[perrych]

I get higher prices and reduced articulation when Hasbro has to pay for an actor's likeness. But not sure the excuse for Green Goblin or Doc Ock who aren't in the movie.

[DogFashionDisco]

Wow, those are nice. I'm still surprised no Avengers happy meal toys ever came out.

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Originally Posted by uberlad

Also, those happy meal he-man toys kick the butt of the dark knight figs.

[NoodleChow]

all i ask from marvel movie figures moving forward is a waist swivel. i'm ok with swivel hinged knees, no ankles or wrists, but at least give us waist swivels. also hoping this doesn't spread towards the MU stuff. puck is sorta shortchanged on that but one could argue that he's small even though yoda and other skinnier and smaller figures get a lot of useful articulation as well.

[bmorr]

I feel like figures today are devolving. In a few years well be right back to POTF articulation. Were getting too close. It all starts with the t crotches. Next to go is the knee articulation.

[Iceman]

The T-crotches are just sad. Why is anyone still using those? It's like the dark ages.

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Originally Posted by jjk1120

I don't really mind the Avengers line. It could use a LITTLE more articulation, but I'm ok with what they did.

If they had put in wrist articulation I wouldn't complain at all considering it's a movie line. One odd bit is that they added wrist articulation to the Ultimates Cap for the Avengers line (he's the one that comes with harness/gun shield).

[MrAmericanIdiot]

I agree with uberlad, I think sometimes we collectors have to take a back seat to kids. A lot of the stuff is pretty neat for kids. My only gripe is the price. But hasbro does give give collectors awesome stuff, I mean look at the 6 inch Avengers or ultimate hawkeye and Thor.

[tlasjr]

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Originally Posted by 1andonly5711

the amazing spiderman ultra figure is awsome

I know people love this figure but...why. I found one tonight and it was goign to loose out to the terrible Bane and Lizard figures. The joints looked awkward and the figure altogether too small.
I'd love to be wrong. What am I missing?

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Originally Posted by uberlad

I usually get slammed for my opinions on stuff like this, but I'm going to throw it out there anyway. I don't mind reduced articulation on movie figures and sub-lines for a few reasons:

I get all of the nerd-rage, I really do. I'd be lying if I didn't admit I get it sometimes myself, but I think long term these are minor tribulations to deal with that help keep everything else we love going.

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Originally Posted by uberlad

Also, those happy meal he-man toys kick the butt of the dark knight figs.
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I agree fully with you. I think there needs to be a balance. For example the Microman figures are super articulated but suck as action figures.
The He man happy meal toys are a perfect example. good looking figures with basic articulation.

[perrych]

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Originally Posted by tlasjr

I know people love this figure but...why. I found one tonight and it was goign to loose out to the terrible Bane and Lizard figures. The joints looked awkward and the figure altogether too small.
I'd love to be wrong. What am I missing?

Well, it has basically all the articulation of the SDCC Spider-Man so it can be posed in most any classic Spidey look. It would have been great if it had waist articulation on top of the Hasbro torso swivel, but it works. Not the best Spider-Man but certainly the best one out of this movie line. And at Walmart its not a bad buy - about $8.

About the appearance - its really only the movie paint job/design that detracts from the figure. It is certainly a step up from some of the limbs on a Showdown Spidey. The neck articulation is perfect for the poses on this figure as well.

[Saint Phe]

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Originally Posted by perrych

Well, it has basically all the articulation of the SDCC Spider-Man so it can be posed in most any classic Spidey look. It would have been great if it had waist articulation on top of the Hasbro torso swivel, but it works. Not the best Spider-Man but certainly the best one out of this movie line. And at Walmart its not a bad buy - about $8.

About the appearance - its really only the movie paint job/design that detracts from the figure. It is certainly a step up from some of the limbs on a Showdown Spidey. The neck articulation is perfect for the poses on this figure as well.

Does he have the new Avengers style hip joints, or the old XMO/Iron Man hip joints?

[name]

its a by product of how they are choosing to cut costs in order to make the most product. they seem to be all over this "make one mold that will last us 5 years and 20 characters" strategy in all their main stay lines. anything that doesn't follow this requires specific tooling, which of course isnt ideal for a company set up to product modular figures.

some other companies with the marvel license are actually getting much better then they previously where

[Optimus Vader]

In the past two days I've purchased the Avengers 3.75" Black Widow and The Amazing Spiderman Ultra Poseable figures and they're both just as articulated and detailed as the best MU molds. If they're going to continue MU as a collectors line and use the movie lines as dumbed down kid lines, while throwing in a collectors grade figure or two I see no issue with it. As long as MU doesn't go backwards, but I don't see that happening any time soon. I think they'd cancel them before doing that.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by megajonzero

More money + less articulation= fail

OR it's "Retailors demanded less cost per figure while raising the price they sell them at".
That would lead to cutting articulation to save money- and we've seen TRU sell MU figs for two dollars more than Target or Wal Mart for several waves now, so it's not implausible.

