[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by neatogecko

Nice old school team. Wasn't that pretty much the exact team roster for a while in the late 80's early 90's?

Im just glad to finally note that I'm not the only one who liked the early 90's avengers because both she & Jason had some of the folks from there listed. This will be a tough call though. especially the MOE which it seems folks are forgetting about

[bmorr]

im waiting for someone to add stingray lol.

[cabrican]

gotta go with the core classics:
cap
thor
iron man
hawkeye
vision
scarlet witch
black panther

Reserves:
jack of hearts
wonder man
beast
ms marvel

masters of evil:
viper/madame hydra (evil hot chicks can lead anybody)
bullseye (crazy people are scary)
abomination (obligatory muscle)
mad thinker (will invent crazy shit just to impress the team's hot leader)
super skrull (hes like a swiss army knife)
spiral (teleportation is cool)

[rustyrob]

I'm sorry but if Doom is on your MOE team and not the leader that would not work. And why would someone like magneto follow kingpin?

Captain America - leader
Hercules-god
Valkyrie-air support
Winter soilder-assassin
Beast-brain
Forge-tech

MOE

Dr Doom-leader
Juggernaut-muscle
dark beast-brain
Kraven-assassin
Bullseye-range support
Enchantres-god


Would be interesting seeing dark beast leaven and bullseye together

[Optimus Vader]

Ok, I'm changing my leader from Doc Ock to Doom. I didn't know Doom was a MoE.

..and Doc is still on the team, he's taking Zemo's spot. Later, Baron.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by KingLouie731

Im just glad to finally note that I'm not the only one who liked the early 90's avengers because both she & Jason had some of the folks from there listed. This will be a tough call though. especially the MOE which it seems folks are forgetting about

Yeah- I almost went with an all new concept based on that run-
A Gatherers version of the MOE- Led by an alternate Proctor to the one Sersi killed. Their motivation is that the Avengers on their worlds failed to stop some threat that destroyed their world- one guy would be from Secret Invastion, one from AvX, one from Fear Itself, Doomwar etc.
Their motivation is also survival- they cant live long without having to replace their counterpart- and they feel they deserve to live!

Tony Stark would need to assemble a team to stop them- But since the Gatherers target their 616 conterparts, he cant use the same people against them- it would be too likely he'd lose his team.

So he has to get heroes as good as the Gatherers to stop them- an armored up Reed Richards to stop evil Iron Man for example, or Ares to stop Gatherer Hercules, Doctor Strange to stop Gatherer Brother Voodoo, Iron Fist to stop Gatherer Luke Cage, etc.
It would be an emotionally wrenching storyline and I'd have the whole thing be set up as a game between the Grandmaster and a mystery opponent that would be a suprise reveal in the final issue of the run.

[rustyrob]

^^ wouldn't ares get murdered by Hercules? Thor might be a better choice. But over all very good premise

[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Yeah- I almost went with an all new concept based on that run-
A Gatherers version of the MOE- Led by an alternate Proctor to the one Sersi killed. Their motivation is that the Avengers on their worlds failed to stop some threat that destroyed their world- one guy would be from Secret Invastion, one from AvX, one from Fear Itself, Doomwar etc.
Their motivation is also survival- they cant live long without having to replace their counterpart- and they feel they deserve to live!

Tony Stark would need to assemble a team to stop them- But since the Gatherers target their 616 conterparts, he cant use the same people against them- it would be too likely he'd lose his team.

So he has to get heroes as good as the Gatherers to stop them- an armored up Reed Richards to stop evil Iron Man for example, or Ares to stop Gatherer Hercules, Doctor Strange to stop Gatherer Brother Voodoo, Iron Fist to stop Gatherer Luke Cage, etc.
It would be an emotionally wrenching storyline and I'd have the whole thing be set up as a game between the Grandmaster and a mystery opponent that would be a suprise reveal in the final issue of the run.

and I would buy it still knowing the ending anxiously awaiting how you go about revealing it. the gathers in mind were poised to become the next MOE, or at least I thought so at the time. especially because the switched out vision and no one knew and it is too bad no one has thought to revive them in some form kinda like you are talking about you know

[1andonly5711]

OK ANYteam you guys pic is fine u can have villians as good guys and good guys as villians. knowing doomtron doom will be the leader of good guys.

[shortysben]

I was gonna say "pics or these never happened!"

