[Joe Moore]

Friday the 13th Part 6 Ultimate Jason Voorhees - Toyark Photo Shoot

[En Sabah Nerd]

Great gallery as usual Joe

I got this guy for Christmas and I freaking love having it. I'm not even a big Friday the 13th fan but I figured I needed a Jason in my collection and this was so the way to go. I will say that it was a pain to get him to hold the fence post the first time I was trying as his tighter grabbing hands were almost too tight to even get the halves through. I had a much easier time by just switching to his machete hand on the right which has the more open grip and can actually still hold the knife pretty well too. I just display him wielding the machete since it is the more iconic choice and (I think this is just on mine) the two post halves don't exactly match colors so it looks kinda off in long term display. I feel like Jason shouldn't be as tall as they made him, I mean it works since he's a supernatural zombie and all but if looked at as literal accuracy (actor heights) I think Leatherface should technically be taller but I'm not entirely sure.

[ATF]

I have a few complaints about this figure. My joints were extremely loose right out of package, especially the head. It just wobbles around and seems to be defective. I love this film and look of Jason but was disappointed with the quality of the figure. Maybe I should try and return it.

[Joe Moore]

Perhaps return if you can. My neck joint wasn't bad. Some of the joints were a little too tight until I moved them a bit. Seemed about normal.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Joe Moore

Perhaps return if you can. My neck joint wasn't bad. Some of the joints were a little too tight until I moved them a bit. Seemed about normal.

I think every single NECA figure I've got that has ball-hinge elbows had them stuck from paint or whatever when I first opened them but it's never been a source of grief. My Jason's hips and waist are actually kinda loose but since it doesn't affect his ability to stand I literally can't complain.

[Dolemite]

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Originally Posted by ATF

I have a few complaints about this figure. My joints were extremely loose right out of package, especially the head. It just wobbles around and seems to be defective. I love this film and look of Jason but was disappointed with the quality of the figure. Maybe I should try and return it.

I love this figure to death, but I have some issues with looseness in the joints as well. The hips and waist joint on my figure were very loose. I exchanged the figure for another one and that figure had the exact same issue- wobbly waist and hips. He's still able to stand fine on his own, & I can get him into good poses nonetheless, but it's still a little annoying. Clearly, this is a ongoing quality control issue.

Otherwise, the figure is amazing. I really hope NECA does a Part 7 Jason in the ultimate style as well...without loose joints, of course.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

I love this figure to death, but I have some issues with looseness in the joints as well. The hips and waist joint on my figure were very loose. I exchanged the figure for another one and that figure had the exact same issue- wobbly waist and hips. He's still able to stand fine on his own, & I can get him into good poses nonetheless, but it's still a little annoying. Clearly, this is a ongoing quality control issue.

Otherwise, the figure is amazing. I really hope NECA does a Part 7 Jason in the ultimate style as well...without loose joints, of course.

Yep, same deal with the hips and waist on mine but it's not an actual problem.

A part VII figure would be cool just to get more Jason figures out there but I was never too partial to him looking THAT decayed with like the entire rib cage revealed. I think part VI really does offer an ideal zombie Jason where he's rotting and nasty but still very whole anyway. I'd like NECA to do a new Freddy figure based on dream warriors since it established his more iconic look. I prefer the first film and love the ultimate Freddy but I just feel wrong deep down having first movie Freddy fighting the more established Jason look.

[Dolemite]

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Yep, same deal with the hips and waist on mine but it's not an actual problem.

A part VII figure would be cool just to get more Jason figures out there but I was never too partial to him looking THAT decayed with like the entire rib cage revealed. I think part VI really does offer an ideal zombie Jason where he's rotting and nasty but still very whole anyway. I'd like NECA to do a new Freddy figure based on dream warriors since it established his more iconic look. I prefer the first film and love the ultimate Freddy but I just feel wrong deep down having first movie Freddy fighting the more established Jason look.

It's always been a toss up between part 6 and part 7 as far as my favorite Jason look goes. I think part 6 serves the best as the stereotypical, traditional Jason look goes. However, I really do love the rotting Jason of part 7 with his exposed spine and all. Its just a very creepy, savage look. Ideally, I'd love to have both as ultimate figures.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

I'd love to have both as ultimate figures.

We're half way there

[Dolemite]

Indeed.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

I feel like Jason shouldn't be as tall as they made him, I mean it works since he's a supernatural zombie and all but if looked at as literal accuracy (actor heights) I think Leatherface should technically be taller but I'm not entirely sure.

Just to answer your question about Jason's height in comparison to Leatherface (you baited me into this discussion didn't you?) Up until Freddy Vs Jason and the Reboot, Jason's height has generally been depicted as being between 6'3" and 6'5", as Richard Brooker (6'3"), Ted White (6'4"), and Kane Hodder (6'3") were all very close in height, and each actor wore risers in their shoes to give them an inch or two.

