[AndyCR75]

Adult Swim Video : Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job! : Tiny Hats!

[behindthemask]

not sure what I'm looking at the vid doesn't work because I'm in Canada.. even says so with the gay pop up... nice post I guess.?

[nexxone05]

Lmao

[WindsofHorus]

if you keep them MOC they're still not wearing hats tho!

[quinten182]

To me, moc is for the "collector only" that enjoys money/hoarding and that doesn't:

a. love their inner child or their own childhood

b. enjoy being a true fan of toys/articulation/paint/etc.

c. the line of toys itself and their stories

I don't mean to offend, but that's what it's always seemed like to me. :P
With that being said, I have a few things on card simply because of value and what I paid for it. My stuff is moc only if it's a double or I paid a much higher amount of money than retail (and that's still only true in a few cases.) For example, I want to know if I'm hurting for money someday that having spent 70 bucks on a sealed ML deadpool can still net me at least 70 when I need it. Had I bought it for 9.99, he'd be fighting doop all day long. ;P

[roadrevenge]

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Originally Posted by quinten182

To me, moc is for the "collector only" that enjoys money/hoarding and that doesn't:

a. love their inner child or their own childhood

b. enjoy being a true fan of toys/articulation/paint/etc.

c. the line of toys itself and their stories

I don't mean to offend, but that's what it's always seemed like to me. :P
With that being said, I have a few things on card simply because of value and what I paid for it. My stuff is moc only if it's a double or I paid a much higher amount of money than retail (and that's still only true in a few cases.) For example, I want to know if I'm hurting for money someday that having spent 70 bucks on a sealed ML deadpool can still net me at least 70 when I need it. Had I bought it for 9.99, he'd be fighting doop all day long. ;P

Im a MOC Collector, and I dont do it for the hope of them being worth something down the road. I have alot of collections of toys/series that are worth nothing, that are vintage, and I know they were worth nothing to get. I got them cause I love the toy. I also love to display them MOC because all that work was done to create all that artwork on the box that it deserves to be displayed as well. I do admit it would take up alot less room if I were to remove them from package, but I prefer it this way. Also, say like in 20 years from now, showing your kids/grandchildren/etc the stuff that you grew up with, in package would show more of a history on the toy.

Anyways thats my thought.

I just dont like to be labeled a MOC Collector be I only like hoarding and money, thats just rude.

[Marv0850]

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Originally Posted by quinten182

To me, moc is for the "collector only" that enjoys money/hoarding and that doesn't:

a. love their inner child or their own childhood

b. enjoy being a true fan of toys/articulation/paint/etc.

c. the line of toys itself and their stories

I don't mean to offend, but that's what it's always seemed like to me. :P
With that being said, I have a few things on card simply because of value and what I paid for it. My stuff is moc only if it's a double or I paid a much higher amount of money than retail (and that's still only true in a few cases.) For example, I want to know if I'm hurting for money someday that having spent 70 bucks on a sealed ML deadpool can still net me at least 70 when I need it. Had I bought it for 9.99, he'd be fighting doop all day long. ;P

I dunno man can't say I agree with you here. To me it's just the difference between the dudes who grew up taking excellent care of their toys and the dudes who liked getting them out in the mud!

Some people just like to make sure their stuff stays as flawless as possible.. other people just feel I have to enjoy it while I can. It's differing opinions.. and anyone collecting toys is NOT doing it for the money, it's not really the gold mine that many collectors believe it to be. Value is subjective to opinion.

Not a MOC collector btw, bust them toys out and POSE EM! YEAH!!

[DogFashionDisco]

I keep some MOC, and just as many are opened up and displayed or eventually given to my friend's kids. last week I ripped open a rare Iron Man and gave it to my friend's kid, and he kindly said, "Thank you". Totally worth it. Personally though, I really like some of the packaging that goes into these figures, and that is a strong motivator to keep them sealed. As a kid, I'd bury a lot of my figures in the backyard of my house and really piss off my dad when he ran them over with the lawn mower, so to each their own I guess.

[trebleshot]

I tend to open most things I buy, but there are some that I will keep MISB/MOSC (usually involving duplicates or minor remolds/redecos). And for the toys that have resealable packaging (i.e. convention toys), I will hang on to all that and keep them that way.

