[CLASSIFIED]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Like I said before, they always abduct generations of families. Sad thing is, if he has kids, they will probably have to deal with it to. People make fun of this all the time. But think about it, these people didn't ask to have this happen to them.(At least not most) These people are really suffering, and when they try to open up to people about what happened to them, people just laugh and say they are crazy.

If the truth ever comes out, this is really going to be a tragic story about how most of humanity didn't care that this was happening to them.

This dude isn't always abducted by aliens as much as he has the ability to see them.

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Originally Posted by BlackMagnus

Chupacabra, yea. Mothman, probably. Sasquatch, no.

What if he got dropped off?

But seriously, there are a lot of simmilarities between the two phenomenon, and I wouldn't be surprised to discover they were related.

Really speaks to the human condition I think.

[roshan]

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

I don't think it is anymore arrogant to think that life is exclusive to earth than to think that it is not, given that we don't even know how life on earth originated to begin with.

I think arogance comes in when we assert that we know conclusively one way or another, when the reality is that we don't.

As to why aliens would visit the earth and what makes us so special.

Clearly intelligent life is rare, we know of no other life, let alone intelligent life, in the universe. If you had the ability to visit the other world that had it, wouldn't you?

From your fourth paragraph I lead you back to your second. We only know that intelligent life is rare in our own solar system. Anything else is merely a hypothesis best guess given the limited data we are able to gather from long range observance. When it comes to astrophysics and exobiology, we are even to this day, in our infancy in understanding the entire system and what inhabits it.

[CLASSIFIED]

My point is we don't know.

Personally, I think we are alone, but believe when the time comes, we will find another planet teeming with life to inhabit should this one no longer be enough, or at least figure out how to build a Genesis Device Star Trek 2 style.

I'm more open to the idea of other dimensions, and beings with the ability to travel between them, as well as people from earth with the ability to see into them.

What to make of this guy from work and his stories is my real concern.

[Fedup23]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

One thing I learned from reading all these stories and witness account. That they are not perfect, Their Technology can backfire just like ours. Maybe not as often but it happens. And most of their Technology is alive in a sense. I don't think they build anything, they grow it in a way. btw, I'm no expert, all this stuff is what I heard and read about. Only thing I'm sure of is the UFO/Nuke thing. I was in the Military/Navy. When your guarding anything Nuclear, YOU DON'T MAKE SHIT UP on those reports.

Back to the Roosevelt Deal with the aliens, They didn't just do that with the US, they went to all the Super Powers at the time. Apparently the USSR told both aliens to F!@# OFF. It takes BALLS to do that.

I was in the military (Navy) also and was involved in onloading/offloading/transporting/guarding many nuclear weapons.. Im wondering WTF you are talking about... LOL. I sat in a cargo hold just staring at nukes (literally..its true.. 24/7 mandatory visual contact) for 4 hours at a stretch.. never had any "visitors".

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Fedup23

I was in the military (Navy) also and was involved in onloading/offloading/transporting/guarding many nuclear weapons.. Im wondering WTF you are talking about... LOL. I sat in a cargo hold just staring at nukes (literally..its true.. 24/7 mandatory visual contact) for 4 hours at a stretch.. never had any "visitors".

OK, so do you think these guys are lying about what happened to them?

[Fedup23]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

OK, so do you think these guys are lying about what happened to them?

I dont know what happened to them in the video.. if its even a legit video..
but I spent 3 years between Japan and SanFran shuttling nukes out of the east during the nuclear arms reduction between 91 and 94....basically the US and Russia decided to play nice and reduce the # of nukes they had "close" to each others borders.

Load after load we transferred..month after month..year after year.. no red lights in the sky.. all nukes viable and intact before and after transfer. Sorry, I am not "feeling" this one.

By the way.. do you subscribe to the idea that bees and wheat actually come from Venus? (I ask because you talk about a lot of the same things someone i know talks about.. they get it all off some internet site)

[D00MTR0N]

do you also believe area 51 is all alien spacecraft as well?

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Fedup23

I dont know what happened to them in the video.. if its even a legit video..
but I spent 3 years between Japan and SanFran shuttling nukes out of the east during the nuclear arms reduction between 91 and 94....basically the US and Russia decided to play nice and reduce the # of nukes they had "close" to each others borders.

