[quinten182]

The repainting I half understand for this reasoning.

Business is business and this works. If it's a solid repaint, I rarely complain about it if it's a new character I want. But this is where it becomes an issue. Hasbro isn't making loads of NEW characters with their repaints, they're just repainting figures and we're getting the same people over and over. THIS is where shelf warming comes into play in MU. Iron man, Spiderman, more and more Iron man.. they sit. Because a repaint to give us the same character is dumb.

Phoenix becoming Psylocke? Not the best mold no.. but I'm 110% more apt to buy Psylocke than an Iron Man with a blue arc reactor as opposed to the yellow one on my shelf for the same price..

[warmachine6]

intresting point .. i reckon they will carry on but im not sure if the 6" line will cause i havent seen much hasbro 6 inches and seems to based off the avengers so far, i like the movie versions , but i personally think they will do at least every chracter in the marvel universe with different version like movie , comic , other costumes. but as seeing avengers are coming out we still have to wait for films like the amazing spiderman, ghostrider 2 , iron man 3 , warmachine, nickfury so it depends on the contract between marvel and hasbro.

[thechris]

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Originally Posted by omega145

I didnt know a thread had winners and losers. Arent threads for discussion and opinions?

I've been wondering that myself. Lately, I've been getting my ass handed to me just for having an opinion about anything.

[Do Boy]

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Originally Posted by thechris

I've been wondering that myself. Lately, I've been getting my ass handed to me just for having an opinion about anything.

It's the interwebz. Someone always has to be right and someone always have to be wrong. I just post what I can where I can Hell I need more points to win the free Sentinel

[Nexodusrex]

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Originally Posted by AndyCR75

After viewing the SDCC pics, it's pretty clear they are full steam ahead well into 2012, which considering the world ends in December '12, that's pretty bold of them.

Please tell me you dont honestly believe the world is going to end in december 2012.

[thechris]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

Considering they have reused molds for every toy line they've ever done, Hasbro will probably continue the practice as long as they remain in the toy business.

You also have to understand that even though collectors may not like it (even loathe it), it is a common practice in the toy industry and it's not just Hasbro. You only have to gaze over at the Mattel section of the aisle to see that (DCUC was practically built around the concept). Or even the Lego/Building Block aisle. Talk about reusing parts.

I don't care about that. I probably didn't make myself clear. I don't care about the fact that it's a re-used mold. Obviously I don't expect them to resculpt 50 different bodies from scratch for 50 heroes who have similar body types. Otherwise, I'd never buy any toy, ever. It's the fact that we get a re-used mold that's the exact same character with a minor repaint.

There's no doubt that we have 3 Cyclops figures that are the exact same version of Cyclops all with the same body mold and even the era is pretty much the same. Spider-man, WOW. Modern Thor. Reusing Doc Samson's head on Thor... yeah, that's a bit lazy. Iron Man figures with arc reactor variations... Won't even go there. I don't even care when they reuse a mold and it's suitable and a different character, at least we get someone new. Like when they used Union Jack for the Hydra Soldiers. They look good enough. It's a generic mask. I can deal with that.

[thechris]

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Originally Posted by usagent27

new collectors emerge everyday... and they will need those base characters. makes it easier than trying to find older ones from the first waves.. i'm a new collector and i was able to find a phasing Vision... this way i don't have to pay over $50.00 for a older figure... i like this...wish they would release another Blade or a damn Secret Wars Hawkeye! lol

Phasing vision is a variant. He didn't take the place of another figure or get placed with a figure that people actually wanted. I think what we're complaining about is when we HAVE to buy a two pack or a boxset with a new figure boxed with Cyclops, Iron Man, Modern Thor or Spider-Man. Am I wrong or am I right? And say what you will, usagent27. Eventually, you'll have all the base figures and you'll likely be just as cranky most long term collectors about the repeats.

