[Joe Moore]

DC Collectibles - Batman Black and White Figures, New Statues and More

[SpasticPlastic]

I like the Black and White figures, but these are just repaints of existing figures. I'll probably get them, with the hopes that they will expand to other ones, specifically Norm Breyfogle.

[deecee4]

Next wave of Black & White figures are probably going to be Ed McGuinness and Alex Ross versions.

[OriginalFire]

No Capullo, Metal Batman on BBTS, but everything else seems to be there. Did I already miss the pre-order, is it already sold out

[seoulexoda]

They got budget to produce these black and white figure toyline that no one asked for but they don't have budget for the DC Films figures that everyone wants. GREAT STRATEGY DCC. I won't be surprised if they stopped doing action figures in the next 3 or 4 years.

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by seoulexoda

They got budget to produce these black and white figure toyline that no one asked for but they don't have budget for the DC Films figures that everyone wants. GREAT STRATEGY DCC. I won't be surprised if they stopped doing action figures in the next 3 or 4 years.

Well I understand the black and white figure line since they're just repaints of figures they already did, and the black and white statue line sells pretty well for them, but I agree that they shoulda continued the DC movie figures. The 50+ dollar price obviously killed it, and their reasoning that it had to be that high because Mattel has the master license for DC toys reeked of BS. If Mattel sells thier figures for around 20, make yours 30-35, and that'll justify the extra pieces you include. Really hoping NECA is able to do another 7" Toys R Us exclusive wave and have their Batfleck in it...

[Joe Moore]

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

Well I understand the black and white figure line since they're just repaints of figures they already did, and the black and white statue line sells pretty well for them, but I agree that they shoulda continued the DC movie figures. The 50+ dollar price obviously killed it, and their reasoning that it had to be that high because Mattel has the master license for DC toys reeked of BS. If Mattel sells thier figures for around 20, make yours 30-35, and that'll justify the extra pieces you include. Really hoping NECA is able to do another 7" Toys R Us exclusive wave and have their Batfleck in it...

A master toy license holder (like Mattel) gets to dictate everything with what can and can't be produced and sold by other licensees. While DCC is a subsidiary of DC Comics, the toy rights still default to Mattel and they need to go through them for approval on any product that can be seen (by Mattel) as being a competing item.

We've seen this already with Hasbro and SH Figuarts Marvel items, which have to be sold at the $100 price point in North America. That is why the Bluefin editions always include additional items, so they can get the price in line. We've also seen it with NECA, who has to jump through hoops to do TMNT items and can then only sell them in the US.

Also, the interest seemed very lackluster for the DC Movie items they revealed and the general price point. The market was (and still is) utterly saturated with 6 inch or so collector oriented Batman v Superman items and there's were coming way after. It just made no sense to start with those if they weren't going to be timed to hit retail when the movie was out.

As far as more DC 7" figures from NECA, they've said that the stand alone releases are likely done. they are focusing on the Dark Horse and DC 2-Packs (which have been a licensing nightmare).

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by Joe Moore

A master toy license holder (like Mattel) gets to dictate everything with what can and can't be produced and sold by other licensees. While DCC is a subsidiary of DC Comics, the toy rights still default to Mattel and they need to go through them for approval on any product that can be seen (by Mattel) as being a competing item.

We've seen this already with Hasbro and SH Figuarts Marvel items, which have to be sold at the $100 price point in North America. That is why the Bluefin editions always include additional items, so they can get the price in line. We've also seen it with NECA, who has to jump through hoops to do TMNT items and can then only sell them in the US.

Also, the interest seemed very lackluster for the DC Movie items they revealed and the general price point. The market was (and still is) utterly saturated with 6 inch or so collector oriented Batman v Superman items and there's were coming way after. It just made no sense to start with those if they weren't going to be timed to hit retail when the movie was out.

As far as more DC 7" figures from NECA, they've said that the stand alone releases are likely done. they are focusing on the Dark Horse and DC 2-Packs (which have been a licensing nightmare).

Well, poop :P I still like more coulda been done, but what do I know about the inner workings of toy companies XD

(Also, on the subject of more standalone DC figures: I've seen NECA out and out say they WILL NOT be doing certain characters or licenses, then the very next month/week/day, announce they're making it and even have in progress photos showing it's been in the works for a while, So forgive me for thinking they might just be playing coy... )

[Joe Moore]

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

Well, poop :P I still like more coulda been done, but what do I know about the inner workings of toy companies XD

(Also, on the subject of more standalone DC figures: I've seen NECA out and out say they WILL NOT be doing certain characters or licenses, then the very next month/week/day, announce they're making it and even have in progress photos showing it's been in the works for a while, So forgive me for thinking they might just be playing coy... )

In his Twitter responses it sounded more like it was the 2-packs that were outright replacing the stand alone releases. If you look at the original release dates set for the Batman vs Alien Joker set, that was supposed to take the DC holiday slot for 2017. Here was one of Randy's last posts on it:

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by Joe Moore

In his Twitter responses it sounded more like it was the 2-packs that were outright replacing the stand alone releases. If you look at the original release dates set for the Batman vs Alien Joker set, that was supposed to take the DC holiday slot for 2017. Here was one of Randy's last posts on it:

Well if that is indeed the case and we DON'T get a 7" Burt Ward Robin to go with Adam West Batman, I know a lotta collectors will be veeeery cheesed off...


Not saying I want the DC/Dark Horse packs to be canned, but if they were I would hope the 7" movie figures would come back yknow? But that's just wishful thinking

[deecee4]

It's gonna be interesting to see how Neca reuses those Batman and Superman sculpts after the 2-packs eventually get released.