The tallest Jasons are a tie between CJ Graham (Part 6), Ken Kirzinger (FvJ) and Derek Mears (Reboot) who were each at 6'5". Kirzinger was the tallest on screen of the bunch, as he wore 4 inch risers in his boots to tower over Freddy and to boost his Jason's height to about 6'9", while Mears also wore risers, although much shorter so the actor could retain the speed and agility the director wanted for the rebooted Jason (about 2 to 3 inches, putting him at roughly 6'7".) CJ Graham wore flat sole boots in part 6, giving him only a slight height push, putting him at about 6'6"ish. Since three actors checked in at nearly 6'3" (including Hodder, who played Jason more than anyone else,) I'd say that would be the height to go with.

Fun fact about Derek Mears...he also played the "classic" Predator in the movie Predators...

Gunnar Hansen and Andrew Byniarski are both 6'5", which depending on what types of shoes they wore, puts Leatherface at about 6'6"ish, matching them up fairly close. Dan Yeager, who played Leatherface in Texas Chainsaw 3D was 6'6", but like in the case of Jason, since Hansen and Byniarski have played the role more than any other actor, 6'6" would be what I would say Leatherface's height should be.

So, if we were doing averages of the character throughout all of their films, Leatherface should be taller by about at least 3 to 4 inches. However, since the figure is based off of CJ Graham's performance in part 6, Jason would only be about an inch shorter, if not dead even to Gunnar's Leatherface...

[Trivial Psychic]

Oops...in researching my last post, I forgot to actually include my thoughts to the figure.

It looks good, and while I haven't got mine just yet as they are sitting in my BBTS pile of loot which still needs to be shipped, I do have some minor gripes. The skin on Jason's head is a bit too dark, as it should be a little bit more gray and lighter in flesh tone. The green wash on it is also a bit off putting. I might end up doing some repainting on mine when I get it to fix it up a bit.

A more glaring issue though, as someone who has researched this costume to death and has cosplayed it, I can tell you for a fact that the machete sheath is facing the wrong direction on his belt. (And yes, I'm aware that the own sheathe on my costume in the picture below is inaccurate to the movie, but finding a hard leather, Korean War/Vietnam era sheath in black that I can fit a foam machete into has proven to be impossible for me...) Unless Jason is a southpaw (here's a hint...he's not,) he would be attacking his victims with the dull side of the machete if he were to try and unsheathe it with his right hand. It's not a deal breaker...but for NECA to miss a detail like that is shocking to me, especially because this is the second time that they have done this...it was like that on the Retro Jason Lives figure as well.

I'm also disappointed that the figure comes with two closed fisted gripping hands for various weapons, where I feel an open, more relaxed pair of hands would have better served him, which would have allowed him to take on some poses from various kill scenes in the movie (such as when he grabs Sissy from outside the cabin window, or strangles Tommy under water in the film's climax.) Including another hand to simply hold the knife seems like a wasted part.

It would have also been nice if they would have included either Sissy's head or the paintball player's arm, but I have similar accessories from the Mezco Jasons that I'll be most likely using with this figure when I finally get him displayed. Despite these flaws though, I'm happy we finally got a PLAYABLE version of this Jason from NECA, that diorama backdrop for the packaging is bad ass, and like Jason under the calm waters of Crystal Lake, I feel like my soul can rest a bit...

Casey tested...Jason approved!

[Straker]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Oops...in researching my last post, I forgot to actually include my thoughts to the figure.

It looks good, and while I haven't got mine just yet as they are sitting in my BBTS pile of loot which still needs to be shipped, I do have some minor gripes. The skin on Jason's head is a bit too dark, as it should be a little bit more gray and lighter in flesh tone. The green wash on it is also a bit off putting. I might end up doing some repainting on mine when I get it to fix it up a bit.

A more glaring issue though, as someone who has researched this costume to death and has cosplayed it, I can tell you for a fact that the machete sheath is facing the wrong direction on his belt. (And yes, I'm aware that the own sheathe on my costume in the picture below is inaccurate to the movie, but finding a hard leather, Korean War/Vietnam era sheath in black that I can fit a foam machete into has proven to be impossible for me...) Unless Jason is a southpaw (here's a hint...he's not,) he would be attacking his victims with the dull side of the machete if he were to try and unsheathe it with his right hand. It's not a deal breaker...but for NECA to miss a detail like that is shocking to me, especially because this is the second time that they have done this...it was like that on the Retro Jason Lives figure as well.

