[DarkestKnight]

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Originally Posted by Optimus Vader

Board member "DarkestKnight" should be considered a Green Lantern Toy Guardian for saving MM Hal in his darkest hour by buying him from me.

Thanks!

In Brightest Day....In Blackest Night....No unwanted figure shall escape my sight....


LOL, thanks!

[Snowflakian]

I'm curious what the MM line parallax and the 4'' parallax will look like.

The big claw in the chest one seems like it's that gas cloud version in the trailers. The C&C combined one is interesting too, but he's also getting two single carded figures. Yeah, a parallax with parallax C&C, it's weird to me too. lol.

[Crazy Jetty]

I got the four available MM's today. The aliens are fantastic! But Jordan is a wee bit lower than "meh."
Rot Lop Fan is awesome. He looks great, and his articulation is very useful for his body design.
Tomar Re is fun. He's not great, but he's not a failier. He really nneeded articulation in his heels, and that's my only complaint about him.
Naut Ke Loi is the best of the bunch. His endoskeleton is very interesting. Kinda nervous at first, but fun. I wish he'd come with a flight stand.
Jordan is a huge mess. I'm beyond dissapointed. And it's not that his articulation is cut from the standard DCUC, it's how they are. His joints are as badly designed as the "super articulated" DCIH that appeared at the end of the line. Actually, he's little more than a scaled up version of that joint system.
As lame as it would have been, he'd honestly be better as a repainted generic DCUC figure, with all the movie details just tampoed on.

But then, I really only wanted this line for the aliens that are unlikely to appear in DCUC (Rot Lop Fan, Isamot), as well as that giant Parallax.

[scottmurdock]

The rings that come with the figures seem to be exactly the same as one another, save for the mark number. Do those numbers correspond to anything, e.g. 06210B?

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by scottmurdock

The rings that come with the figures seem to be exactly the same as one another, save for the mark number. Do those numbers correspond to anything, e.g. 06210B?

It's a set production number. It links the ring to the lantern figure it was packaged with.
This is something that's becoming more common.

[scottmurdock]

@jetty: Thanks! You're right though I have a couple whose numbers do not match their figures. I'm sure it's just coincidence.

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by scottmurdock

@jetty: Thanks! You're right though I have a couple whose numbers do not match their figures. I'm sure it's just coincidence.

Yeah, my Kilowog and his guardian don't match, either. But I'm still pretty sure that's what the numbers are for.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

^ Agreed.



At least with the more recent films, I think both have done well in keeping with their respective source materials (Superman Returns aside). The trick here is to define which source material you're using for comparison.

Of course, these are movies, not comics, and they have their own universes. As far as I'm concerned, as long as the filmmakers get the basics right, I can usually roll with whatever else they change.

The GL figures, on the other hand, are weak except for Movie Masters.

See, that's really my basis for worry and complaint- without reading their names on the card, NONE of the GL figures looks anyting like their comic conterparts- none of the ones I've seen anyway. And Sinestro is Pink in almost ever still I've seen of him- light pink.
The clincher was Parallax- seeing the figure for that and the movie art renders realy made me wince...

Thankfully most of my fears were capped by the new "origin of the Corps" trailer for the movie- that actually looks excellent and far better than any of the "Ryan Reynolds playing Ryan Reynolds" trailers.
The new clip looks really awesome, so I'll happily eat some crow if the film is great. Again, I WABT it to be great- not pasasable or okay, but really deservibg of the comic (and having Johns on board is a big plus).


Here's that new trailer for tose that have not seen it yet:
New Green Lantern Trailer Debuts « Spinoff Online – TV, Film and Entertainment News Daily

[DarkestKnight]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

See, that's really my basis for worry and complaint- without reading their names on the card, NONE of the GL figures looks anyting like their comic conterparts- none of the ones I've seen anyway. And Sinestro is Pink in almost ever still I've seen of him- light pink.
The clincher was Parallax- seeing the figure for that and the movie art renders realy made me wince...

