[CLASSIFIED]

Yeah, but Batman is a lot more than just a utility belt these days.

In JL #1 he shoots rockets out of his gloves and blows up a helicopter.

And women... Batman/ and Bruce hook up with a different one in every issue. No lie, when I first noticed it I figured the new 52 Bats was some kind of man-whore or something.

And as far as business accumen is concerned, sure Wayne is the "mask", but underneath that "mask" he's still Batman.

Face it, Batman prepares for every contingency, and if he went up against IM he'd come out in some kind of robotic Bat-Armor or blast him with an EMP generator, or just mug Tony in his penthouse while he was sleeping.

[Tyjos Azari]

Bah Just try to get em both Drunk.....get em both in a bar and settle it that way.

-I wonder how long it'd take Bruce to get drunk.......Tony Stark, it's really easy lol-

That'd be a fun Drinking Contest to see...

[bmorr]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

And for all Bruce's formidable skills, he is still human. Bullet to the head and he drops, same as every other normal man. Of course, same thing sort of applies to Tony, though his suit's nanotech might be able to save him.

In the end, I think they would both have a much better time of taking over LexCorp and OsCorp together.

Oh and since this involves both DC and Marvel and it's not about toys, off to the General Discussion forum we go.

better hope its not a time bullet.

[CLASSIFIED]

Tony would win the drinking contest because he's an alchoholic.

[Tyjos Azari]

Well still you got to ask the question: Can Bruce Wayne get stoned drunk like Tony Stark?

That'd be interesting to see.

[Iron Man]

...Please. I vote Bruce.


JK, Tony all the way.

[Fortune]

Batman is either the first or second smartest man in all DC. He has this one.

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

And the new armor is inside of him (somehow- Pym Particles?)!

Extremis Nanotechnology, not Pym Particles.

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Originally Posted by Fortune

Batman is either the first or second smartest man in all DC. He has this one.

To be fair, that's not saying much. How many characters are known for their unparalleled, genius-level IQ in the DCU versus the MU? Sure,most of the heroes and villains on both sides are intelligent, but few are at Tony's level.

I mean, the man literally invented a new element. Sure, his dad may have had the idea, but Tony is the one who actually pulled it off.

[Jason Abbadon]

Tony can outsmart Reed on tactics and Reed makes Bruce ride the short bus.

Really Bruce is fun to a limit- he's the ultimate "Mary Sue" charcater that writers have constantly changed to be able to do not only a little of everything (the original premise of the charcater but now can do anything better than anyone.

In Marvel, (as in life) charcaters specialize and master a field while still being capable in other fields.

In this matchup, it all depends on how they encounter each other- if it's a "never seen each other before" thing where universes collide, I'd go with Tony- DC's armored guys are total losers and Bruce would underestimate Tony.
Just Tony's sonic screamer to "humnely" take down a target would nail Bruce.

But if it's Bruce having a huge profile on Tony...it'd be nasty.

If they both had a profile on ecah other...it'd be super nasty!

[CLASSIFIED]

I think as a character, Bruce is way more prepared than Tony.

By that I mean, he think of everything.

Tony's sonic screamer wouldn't even come close to taking him down. And if Tony got lucky and it did; then watch what happens when Bruce gets up.

[Greenskar]

As someone who is in the real life industry of what we are discussing fictionally...

Tony stark wins the contract on a system level

Wayne manages to negotiate the sub-contract in spite of losing the bigger deal.

When it comes to defense I'll take Stark Industries.

As for Lex Corp and Oscorp...they most likely fall into the category of being a NFD (non-franchised distributor) due to their reputations for having their own hidden agendas with their business and straying from contract requirements. They will be looked at as second source with high risk at most.


Also... the OP specifically asked who wins this business opportunity, not who wins in physical combat.

[Tiberius]

Tony Stark still wins this one for me. After doing some reading up to refresh me on both characters, Tonys Iron Man armour would fly circles around Bats. Remember, Tony is a futurist, there is a good chance he would know this would be coming up and be prepared for it. Be an amazing match!

[CLASSIFIED]

I'm not so sure Greenskar.

Stark never came up with something as impressive as Brother Eye in terms of its capacity to defend.

[Greenskar]

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I'm not so sure Greenskar.

Stark never came up with something as impressive as Brother Eye in terms of its capacity to defend.

You mean it's capacity to be controlled by Maxwell Lord and Lex Luthor?

Sounds to me like Wayne has poor security measures associated with his products. No thanks.

[Optimus Vader]

Who would win what? Who would win in a fight? Are they in their superhero gear for the fight, or just bare-knuckling up? Or is it "who would be the one who got the winning bid on a contract/job?"

If they're fighting with their suits/gear, I don't see how Tony doesn't blow Bruce up in about two seconds, but if it's just dude vs. dude without their suits, then Bruce would win in about two seconds.

If this is a financial battle of some kind,.. flip a coin. If this is a battle of intellect, or battle of brains to "earn" a contract, then I don't see Morgan Freeman out-inventing Tony. If he could, he would've invented Ironman's suit for Batman to use instead of giving him spelunking gear and a car that can jump over broken bridges.