Let's say you bought Extremis Iron Man but you needed say a Moon Knight but the only way to get him is in a two pack with an Extremis Iron man with a blue arc reactor. You say "Ok, yeah, that's cool... I guess." You buy it. Then you want the new Melter figure, but he's again paired with Iron Man with a gray arc reactor. Come on. Don't tell me it won't start to grate on your nerves, even a little bit. LOL.

[DogFashionDisco]

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Originally Posted by AndyCR75

My thread was not a demand for more figures. It was a question I was putting out there for discussion.

Easy now, I just meant that as long as interest still remains (you're decision to make a thread about it for example) they will continue with the line.

[thechris]

Wow, is it just me, or does everyone seem a little edgy lately? LOL.

[omega145]

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Originally Posted by thechris

I've been wondering that myself. Lately, I've been getting my ass handed to me just for having an opinion about anything.

Dude, post whatever you feel like it. A thread is for discussion and opinions. Screw what anyone else thinks, if you have something to say then say it bro. This place is becoming more and more like hisstank and tfw in that aspect of peoples opinions being scrutnized and plenty of conversations that get these threads off track.

[usagent27]

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Originally Posted by thechris

Phasing vision is a variant. He didn't take the place of another figure or get placed with a figure that people actually wanted. I think what we're complaining about is when we HAVE to buy a two pack or a boxset with a new figure boxed with Cyclops, Iron Man, Modern Thor or Spider-Man. Am I wrong or am I right? And say what you will, usagent27. Eventually, you'll have all the base figures and you'll likely be just as cranky most long term collectors about the repeats.

Let's say you bought Extremis Iron Man but you needed say a Moon Knight but the only way to get him is in a two pack with an Extremis Iron man with a blue arc reactor. You say "Ok, yeah, that's cool... I guess." You buy it. Then you want the new Melter figure, but he's again paired with Iron Man with a gray arc reactor. Come on. Don't tell me it won't start to grate on your nerves, even a little bit. LOL.

In those cases it gives me reasons to try customs or ebay the figs i don't need. yeah after a while it may be a pain. for example i just bought moon knight... i want the new Ant man. i'm gonna end up with a extra moon knight. Figure i will give him to my son so he can start his collection

[DogFashionDisco]

Free speech is a beautiful thing.

[thechris]

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Originally Posted by usagent27

In those cases it gives me reasons to try customs or ebay the figs i don't need. yeah after a while it may be a pain. for example i just bought moon knight... i want the new Ant man. i'm gonna end up with a extra moon knight. Figure i will give him to my son so he can start his collection

That's a good idea, man. I've actually been giving away some of my doubles to friends to get them started. Everyone'll take a free Spider-man figure.

[usagent27]

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Originally Posted by thechris

That's a good idea, man. I've actually been giving away some of my doubles to friends to get them started. Everyone'll take a free Spider-man figure.

he already has like 3 Captain americas and plays with them all. I started him out on the Justice league figures.....figures it's time for him to grow into marvel now.

[perrych]

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Originally Posted by quinten182

The repainting I half understand for this reasoning.

Business is business and this works. If it's a solid repaint, I rarely complain about it if it's a new character I want. But this is where it becomes an issue. Hasbro isn't making loads of NEW characters with their repaints, they're just repainting figures and we're getting the same people over and over. THIS is where shelf warming comes into play in MU. Iron man, Spiderman, more and more Iron man.. they sit. Because a repaint to give us the same character is dumb.

Phoenix becoming Psylocke? Not the best mold no.. but I'm 110% more apt to buy Psylocke than an Iron Man with a blue arc reactor as opposed to the yellow one on my shelf for the same price..

To be fair to Hasbro, some of these repaints are in regards to fan's comments and requests. People didn't like Magneto - they give us a repaint. People commented that about Ultron - we get a green eyed Ultron. Someone said, "I wish Juggernaut had a removable helmet." Guess what we get? No removable helmet, but a new head. So, we get about half of what we want but you can't say that they aren't responding to their consumers.

