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Old 09-06-2011, 04:07 PM   #26
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Personally, the way I feel about it is that even if I had a really hard time finding a figure I really wanted, that everyone wants... and two years down the line the toy is reissued somehow... instead of feeling "Crud, now *everyone* has it," I feel "Yay! Now everyone who wants it can get it!"
That's how I feel with the Harley Quinn DCUC reissue. More often than not, I'm on this side of the fence. The only way I was able to get Nightwing, Hawkgirl, and Gentleman Ghost is because they were reissued. Same with the upcoming SC Sinestro reissue.
That "other side of the fence" viewpoint is exactly mine too. I don't spend too much on toys which means I regularly miss out on some figures because I prioritise others. The MU revision cases mean that I get another chance down the road for a not so inflated price. Which is definitely a good thing in my book.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:28 PM   #27
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revision waves are a blessing, especially in a heavily populated region like mine thats full of collectors
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:35 PM   #28
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Yea I think revision boxes are the shit because I started out collecting my mu figures a year late I missed out on a lot in the beginning I caught up with a lot of figures at TOY shows N REVISION packs I jus hope they put out blade n vision again n I wish they would re release goliath in the gigantic battles series lol
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:56 PM   #29
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Umm...I buy toys to play with them. Sure they look nice on the shelf, but what good is a toy if you can't play with it?
Umm..I'm 36.
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Umm..I'm 36.
Any where else that answer still would have gotten you a weird look. Lol.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:13 PM   #31
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I can honestly say that I don't collect in hopes to one day make a profit. I collect because I enjoy it, my children enjoy it as much as I do. Personally I have never paid over retail for any figure in my collection, I almost did once, but patience paid out in the end for that one. Sharing the hobby with my children is worth more than the figures will ever be.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:24 PM   #32
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the whole moc vs. loose thing really bugs me,when I first started collecting I could care less,I opened everything.
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:31 PM   #33
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So, action figure hipster-ism.

"I had the colored Dr. Strange BEFORE everyone else. Now it's so mainstream."
LOL. Yeah I guess that's an apt summary.
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So, action figure hipster-ism.

"I had the colored Dr. Strange BEFORE everyone else. Now it's so mainstream."
you nailed it.
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Well, I'll chime in since you pointed that out, and I'll share my most "expensive" figure too. Right now it seems to be the DCUC TRU Exclusive Batman. I saw one sell for $71 and $60 on the scalper-bay. Heck, I just thought it was a nice looking batman when I originally picked it up.

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I actually found that short-haired Ms. Marvel at my closest TRU, but...I passed on it. I don't really regret it or anything. The hair-style just didn't jive with me. I was surprised to see it there nonetheless. Well, hopefully the next person who finds it actually wants it for collecting/play value/adoration of the character, etc.

Oh, and I just found out that the DC Superheroes Bane I own is supposedly "rare", I hit it up on eBay and people are selling the thing for like $54.99 plus! (I realize that this is a Marvel forum, but just wanted to point this out )
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:20 PM   #36
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the whole moc vs. loose thing really bugs me,when I first started collecting I could care less,I opened everything.
I feel you on that..Im also a star wars collector..i try to buy two of each moc and loose.I just started with MU line this year and its alot better loose IMO. Unless its a SDCC exclusive or if you got two of them lol.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:17 PM   #37
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If it's all about selling them later, then you missed the point in my opinion. I don't want to stir up a hornet's nest but toys were meant to have fun with. I don't "play with my toys" but I do take them out of package and set them up in poses and shit...

There's a reason that I lurk on Toyark these days... It's because looking at high res pictures to me is just as valuable to me as wasting money on things I don't really want to buy. I'd rather do that than do MOC for everything.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:58 PM   #38
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There's nothing more satisfying for me when it comes to collecting than taking the toy out of the box and putting everything together. Especially when it's LEGO or something hugely involved like that but I get the same satisfaction from equiping my action figures with all of their accessories (or applying stickers/decals with great precision), then finally posing them. Unless the packaging is DAMN COOL packaging like the SDCC DC Universe Infinite Heroes Starro Boxset, I am more than happy to take it apart. I'm actually going to get another SDCC IH Starro Boxset simply for this purpose. Nowadays, I rarely have one MOC and one loose unless it's one of these special cases.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:35 PM   #39
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I think resale value is half reliant on the initial investment to begin with and some contributing factors. Picture a company that sells 2 toy lines, the first is $10/figure,with hundreds of different figures,with repaints,revisions and repacking,some being more rare and limited ie case runs. The other toy line sells limited edition figures with short production waves and no rewaves but they cost $100/figure.

