[Iceman]

I just got back from seeing it so I'm on a bit of high but I loved this movie. A lot of it wasn't at all what I expected but I feel that is probably a good thing as it wasn't entirely predictable. I do wonder where there are going after this. Even though Nolan and Bale don't want to do another movie but you know that Warner Bros. won't let it be. Will they roll with a new Batman or a new Bruce Wayne?

One of the problems I had was with Bruce Wayne losing all his money. Wouldn't it have been SUPER obvious that it was Bane and his crew? I mean, there should have been some investigation first. It wasn't really needed as a plot device anyway since they just stole what they wanted from his armory. I guess the only purpose was to locate the reactor?

[DogFashionDisco]

I didn't like Marion Cotillard's acting AT ALL in her final scene, it was almost comical. I also thought the scene where Bruce contacts Jim was off, I mean, he had a face mask on but you could obviously see that hideous mole that Christian Bale has by his eye. If Jim doesn't believe in "coincidences", it is pretty weird that he would have missed that. Anyway, besides a few more hiccups, this was a phenomenal film.

[Greenskar]

Great movie! While I thought the fight choreography was horrendous (seriously some of the attackers sucked at their job) the story was wonderful. The way the events of the first two movies were woven in was awesome to me. I love the ambiguity of the ending.

All in all I found myself judging this movie much the same way I did "LotR: Return of The King" in the sense that rather than just critique this as a stand alone film (which is also good), I found its true strength as being the finale to the larger story that is this epic trilogy. I watched this movie and felt like I had just seen Ra's al Guhl and his followers storm Wayne Manor or Harvey Dent get broken by the Joker or Batman chased into hiding before Bane's siege of Gotham (hey its in the trailers). I somehow felt like i was watching the entire story unfold on screen instead of just the 3rd movie in the trilogy, not sure if that makes sense, but it was very amazing to me.

What a great end to one of the best movie trilogies of all time.

[ashketch]

The biggest thing I couldn't get over is if bane let all the criminals out that were locked up by the dent act, where is joker? In my experience with batman, if joker was released he would have taken over in a matter of days. The movie was great but there are a lot of holes

[Torn Prince]

Keep in mind Nolan's movies are based in realism, and in the real world if a man like The Joker existed and perpetrated the crimes he did, they would execute him, which is exactly what I think happened.

[LORD MARVEL]

didnt like the first hour too much blah..I did like Banes voice in the movie though.

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Torn Prince

Keep in mind Nolan's movies are based in realism, and in the real world if a man like The Joker existed and perpetrated the crimes he did, they would execute him, which is exactly what I think happened.

Yes because in real life you can, Spoiler: fix a broken back by just punching in a protruding vertebrae without any adverse damage to the nerves in that spinal column.

Nolan gives the movies a sense of realism. This is not to be confused with actually real. There is so much that is completely unrealistic about the Batman movies. But that's one of the reasons I enjoy it, I mean it is based on a comic book character after all.

While there were definitely some plot holes, such as how the hero made it back to Gotham when it was supposed to be on lock down and he was just who knows where and on what continent and also broke, Its the ambiguity of it all that Nolan created that allows for the fans to justify their own reasons for this and why any of the things happened the way they did or ended the way it did.

Very few films pull that off successfully and have a fan base that devoted that it will defend the very things that were actually weak about it.

[solidwii]

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Originally Posted by ashketch

The biggest thing I couldn't get over is if bane let all the criminals out that were locked up by the dent act, where is joker? In my experience with batman, if joker was released he would have taken over in a matter of days. The movie was great but there are a lot of holes

I wonder if the role of judge (cillian murphy)was actually written with the Joker in mind. "Death by exile"

[Greenskar]

^Thats a good point! So sad to think what may have been if Heath Ledger hadn't passed away.

[ashketch]

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Originally Posted by Torn Prince

Keep in mind Nolan's movies are based in realism, and in the real world if a man like The Joker existed and perpetrated the crimes he did, they would execute him, which is exactly what I think happened.

This film was beyond realism. It was lazily splashed together in the end.