Of course, repainting Pheonix to Psylocke is beneficial to us because it got the figure to the us much faster than having to create a new mold for the head or torso. That may have saved as much as a year in production. It will be great when they get a new female torso to enable some different proportioned bodies or styled frames ... or even height differences! Hasbro has really done a lot with only figure bodies.

But I agree - enough with the Iron Man figures and their random variants. Let them go into the IM and Avengers figure lines.

[MegsTriggerMan]

How bout everyone takes a free Artic threat Destro!!

[Nexodusrex]

I'ma throw in my 2 cents
remember when I talked about my "Give a kid a MU Figure" initiative charity thing?
just give your doubles to kids. make them feel happy and it might get them interested
if that dosent work, your LCBS will be glad to take them if they do in exchange for credit or space cash.

[usagent27]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I'ma throw in my 2 cents
remember when I talked about my "Give a kid a MU Figure" initiative charity thing?
just give your doubles to kids. make them feel happy and it might get them interested
.

I think this is the best idea yet

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by omega145

I didnt know a thread had winners and losers. Arent threads for discussion and opinions?

It's a figure of speech. It has more flair than simply saying "I agree."

Besides, we're all winners here. We collect toys as a hobby. How is that not a win? XD

(And no, I'm not going to do a Charlie Sheen joke)

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Originally Posted by usagent27

new collectors emerge everyday... and they will need those base characters. makes it easier than trying to find older ones from the first waves..

Good point. There are several Arkers, such as yourself, who have commented about getting into MU late in the game.

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Originally Posted by quinten182

The repainting I half understand for this reasoning.

Business is business and this works. If it's a solid repaint, I rarely complain about it if it's a new character I want. But this is where it becomes an issue. Hasbro isn't making loads of NEW characters with their repaints, they're just repainting figures and we're getting the same people over and over. THIS is where shelf warming comes into play in MU. Iron man, Spiderman, more and more Iron man.. they sit. Because a repaint to give us the same character is dumb.

But every time Hasbro puts out that same Iron Man figure (even if it is an identical deco) and someone buys it, that's a little extra profit for Hasbro that could be turned into the next Darkhawk or X-23 figure.
, thus continuing the line.

Don't get me wrong - I rarely like having multiples of the same mold in my collection, unless it's character-driven (i.e. TF Seekers). I just try not to buy it again, if possible. But I don't rage or get upset about Hasbro putting out yet another copy of an existing Iron Man mold.

Whenever I got an exact duplicate due to a multipack or some other type of exclusive thing, I used to sell or trade off the extra. Then I became an uncle and I started to give them to my nephew. Now that I'm a dad, I'll give them to my daughter as well.

Charity is also a wonderful choice.

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Originally Posted by thechris

Wow, is it just me, or does everyone seem a little edgy lately? LOL.

You may be right.

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Originally Posted by usagent27

I think this is the best idea yet

Agreed.

[jschambe]

Don't forget that the Legends line was still around in some form (Wal-Mart exclusives) almost right up until 2011. I think this could last a long time, especially with the success of the movies. I'm hoping for more sub-lines. I'd like to have Avengers and X-Men specific lines, the Avengers seems like it will definitely happen. Also, it would be cool to have more of a cosmic line.

[Badrumble]

here, let me " hit it on the head "....roll a blunt up, and lets go to every target/TRU within a 50 mile radius, and lets see some milfs as well....shheesh.

[Jlogano20]

wait was that a legit belief the world will end in dec 2012???

[usagent27]

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Originally Posted by Jlogano20

wait was that a legit belief the world will end in dec 2012???

Mayan calendar ends in 2012. some believe this is the end of the world

[Nexodusrex]

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Originally Posted by Jlogano20

wait was that a legit belief the world will end in dec 2012???

I think we should stop talking about toys and start getting his stuff from him if he does. he dosent need it if he's right. lol

[Nexodusrex]

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Originally Posted by usagent27

Mayan calendar ends in 2012. some believe this is the end of the world

mayan calender also begins again in 2012. just like it did a couple hundred years ago, and again, and again, and again, 13 times :P