[T0ySick]

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan

Figure looks great, btw.

I agree. The point is not that the figure looks bad. It looks fucking great. What I find is the constant enabibility for people to let go of the fact that this outfit has and will change. My opinion means nothing and is nothing and will be ignored and or forgotten on an insignificant toy board. But man I hear so many complaints about the fact that things looks different from what people hold nostalgicaly ideal.

[Jeddostotle7]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Well put...not to mention the bad asses of professional wrestling at that time such as Karl Gotch, "Strangler" Ed Lewis, Verne Gagne, Jim Londos, and Lou Thesz...who "worked" matches as we've come to know in the modern times, but were also legitimate shooters who could stretch you ten ways from Sunday if crossed them.

Yes, them too! Exactly!

My point isn't some kind of appeal to nostalgia, that "the old ways were better", but that there were cultural reasons that these visual tropes came to be in the first place, that people didn't view it as "underwear on the outside" back in the day but instead a straightforward evocation of the visual features of real-life examples of great physical strength, and that those evocations then began to reinforce themselves within the medium when superheroes themselves became the icons of physical strength and ability that future creators drew upon. At some point cultural views about clothing eventually changed to where some began to view trunks as silly, but to me that specific notion has always felt less like a straightforward natural development and more like people internalizing "schoolyard bullying over interests"-level of petty mockery towards the visual tropes of superheroes, or insecure worrying about it making them "too silly" and restricting superhero stuff from being """serious enough""". Superheroes don't need trunks to denote strength or fighting ability, of course not! There's so many more ways superheroes can do that now. But I don't think spurning them is really constructive, either. Trunks aren't something we need to let go of, when they can continue to exist alongside newer visual tropes and aesthetics.

[protostar8]

I see Todd has migrated back to his comfort zone of statues with Dark Flash. lol
I really hope the old fart retires and lets actually talented sculptors and figure makes take over.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by T0ySick

I agree. The point is not that the figure looks bad. It looks fucking great. What I find is the constant enabibility for people to let go of the fact that this outfit has and will change. My opinion means nothing and is nothing and will be ignored and or forgotten on an insignificant toy board. But man I hear so many complaints about the fact that things looks different from what people hold nostalgicaly ideal.

While I'm team manty, I do appreciate where you are coming from. Nostalgia stymies progress on many fronts (innovation/creativity/social interaction/art/science/etc). I get it.

[Skoob]

I wouldn't mind a decent statue of something that looks good and shows some real passion and attention to detail. The old Predator and Aliens and some of the horror statues of yesteryear were / are gorgeous.

I just wish some of the basic design decisions coming out lately weren't so poor. Look at that Dark Flash. Seriously, they just roll somebody in black tar and it gets approved for release?! Come ON.

I'm with Jeddostotle7. At least, by going back to some of the classic designs and adopting an 'authentic' approach, we as collectors aren't forced to put up with some jerk trying to add his or her own punk "interpretation" to something that's best left alone. The same point applies to the retooling of franchises in Hollywood to support contemporary agendas. Let the market speak.

[Harbinger]

God that design looks like a literal pile of shit.

[IzzyTipsy]

I can't blame Todd for Dark flash. That's WB's shit ass design.

Guess they didn't want to waste Reverse Flash in this film.

[T0ySick]

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Originally Posted by IzzyTipsy

That's WB's shit ass design

And DCs continued poor taste in costuming

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by T0ySick

And DCs continued poor taste in costuming

Right. No one made them use that "design".

[IzzyTipsy]

He's basically Black Flash anyway.

[ghostbogey]

"That" Dark Flash....

I Pass "BIG TIME"...

Can't make all figs..
"BIG" Hits McF..
I guess ;^)

"Do,Do" Flash is a 12"er too...

Wish they did a 12" Yamaguchi...
DC Mulltiverse Flash (imho)

[StudioOneTwelve]

All points aside regarding the character design, this pose is embarrassing. Is that suppose to look like he's running? They can do way better than that, makes sense why it's a McFarlane store exclusive

[snake5289]

To be fair did you see the way Miller "ran" in Justice League? The pose is pretty accurate in that regard. I hope they had him work on that for the Flash movie.

[Skoob]

Good point. I remember wondering about that bizarre flapping of the arms. You'd think that an actor getting paid to depict a superhero whose special power is the ability to run fast would at least get coached on how to look like a competent runner.