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[spoiler]If its about realism please tell me when the bomb had 2 days left on detonation, bruce just happen to escape, get from the eastern hemisphere to Gotham while bankrupt, no money, no connections with the current state of Gotham, then infiltrate a surrounded city with no one noticing and then approach cat woman in 1 day and have full knowledge of everything that is taking place despite being absent during the fall of Gotham.

Now before saying he had his batwing/gadgets for this, it was verified after rescuing mr fox, he had everything locked up and stowed away and all power was cut off so Bruce had no access to anything but his feet.

The story was lagging and the part where everything started kicking in gear was all done in 10 mins which is bs. This was a good movie but again a clear hole in the storytelling part[/spoiler]

[Greenskar]

^This.

Again, its things like this that make me cringe when fans say Nolan's Batman films are based on realism. I think Nolan wants to give it an authentic feel to bring the audience into this world, and the lack of a Lazarus out to bring Ra's from the dead makes it less of a comic feel too I suppose. But its clearly more of a film based on a comic book character than a comic book movie to me. If that makes any sense.

I still like it though.

[ashketch]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

^This.

Again, its things like this that make me cringe when fans say Nolan's Batman films are based on realism. I think Nolan wants to give it an authentic feel to bring the audience into this world, and the lack of a Lazarus out to bring Ra's from the dead makes it less of a comic feel too I suppose. But its clearly more of a film based on a comic book character than a comic book movie to me. If that makes any sense.

I still like it though.

I agree. I understand what u r saying. The film was good but the least batman feeling in the trilogy to me.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Greenskar

Great movie! While I thought the fight choreography was horrendous

I thought the first fight between Bane and Batman was fantastic. It was so brutal and realistic.

[Barefootabe]

man, i was flinching when bane started to poud batmans head..

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I thought the first fight between Bane and Batman was fantastic. It was so brutal and realistic.

I was talking about the fights with Batman and random thugs. There were guys who were doing the noticeable hesitation before the over the head crowbar attack and late punches because they were waiting for the last choreographed move to end.

A lot of it happened during the last scene when Batman was on his way to Bane, which btw I felt was the cheesiest scene ever in some ways reminiscent of every pre-WWI movie battle where both sides charge and the Leaders of each side miraculously find each other amidst the chaos to do battle. I felt like that scene was forced and silly, but I appreciated the symbolism Nolan was obviously shooting for.

But I did like the one on one in the Sewers fight between Batman and Bane. They definitely put a lot more effort into choreographing that fight because there wasn't a whole lot of background noise going on to detract from it.

[Torn Prince]

First of all, we have no idea where the prison is, as its never said. Bruce is very intelligent and very resourceful, more so than your average man. A normal man could never do the things Bruce Wayne has done, which is why I never questioned him getting back into Gotham without getting shot. You forget the guy was trained as a ninja after all, ninjas can pretty much do whatever the hell they want.

[Greenskar]

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Originally Posted by Torn Prince

First of all, we have no idea where the prison is, as its never said. Bruce is very intelligent and very resourceful, more so than your average man. A normal man could never do the things Bruce Wayne has done, which is why I never questioned him getting back into Gotham without getting shot. You forget the guy was trained as a ninja after all, ninjas can pretty much do whatever the hell they want.

I'm pretty sure there is no desert in Gotham city. As for the rest of your comment...LMAO!

[Scythe]

Godayum, I just saw this shit......


*Spoiler Time*


Freakin' loved it. It did what movies are supposed to do, entertain the shit out of me. I'm not as jaded as some of my bro-chums who nitpicked the entire goddamn movie about the stupidest shit ever. This movie had it's faults, though they rarely bother me. Bruce was in that prison, he climbed to his freedom, how the f*ck did he get to Gotham so goddamn fast when the bomb was just like around 2 days from exploding? B*tch, please. Shit happens in movies. If you're having a hard time swallowing that, then most comic book movies are gonna have some beef with yo ass. BB was an amazing origins movie, I loved it, and it ties with this movie as number two, I'm a huge Joker fan, so that barely pushes TDK to the first spot for me.

Some things I disliked about the movie:

Bane, pretty goddamn intimidating, but imo he went down like a chuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmppppppppppp. Really, when all that shit was going down, seemed like Bane was quite the master planner, once the development of Talia being behind everything was revealed, sorta made me question if Bane had even planned anything at all. Not sure if I missed a part where they stated it was him all the way. Regardless though, Catwoman side-killin' him like that seemed pretty unfitting for the most part. Wanted bats to whup his ass some more, just seemed like he got dealt with pretty fast.