Even with the ones I keep sealed, I never do it with the intention of selling it later. Collecting is my hobby and my collection is purely for my own enjoyment.

My advice to any collector is never buy them for the sole purpose of their once and future monetary worth. Toys today aren't like antiques. The packages will fade, collect dust and yellow. The toys will discolor, degrade, and disintegrate eventually.

And the secondary market is a fluid and fickle beast. Sure, there are some toys that only get more valuable the older they get. But those are rare and with good reason. Chances are, any toy you buy at retail won't get you very much on the secondary market unless you catch the eye of a wealthy, but ignorant, toy buyer.

[Shawn Woodbeck]

I keep all of mine MOC, in plastic cases and then in big rubbermaid totes to help protect against dust and anything else - namely my 3 sons. My collection is also for my enjoyment as well.

[pud333]

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Originally Posted by quinten182

To me, moc is for the "collector only" that enjoys money/hoarding and that doesn't:

a. love their inner child or their own childhood

b. enjoy being a true fan of toys/articulation/paint/etc.

c. the line of toys itself and their stories

I don't necessarily agree with this line of thinking. Some people just like to keep things MOC. I used to be MOC collector. I would buy one to open, then one to keep MOC. I stopped doing this for most things (there are few things I will keep MOC now) because a) I realized I was basically doubling my toy spending by buying two of everything. b) I had no space to store MOC boxes.

The only things I will collect MOC now are some GI Joes (only the 25th anniversary line, since I love the card art), and the odd SDCC item.

[thechris]

For me, I collected MOC mainly as a hoarding trait. I started feeling claustrophobic, though, and realized I got much more satisfaction from removing the toys from the packaging. I love the artwork on the boxes but with the web, I can just google the images of the packaging. Now I try to keep package hoarding to a minimum. I keep some that look especially nice, but I can honestly count it on one hand now. I've got a ridiculous amount of G1 Transformers packaging though that I have to either give away or throw out. The only ones I'd consider keeping are probably the ones that came with my G1 Jetfires. I also have a giant collection of the G1 book reissues that came with a Japanese booklet. The boxes were fold out window boxes. There was a collectible nature to them. I have to say that out of all my collectibles, the Transformers are the dumbest ones to keep sealed. The very nature of the figure is to transform them so I feel logically compelled to unpackage those more than anything else.

[thechris]

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Originally Posted by behindthemask

not sure what I'm looking at the vid doesn't work because I'm in Canada.. even says so with the gay pop up... nice post I guess.?

Yeah, I can't view it either. Love how the pre-video advertisement still plays, though. You sit through that just to be told you can't view the actual video. Nice.

[cellardoor]

Hilarious!
I love that video.
If I had a huge amount of cash i'd love to make a series of videos of me getting AFA 9.0 graded Star Wars Vinyl cape jawas and tearing them out of their hermetically sealed packets and giving them to toddlers.
If anyone wants to know why they pay over the odds for new toys it's because of this idea that toys have inherent value beyond manufacturing cost.
A toy's value is in how much you like it and what it actually means to you and that varies depending on where you're coming from as a collector.
I am definitely indulging the 10 year old that still exists in my mind. I appreciate toys by getting hands on. Some appreciate just looking, and that's great, but it doesn't make sense to me at all!
It's a toy, not a picture. Why not just print out a load of high resolution pictures of packaging and pin them on a wall. It'll save you a ton of money!

[atomicsmurf]

I collect MOC because I enjoy the packaging AND the toy. To me every time I look at my MOC figures I get an "OOooo..." feeling like the first time I saw it hanging on the pegs at the store. MOC is always fresh and new, unbroken, untouched, 100% complete, and in the original display it came in. I display the package as much as the figure, btw. That's what MOC is all about to me. And I appreciate the paint apps, and the sculpt (it’s why I collect DCD too) very much IN the package. In fact, I nitpick paint apps and always try to get the best ones.

That's what MOC is all about for me. It's always NEW, and brings me enjoyment like that first time I snagged it at the store.

Having said all that, I totally get why a majority of folks open their toys. My inner-kid would have Christmas in July if I went through everything and tore them open, posed them, and took pictures. I've even given in to temptation a few times with that.

So, I guess to each his/her own. Do what makes you happy.