The actor gives off a weird vibe in other ways. Somebody needs to kick his ass and tell him to stop slouching and make an effort.

In a way, he's a metaphor for Hollywood in general. It's like the whole industry was afflicted with some kind of sickness 3-4 years ago, and now nobody cares. On the positive side, there's not much coming out lately that motivates me to spend money.

[IzzyTipsy]

The thing is they WANT him to run that way. he's supposed to be running like a speed skater skates. Which looks idiotic when running

[ThorOdinson123]

New product listings showing for Multiverse. A lot of Gold Label.

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DC Multiverse September
- DC COLLECTOR MEGAFIG WV6 – JUSTICE BUSTER BATSUIT (BATMAN: ENDGAME)
- DC COLLECTOR MEGAFIG WV6 – ANTI-MONITOR (CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS)
- DC COLLECTOR 2PK – SUPERMAN VS SUPERMAN OF EARTH -3 WITH ATOMICA
- DC COLLECTOR 2 PK – BATMAN & SPAWN
- DC COLLECTOR 2PK – ATOMIC SKULL VS SUPERMAN (GOLD LABEL)
- THE RIDDLER PUZZLE BOX (BLACK LIGHT VARIANT)
- DC MCFARLANE COLLECTOR EDITION 7IN – #1 – SUPERMAN (ACTION COMICS #1)
- DC MCFARLANE COLLECTOR EDITION 7IN – #2 – GREEN LANTERN ALAN SCOTT (DAY OF VENGEANCE)
- DC MCFARLANE COLLECTOR EDITION 7IN – #3 – ABYSS (BATMAN VS ABYSS)
- DC MULTIVERSE MULTIPACK – WB100 – BATMAN 6 PACK
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – BATMAN (BATMAN: WHITE KNIGHT)(LINE ART)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – SUPERBOY PRIME (PATINA)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – SUPERMAN (HUSH)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – ROBIN (TIM DRAKE)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – THE RIDDLER (DC CLASSIC)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – CATMAN (VILLAINS UNITED)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – RED ROBIN (NEW 52)(JOKERIZED)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – BATMAN (BATMAN: WHITE KNIGHT)(JOKERIZED)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – BLACK LIGHTNING (FINAL CRISIS)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE MULTIPACK – CLAYFACE AND BATWOMAN AND BATMAN (REBIRTH)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – THE JOKER (JAIL CELL VARIANT)(THE DARK KNIGHT)(GOLD LABEL) – NYCC
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- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – BATMAN BY TODD MCFARLANE (LINE ART)(GOLD LABEL) – NYCC
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – SUPERGIRL (REBIRTH)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN – GREEN LANTERN (DC VS VAMPIRES)(GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE VEHICLES – BAT RAPTOR WITH MODERN BATMAN (GOLD LABEL)
- DC MULTIVERSE 7IN WITH VEHICLE – BATMAN 1989 WITH BATMOBILE (GOLD LABEL)

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[CosmicCreature]

Gold labels are driving me away from supporting mcfarlane . its sad because I actually love his products 90% of the time.
Oh by the way also heres some more great gold label news
---Yellow lantern batman -SOLDOUT
https://www.target.com/p/mcfarlane-t...e/-/A-87846922

[ThorOdinson123]

Pisses me off Black Lightning is gold label (Please be target) with its popularity from the TV Show I would think Todd would have it as a regular release. I hope to get him somehow.

Also someone tell Todd nobody wants those stupid Jokerized versions of Batman and Robin

[Harbinger]

Of course a re-release of the 89 batmobile & batman are fucking gold label. Even catman is fucking gold label. Its like all the shit people might actually want are gold label. Im damn near at the point of saying fuck mcfartlame selling off my figs and washing my hands of him since he cant get his head outta the late 90s early 2000s and into the modern age.

[Raine24]

Any guesses on how the '89 Batmobile may differ from the Flash Batmobile? I don't expect any tooling changes, like a new canopy, but painted wheels would be a nice start.

I assume that the end of the gun doors being separate parts means Brownings at some point.

[T0ySick]

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Originally Posted by Raine24

.I assume that the end of the gun doors being separate parts means Brownings at some point.

What?

[Raine24]

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Originally Posted by T0ySick

What?