Catwoman, she was pretty baws, just not a big fan of Anne Hatheway. I'm also glad this Batman was different than his comic counterpart, cuz comic Batman would've 'OMFGWTFBBQwithsauceB*TCH-ON-FIRE'ed if he'd seen her kill anyone in front him like she did in this film.

Something that struck me as kinda odd, hahaha, Batman's fantasy Ras Al Ghul told him that Bane was his kid, hahaha, dude took it into consideration as a fact. I sat there going: Hmmm, I should do that more often, just have a misdirected fantasy of my boss parking her booty in my office and tell me I'm getting a raise and 15 vacation days a month. Won't make it true, but it kinda worked out for Batman.

Dat Dayo-Day-oh-oh-oh-daytyme! I know crime (revolution?) doesn't wait for the sun to go down, but man, how hard did peeps try not to laugh when Bats showed up during the day? Should've been a mostly night-time movie, but meh, what can ya do?

The fights, might as well spell out YMCA. Anyone notice the fight scenes coming off as appearing alittle too choreographed? It was like, kay guys, point guns at victims and threaten to shoot. Oh shi-! Batman's here. Everyone utilize these guns we're holding as blunt objects, no one shoot at him! MARTY, I SAW THAT! You let a round pop off, we can't afford mistakes like that, now everyone take him on at once. Even though we have a moment to dedicate a kill-shot, let's not take that chance this time.

Finally, JGL's character toward the end. His real name is Robin? Teehee. Were the names Richard or Dick busy? Seemed like it had to be spelled out to the audience. Us Nerdlingers would've been giddy at that reference, while common folk would've been: "Kay, I guess that's his real name."

Stuffies I liked:

Catwoman was useful! Not as useless as Black Widow who seemed forced to me.

Dear Satan, that Bats vs Bane fight early on, that shit was the hoe's knees! Lasted a good while and left you satisfied.

The ending. Freakin' loved that Robin (HeeTee) discovered the cave. Shit made it seem like he passed the mantle not cuz he f*ckin' left to make batkittens with Selina, but to make Batman a legend and shit.

Gordon, that dude played too rough, he got shit done. For the most,(since i've kept myself spoiler free) I thought he was gonna die at the hospital or Robin (Heehee) was gonna save his geriatric ass.

Gotham turning into pretty much a MGS Outer Haven, least that's what I thought.

Pretty awesome overall.

[Optimus Vader]

I saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it,.. thought it was a pretty good ending to a solid trilogy. I think the biggest problem is that Heath Ledger was too good. Seriously, after seeing TDK; watching TDKR is like driving a Camaro after driving a Lamborghini. It (TDKR) was really good, but this trilogy peaked already for me.

I loved the portrayal of Bane (voice, accent used,.. awesome!) in the movie, but didn't love how they didn't develop his character at all. Why was he wearing the mask?? Did I miss (an actual one) the explanation there? He was beaten up when he helped Talia escape, so the mask helps him not feel the pain from the beating he took about twenty years ago? ..say what?? I realize there is more to it (emotional pain too?), but what does the mask do? What chemical does it feed him? Nothing? Is he just scared? Was his nose ripped off and he feels deformed? He needs it to breathe properly? Why does he start freaking out and curl up into the fetal position when it starts to come off? He can punch holes into concrete pillars? Is part of whatever the mask feeds him also giving him physical strength? Maybe I blacked out when they went over Bane, but I really felt like grazed over his back-story a little too quickly (or entirely). And Hardy did a nice job, I have no issues there, it's just that I felt TDK did a better job connecting the audience to the core characters.

TGL was a very welcome addition to the cast. That guy can act. Hathaway was ok as Catwoman, but in all honesty her or her character really didn't make me feel anything. She didn't fuck it up, so I guess that's a plus. I definitely liked all of the symbolic Batman stuff though.

Overall I think it was really good, I enjoyed it,.. just not my favorite from the Trilogy, and I would've liked a little more Bane back-story.

