruiser, though that's probably the best one...Infiltrator #2, Scrapper #3 and Tactician and Blaster seem to have kinda gotten the short end of the stick on those).

I think the Runes need to be downgraded a bit. Or at the very least the damage that the fear rune does when it detonates should be throttled back. I'm not opposed to "one shot kills" that require a couple rounds of debuffs or buffs to set up, but "apply a single (group) debuff one round and likely kill a character instantly in the second round" is a bit much IMO.

I obviously need to change my defensive team, too. Four or five losses for every win isn't helping my standings much, though yeah, I know Defense rarely makes points unless you're not bothering to advance tiers.

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How did they nerf Emma? She's nasty if she has the Super Infiltrator ISO, hitting you with Mental Anguish before you attack. (I also really hope they give some kind of second-chance for those ISOs. I only managed to get the Bruiser, though that's probably the best one...Infiltrator #2, Scrapper #3 and Tactician and Blaster seem to have kinda gotten the short end of the stick on those).

I think the Runes need to be downgraded a bit. Or at the very least the damage that the fear rune does when it detonates should be throttled back. I'm not opposed to "one shot kills" that require a couple rounds of debuffs or buffs to set up, but "apply a single (group) debuff one round and likely kill a character instantly in the second round" is a bit much IMO.

I obviously need to change my defensive team, too. Four or five losses for every win isn't helping my standings much, though yeah, I know Defense rarely makes points unless you're not bothering to advance tiers.

Her mental anguish once triggered takes less health now which is good. Used to take more then half your health off which was crazy. So she's not being used as much. I got the transcranial stimulator gun cause of her so it would counter it but it just made my IF combo break her kick move got to love PD's AI :P Also if you play enough offensively never count on your defense to help push you in a league. That's how I do, I just do plenty of fights to stay in my league...but if I didn't have the time to play then yeah def have a good defense to get you in. Here's the latest info. Will be nice to have a good break from PVP.

Go Inside Avengers Alliance: Season 2, Chapter 10 | News | Marvel.com

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Her mental anguish once triggered takes less health now which is good. Used to take more then half your health off which was crazy. So she's not being used as much. I got the transcranial stimulator gun cause of her so it would counter it but it just made my IF combo break her kick move got to love PD's AI :P Also if you play enough offensively never count on your defense to help push you in a league. That's how I do, I just do plenty of fights to stay in my league...but if I didn't have the time to play then yeah def have a good defense to get you in. Here's the latest info. Will be nice to have a good break from PVP.

Go Inside Avengers Alliance: Season 2, Chapter 10 | News | Marvel.com

Yeah...I spammed attacks all to heck on the weekends and it seemed like with a shift in my offensive team and loadout (and changed my defensive setup too) once I broke through 1600 or so it actually got a lot easier for a few days. Then in the last two days I was losing like 80 points every two or three hours.

But I woke up early this morning and did my five. That took me to about 1770.

I didn't get home from work until after the tourney was over. My final score? 1561...so I got Kraven. Barely. And wouldn't have gotten that if my defensive team hadn't won a few matches over the last 10 or so. Seriously...I lost like 270 points at my lowest ebb today. That's just nuts. I almost prefer the old "can't even get in fights on the last day because it's so laggy" system. :P

EDIT: Holy crap, Worthy Daimon Hellstrom sounds like he's gonna be a beast. And absolutely murderstomp those annoying Enchantress/Horseman Beast combos.

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Yeah...I spammed attacks all to heck on the weekends and it seemed like with a shift in my offensive team and loadout (and changed my defensive setup too) once I broke through 1600 or so it actually got a lot easier for a few days. Then in the last two days I was losing like 80 points every two or three hours.

But I woke up early this morning and did my five. That took me to about 1770.