The '89 Batmobile has twin machine guns hidden beneath beneath those rectangular panels in front of the canopy, and the McF version of the car has the foremost part of those panels clipped on rather than molded in. Presumably, this would be so that an accessory (i.e. the Brownings) can be swapped in on a different release. The presentation wouldn't be remotely accurate, but not much is on the car.

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by Raine24

The '89 Batmobile has twin machine guns hidden beneath beneath those rectangular panels in front of the canopy, and the McF version of the car has the foremost part of those panels clipped on rather than molded in. Presumably, this would be so that an accessory (i.e. the Brownings) can be swapped in on a different release. The presentation wouldn't be remotely accurate, but not much is on the car.

I'd love a Batmobile with functioning gun doors and pop up 50s. As someone who has totally disassembled a Flash Batmobile for repainting I can tell you that the circular detail bits are not easily removable. Could they create clip on guns with smaller tabs? Yeah maybe. But it would require a structural support revision within the interior and the guns would be positioned too far forward. They would look kind of weird. Not an ideal solution. It would not make me pay more money for a "Gold Label" version.

Also, what makes you think they are now allowing guns (again) in the line? I'd LOVE that. But haven't seen any indication that's happening. The Batfleck bike has them but they have no muzzle holes. They don't immediately read as "guns". Much different than a pair of readily recognizable mounted 50's.

Again it would be GREAT. I just have seen no indications it's happening. If you have please spill!

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Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123

Pisses me off Black Lightning is gold label (Please be target) with its popularity from the TV Show I would think Todd would have it as a regular release. I hope to get him somehow.

Man I agree. If it's WM it will suck BIG TIME. I never even saw Knightfall AzBats.

[Thatannoyingguy]

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Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123

New product listings showing for Multiverse. A lot of Gold Label.



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Why does everything have to be Gold Label and jokerized? I’m interested in Hush Superman, 6 Batmen, and Tim Drake Robin. It doesn’t mean I will buy them for sure. When is Steel coming out? I’m thinking of getting that one over the recent Mafex version.

[Jester]

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7

Yes, them too! Exactly!

My point isn't some kind of appeal to nostalgia, that "the old ways were better", but that there were cultural reasons that these visual tropes came to be in the first place, that people didn't view it as "underwear on the outside" back in the day but instead a straightforward evocation of the visual features of real-life examples of great physical strength, and that those evocations then began to reinforce themselves within the medium when superheroes themselves became the icons of physical strength and ability that future creators drew upon. At some point cultural views about clothing eventually changed to where some began to view trunks as silly, but to me that specific notion has always felt less like a straightforward natural development and more like people internalizing "schoolyard bullying over interests"-level of petty mockery towards the visual tropes of superheroes, or insecure worrying about it making them "too silly" and restricting superhero stuff from being """serious enough""". Superheroes don't need trunks to denote strength or fighting ability, of course not! There's so many more ways superheroes can do that now. But I don't think spurning them is really constructive, either. Trunks aren't something we need to let go of, when they can continue to exist alongside newer visual tropes and aesthetics.

A good point.

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

While I'm team manty, I do appreciate where you are coming from. Nostalgia stymies progress on many fronts (innovation/creativity/social interaction/art/science/etc). I get it.

What has been will be again. What has been done will be done again. There is nothing new under the sun.

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

I'd love a Batmobile with functioning gun doors and pop up 50s. As someone who has totally disassembled a Flash Batmobile for repainting I can tell you that the circular detail bits are not easily removable. Could they create clip on guns with smaller tabs? Yeah maybe. But it would require a structural support revision within the interior and the guns would be positioned too far forward. They would look kind of weird. Not an ideal solution. It would not make me pay more money for a "Gold Label" version.

Also, what makes you think they are now allowing guns (again) in the line? I'd LOVE that. But haven't seen any indication that's happening. The Batfleck bike has them but they have no muzzle holes. They don't immediately read as "guns". Much different than a pair of readily recognizable mounted 50's.

Huh. I always thought that they were .30 cal M1919s, given the guns' overall size in relation to the Batmobile.

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Man I agree. If it's WM it will suck BIG TIME. I never even saw Knightfall AzBats.

Oof, if I'd known he was going to be so hard-to-find, I would have picked a couple more for trading. Maybe then I could actually get my hands on the classic costume version of Kyle Rayner...