[Death2Fanboys]

Yesterday was my THIRD view. One at midnight, the other one on SAT and on Sunday I saw it on IMAX.

No point in me giving a review. I love it what can I say more?

Best Romantic Superhero Movie since Superman 2. The people at Sony should take notes for spiderman. This is how you do a romance in superhero movies. Not shoving it down people throats...."go tiger" Ugh!

But enough of that! This is the best way to conclude the trilogy. Batman Began, fought his most challenging enemies, and he rises...can't say more.

[jaybird7072]

Romantic???

[ashketch]

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Originally Posted by Torn Prince

First of all, we have no idea where the prison is, as its never said. Bruce is very intelligent and very resourceful, more so than your average man. A normal man could never do the things Bruce Wayne has done, which is why I never questioned him getting back into Gotham without getting shot. You forget the guy was trained as a ninja after all, ninjas can pretty much do whatever the hell they want.

Your portrayal of ninjas compared to your "nolan realism films" are worlds apart. Ninjas are no where resourceful enough to get from one side of the world to the other within 1 day "realisticly". And the fact that the location of the prison was never released was clearly on nolan's shoulders for not specifying. It was a deliberate skip over to push batman into the city within such a short time frame. And, to point out a fact, the setting and the environment clearly shows the prison is in the eastern hemisphere. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to put that together. Plus, in all the incidents involving ras al ghul without batman's involvment took place in the eastern hemisphere. Now with your idea for bruce wayne is clearly the comic version. This is the cinematic batman and he is not the same person. All of batman's resources and detective work in the cinematic world all come from Mr. Fox. Batman does not do any type of detective work without the aid of Mr. Fox. The progress from BB to the TDKR rises still shows he has not peaked to the point of being the master detective. Assumtions made on what batman can do cannot be based on who he was in the comics. In the films, everything he can do is solely based on the previous films. Especially since he has done nothing for 8 years.

I understand your nostalgia for batman is part of your reasoning but dont get the comic batman and cinematic batman mixed up. In the movie world, you are telling a story to the entire world, not just aimed at your fanbase via comics/cartoons. In the movie verse, you have to explain everything and why things happened and do it more precisely especially if you made events transpire in 2 previous films. The film world is a whole different monster and judged entirely on a different scale. In terms of story as a whole, yes TDKR was great. In terms of how the story was told, thats where TDKR failed. (if that made sense)


In short, you are like saying the Amazing spiderman is a split image of the comic spiderman when it is clearly not. Same goes with TDKR, This is not the same batman portrayed in the comics my friend.

[IronAvenger]

first of all, everyone seems to forget, that the bomb had 5 months to go off, last time we saw bruce doing push ups it was 85 days into it as said on the tv. i cant remember but that was like his 2nd climb already? so you must think from his third climb to the time he took to get to gothom would give him a good solid 2 and a half months right?, so for everyone out there whos saying OHHHH he got there in one day. no he didnt, he probably took weeks or some shit, it was just not explained to u. as for how he got into gothom, HES BATMAN. how else, everyone is jsut nitpicking at this point. this movie was DAM GOOD, in my personal opinion i enjoyed it more then avengers, and i love marvel. remember every movie has some plot holes or, some kind of flaw someone doesnt like. to each their own, this movie was the shit.

[Greenskar]

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first of all, everyone seems to forget, that the bomb had 5 months to go off, last time we saw bruce doing push ups it was 85 days into it as said on the tv. i cant remember but that was like his 2nd climb already? so you must think from his third climb to the time he took to get to gothom would give him a good solid 2 and a half months right?, so for everyone out there whos saying OHHHH he got there in one day. no he didnt, he probably took weeks or some shit, it was just not explained to u. as for how he got into gothom, HES BATMAN. how else, everyone is jsut nitpicking at this point. this movie was DAM GOOD, in my personal opinion i enjoyed it more then avengers, and i love marvel. remember every movie has some plot holes or, some kind of flaw someone doesnt like. to each their own, this movie was the shit.

Batman has one superpower above all other superheroes in comics that no one can touch. And its this power and this power only that allows him to do anything he wants and beat anyone at anytime.

The most powerful fanboy following in existence!

[Optimus Vader]

I'm still waiting for a good Bane mask explanation.