I didn't get home from work until after the tourney was over. My final score? 1561...so I got Kraven. Barely. And wouldn't have gotten that if my defensive team hadn't won a few matches over the last 10 or so. Seriously...I lost like 270 points at my lowest ebb today. That's just nuts. I almost prefer the old "can't even get in fights on the last day because it's so laggy" system. :P

EDIT: Holy crap, Worthy Daimon Hellstrom sounds like he's gonna be a beast. And absolutely murderstomp those annoying Enchantress/Horseman Beast combos.

Yup and his alt suit is infiltrator should also help stop Nul/Kurth as well I'm thinking. Glad the PVP is over too, I can actually rest over the weekends haha. You ended better then me, last night I was at 1870 ended up at 1631 sheesh :P It's good that you won him! Let's see if I get Kraven maxed out until the next PVP hits...almost done maxing out Lizard.

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Aaaand Chapter 10 is out. This will probably be the first time I immediately jump on the new chapter and grind it out. Usually I end up waiting a few weeks/a couple months. But I really want that Hellstrom. He's gonna be horrible in conjunction with Kuurth, I think.

So is Skirn/She-Hulk the only Worthy that isn't anywhere from kinda to completely broken? I honestly think Nul is not as bad as some of the others now (though still powerful). Nerkkod is usually manageable, but if you don't manage to take her out quickly or load her with debuffs she'll start one-shotting guys. Kuurth we've already talked about being a huge PITA.

I'm really shuddering to see what Worthy Black Knight is like. That guy could already be an annoyance in his normal mode!

EDIT: You know, I find myself wondering if with the conclusion of Season 2, they release a piece of equipment/hammer/gear set that allows the Agent to become "Worthy" as well. Though I suppose it seems more likely that they'll do Season 3 and introduce "The Mighty" variations of all the characters that held that role in the comics (and the Agent would probably be better suited to that role than a Worthy).

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Aaaand Chapter 10 is out. This will probably be the first time I immediately jump on the new chapter and grind it out. Usually I end up waiting a few weeks/a couple months. But I really want that Hellstrom. He's gonna be horrible in conjunction with Kuurth, I think.

So is Skirn/She-Hulk the only Worthy that isn't anywhere from kinda to completely broken? I honestly think Nul is not as bad as some of the others now (though still powerful). Nerkkod is usually manageable, but if you don't manage to take her out quickly or load her with debuffs she'll start one-shotting guys. Kuurth we've already talked about being a huge PITA.

I'm really shuddering to see what Worthy Black Knight is like. That guy could already be an annoyance in his normal mode!

EDIT: You know, I find myself wondering if with the conclusion of Season 2, they release a piece of equipment/hammer/gear set that allows the Agent to become "Worthy" as well. Though I suppose it seems more likely that they'll do Season 3 and introduce "The Mighty" variations of all the characters that held that role in the comics (and the Agent would probably be better suited to that role than a Worthy).

BK with his E iso is a pain for sure, and it's even more of a pain trying to farm it. I gave up on it but I might try again since the level 15 can grant extra turn. But I agree he maybe more of a pain down the road. Also hopefully worthy's daimon will be the counter for kurth she is a pain cause of her cowering effect, nul still a pain in my book cause of his meteor...and yes Skirn and nekroid aren't push overs usually. Glad they finally released a new chapter, now when do we get a new general hero? And the fact that they mentioned mutants in mission 2, so let's get a new mutant already!

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BK with his E iso is a pain for sure, and it's even more of a pain trying to farm it. I gave up on it but I might try again since the level 15 can grant extra turn. But I agree he maybe more of a pain down the road. Also hopefully worthy's daimon will be the counter for kurth she is a pain cause of her cowering effect, nul still a pain in my book cause of his meteor...and yes Skirn and nekroid aren't push overs usually. Glad they finally released a new chapter, now when do we get a new general hero? And the fact that they mentioned mutants in mission 2, so let's get a new mutant already!

Is Kuurth's Fear effect magic? Because yeah, that would be awesome if he counters that.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Sunspot as a general hero before long. He's gotten a lot of spotlight in recent Avengers' books.