I'm also disappointed that the figure comes with two closed fisted gripping hands for various weapons, where I feel an open, more relaxed pair of hands would have better served him, which would have allowed him to take on some poses from various kill scenes in the movie (such as when he grabs Sissy from outside the cabin window, or strangles Tommy under water in the film's climax.) Including another hand to simply hold the knife seems like a wasted part.

It would have also been nice if they would have included either Sissy's head or the paintball player's arm, but I have similar accessories from the Mezco Jasons that I'll be most likely using with this figure when I finally get him displayed. Despite these flaws though, I'm happy we finally got a PLAYABLE version of this Jason from NECA, that diorama backdrop for the packaging is bad ass, and like Jason under the calm waters of Crystal Lake, I feel like my soul can rest a bit...

Casey tested...Jason approved!

Yeah I gotta agree on some points. This figure came with two right hands, one for the machete and one for the pole and knife, and thing is the machete holding hand does a great job pulling double and even triple duty holding the knife and pole as well. I really wish NECA tooled up an open left hand for the swap out hand as that would have looked better than the "not-entirely-closed-fist" on the left hand.

Additionally, I really wish they had retooled the hip and waist joints system. On this figure they are still using the older style of two mushroom peg joints and a waist joint sandwiched between two hard plastic shell pieces that are glued together. It's just hard plastic on hard plastic and results in loose hips. The Predator figures suffer from this issue which causes loose hips so the legs swing easily forward and back and causes instability issues. Sure, NECA tightened up the tolerances on those here and there, but not on Jason. I really wish they would use their newer design which sees hard plastic plugging into softer rubber plastics for better friction joints that are tighter. 89 Batman, the Reeve Superman, hell even Ultimate Freddy and Leatherface have this, so, why use the crappy old tooling on Jason? This shell issue actually resulted in one of these Jason's I got having that assembly come unglued in my hand, lol. Fell apart like a rotted corpse.

Last, the hockey mask eye holes are not open and yeah, it's accurate to the costume, but come on. It's just done for the movie or is it in the script somewhere where Tommy glued black screen to the inside of the eye holes? Personally, I'd have liked them to have been open to I could see Jason's eye. I will give them this though...that hard plastic mask is SO NICE. No more warping. MUCH better NECA!

Oh, there is ONE thing:

"A more glaring issue though, as someone who has researched this costume to death and has cosplayed it, I can tell you for a fact that the machete sheath is facing the wrong direction on his belt."

Actually...you didn't look hard enough. As someone that researched this in five minutes I can tell you that NECA did indeed have this machete hung correctly. It also doesn't look black.

Does Toys R Us carry these?

[En Sabah Nerd]

@Trivial: good numbers there. I kinda forgive the toy-height difference based on Leatherface hunching his shoulders while Jason is standing straight, overall it's not a real problem since they're both still bigger than the usual human figure.

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Does Toys R Us carry these?

They should, I know I've seen my store get every other ultimate figure and they also got the new CVG Jason plus they offer this one online so it should end up on shelves at some point unless your specific store doesn't get them for some reason.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Straker

Oh, there is ONE thing:

"A more glaring issue though, as someone who has researched this costume to death and has cosplayed it, I can tell you for a fact that the machete sheath is facing the wrong direction on his belt."

Actually...you didn't look hard enough. As someone that researched this in five minutes I can tell you that NECA did indeed have this machete hung correctly. It also doesn't look black.

Hmm...I never caught it from that angle.

So...what we have is a case of Holywood magic (and it doesn't surprise me...) In the scene where Jason first appears with his toolbelt to kill the 3 paintballers, he draws the machete from the sheath with his right hand (sharpened part of the blade facing downward and away from his body) with the curved part of the grip also facing downward. This would in turn mean that the sheath, which is shaped to fit the machete, should in fact be flipped like I stated previously. When Jason swings the machete, you can also see that the sheath dangles from side, and the top of it is not only dark in color and wide, but is oval and solid looking ridge at it's edge, giving the appearance of an older, military style, machete sheath. While I was unable to find a screencap that shows this, I was able to find a photo of CJ Graham taking a break on the set, in which you can clearly see the dark, sturdier looking machete sheath on his costume, which gives off a shadow at the it's entry point, giving the impression that it has solid shape and form.



It's possible that the sheath in that shot was a special one used for a prop machete of some sort, or one that had a gimmick for effects (since when Jason swings the machete, blood splatters all over the camera, signifying that it might have been rigged with a pump to shoot the blood out of.)

I can see what you're saying though. The sheath in your photo is military green in color, and has been flipped, judging by the fact that the handle grip is facing towards Jason's back, meaning the sharpened edge of the blade would be as well. I dug a little deeper, and I also noticed the flipped sheath on a promotional photo that CJ Graham took with Alice Cooper to promote the film's soundtrack.