Thankfully most of my fears were capped by the new "origin of the Corps" trailer for the movie- that actually looks excellent and far better than any of the "Ryan Reynolds playing Ryan Reynolds" trailers.
The new clip looks really awesome, so I'll happily eat some crow if the film is great. Again, I WABT it to be great- not pasasable or okay, but really deservibg of the comic (and having Johns on board is a big plus).

Again, I hate to split hairs, but I really don't know where you are getting this "doesn't look anything like" point of view, because it sounds really extreme. I mean the characters are still fairly identifiable they just look more detailed. And honestly, when Sinestro showed up in the official teaser last year, there probably wasn't a GL fan on the planet who couldn't tell who he was. I mean, are really complaining about the shade of a comic character's skin? We could probably walk into any comic store and find multiple examples where he's all different shades of pink.

Once again, in regards to the changes, that aren't that drastically different, it's just the same as any other writer/artist putting their own mark on the characters. The fact is, I can't see why anyone expects a panel for panel, look for look translation in a comic film. It hasn't happened before, and it probably never will. And that doesn't just go for comics, that goes for every film that was adapted from somewhere else.

Sometimes you just need to give things a chance and see how you feel after seeing the finished project and not get upset about it beforehand. No one here is going to ask you to eat crow if the film turns out to be great, but don't let incredibly high and unrealistic expectations ruin the opportunity to just enjoy something a little different.

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by DarkestKnight

Again, I hate to split hairs, but I really don't know where you are getting this "doesn't look anything like" point of view, because it sounds really extreme. I mean the characters are still fairly identifiable they just look more detailed. And honestly, when Sinestro showed up in the official teaser last year, there probably wasn't a GL fan on the planet who couldn't tell who he was. I mean, are really complaining about the shade of a comic character's skin? We could probably walk into any comic store and find multiple examples where he's all different shades of pink.

Once again, in regards to the changes, that aren't that drastically different, it's just the same as any other writer/artist putting their own mark on the characters. The fact is, I can't see why anyone expects a panel for panel, look for look translation in a comic film. It hasn't happened before, and it probably never will. And that doesn't just go for comics, that goes for every film that was adapted from somewhere else.

Sometimes you just need to give things a chance and see how you feel after seeing the finished project and not get upset about it beforehand. No one here is going to ask you to eat crow if the film turns out to be great, but don't let incredibly high and unrealistic expectations ruin the opportunity to just enjoy something a little different.

I could not possibly agree more. I feel the designs like Kilowog, Bzzd, Stel (Not his concept design that got made into a toy, but the one that actually appears), Tomar Re, and Isamot are all very recognizable, and are approached from a realistic standpoint, over a cartoonish one.

This isn't like Starscream, Bumblebee, and Ironhide who are all redesigned from scratch in their movies, and have nothing in common with their namesakes.

The Lanterns who don't look like their comic counterparts, like Naut, and Medphyl, are dramatic improvements and look very realistic and believable, while maintaining the key features of their original designs.
And, as you pointed out with Sinestro's skin, most of the alien lanterns tend to get redesigned from artist to artist. Isamot jumps from looking like a Raptor/croc hybrid, to something from the Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles practically from issue to issue. Kilowog and Abin Sur also varies extremely, depending on who draws them.

[Jason Abbadon]

You know what?
I TAKE IT ALL BACK.

I just read an extended review of X-Men First Class and have decided that the Green Lantern movie will be awesome by any concievable comparison and that Marvel has seriously jumped the shark from my "Marvel holds to the source material" viewpoint.


While I can see anyone's complaints about Transformers, the comparison with comics is not really valid- the comics have established a look and personality over hundreds of appearances, each artist bringing someting to the table without a radical redesign- whereas in Transformers they have rebooted the whole concept and look of each character so many times that one more is annoying but hardly suprising.
You read Hannu from a decade ago and from last month and he's still obviously very close to his first appearance- even accounting for today's higher standards of art, color, etc.
I cant tell one transformer from another any more!