Load after load we transferred..month after month..year after year.. no red lights in the sky.. all nukes viable and intact before and after transfer. Sorry, I am not "feeling" this one.

By the way.. do you subscribe to the idea that bees and wheat actually come from Venus? (I ask because you talk about a lot of the same things someone i know talks about.. they get it all off some internet site)

So basicly your saying because it never happened to you it never happened to anyone else ever in the history of anyone else in the Military?

All I'm saying is Retired Military Officers on the 27 of September at the National Press Club in Washington, DC on 2010 said they saw something really weird, and NUCLEAR missiles were shutdown. Don't you think that's KIND of important?

btw, The National Press Club is a REAL PLACE, Kings and Presidents from all over the world speck there. You don't speck there without having evidence to back up your claims. This was on CNN and FOX at the time.

If watching these credible men doesn't convince you something weird is going on, I don't know what else to say.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by D00MTR0N

do you also believe area 51 is all alien spacecraft as well?

What I believe that there are some really weird things happening on this planet, it's happening to doctors, police officers, military, and just regular people. It's happening all the time, and most people don't have a clue about any of it. Personally, I just want to know what's going on.

[Fedup23]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

So basicly your saying because it never happened to you it never happened to anyone else ever in the history of anyone else in the Military?

All I'm saying is Retired Military Officers on the 27 of September at the National Press Club in Washington, DC on 2010 said they saw something really weird, and NUCLEAR missiles were shutdown. Don't you think that's KIND of important?

btw, The National Press Club is a REAL PLACE, Kings and Presidents from all over the world speck there. You don't speck there without having evidence to back up your claims. This was on CNN and FOX at the time.

If watching these credible men doesn't convince you something weird is going on, I don't know what else to say.

I am just relaying my experience.

I don't automatically believe whatever I hear no matter what the forum or who is the one saying it. Hell..we have been lied to from the Oval Office by the most powerfully men in the world for years. Should we not expect the US President to be a credible source?? (Don't answer that..Haha)

I am a credible source ..if I decided to tell people I ate dinner with Bigfoot last night should everyone just nod and believe me? (He has impeccable table manners BTW)

I am just cautioning that just because he is supposedly ex military..he is wearing a suit and he speaks well doesn't mean it happened.

There is a woman who posts on youtube Colleen Thomas..she talks about being a liason for some alien race called the plesians or something..she is well spoken..well thought out and just flat out respectable looking. She goes on and on about their knowledge and their advanced technology and all sorts of stuff. Then she claims that they have informed her of some upcoming cataclysm ..they have told her how to survive it and how to prepare for it..and for 25 dollars she will share this knowledge with you..she did afterall spend her valuable time researching all of this and it wouldn't be right just to GIVE this information away. She fits what some would call "credible". Please look her up and give me your take on her. (You very well could know her already) I have a friend who believes everything she says and the poor guys lives in fear!!

[Xcaliber037]

Check this out guys. UFOs umong us.

This is a model helicopter that anyone can buy, build and learn to fly. Imagine what the military industrial complex can do with an even bigger budget.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Fedup23

I am just relaying my experience.

I don't automatically believe whatever I hear no matter what the forum or who is the one saying it. Hell..we have been lied to from the Oval Office by the most powerfully men in the world for years. Should we not expect the US President to be a credible source?? (Don't answer that..Haha)

I am a credible source ..if I decided to tell people I ate dinner with Bigfoot last night should everyone just nod and believe me? (He has impeccable table manners BTW)

I am just cautioning that just because he is supposedly ex military..he is wearing a suit and he speaks well doesn't mean it happened.

There is a woman who posts on youtube Colleen Thomas..she talks about being a liason for some alien race called the plesians or something..she is well spoken..well thought out and just flat out respectable looking. She goes on and on about their knowledge and their advanced technology and all sorts of stuff. Then she claims that they have informed her of some upcoming cataclysm ..they have told her how to survive it and how to prepare for it..and for 25 dollars she will share this knowledge with you..she did afterall spend her valuable time researching all of this and it wouldn't be right just to GIVE this information away. She fits what some would call "credible". Please look her up and give me your take on her. (You very well could know her already) I have a friend who believes everything she says and the poor guys lives in fear!!