[1andonly5711]

ill do a rating in the morning

[rustyrob]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Masters of Evil

1. Gorgon as leader- he's crazy badass and a nihilist to boot.
2. Salome (points if you know who this crazy evil bitch is- a former Sorcerer Supreme that Doc Strange chopped the arms and legs off of and banished. Yeah, you read that right.)
3. Piabok the Power Skrull -looking for payback on humanity and the Inhumans.
4. Alkhema- evil Ultron made robot with Mockingbird's personality (though not memories).
5. Maximus- having teetered back into evil insanity, he's the team's big brain and the motivation for Crystal's Avengers membership.
6.) Jamie Madrox- one of his duplicates caught and turned evil by Salome, and outside the original's control but with the same powers- an instant army to overwhelm the Avengers- completely uncaring if his deplicates get killed.


I'd have the Avengers assemble in response to the MoE for a change, with Iron Man choosing the best counters to the Masters- Salome and Madrox would be the unknowns to Tony when he selects the team- Madrox being the suprise ending to issue one (he wears a mask prior to the big reveal) and Salome is only known to Sersi from waaay back when they fought- which is why Sersi gets Tony to make the team in the first place.
Salome is the MoE teleporter, Alkhema and Maximus can out-tech even Tony, making him fight uphill for a change, Gorgon is the evil counterpart to the Thing and Quasar's purity.

I will say that by far, this is the most well put together team

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by rustyrob

^^ wouldn't ares get murdered by Hercules? Thor might be a better choice. But over all very good premise

Depends- all the Avengers know the basics of the Gatherer versions, but Gatherers are not just some "Crime Syndicate" knock off- they usually feel justified in their actions- killing their counterparts being the small price of saving a world...but they're really not close to their 616 versions in character- more bitter and ruthless after jumping from reality to reality, gathering members and replacing ones that have been killed.
And to answer your question, it could be that Ares (newly returned from the dead) might accept a loan of 616 Hercules' magical weapons if it meant being able to take down SOME version of his jackass brother! LOL!

Basicly this Gatherer team would be like the Exiles, only instead of having a Quantum Leap premise, they would be intentionally jumping to worlds where the Avengers or X-Men or Defenders had screwed the pooch and the world paid the price for it. They recruit who they can and kill off the rest as the price of failure.
In the story, they'd be suprised that, while pretty damaged from various crossover events and major civilian casualty events (like in Secret Warriors, Genosha, House of M, etc.) the world has barely scraped by...

It would all start with the Gatherers coming through the Nexus of Realities and finding the Defenders there to make them go back....which leads to a very one-sided beatdown (hospitalization) of that crew.

Portal (remember him from Darkhawk?) from A.R.M.O.R. alerts the Avengers and gives them a general breakdown on this Gatherer team (maybe four pages of images with text boxes) leaving the first issue with Vision recruiting the new team.
hmm...definitely want to see an Avengers team led by Vision for a change!

[1andonly5711]

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Originally Posted by rustyrob

I'm sorry but if Doom is on your MOE team and not the leader that would not work. And why would someone like magneto follow kingpin?

see this is just for fun no to be taken so serious. Also doom is on the ff team and not the leader.

[1andonly5711]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

I would have to say This is the Best Thought out Plan for The MOE So I say jason win round 1 for the villians.

Masters of Evil

1. Gorgon as leader- he's crazy badass and a nihilist to boot.
2. Salome (points if you know who this crazy evil bitch is- a former Sorcerer Supreme that Doc Strange chopped the arms and legs off of and banished. Yeah, you read that right.)
3. Piabok the Power Skrull -looking for payback on humanity and the Inhumans.
4. Alkhema- evil Ultron made robot with Mockingbird's personality (though not memories).
5. Maximus- having teetered back into evil insanity, he's the team's big brain and the motivation for Crystal's Avengers membership.
6.) Jamie Madrox- one of his duplicates caught and turned evil by Salome, and outside the original's control but with the same powers- an instant army to overwhelm the Avengers- completely uncaring if his deplicates get killed.


.

I would have to say This is the Best Thought out Plan for The MOE So I say jason win round 1 for the villians. Can you do a nice heros Team Also? Most of the replys had ironman as leader and kinda dont wanna see Heros that are always in the spotlight.

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Originally Posted by bmorr

ive given thought to this a while back, utilizing underused characters for a team up, and their roles to the team

Beta Ray Bill(muscle)
Kid Loki(magic)
X-23(super soldier/mutant)
Jack of Hearts(cosmic)
Franklin Richards(genius)
War Machine(tech)
Rockslide(muscle)
Moon Knight(street level)

I have to say i love this heros team the most These are all second rate heros that you just wouldnt think of as a team. But im wonderings whos the leader? Probly War Machine

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Originally Posted by quinten182

Leader - Deadpool
God - Frog Thor
Aunt May
Jubilee
Justine Hammer
Jonah Jameson

This would be a fun team to see.