I still maintain my gripes about some Lanterns though- Hannu is AWFUL- hell, his figure does not even have a ring! Hopefully he will have one onscreen. A perfect example of screwing with a character for no real reason.
Isamot and Parallax are completely unrecognisible.

But okay, Sinestro, for all his pink glowing, obviously CGI skin is still obviously Sinestro- as is Abin Sur and the rubber chicken lantern, Tomar Re.

I'm pretty harsh in my critique because I want it to be as great as the last few yeras of the comics have been- and that trailer I linked leans in that direction.

[DarkestKnight]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Isamot and Parallax are completely unrecognisible.

Isamot is still a lizard and Parallax is still a big yellow monster with sharp teeth, lol.


But glad to see you are at least a little more open to the film, that's all the creators of it ask, is to give it a chance.

[blasekbh]

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Originally Posted by DarkestKnight

Isamot is still a lizard and Parallax is still a big yellow monster with sharp teeth, lol.

If everyone had a human physique in the movie then people would complain how generic and recycled it was. They took the liberty to give us aliens that look like aliens, instead of humans with a different head... I'm pleases so far!

[DarkestKnight]

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Originally Posted by blasekbh

If everyone had a human physique in the movie then people would complain how generic and recycled it was.

Imagine the complaints for the toyline then.

[Jason Abbadon]

Isomot never looked even vaguely human- but now he looks like a blue dog thing! the hell?!?
Parallax looks like a cloud thing from what I've seen- that failed badly with Galactus in thte FF movie.
Too bad too- Parallax has an amazing comics design- almost dragon like but bright glowing yellow.

(shrugs) maybe they'll show some part of that aspect- there is a slight moment where the yellow lantern corps symbol is visible inside it (second trailer).

Nothing excuses the terrible toys though! The Movie masters are pretty but have zero articulation. The 3.75 are wholly skippable- saw the "concept Stel" on monday and laughed at it's terribleness! they did not even seperate it's "fingers"! it's just plain bad.

[Crazy Jetty]

Are you going only by the toys, Jason, or the true movie character designs?

The toys are based on the concept art, which (in Stel's case) can be dramatically different. Isamot looks pretty dead on for a thanagarian, in the movie. He looks like a vaguely humanoid crocodillian. Just like a thanagarian should. I'm still not seeing this "He looks nothing like Isamot" deal you're on. He looks EXACTLY how a realistic Isamot should.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

Are you going only by the toys, Jason, or the true movie character designs?

The toys are based on the concept art, which (in Stel's case) can be dramatically different. Isamot looks pretty dead on for a thanagarian, in the movie. He looks like a vaguely humanoid crocodillian. Just like a thanagarian should. I'm still not seeing this "He looks nothing like Isamot" deal you're on. He looks EXACTLY how a realistic Isamot should.

I'm going mostly by the youts for the look of the redesigns- and Isomot in particular is kinda glaring there- I love that damn yellow-aligator-alien in the comics! The dynamic between him and his Raanian partner is amazing- Isomot went as far as cutting off his own legs to give to his partner (they'll grow back but still a hell of a thing to do!).

Hopefully Hannu also looks better than his figure would indicate!

Y'know, they really need a nicely articulated 3.75" GL line- something with the whole Corps' to draw on- the bigger figures are really nicely done (not the movie line) but cost almost $20 where I live and that's steep.

Still, I'd gladly pay it for the three-pack with Destarr, the GL squirrell (Not C'Hip, the new one) and Despotillis!

I want a Mogo Christmas ornament!

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

I'm going mostly by the youts for the look of the redesigns- and Isomot in particular is kinda glaring there- I love that damn yellow-aligator-alien in the comics! The dynamic between him and his Raanian partner is amazing- Isomot went as far as cutting off his own legs to give to his partner (they'll grow back but still a hell of a thing to do!).

Hopefully Hannu also looks better than his figure would indicate!

Y'know, they really need a nicely articulated 3.75" GL line- something with the whole Corps' to draw on- the bigger figures are really nicely done (not the movie line) but cost almost $20 where I live and that's steep.

