[Zorn88]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

I can't agree, I googled pictures of the DCUC Damian Wayne to compare and it looks awful. Poorly proportioned, pin headed and the head sculpt is ugly as sin. The Icons version is far superior.

If you truly believe that vv-this-vv Damian looks better sculpted and, more importantly, better proportioned



than vv-this-vv Damian, I have no faith in your taste in figures.



The Icons may have better articulation, and higher sculpting detail (which is natual and better be that way), but you cannot possibly call the DCUC one ugly as sin after seeing the Icons one.

[OGTrilogy]

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Originally Posted by Zorn88

If you truly believe that vv-this-vv Damian looks better sculpted and, more importantly, better proportioned



than vv-this-vv Damian, I have no faith in your taste in figures.



The Icons may have better articulation, and higher sculpting detail (which is natual and better be that way), but you cannot possibly call the DCUC one ugly as sin after seeing the Icons one.

based on the photos you posted the Mattel version looks good, but IMO he's too muscular and too tall. He doesn't look like that in any of the comics I've read. Maybe i will be able to pop the head off of the Icons version and put it back on the ball joint about halfway to make his neck look a little longer. That's really the only problem I see in the Icons version.

[lordbest]

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Originally Posted by Zorn88

If you truly believe that vv-this-vv Damian looks better sculpted and, more importantly, better proportioned



than vv-this-vv Damian, I have no faith in your taste in figures.



The Icons may have better articulation, and higher sculpting detail (which is natual and better be that way), but you cannot possibly call the DCUC one ugly as sin after seeing the Icons one.

I can and I do, his head is tiny, he is ridiculously over muscled and his face reminds me of Arseface from Preacher more than anything. In my opinion the Icons version is superior in every respect. You clearly disagree and fair enough.

[lordbest]

(you can see Damians neck)

I'm definitely getting Super Sons and Supergirl.

[Dr Kain]

So what accessories do you think will be axed?

I'm going to say the extra Supergirl head, one of Damien's hands with the batarangs (if not both), and the Superman head with the heatvision.

[OGTrilogy]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

So what accessories do you think will be axed?

I'm going to say the extra Supergirl head, one of Damien's hands with the batarangs (if not both), and the Superman head with the heatvision.

Ha! Ha! Just watch. They'll probably drop a bunch of accessories from a handful of figures and throw them in an accessory set sometime in the future. It'll be some left hands for the Joker, Harley's alternate head and whatever else gets scrapped from these new figures.

[lordbest]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

So what accessories do you think will be axed?

I'm going to say the extra Supergirl head, one of Damien's hands with the batarangs (if not both), and the Superman head with the heatvision.

I could see the heat vision heads going yep, which wouldn't bother me too much. I'd imagine you would get at least one batarang hand with Damian though.
Of course they might not scrap any of them, I don't think anyone solicited with the Batgirl and Darkseid figures were scrapped and they would have been likely contenders for cost cutting. Wait and see I guess.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

I don't think anyone solicited with the Batgirl and Darkseid figures were scrapped and they would have been likely contenders for cost cutting. Wait and see I guess.

The difference is that those two were $65 and $100 toys.

[lordbest]

True, but they were also quite large and involved sets, I would have thought the temptation to cut costs on smaller accessories and try and sell it on the strength of the wow factor would have been there.

My main worry is that this is all we will see for Icons in terms of new figures at Toy Fair, that would be a bigger disappointment than losing a heat vision head for Supergirl in a few months.

[Dr Kain]

Toy Fair 2017- In The Booth With DC Collectibles

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The Icons will be moving to the Iconic Moments idea, giving fans figures, accessories, and mini diorama parts. The first of the change will be the death of Superman with both Superman and Doomsday. The last of the single figures will be Nightwing and Supergirl, the rest of their waves previewed at SDCC have been shelved for the time being, including Booster and Blue Beetle. Hopefully they will make their way back into the line, but with out more collector support the line will start to cut back even more.

YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

I sold off my entire DCU collection for this line. Now I will not even get my god damn Swamp Thing!