[Screamer52488]

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Originally Posted by pud333

I don't necessarily agree with this line of thinking. Some people just like to keep things MOC. I used to be MOC collector. I would buy one to open, then one to keep MOC. I stopped doing this for most things (there are few things I will keep MOC now) because a) I realized I was basically doubling my toy spending by buying two of everything. b) I had no space to store MOC boxes.

The only things I will collect MOC now are some GI Joes (only the 25th anniversary line, since I love the card art), and the odd SDCC item.

This basically describes me too. I was mostly MOC because I liked the art or the way a figure looked inthe package until I started running out of room to store things. It was hard to change but realized I did enjoy the figure a little more fiddling with it and possing it on a shelf with others. I now will cut them out carefully and save the card backings so I can still keep the great art without taking up space. Especially the MU, I love the comic art on the front of those. I still battle with the old MOC collector inside me though, currently with the Batman legacy figures I just got. They look great on card but I'm iching to free them. It's an old habbit to break.

[scottmurdock]

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Originally Posted by quinten182

To me, moc is for the "collector only" that enjoys money/hoarding and that doesn't:

a. love their inner child or their own childhood

b. enjoy being a true fan of toys/articulation/paint/etc.

c. the line of toys itself and their stories

A little rough there bud (hence the caveat, lol). I have a lot of loose stuff from my youth but I've kept a lot of my recent purchases MOC/NIB especially the MU line and SDCC exclusives mainly because the packaging makes for great display items. Plus MOC/NIB makes for nice gifts especially for the younger generation of nerds. Not hating, just putting in my 2 cents.

[M3T4L V1KING]

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Originally Posted by behindthemask

not sure what I'm looking at the vid doesn't work because I'm in Canada.. even says so with the gay pop up... nice post I guess.?

I feel your pain, my friend.

[Boba Fettuccini]

I liked keeping it all MOC until about 6 months ago, when I realized how much space it took up. I have a few Star Wars: ROTS clone troopr variants on card, and the entire first wave of the POTF series. Other than that, I don't bother anymore, because high-articulation action figures just beg to posed on the shelf and occasionally played with. When I have kids, I want to be able to take em off the shelf and play with them... in the box, you just can't do that.

[behindthemask]

If I'm on a hunt and find doubles or what I consider rare items I'm starting to keep them MOC especially if it's a variant or color change, I'll try and open the regular and keep the variant mint. Half the reason though I'm doing it is my displaycase getting full lol.

[synapse17]

I hate that show.

[Colder Soldier]

The majority of my figures have hats, helmets, or masks, and if not I can quickly find them one. the guy in that show was just ill-prepared and downright irresponsible.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by cellardoor

Hilarious!
I love that video.
If I had a huge amount of cash i'd love to make a series of videos of me getting AFA 9.0 graded Star Wars Vinyl cape jawas and tearing them out of their hermetically sealed packets and giving them to toddlers.

HELL YEAH.
That whole "grading" thing is the biggest scam anyway- a thing's value is based on both the rarity of the thing and the desire of the buyer for that thing- not some asshat's paid-for and certificated opinion.

But if someone wants o keep their toys sealed, it's their thing, and everyone has their own "thing", be it knitting sweaters or collecting action figures- no one can judge anyone else.

Besides, one of the best looking collections I've ever seen was a guy that hung all the old Batman animated series figures along the top of the walls in his house- in order! They were like three deep by the time the line became crappy all repaints.

Personally, I'm kinda in-between. I have my figs lined up on these narrow little ledges from Target- they're intended for pictures and just screw right into the wall.
I always wanted to have that room from the Original Clash of the Titans where Zues had little alcoves for action figure-sized statues of each mortal.
Zues was the original Arker.

[perrych]

Here is how I look at it: in the box, its not really a toy; it has the potential for being a toy, but sealed up it is just a collectible or statue - to be seen but not touched. Many toys you can't even see all that the figure comes with left in the package. It can be displayed, yes, but it can't be enjoyed to the same degree. Taking a figure out of the package requires a greater responsibility on the person because pieces can be lost and, if displayed, it is more work to dust and reset the figures.

I appreciate the desire to keep the toy in the original box for the artwork and the sense of its original state, and I respect anyone who holds onto a figure MOC for dozens of years without a thought of selling it. But it's not really a toy if it is always sealed up.

[martymcfly160]

i buy doubles or even triples of what i really like, so i guess i fit in all categories