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Unlocked Angrir, though haven't had the chance to use him yet. Also spent the gold to get Hellstrom's new E-ISO which is really nice (immune to opportunist debuffs).

Actually did really well on heroic and boss fights on my two playthroughs of each mission:

Managed to get:
E-ISOs: Hercules, Chase Stein, Victor La Mancha

A-ISOs: Storm, Sunfire

Weapons: White Light Ring, at least two others I don't recall (One from Maximus and one from Ultron, I believe.

Some of the E-ISOs look like they might be really good (Blade's, Black Bolt's, and maybe Magneto's).

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Is Kuurth's Fear effect magic? Because yeah, that would be awesome if he counters that.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Sunspot as a general hero before long. He's gotten a lot of spotlight in recent Avengers' books.

Sunspot's a mutant though and the last real mutant they released was Cannonball, unless you count Molly I guess, but any hero would be nice. Have so much CP's right now...

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Unlocked Angrir, though haven't had the chance to use him yet. Also spent the gold to get Hellstrom's new E-ISO which is really nice (immune to opportunist debuffs).

Actually did really well on heroic and boss fights on my two playthroughs of each mission:

Managed to get:
E-ISOs: Hercules, Chase Stein, Victor La Mancha

A-ISOs: Storm, Sunfire

Weapons: White Light Ring, at least two others I don't recall (One from Maximus and one from Ultron, I believe.

Some of the E-ISOs look like they might be really good (Blade's, Black Bolt's, and maybe Magneto's).

Dang you're way ahead of me :P I haven't gotten a single weapon drop from this chapter and the only iso I got was Shadowcat's E Iso...but it does seem like there's a lot of good iso's in this chapter. I may end up farming for them going from this chapter then back.

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Sunspot's a mutant though and the last real mutant they released was Cannonball, unless you count Molly I guess, but any hero would be nice. Have so much CP's right now...
Dang you're way ahead of me :P I haven't gotten a single weapon drop from this chapter and the only iso I got was Shadowcat's E Iso...but it does seem like there's a lot of good iso's in this chapter. I may end up farming for them going from this chapter then back.

Yeah, I had really good luck this go-round, but I actually have to go back through earlier chapters and farm some of the A and E ISOs that I don't have, after having seen some of them in action and or found certain fights really hard without them (Colossus, Beta Ray Bill, Hercules, and I'd like to get Magneto's first E-ISO, too).

On a side note: I'm reaaaaly curious as to how the White Light ring works in regards to subtle abilities. Because if those don't trigger it...White Light Ring + Fixer + Winter Soldier may have just become a virtually unbeatable team (unless you get really unlucky on turn order).

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Yeah, I had really good luck this go-round, but I actually have to go back through earlier chapters and farm some of the A and E ISOs that I don't have, after having seen some of them in action and or found certain fights really hard without them (Colossus, Beta Ray Bill, Hercules, and I'd like to get Magneto's first E-ISO, too).

On a side note: I'm reaaaaly curious as to how the White Light ring works in regards to subtle abilities. Because if those don't trigger it...White Light Ring + Fixer + Winter Soldier may have just become a virtually unbeatable team (unless you get really unlucky on turn order).

Just farmed the Colossus A-Iso got it right before Chapter 10 dropped, but yeah I'll be farming for a long while for these latest iso's glad I have tons of energy. Sucks that no break from PVP for the weekend ugh. Will be farming for those other Iso's you mentioned as well. I do have Magneto's E Iso it's not bad.

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This PVP is definitely going to be Fing frustrating, Kurth is more annoying then usual.

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Ugh Angrir is just as bad now going up sigh...so frustrating going against wallet warriors, I feel like I'm going up against more of them.

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Yeah, I'm running into a constant stream of Angrir/Kuurth now. I usually win the fights but it takes fooooooorever.

The new ISO's aren't making things any easier.