On average majority of kids, and collectors will buy only the 10$ figures, some only the $100 figures and other a mix of the 2. Over time not 1 month or 2, I'm talking years maybe 5-10+yrs later go on ebay and see what your collection is worth. Keeping figures MOC does ensure maximum financial return, but it doesn't mean you toy is going to be worth more later on. The value is placed by market trends, collectors and that 1 person who will pay anything to have it. While everybody opened the figures you kept them moc enhancing the value, on the other hand you could have something worth just $10 and you missed out enjoying the toy because you thought it'd be worth more moc. Some figures are just flat our rare, 1/case is always going to draw more $$ then the common spidey/wolvey/im figure. But if you happened to be the only guy who actually has 1 moc it could be worth something waiting long enough. Tge 100$ figures are going to be worth more as they cost more to begin with, were limited and if moc can be worth the sky's limited. and to me this is represented by MU and Hot Toys, MU figures you buy for $10 may turn out to be $50 -100 over time such as blade, vision, warpath, etc... and where as Hottoys is $100-300 range/figure but most of them double in value with in a year or 2 due to demand and limited runs.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:41 PM   #40
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I think there are a lot of misconceptions about toy value. Toys from the 80s are expensive and highly sought after because back then they were just toys. Kids asked their parents for them, they played them until the damn things fell apart or ended up buried in the backyard, and what survived was a miracle. After enough time people started to get nostalgic and when they realized that their favorite childhood toys would be a cool thing to collect, they started hunting for them. Fast forward to 2011, and we are doing the same thing, except there is now a collecting market and people are buying and selling toys as collectibles even when they're still current and readily available.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:06 PM   #41
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I dont collect for profit (mainly for trade ) but If i was to collect toys right now for future value I would focus on the Power Rangers new stuff, Phineas and Ferb, Ben 10, and Lego (which always has value) mainly because those kids right now are opening those toys and playing with them much like we were when we were kids so when they grow up and want to relive their childhood a lot less figures are going to remain MOC because they weren't collectors at that young of an age. Anyway thats my 2 cents on the subject.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:11 PM   #42
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I dont collect for profit (mainly for trade ) but If i was to collect toys right now for future value I would focus on the Power Rangers new stuff, Phineas and Ferb, Ben 10, and Lego (which always has value) mainly because those kids right now are opening those toys and playing with them much like we were when we were kids so when they grow up and want to relive their childhood a lot less figures are going to remain MOC because they weren't collectors at that young of an age. Anyway thats my 2 cents on the subject.
I see where you're going with that idea, but some toy lines won't hold up in the minds of this current generation of kids. I think it is just due to the fact that they are exposed to so much at once, and they can't help but go all ADHD when it comes to entertainment. If I end up having a kid myself, I'll probably just end up giving them the majority of my toys. Hopefully he/she doesn't sell them for crack.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:12 PM   #43
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You guys are all crazy. The real money is in collecting canned foods and the boxes that fabric softener sheets come in. I already saw a 30% return on my investment on eBay as well as from local buyers on Kijiji. You just have to find the right market. Now, toys to me are just toys. I don't see money in them.
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The boxes fabric sheets come in? Damn, I always thought that saving my own pee in little jars was a better investment. I guess its time to switch priorities.
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I see where you're going with that idea, but some toy lines won't hold up in the minds of this current generation of kids. I think it is just due to the fact that they are exposed to so much at once, and they can't help but go all ADHD when it comes to entertainment. If I end up having a kid myself, I'll probably just end up giving them the majority of my toys. Hopefully he/she doesn't sell them for crack.
True that!
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:47 PM   #46
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im reading all the posts and i can see all different type of points being made. so im going to break my post dwn into different sections.