So for the The 1st round we have JasonAbbadon Moe vs Bmorr Avengers WIth Aunt May as a side avenger. Round 2 Fight

[1andonly5711]

Round 2

Avengers
1.Punisher Leader
2.Scarlet Witch as God like
3.Silver Surfer
4.Multiple man
5.Thunder Stike
6.Ghost Rider

MOE

1. Modok
2. Doom leader
3. Deadpool
4. The Controler
5. The Wraking Crew
6. Daken

[MADREVJACK]

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Originally Posted by 1andonly5711

OK ANYteam you guys pic is fine u can have villians as good guys and good guys as villians. knowing doomtron doom will be the leader of good guys.

Sounds like a six team Exiles. Challenge accepted!

Exiles:

Victor Von Doom ( the true Dr. Doom, who stopped fighting the FF long ago to explore the time stream. I figure he conquered worlds, fixed them, then moved on by his own choice. Starting the first exiles team by collecting allies to aid him in his quest.)

Magneto ( from a time where prof. X was killed by cyclops in an attempt to take over the academy and run it as a brotherhood collective with his love lady toad, a beautiful girl with the power to transform into a giant toad monster. This magneto also has the joking good nature and genius intellect of 616 Beast, in addition to Omega level Magnetism).

Hulk ( from world war hulk. Gets back to earth and finds its the new Skrull homeworld. Kills many many many skrulls with his warbound in tow. Freed slaves make up his conquering force, and he sits as king of his world. Victor approaches him three earth seconds before a beam of energy from the remaining skrull collective destorys his planet.)

Deadpool ( joined against his will. His home world shot him into space for his crimes and his inability to be destroyed. Tried everything on planet, could not kill this guy. Shot him into space. Deadpool in this version has the collected abilities of hawkeye, bullseye, daredevil, and luke cage. He also has thier voices in his head. Victor gives him a way of quieting the voices in his head, but now he works for Doom, got it? Got it.)

Nocturne the Pheonix ( the abilities of nightcrawler, mystique, nocturne, and the scarlett witch, this nocturne is from the AOA timeline and wears the red checkmark across her right eye. The Pheonix Force found her and they became one. Norturne realized the power she had, and embraced it, completely. She also really loves smoothies.)

The Black Panther Storm. ( in her universe T'calla was killed, and she took the mantle as she was his wife. She has all the fury of the storm inaddition to all the power of the panthers.)

[1andonly5711]

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Originally Posted by MADREVJACK

Sounds like a six team Exiles. Challenge accepted!

Exiles:

Victor Von Doom ( the true Dr. Doom, who stopped fighting the FF long ago to explore the time stream. I figure he conquered worlds, fixed them, then moved on by his own choice. Starting the first exiles team by collecting allies to aid him in his quest.)

Magneto ( from a time where prof. X was killed by cyclops in an attempt to take over the academy and run it as a brotherhood collective with his love lady toad, a beautiful girl with the power to transform into a giant toad monster. This magneto also has the joking good nature and genius intellect of 616 Beast, in addition to Omega level Magnetism).

Hulk ( from world war hulk. Gets back to earth and finds its the new Skrull homeworld. Kills many many many skrulls with his warbound in tow. Freed slaves make up his conquering force, and he sits as king of his world. Victor approaches him three earth seconds before a beam of energy from the remaining skrull collective destorys his planet.)

Deadpool ( joined against his will. His home world shot him into space for his crimes and his inability to be destroyed. Tried everything on planet, could not kill this guy. Shot him into space. Deadpool in this version has the collected abilities of hawkeye, bullseye, daredevil, and luke cage. He also has thier voices in his head. Victor gives him a way of quieting the voices in his head, but now he works for Doom, got it? Got it.)

Nocturne the Pheonix ( the abilities of nightcrawler, mystique, nocturne, and the scarlett witch, this nocturne is from the AOA timeline and wears the red checkmark across her right eye. The Pheonix Force found her and they became one. Norturne realized the power she had, and embraced it, completely. She also really loves smoothies.)

The Black Panther Storm. ( in her universe T'calla was killed, and she took the mantle as she was his wife. She has all the fury of the storm inaddition to all the power of the panthers.)

did you come up with all of that?

