[Dr Karl Kennedy]

I just read this thread All. The. Way. Through.

Possibly the best thread on any internet forum. ever.

[Weapon X]

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Originally Posted by Monte Williams

Yeah, it was all indie comic book characters. Their Monkeyman BAF is brilliant.

Why did it get only like two waves?

[Monte Williams]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

Why did it get only like two waves?

I suspect the obscurity of the characters is to blame. The company was Toybiz, too, so it wasn't a quality issue. I remember they'd just lost the Marvel Legends license to Hasbro... and then changed their company name to Marvel Toys or some such, oddly.

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Originally Posted by Dr Karl Kennedy

I just read this thread All. The. Way. Through.

Possibly the best thread on any internet forum. ever.

That's awesome!

[Monte Williams]

[Universe]

[Trivial Psychic]

[scarrviper]

Airtight by scarrviper, on Flickr

[Weapon X]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monte Williams

I suspect the obscurity of the characters is to blame. The company was Toybiz, too, so it wasn't a quality issue. I remember they'd just lost the Marvel Legends license to Hasbro... and then changed their company name to Marvel Toys or some such, oddly.

How did they end up losing the license anyways? I've never fully understood.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

How did they end up losing the license anyways? I've never fully understood.

It basically boiled down to money, control, and distribution, things that Marvel wanted and Hasbro was able to better provide. When Marvel cancelled their agreement with ToyBiz, they did it a year early and ended up paying about 13 million in fees, but in doing so, they sped up the transition to Hasbro and in turn ended up getting a 100 million dollar advance in the process. Remember, Marvel was a company that was in dire straits and was nearly bankrupt at the time, so every bit of money was needed to keep things afloat, and the money they received from Hasbro likely went towards the 525 million dollar financing deal they had with Merril Lynch to start Marvel Studios (which would be the business venture that would finally get Marvel out of debt.)

Marvel receives less money in royalties and fees from Hasbro than what they received with ToyBiz, however, they get something from Hasbro that ToyBiz simply didn't have, and that's name brand recognition, as Hasbro is one of the biggest toy and game companies in the world, and as a result, can be more widely distributed. If ToyBiz was still around today, I'd highly doubt you'd ever find a Marvel Legends in the toy aisle at Walgreen's, but with Hasbro's marketing power and reach, it's possible. Marvel knew that, and was willing to lose a few pennies in the process in order to move more product.

Hasbro is also a master of getting the most out of their products, factories, and molds, allowing them to produce figures cheaper than ToyBiz ever could. ToyBiz's own methods, which often featured unique sculpts (and in turn, sculptors who had to be paid for their work,) elaborate paint decos and articulation, and highly detailed large scaled figures, was not cost efficient, whereas Hasbro has had a talent for kit-bashing figures for years to create new products, saving tons of money in the process.

It wasn't a smooth transition for Hasbro as most of their early offerings were ToyBiz re-dos, some dismal and poorly distributed Legends figures as their own team tried to find their footing, and an eventual push away from the 6" line altogether (Hasbro was FAR more experienced in smaller scale lines, thanks to the years of milking G.I.Joe for everything it was worth,) but eventually all things that are old become new again, and after having that sour experience behind them (as well as playing around with new molds and techniques for their Universe line and how to better implement them,) they got it together and Marvel Legends finally returned. While it sucked for ToyBiz, I'd say it's worked out for the best for Hasbro and Marvel. Marvel Legends used to only produce about 15 to 20 figures maximum in a year under ToyBiz. Under Hasbro, nearly 70 figures were produced in 2015 alone, all of which adds up to more profit in the long run for Marvel.

[TheBlueMarvel]

[redfox]

"Oh, the General? To me, she is royalty."

[Jackieboy]

[scarrviper]

Gnawgahyde by scarrviper, on Flickr

[TheBlueMarvel]

[Kuma Style]

[TheBlueMarvel]

Those are really neat. I'm not a Rangers fan at all, but their Megazords (at least that iconic one) are so reminiscent of Godaikin designs. I can't help being drawn to them.

[scarrviper]

Headhunter Stormtroopers by scarrviper, on Flickr

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by scarrviper

Headhunter Stormtroopers by scarrviper, on Flickr

I wish Hasbro would have revisited these guys during the 50th anniversary days. They, along with the Alley Vipers, Incinerators, and Crimson Guard Immortals were among my favorite of the Cobra ranks...

[MegaPrime33]

[scarrviper]

Night Vipers by scarrviper, on Flickr

[Monte Williams]

I regret not getting in on some Hot Toys Batman/Joker goodness.

[scarrviper]

Alley Vipers by scarrviper, on Flickr

[TheBlueMarvel]

You are killin' it with these Joes!

[Weapon X]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Have you tried messing around with diffusion on your light sources?

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

Have you tried messing around with diffusion on your light sources?

No, I don't know much about lighting techniques (or photography, really). You're suggesting using filters, correct? I use acetate sheets and editing tools, but that's about it...