Still, I'd gladly pay it for the three-pack with Destarr, the GL squirrell (Not C'Hip, the new one) and Despotillis!

I want a Mogo Christmas ornament!

Youts? Is that a typo for toys? If it's an expression, then I appologize but I've never heard it before.
If you ment to say toys, then the card backs have their true and current movie models on them. Isamot's not orange, true, but his toy doesn't do him justice (Like most of this line).
Isamot's one of my top five favorites also. Right under Kilowog and Gardner.
But, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about thinking he's recognizable, or not.

As got the small scale GL line... I really hope Mattel feels that it's enough of a winner to jump back into comic-based figures after the movie runs it's course.

[Jason Abbadon]

Yeah- should have been "toys"~ I'm at work and typing one-handed as I process a bunch of orders and shipments and other craziness.

Damnit, Jim! I'm a toy collecor, not a typist!

Maybe I'll just repaint Isamot- not like I have not done that sorta thing before.

I wonder if we'll se Arisa or Sodom Yat in a background scene...
Y'know, as much as I complain about the re-design (why is the Green man now a froggy?!?) I gotta hand it to them on the redesign on the guy (forget his name) that's just a big head with arms and legs- like the GL Modok or something.
the movie version is a lot better than his cheesy comic look (though that's from the Silver Age, like chicken-man Tomar Re).

As long as there's no G'Nort, I'll be happy enough.

[blasekbh]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

I wonder if we'll se Arisa or Sodom Yat in a background scene....

They did release a viral for the movie of a "distress" call from Fentara Rrab to Sinestro, in which parallax kills him sooo my hopes are high.

[Optimus Vader]

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Originally Posted by Crazy Jetty

Youts? Is that a typo for toys?

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Yeah- should have been "toys"~ I'm at work and typing one-handed as I process a bunch of orders and shipments and other craziness..

Feels like My Cousin Vinny in here.

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Nothing excuses the terrible toys though! The Movie masters are pretty but have zero articulation.

Please tell me this is a typo too. I realize you might be exaggerating to make a point, but that statement makes absolutely no sense to me.

Of course they're articulated. Hal Jordan MM has 15 points alone.

[Jason Abbadon]

Their hips...man that kills the sale for me- like an old star wars figure on the smaller figs (the scale I buy) and still pretty bad on the Movie masters figs- not actually moving at the hip but with that odd secondary swivel just below the hip. I dont think I've sen that before...
You can have a hundred points of articulation but if the hips and shoulders dont work, or they dont move enough to pose nicely, it's pointless. Same with the neck- gotta be able to look up if it's a flyer (some aliens can pass, but hal, sinestro, Abin and the chicken have to have it).
For some better articulated views (no pun intended), here's a custom fix for the MM Hal:
http://www.toyark.com/custom-green-l...ie-figs-56829/

The fishy guy and the grasshopper look cool enough to just buy regardless (I'm big on the alien types- though Green Man still bites).

Really, I want to buy the aliens and repaint them as (Marvel) Nova Corps members for the irony value.

[Crazy Jetty]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Their hips...man that kills the sale for me- like an old star wars figure on the smaller figs (the scale I buy) and still pretty bad on the Movie masters figs- not actually moving at the hip but with that odd secondary swivel just below the hip. I dont think I've sen that before...

I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to? The humanoid Movie Masters, like Hal, Sinestro, and Tomar Re all have the exact same type of hip articulation as the DCUC figures. In fact, their hips are the only bit of articulation design that carries over, and the only bit of articulation that works well.

[DarkestKnight]

I'm just starting to get the feeling some people are hard to please.

On a side note, I picked up the "Constructing Green Lantern" book at Borders, and it's a fantastic book full of production insight and photos, art, etc. It's written by the guy that was the researcher for the film and I really do get the idea that they had a great respect for the mythology and explain some of the changes to the characters, including Parallax, I didn't want to read to much into it yet as it goes a lot into the events of the movie.