[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

I can't believe all positive reminiscing in this thread in regards to Batman Forever. That shit movie and it's sequel are what killed the Batman franchise for almost a decade.

It's called revisionist history, it happens often nowadays. It's not a phenomenon reserved to things that happened a decade or more ago, I'm noticing it nearly in real time regarding things that occurred the previous day.

I've never met a movie I didn't like...by the by.

[maczero]

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Originally Posted by OriginalFire

This movie was okay. It was Batman and Robin that killed Batman movies until Nolan came along. The soundtrack was amazing

I was going to agree with you about the soundtrack but I realized I was mixing it up with the Batman Forever soundtrack. There's a track with Brandy and Lenny Kravitz that's one of my all time faves.

[Symbiotee]

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Originally Posted by Spooked

I don't really venture into 1/6th, but this may break me. How much do you think the pair of these will run? (I'm almost afraid to even ask...)

I was collecting Marvel Select and a few Marvel Legends but when I got my first Hot Toys I decided 1/6 is where ill stay at. I will also do 1/4 scale if the figure is well made.
Hot Toys should've removed the Robin nipples.

[webz]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

I can't believe all positive reminiscing in this thread in regards to Batman Forever. That shit movie and it's sequel are what killed the Batman franchise for almost a decade.

The positive reminiscing is because most of us were kids or teens when Batman Forever came out, and it was a fun, energetic film. The hate and bitterness came from the "We know what good film is" critics and adults who didn't understand what a comicbook movie really was. Is it perfect? No. It's by no means anywhere as good as 1989 Batman. But it's also not horrible. Honestly, as entertainment, I prefer these movies over the Nolan trilogy only because these are actually comicbook-type FUN. With the Nolan films, they try too hard to be "serious epic drama" and in my humble opinion, fail horribly at being the characters portrayed. Batman's roar/whisper voice, obsession with Rachel, Joker being some clairvoyant manipulator of probabilities, and Catwoman and Bane's social justice warriors schtick just fall flat. I'd rather watch a campy 1960's homage in the Schumacher films than the abysmally whiny Nolan Bat.

[Dolemite]

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Originally Posted by OriginalFire

This movie was okay. It was Batman and Robin that killed Batman movies until Nolan came along. The soundtrack was amazing

Batman Forever laid the intense camp groundwork that Batman and Robin drove into the end zone of dogshit. They're both guilty.

Don't get me wrong, they're both funny to watch in a "so bad they're good" kinda way, but I truly feel that the modern MCU movies strike the right balance of seriousness and humor. We're in a golden age of comic book movies right now.

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Originally Posted by webz

The positive reminiscing is because most of us were kids or teens when Batman Forever came out, and it was a fun, energetic film. The hate and bitterness came from the "We know what good film is" critics and adults who didn't understand what a comicbook movie really was.

You mean it should be this?

[webz]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Batman Forever laid the intense camp groundwork that Batman and Robin drove into the end zone of dogshit. They're both guilty.

Don't get me wrong, they're both funny to watch in a "so bad they're good" kinda way, but I truly feel that the modern MCU movies strike the right balance of seriousness and humor. We're in a golden age of comic book movies right now.

I thoroughly enjoyed Shazam far more than Endgame, personally. I like movies that embrace the enjoyment. Heroes cracking jokes and confident one-liners, villains with ridiculous machines for global destruction, and overall hammy comicbook-style dialog. If I want serious drama, there are thousands of independent films shot in Italy for that.

With Civil War, Infinity War and definitely Endgame and Spider-Man FFH, it's fallen closer to the Nolan "serious movie" over the "Hey, we're comicbook characters, let's do this!" fun of movies like Deadpool, Ragnarok, Antman, Venom, Shazam, Aquaman, Superman 1978, etc. I'm almost Marvel'd out. Doctor Strange 2 will be my gauge.

[icematta]

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Originally Posted by webz

I thoroughly enjoyed Shazam far more than Endgame, personally. I like movies that embrace the enjoyment. Heroes cracking jokes and confident one-liners, villains with ridiculous machines for global destruction, and overall hammy comicbook-style dialog. If I want serious drama, there are thousands of independent films shot in Italy for that.

With Civil War, Infinity War and definitely Endgame and Spider-Man FFH, it's fallen closer to the Nolan "serious movie" over the "Hey, we're comicbook characters, let's do this!" fun of movies like Deadpool, Ragnarok, Antman, Venom, Shazam, Aquaman, Superman 1978, etc. I'm almost Marvel'd out. Doctor Strange 2 will be my gauge.

Yes, your kinda right, but you need to have a balance, you can't have all funny heroes, some must be the voice of reason, etc...
But after the bitterness of the last 2 avengers, we can have a lighter tone, for a while, until a new threat (more movies) shows up...

That being said, I'll never be Marveled or DCed out or any company, too much of a fan...

[webz]

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Originally Posted by icematta

Yes, your kinda right, but you need to have a balance, you can't have all funny heroes, some must be the voice of reason, etc...
But after the bitterness of the last 2 avengers, we can have a lighter tone, for a while, until a new threat (more movies) shows up...

That being said, I'll never be Marveled or DCed out or any company, too much of a fan...

True. I'm not proposing turning the MCU into Teen Titans Go!, I just think Thor: Ragnarok should be held as the gold standard for Marvel movies. Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Endgame, and Far From Home remind me more of Thor 2.

[Weapon X]

I haven't bought a Hot Toys figure since 2012. I'm buying Batman.