[Jeddostotle7]

Oh my God, are you kidding me...

[EvilMonkeyPope]

Swamp Thing could still be coming as he was photographed with other toys that have just come out & it seems too late to axe that wave if it's due in April.

[OGTrilogy]

Wow, this sucks. I was really looking forward to the Jim Balent era Catwoman and I might have picked up a few other figures too. I really liked how the Harley Quinn fits in so nicely with my DCUC figures. I don't understand why they are changing direction like this so early in the game. Do they really think they'll sell more expensive multipacks with a few diorama peices and some ACBA cutouts than they would sell individual figures. With all the delays they've had the last couple of years, they could have increased the scale of the figures gradually, worked out the kinks with their articulation and sales would have probably picked up for the Icons line.

Also, they shouldn't have wasted everyone's time with Killer Croc, Baby Doll and Fire Suit Batman from the New Adventures. They should have gotten essential characters from the Animated Series like Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy out on the pegs a long time ago instead of going the multipack route. I think they're going to be surprised how many fans hold out for the 5 pack to hit clearance.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by OGTrilogy

Where did this quote come from?

In the link posted above the quote.

[donmeca2020]

judging by kain's quote, does this mean no Deathstroke, Demon, or 90s era catwoman ??? if so im pissed.... i wanted swampy but was 50/50 with him due to his size.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

judging by kain's quote, does this mean no Deathstroke, Demon, or 90s era catwoman ??? if so im pissed.... i wanted swampy but was 50/50 with him due to his size.

I thought they announced Etrigan's cancellation awhile ago. If Deathstroke doesn't happen I'll be upset but at this point not surprised.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

judging by kain's quote, does this mean no Deathstroke, Demon, or 90s era catwoman ??? if so im pissed.... i wanted swampy but was 50/50 with him due to his size.

From the way they are talking, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Captain Marvel, Static Shock, Etrigan, WW (with the accessories), Cyborg (with accessories), Swamp Thing, Catwoman, Booster Gold, and Blue Beetle have all been canceled.

The worst part about the Iconic Moments stuff is that means we are going to have a lot of figures feature battle damage, which I personally hate if there isn't a regular version available.

[OGTrilogy]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

In the link posted above the quote.

Yeah, sorry. I noticed the link after my post and then I edited my post.

[Skoob]

Comment redacted because I'm not adding anything constructive.

[lordbest]

That's extremely disappointing.

Maybe they will launch a new single figure 6" scale line that will scale with Icons but have fewer accessories or something to give it a lower price point.

[JokerArkham]

salty about deathstroke and catwoman possibly cancelled
i was really anticipating them

[Weapon X]

Some of the sculpts are really excellent in this line, but they're just too small...I don't know why they made that decision.

The only one I want to get is Harley Quinn.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Skoob

Comment redacted because I'm not adding anything constructive.

There's no need to be constructive. Sometimes it's better to just get your anger out.

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Originally Posted by JokerArkham

salty about deathstroke and catwoman possibly cancelled
i was really anticipating them

Yep.

[Skoob]

I commented that the decision to abort an entire mature product line couldn't have been made lightly, as it reflects negatively and might indicate friction within the organization. When stuff like this happens, it makes customers nervous; nervous customers are hesitant shoppers. Hopefully, the matter is unique, contained and resolved, but...?

For my part, I agree with the decision, as some of the kiboshed items begged for revision. But I'm puzzled by some of the stuff that's green-lighted as well. Where is the old boutique standard? Where is the market focus?

Given the falling viewership, the preponderance of TV figures seems to carry more than a little risk.

DC Collectibles has been a mainstay for me. I hope all will be well.

[Lionheart]

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From the way they are talking, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Captain Marvel, Static Shock, Etrigan, WW (with the accessories), Cyborg (with accessories), Swamp Thing, Catwoman, Booster Gold, and Blue Beetle have all been canceled.

So they made a Black Adam but now Captain Marvel is cancelled?! Why couldn't they just release what they've already shown and then change the line's direction?