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i dont collect for resale value either, but if anything happen then yes some stuff would have to go. i need a new water heater and dont have enough savings to cover it, then its time for that silver shirt luke cage marvel legend to find a new home.

no matter how u look @ it, the revision cases were gud. true the value of some stuff ppl had in their collection goes dwn, but thats not a problem its its opend anyway. some of us got a second chance to start picking them up, and completiest got ones they were missing from their collection.

sclapers control alot. that batman and robin dcuc dynamic duo 2 pack that hit a few yrs back is going for over $100 on ebay. so is the batgirl azrael pack. we dont like scalpers and thats a givin considering our love, but everyone cant be in every state where every figure hits. so yes sometimes we have to bite the bullet to make our collections whole. they know that and thats why they do it.

no matter how much ppl deny it, we all want that "it" figure. the one that so many ppl want but not a lot have. case in point, crimson death psylocke marvel legend. from what i hear only 10 of those made it out the factory and ive seen 4 of the 10 ppl who have one on youtube. its just human nature to be like that, no matter how much we try not to.

i think thats it lol
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:00 AM   #47
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iLegends73 I know what you mean if funds were lacking I too would sell off parts if not all of my collection I just don't make it a fundamental reason to collect for future monetary value, theres more luck in the stock market or scratchers at that lol
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Well, I'll chime in since you pointed that out, and I'll share my most "expensive" figure too. Right now it seems to be the DCUC TRU Exclusive Batman. I saw one sell for $71 and $60 on the scalper-bay. Heck, I just thought it was a nice looking batman when I originally picked it up.
Heh, that DC Superheroes Bane was actually the FIRST-EVER DC Comics action figure I picked up. It was like $10 at a Stop & Shop store. Think that's when I started going really toy-crazy. The SECOND figure I got after Bane was DCUC Ares I believe. Also at Stop & Shop I might add....

My wallet (and my parent's - hee hee) went downhill from then on.

And to be completely honest here, in the beginning I did start collecting for future monetary value. But after building my collection - I didn't care anymore. I'm never-ever planning to sell my collection, it's been too much fun! Now I'm ashamed at my past mentality about toys....

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Heh, that DC Superheroes Bane was actually the FIRST-EVER DC Comics action figure I picked up. It was like $10 at a Stop & Shop store. Think that's when I started going really toy-crazy. The SECOND figure I got after Bane was DCUC Ares I believe. Also at Stop & Shop I might add....

My wallet (and my parent's - hee hee) went downhill from then on.

And to be completely honest here, in the beginning I did start collecting for future monetary value. But after building my collection - I didn't care anymore. I'm never-ever planning to sell my collection, it's been too much fun! Now I'm ashamed at my past mentality about toys....
Its ok KshatriyaNZ666 this is a safe place, welcome lol the first step is admitting you have a problem
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So at Target I see the original (short-hair) Ms. Marvel, Grey Hulk, etc etc.

Now its been almost 2 years since that Ms. Marvel rolled out. I paid $25 online 8 months ago for it, just assuming that once it's gone, it's gone. (I certainly learned otherwise with revision cases, etc.) BUT, with the re-release of so many figures, the value goes down.

Some of us collect and rip them out of the package and don't care about resale value, but for collectors like myself who one day would consider selling off their collection, it's quite frankly upsetting to see figures once thought gone for good, now readily available at retail.

It is what it is I guess. Rather this than the guy who bought a home for $400K and now cant sell it for $200K.

If you want to invest, might I suggest something a little more mature and adult like stocks, bonds, investing in a company, etc? Not toys that are intended for children. They aren't going to tell people "Oh, we don't want to re-release this figure because it might drive down value for people who think investing in toys is a good strategy". At best you're getting a return comparable to putting your money in a savings account.

You have nobody to blame for that but yourself, especially since it was clear from the beginning that figures are being scattered amongst future cases to keep them in rotation. This would have been clear with the smallest amount of research, another key factor in using anything for an investment.
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