I'm just gonna chalk it up to Hollywood magic and continuity errors from the film due to it being on a rushed shooting schedule, a low budget, and the heavy editing and reshooting that was forced upon it due to the MPAA refusing the give the film an "R" rating during multiple cuts. There was also two different stuntmen who played Jason in the film, with Dan Bradley being fired just one week into the shoot (he was replaced by CJ Graham, and ironically, was the Jason in the paintball scene) so it was also possible that the costume was altered to better fit Graham, who was taller and more lanky than Bradley. So I'll give NECA a pass on this one I guess, since they're not technically wrong, even if having the sheath on backwards makes no sense if you're right handed...lol. Fault the director and film editors on that one. Good catch.

[Dr Kain]

I'm a little confused here because if that is supposed to be Zombie Jason, he isn't right. His mask should have a slice through the upper left and his head should have a big scar across his face from when he fell onto his machete at the end of four.

That aside, he looks pretty awesome. Now they just need Michael.

[Riddick]

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Originally Posted by ATF

I have a few complaints about this figure. My joints were extremely loose right out of package, especially the head. It just wobbles around and seems to be defective. I love this film and look of Jason but was disappointed with the quality of the figure. Maybe I should try and return it.

The waist on mine was very loose, like very loose. I contacted Toys R Us via Live Chat and told them it was broken and they not only are sending me out a replacement but are also letting me keep the one I have. I mean it's not broken but it's easier saying that then explaining a waist joint.

Granted, I ordered mine from their site.

Other then that problem....wow this figure is fantastic!

I'm a huge Horror fan and Jason fan and this just happens to be my favorite version of Jason. It's just a shame I never got a Part IV Jason....because he's my second favorite version and I was never able to find one.

[Riddick]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I'm a little confused here because if that is supposed to be Zombie Jason, he isn't right. His mask should have a slice through the upper left and his head should have a big scar across his face from when he fell onto his machete at the end of four.

That aside, he looks pretty awesome. Now they just need Michael.

It does. His mask does have a cut in it and his face has a large gash where the machete from Part IV went into it. It's accurate.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Riddick

It does. His mask does have a cut in it and his face has a large gash where the machete from Part IV went into it. It's accurate.

Hmmm, maybe it's the lighting of the photos then because it doesn't look like it to me.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Hmmm, maybe it's the lighting of the photos then because it doesn't look like it to me.

That photo of Jason is from Part 7, which utilizes a completely different mask and make up for Jason.

Truthfully, we never get a clear shot of Jason's face in Part 6, because in the only scene he is maskless, it's incredibly dark, it's raining, and we are only really able to see it through the flashes of lightning that take place during the scene. Plus his face is covered in cobwebs. The gashes are there though. Below is a photo of one of the cowls used in the film, that were given to a close friend of one of the make-up artists on the film, Chris Swift, and only recently turned up in good condition after all these years.



On the figure itself, the gashes from Tommy's assault in Part 4 are there, but are a bit more subtle, and can be spotted in pictures 22 and 23 of the gallery.

[Dr Kain]

Oh, so this is specifically based only on the sixth movie? I didn't realize that since when I think of Jason's face, I think of that shot.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Oh, so this is specifically based only on the sixth movie? I didn't realize that since when I think of Jason's face, I think of that shot.

Yeah...like the Ultimate Freddy was based off of a particular movie, this version of Jason is specifically based off of his look from Friday 6. The "utility belt" is the dead give-a-way, as Jason Lives was the only film in which he wore it, having taken it off of one of his victims. Jason Lives was also the first Jason film in which he appeared as a zombie, which he has been in every film since outside of the reboot...

[Dolemite]

In case anyone was interested in picking up NECA's upcoming re-release of this figure, they just confirmed on Facebook that the loose hips/waist issue that the original run had has been fixed. Great news.

[Dolemite]

Okay, I picked up the Ultimate Part 6 Jason re-release and I can confirm that the loose hips/waist issue has been 100% fixed. The hips and waist are now nice and tight, zero issues whatsoever.

However, there are also some other small upgrades as well, mostly improvements with the paint apps. Overall, the figure looks better when side-by-side with the original release. Jason's skin has a nice sheen to it now that gives it a moist appearance, and his mask has a slight glossy coat and the blackened eyes are much better now (no gaps/edges visible). Also, the rivets on the mask's cheeks are painted now.

The blood on his shirt/pants is slightly darker/more pronounced and (again) some gloss is used to make the blood look wet. The straps on the hock and the machete sheath use a darker brown plastic than the original. And finally, the paint on Jason's face (especially the exposed bone and teeth) is more detailed and allows more of the sculpt underneath to appear (the original figure had globs of white paint over the teeth, obscuring them a bit).

If you don't own it, buy it. If you already have it, I would upgrade to this one.