Whatever man, everything I said about the Nuke/UFOs has been researched and documented. You can look up every last one of those guys military records. But you won't, because no matter what evidence you or other people see, you’re just too afraid to admit that it may just be true.

[nakobass]

OK, let's just say Aliens are real and are visiting Earth, and that is general public knowledge. How would it effect your life personally? Would you question your religion? Would it effect your life in a positive or negative way?

Personally I would hope humanity would treat each other a little better if we knew about all the different races and cultures in the universe.
Humanilty could learn all the vast knowledge and wisdom that is out there.
Basicly, I believe the acceptance of intelligent alien life in the universe would ultimately improve the state of humanity.

[Fedup23]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Whatever man, everything I said about the Nuke/UFOs has been researched and documented. You can look up every last one of those guys military records. But you won't, because no matter what evidence you or other people see, you’re just too afraid to admit that it may just be true.

You don't have to be so defensive..I don't believe the things that you do..anyone that doesn't is labeled "afraid" in your eyes ? That's the common fall back against those who don't necessarily believe...oh..you are just afraid..great.. should we label the believers all half wits and gullible followers? I don't think so.

Don't play the "researched and documented" game.Of coure its documented and researched..you showed us the video. Now go and produce the military document that says "researched, documented and proven"

Im not trying to bust you onions..I just have a different view and I prefer my proof to be actual proof..if that makes sense.

I would also caution you on taking anything a career military with a chest full of metals says as the gospel.

Cheers.

[D00MTR0N]

like I said before,proof is the only truth.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by Fedup23

I am just relaying my experience.

I don't automatically believe whatever I hear no matter what the forum or who is the one saying it. Hell..we have been lied to from the Oval Office by the most powerfully men in the world for years. Should we not expect the US President to be a credible source?? (Don't answer that..Haha)

I am a credible source ..if I decided to tell people I ate dinner with Bigfoot last night should everyone just nod and believe me? (He has impeccable table manners BTW)

I am just cautioning that just because he is supposedly ex military..he is wearing a suit and he speaks well doesn't mean it happened.

There is a woman who posts on youtube Colleen Thomas..she talks about being a liason for some alien race called the plesians or something..she is well spoken..well thought out and just flat out respectable looking. She goes on and on about their knowledge and their advanced technology and all sorts of stuff. Then she claims that they have informed her of some upcoming cataclysm ..they have told her how to survive it and how to prepare for it..and for 25 dollars she will share this knowledge with you..she did afterall spend her valuable time researching all of this and it wouldn't be right just to GIVE this information away. She fits what some would call "credible". Please look her up and give me your take on her. (You very well could know her already) I have a friend who believes everything she says and the poor guys lives in fear!!

Honest to god, I have seen Bigfoot, a few times. Big fucker, obviously, and scared to the tits of any other humanoid. Also that woman is obviously a scam. I can see Dr. Doom doing something like that. "Send me 25 dollars and Dr Doom shall spare you, maybe". Sorry but if she was legit, she would want to help people survive for free.

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Whatever man, everything I said about the Nuke/UFOs has been researched and documented. You can look up every last one of those guys military records. But you won't, because no matter what evidence you or other people see, you’re just too afraid to admit that it may just be true.

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Originally Posted by Fedup23

You don't have to be so defensive..I don't believe the things that you do..anyone that doesn't is labeled "afraid" in your eyes ? That's the common fall back against those who don't necessarily believe...oh..you are just afraid..great.. should we label the believers all half wits and gullible followers? I don't think so.

Don't play the "researched and documented" game.Of coure its documented and researched..you showed us the video. Now go and produce the military document that says "researched, documented and proven"

Im not trying to bust you onions..I just have a different view and I prefer my proof to be actual proof..if that makes sense.

I would also caution you on taking anything a career military with a chest full of metals says as the gospel.

Cheers.

I agree with Fedup23, nakobass. You don't have to be so defensive. You and I are aloud to believe in what we want to, and Fedup can believe what he likes too. Doesn't make any one of us right, or wrong. I like to try and keep an open mind, on both sides.

[nakobass]

I'm just feb up with all the lies. There is real evidence out there but people just dismiss it, These guys just want people and the government to take this seriously and investigate these claims, but they never do. They always give some lame excuse about the event.