[MADREVJACK]

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Originally Posted by 1andonly5711

did you come up with all of that?

Yeah, waiting for my wife and baby to wake.

[1andonly5711]

whos the leader and whos the God

[MADREVJACK]

Doom's party, he leads.

Pheonix Nocturne for god.

[1andonly5711]

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Originally Posted by MADREVJACK

Doom's party, he leads.

Pheonix Nocture for god.

avengers or moe . Also i didnt mean for you to have to come up with a whole story sorry if i did

[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Depends- all the Avengers know the basics of the Gatherer versions, but Gatherers are not just some "Crime Syndicate" knock off- they usually feel justified in their actions- killing their counterparts being the small price of saving a world...but they're really not close to their 616 versions in character- more bitter and ruthless after jumping from reality to reality, gathering members and replacing ones that have been killed.
And to answer your question, it could be that Ares (newly returned from the dead) might accept a loan of 616 Hercules' magical weapons if it meant being able to take down SOME version of his jackass brother! LOL!

Basicly this Gatherer team would be like the Exiles, only instead of having a Quantum Leap premise, they would be intentionally jumping to worlds where the Avengers or X-Men or Defenders had screwed the pooch and the world paid the price for it. They recruit who they can and kill off the rest as the price of failure.
In the story, they'd be suprised that, while pretty damaged from various crossover events and major civilian casualty events (like in Secret Warriors, Genosha, House of M, etc.) the world has barely scraped by...

It would all start with the Gatherers coming through the Nexus of Realities and finding the Defenders there to make them go back....which leads to a very one-sided beatdown (hospitalization) of that crew.

Portal (remember him from Darkhawk?) from A.R.M.O.R. alerts the Avengers and gives them a general breakdown on this Gatherer team (maybe four pages of images with text boxes) leaving the first issue with Vision recruiting the new team.
hmm...definitely want to see an Avengers team led by Vision for a change!

sounds like a great miniseries in makings but marvel would try to capitalize until they ran why it would be popular into the ground by making it a regular series

[Jason Abbadon]

Avengers
Nova(Leader)- Richard Rider as Nova Prime, not that lameass kid. Flight, insane energy projection, super strength Vision this is his current and pre-Disassembled incarnation with emotions and real fire to his actions.
Phobos (God of Fear) Sure he's only thirteen, but you should see him mow through the Secret Service...and Norman Osborn....dozens of Hydra goons....an XBox...He's as great a warrior as his father -with both a magic katana and bigtime fear powers.
Beta Ray Bill- He's a horsey Thor that aint afraid to just kill a bitch!
Captain Britian- He flies and is a powerhouse, great with technology and insanely popular- access to MI-13 intel.
Moondragon- Marvel's mightiest telepath and one of the top martial artists too!
Box- Madison Jeffries finally steps back up to the plate and into the Box armor- with Madison on board, tech is covered and he might be the cure for Carnage.

Best of all, none of them have ever really worked with any of the others.

Masters Of Evil
The Mandarin- Ruthless, master planner, top martial artist and ten different powers when used together has destroyed a mountain range!
Malekith The Accursed (God and King of the Dark Elves) Bigtime magic and shape changing- total evil prick, but having fun.
Hybrid- unspeakable horror with professor X levels of telepathy plus telekinesis...wants a stable of super-powered females to breed with.
Carnage- he's in it for the same reason he does everything- to kill a ton of people- and because Mandarin installed a sonic bomb in his chest that would kill host and symbiote.
Goliath- Erick Josten's worst traits brought to the fore by Mandarin and Hybrid's mental manipulations- raw ionic-energy muscle, property insurer nightmare- like Wonder Man but fifty times bigger and half as smart.
Dark Beast- evil as hell version of Hank McCoy, promised the collected genetic samples in the Avengers medical database to take back to the AoA universe

This would definitely be a biiiiiig uphill battle for the assembled heroes (hell, for the entirety of the Avengers!) but hopefully the MoE's natural inclination to screw each other over will even things some.

[MADREVJACK]

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Originally Posted by 1andonly5711

avengers or moe . Also i didnt mean for you to have to come up with a whole story sorry if i did

It was a completely self generated labor of love. I like to add story it is fun to write and read.

That team was my pick for an Exiles team working in the interest of preserving and rebuilding broke timelines and worlds. During my daughter's nap Ill post my evil Exiles team line up. They are the opposite in intent. They destroy, kill, and maim worlds and timelines for fun and out of hate.

I went with Exiles because you said any team.