The Spidey line is obviously geared towards younger kids- just as the last Spidey line was- and that line also had limited articulation in some figs- the old line had hip swivels but no knee joints, the new line has knee joints but T-Crotchrot.

Pick your posion.

We'll never really know.

[tlasjr]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

and we've seen TRU sell MU figs for two dollars more than Target or Wal Mart for several waves now, so it's not implausible.
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My local TRU is running an expiriment and increased their prices above other TRU's to see if anything still sells. Target did the same thing with their stores IN Boston. There are litteraly stores a mile from each other with different prices.

[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

OR it's "Retailors demanded less cost per figure while raising the price they sell them at".
That would lead to cutting articulation to save money- and we've seen TRU sell MU figs for two dollars more than Target or Wal Mart for several waves now, so it's not implausible.

The Spidey line is obviously geared towards younger kids- just as the last Spidey line was- and that line also had limited articulation in some figs- the old line had hip swivels but no knee joints, the new line has knee joints but T-Crotchrot.

Pick your posion.

We'll never really know.

Don't worry bro soon Walmart & Target will be catching up with TRU in pricing

[Exodus]

IMO seems like they still do the same villains i.e. for Spider-Man, always Venom, Doc Ock, GG, at least this time they threw in a lizard...but still they need to put more variety in the movie lines if anything. Heroes are almost the same as well...

[synapse17]

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Originally Posted by uberlad

I usually get slammed for my opinions on stuff like this, but I'm going to throw it out there anyway. I don't mind reduced articulation on movie figures and sub-lines for a few reasons:

1) I'm always happy to get new figures. The Spidey subline has given me a ton of badguys I'd otherwise be waiting years for in MU proper. The articulation may be reduced, but I've got a service-able Rhino. I'm cool with that. A lot of times the sculpts are pretty awesome, even with reduced artic. In just a few years, I've amassed a huge MU collection thanks to these sublines, and I really want to keep it going.

2) Movie figures usually get displayed for a short time, and then put away or relegated to a movie-verse shelf where they can all suck together with Movie Deadpool and various IM2 Drones I'll probably never think about again.

3) I see these lines as the gateway lines to get kids hooked onto action figures. I'll deal with T-crotches if it makes the figures more available for the kiddos. (I also understand that while kids like articulation, there's also something to be said for the sturdiness of a figure, too. Reduced articulation helps in that regard for sure.) Then, those kiddos grow into the MU line and keep the main thing I care about going. Hasbro has their strategy, and I think I get it.

4) I understand that a lot of figures aren't meant for me, the middle-aged collector. I'm ok with Hasbro making water splasher toys or scuba spideys, because I know if I was a youngin', I'd love that stuff. I cherrypick from the sub-lines and I'm happy for any gems they throw in like super-articulated figures or obscure costumes (Manga Spidey, Ben Reilly, Spidey Unlimited, etc.). It doesn't have to be about me all the time.

I get all of the nerd-rage, I really do. I'd be lying if I didn't admit I get it sometimes myself, but I think long term these are minor tribulations to deal with that help keep everything else we love going.

How dare you... Just joking.

I agree with you but let me say this. To me a crappy figure is a crappy figure and I simple will not buy it. Maybe if I get a great deal or I know it will never be remade but 95% I'm passing.

How about this for a marketing strategy. So when the movie lines are released you know your going to have all kinds of versions of the main character right.

So why not include at least one version that is true to the movie or comic that is a good all-around. figure. Good articulation,sculpt, paints apps, etc...
Then with all the other versions cosmic power this supper shopper that can all be shit. Take out more articulation for all I care.

Then when making villain in the off lines do the same or at-least make some effort. No T-crotch... Meet us half way. Kids and collectors alike will buy villains because of the overall lack of them in the lines. So if they are good we will all eat them up. And I know that kids care more for the hero but they will need someone to fight.

So here you have something for everyone and Hasbro can still save a bit of cash.

Right know I look at the off lines as a way for Hasbro to save money on something I hope will sell well to kids thereby supplementing the extra coast of the MU line helping to keep it going.

But I really believe if Hasbro makes these kinds of smart choices the overall acceptance of these lines will increase and sale will increase across the board making up for any losses. Plus in the end you have a better product. And that should matter to us all. Including Hasbro.