Phoenix Lights/Flares- Flares do not move in unison like that
Roswell/ Crash Test Dummies-were created after the Roswell incident
The UFO over Chicago O'Hare airport/Weather Phenomenon-pilots, crew people, travelers all saw the thing, and were told to shut up about it.
The UFOs over New York/ Weather Balloons-Weather Ballons don't move in formation.
UFO landing/Nothing happens- After nothing grows on the spot where the UFO landed, and animals go out of their way to avoid those areas.

Multiple Eye Witnesses saw these events. No reasonable person could possible dismiss that.

Mexico, The UK, Russia, Brazil, Spain, just to name a few have all release their UFO records to the public. This is happening all over the world.
I'm sorry if I sound passonate about this, but the flatout denial from the US Government and People who don't even consider the evidence pisses me off.

If that's not fear I don't know what is. This stuff make me afraid that's why I want to know about it.

[CLASSIFIED]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Mexico, The UK, Russia, Brazil, Spain, just to name a few have all release their UFO records to the public.

They have!?

What do their records say?

Is the existence of alien life fact there?

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

They have!?

What do their records say?

Is the existence of alien life fact there?

They have reports, videos, eye witness testimony. Hell, Mexico have a video taken by a military infrared camera of UFOs in formation. They see these things all the time, and just like most reasonable people want to know what the hell is going on.

[CLASSIFIED]

I think greys are humans from the future who no longer reproduce sexualy.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by CLASSIFIED

I think greys are humans from the future who no longer reproduce sexualy.

Forget the alien side for a moment, If someone can explain to me why people from all over the world, from mulitiple countries are seeing these UFOs, I will honestly consider it if it's a possble explaination, but no one not the US Government, or Any Skeptic has come even close so far.

[Tiberius]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Forget the alien side for a moment, If someone can explain to me why people from all over the world, from mulitiple countries are seeing these UFOs, I will honestly consider it if it's a possble explaination, but no one not the US Government, or Any Skeptic has come even close so far.

Didn't you say a few posts or pages back, that the American government made a deal with The Greys over nukes and tech or something? With that statement alone, your government will probably have to keep it all hush hush, seeing the deal is with YOUR government, not with others. So maybe the American government has something to hide on behalf of the greys because they KNOW. While other countries see these UFO's and governments share what they know because they do not have a deal with anyone to keep things hush hush. Government is hiding it for a reason, probably to protect their own ass. Greys help with tech, U.S government turn a blind eye to abductions. As say, my government has no such deal with the aliens and any sightings and reports are made public to our people because of, you know, no deal with the alien race.

[Fedup23]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Honest to god, I have seen Bigfoot, a few times. Big fucker, obviously, and scared to the tits of any other humanoid.

when I said I had dinner with him.. I didnt mean I didnt believe in him.. just that it was highly unlikely that he would share a meal with me.

I am not a total unbeliever.. I just throw up red flags when someones "proof" is the fact that yes..someone said this is what happened and another person wrote it down in a report.

I am the Queen of England.. quick.. someone research it and document that I said it! Then get me some tea and crumpets! I kid.. I kid.

But I guess those kinds of "truths" have been happening since people started writing things down.

[CLASSIFIED]

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Originally Posted by nakobass

Forget the alien side for a moment, If someone can explain to me why people from all over the world, from mulitiple countries are seeing these UFOs, I will honestly consider it if it's a possble explaination, but no one not the US Government, or Any Skeptic has come even close so far.

Top Secret US Govt. Aircraft.

[nakobass]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Didn't you say a few posts or pages back, that the American government made a deal with The Greys over nukes and tech or something? With that statement alone, your government will probably have to keep it all hush hush, seeing the deal is with YOUR government, not with others. So maybe the American government has something to hide on behalf of the greys because they KNOW. While other countries see these UFO's and governments share what they know because they do not have a deal with anyone to keep things hush hush. Government is hiding it for a reason, probably to protect their own ass. Greys help with tech, U.S government turn a blind eye to abductions. As say, my government has no such deal with the aliens and any sightings and reports are made public to our people because of, you know, no deal with the alien race.

You have a point, I forgot about what Paul Hellyer said.

Former Canadian Minister of Defence has joined forces with three Non-governmental organizations to ask the Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on with Alien "ET" Civilizations. Paul Hellyer, Canada's Defence Minister from 1963-67 under Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Prime Minister Lester Pearson, publicly stated: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."