[CLASSIFIED]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Tony Stark still wins this one for me. After doing some reading up to refresh me on both characters, Tonys Iron Man armour would fly circles around Bats. Remember, Tony is a futurist, there is a good chance he would know this would be coming up and be prepared for it. Be an amazing match!

Tony's armor would only fly circles around Bruce if he allowed it to get off the ground.

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You mean it's capacity to be controlled by Maxwell Lord and Lex Luthor?

Sounds to me like Wayne has poor security measures associated with his products. No thanks.

A very good point I wish you hadn't brought up.

That said, Bats would sneak into Tony's penthouse while he slept and terrorize him into backing out of the negotiations.

[Greenskar]

Here's a list of Tony Stark's "fictional" track record with D.O.D.

starkinventions

That's a good damn record. I'm sure he has among the best cost models associated with his products as well...which makes a big difference in winning a bid.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

I'm not so sure Greenskar.

Stark never came up with something as impressive as Brother Eye in terms of its capacity to defend.

Well, Brother Eye was a huge failure there- Maxwell Lord defeated Bruce's security and stole it easily.
Bruce was indirectly responsible for a few thousand people getting killed/converted into OMACs.

Stark has made plenty of amazing Brother Eye-level things- the giant fleet-killer War Machine satelite that took down most of the Skrull invasion force or the Gamma ray absorbing satelites that depowered the Hulk.

As with Bruce, if he's got the info, Tony can prepare and lay incrdible defenses....and now he's made those jacked up weapons to fight the Serpent and his Worthy.

[CLASSIFIED]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Well, Brother Eye was a huge failure there- Maxwell Lord defeated Bruce's security and stole it easily.
Bruce was indirectly responsible for a few thousand people getting killed/converted into OMACs.

Stark has made plenty of amazing Brother Eye-level things- the giant fleet-killer War Machine satelite that took down most of the Skrull invasion force or the Gamma ray absorbing satelites that depowered the Hulk.

As with Bruce, if he's got the info, Tony can prepare and lay incrdible defenses....and now he's made those jacked up weapons to fight the Serpent and his Worthy.

Yeah, but Batman killed Darkseid.

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Well, Brother Eye was a huge failure there- Maxwell Lord defeated Bruce's security and stole it easily.
Bruce was indirectly responsible for a few thousand people getting killed/converted into OMACs.

Stark has made plenty of amazing Brother Eye-level things- the giant fleet-killer War Machine satelite that took down most of the Skrull invasion force or the Gamma ray absorbing satelites that depowered the Hulk.

As with Bruce, if he's got the info, Tony can prepare and lay incrdible defenses....and now he's made those jacked up weapons to fight the Serpent and his Worthy.

Thank you for adding the detail to my earlier point in response to Classified.

I recognize Bruce's ability as an inventor/champion of industry, however, one should also consider the inherent liability associated with such inventions/products.

This poll was purely associated with business aspects of each character. Not who would emerge victorious in battle.

Tony Stark is the superior business man in this. Let us not forget he was also a former u.s. Secretary of defense.

[CLASSIFIED]

Yeah, but Tony Stark is an alcholic and totally unrelieble.

Not only that, but the business climate in the DC universe is way more cut throat...

You've got Lexcorp, Queen Industries, Kord Industries, Stagg Industries, as well as others to contend with.

And who is Stark competing against? Osbourn and Hammer, two known criminals?

Of course he comes across as good when there is no competition.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

Yeah, but Tony Stark is an alcholic and totally unrelieble.

Not only that, but the business climate in the DC universe is way more cut throat...

You've got Lexcorp, Queen Industries, Kord Industries, Stagg Industries, as well as others to contend with.

And who is Stark competing against? Osbourn and Hammer, two known criminals?

Of course he comes across as good when there is no competition.

Maybe there is no competition because Stark is so damn good, that Oscorp is even lucky to exist? I wouldn't put it past Stark to buy out almost any "threatening" company to make his own.

[omega145]

Here's proof of something, just dont know what yet.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

Here's a list of Tony Stark's "fictional" track record with D.O.D.

starkinventions

That's a good damn record. I'm sure he has among the best cost models associated with his products as well...which makes a big difference in winning a bid.

Except for one problem. He doesn't make weapons anymore. Only defensive measures that can't be used for offensive aggressive acts. That's Tony's current mantra. His Stark weapons can also be dismantled easily with a killswitch that he has designed into them for when they get out of hand. Something bruce could easily take advantage of.

Wayne wins based on that alone, and yes he is the better business man all around when you compare their companies. Tony is a tad arrogant with his futurist views, Bruce is more of a realist and adapts faster to incoming data while tony needs time to think to create a solution. On the batman ironman front, Ironman tries the screamer attack, bruce turns on sound dampeners in his belt from previous villians that have had similiar powers, or similiar heroes that he has preperations for if they went rogue. While tony would need to create a new device to deal with bruce, bruce would just adapt to what he had on hand to any occasion.

Intelligence isn't always who can create the best new thing, but how you can apply what you do have. Short of the full on armory going after bats, tony doesn't stand a chance, and even with that, batman probably has a signal jammer that'd work with modulation to stop them. Same as he would probably be able to get a computer virus into starks system, possibly even a variation of the same polymorphic one that took down brother eye.

[Tiberius]

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Here's proof of something, just dont know what yet.

You seem very torn between the two :P