[Cyclopswc]

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Originally Posted by Phantomcrow

Do you have all the Starscream clones from the Animated series?? Thundercracker, and Sunstorm. I only ever got the Dinobots and Blurr, Hot Rod, and Arcee from Animated.

what? I thought the Voyager Animated Thundercracker was cancelled?!? They only released the Activator, didn't they?

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by LapuLapu

I like the Endo, but couldnt find the Robocop , there was the Robocop with the jetpack but I think they are not the same scale(?). And TRU is asking $25 for it.

The Robocop you are mentioning is on the same scale as the RvsT figures. It uses the exact same mold as the spring loaded holster Robocop, which is the exact same mold that is used for the NES Robocop and RvsT video game figures.

As I have said before, if you can get past the blue tinted deco (Robocop had a bluish hue to him in the sequels, while was more of a silver color in the original) then jetpack Robo is the way to go if you haven't picked up one already thanks to his accessories. The jetpack is sweet, but the arm cannon and Cobra assault rifle are sick, way better than the data spike that was recycled for three different figures.

The RvsT figures are pretty sweet as they come with weapons based on the game and feature a nice redeco overall, but the packaging just kills it for me. I understand why they didn't used the boxflap packaging for this one, but it just doesn't have the appeal that the previous video game releases (Friday the 13th, Batman, Robocop, etc...) had with me.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Cyclopswc

what? I thought the Voyager Animated Thundercracker was cancelled?!? They only released the Activator, didn't they?

He was cancelled...but apparently like most toys that are cancelled, a few of these fell through the cracks through hook or crook, and ended up in the hands of only those who were really privileged. I didn't realize this myself until someone mentioned it here on the boards to me a few days ago.

Here's a few links to some reviews and pictures of the holy grail to Transformers Animated...

Collecticon.org » Closer look at Animated Voyager Thundercracker for sale by Deceptigtar

Unreleased Animated Thundercracker Up For Auction - Transformers

[Cyclopswc]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

He was cancelled...but apparently like most toys that are cancelled, a few of these fell through the cracks through hook or crook, and ended up in the hands of only those who were really privileged. I didn't realize this myself until someone mentioned it here on the boards to me a few days ago.

Thanks for the info. Man, I hate it when that happens!

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

The Robocop you are mentioning is on the same scale as the RvsT figures. It uses the exact same mold as the spring loaded holster Robocop, which is the exact same mold that is used for the NES Robocop and RvsT video game figures.

The RvsT figures are pretty sweet as they come with weapons based on the game and feature a nice redeco overall, but the packaging just kills it for me. I understand why they didn't used the boxflap packaging for this one, but it just doesn't have the appeal that the previous video game releases (Friday the 13th, Batman, Robocop, etc...) had with me.

Yeah, just about everything NECA makes is in their 7" scale. I get your disappointment with the RvT packaging especially because I so dig getting to keep the NES figure boxes behind the toys to complete the display. The packaging for the RvT line is pretty nice on its own, similar to their classic Apes boxes, but it just can't compare to the NES packaging. They could have done the flap box if they did it the way they did for Ultimate Freddy, but again he was a stand-alone figure and not part of a true series.

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by PROVOST

@ Trivial Psychic -

Oh damn...I can't believe I missed this. Thanks Provost! I'd be scared to think what could happen if Unicron disapproved! Whew!

[Poison Shadow]

Got a nice haul today. Got three Robins to do a couple of customs, two of Arrow's Canary to do one as a comic-style custom, and got the Starfire statue because I got a decent deal. I'll probably sell it, though, for about $80 shipped in the U.S. if anyone is interested.



I actually had no idea Canary and Zero Year Batman were coming out so soon. That was a little bit of extra strain on the wallet.

For some reason Canary looks more like Laurel than Sarah, and I think it's because her face is a little too long. I like this costume for Batman because it references his original, purple gloves and all.

[Dark Hayabusa]

[snake5289]

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Originally Posted by Poison Shadow

Got a nice haul today. Got three Robins to do a couple of customs, two of Arrow's Canary to do one as a comic-style custom, and got the Starfire statue because I got a decent deal. I'll probably sell it, though, for about $80 shipped in the U.S. if anyone is interested.



I actually had no idea Canary and Zero Year Batman were coming out so soon. That was a little bit of extra strain on the wallet.

For some reason Canary looks more like Laurel than Sarah, and I think it's because her face is a little too long. I like this costume for Batman because it references his original, purple gloves and all.

Nice. I just downloaded Arkham Origins Blackgate on my PS3 and the Year Zero suit is the one I've been playing as. It's pretty cool.

[Poison Shadow]

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Originally Posted by snake5289

Nice. I just downloaded Arkham Origins Blackgate on my PS3 and the Year Zero suit is the one I've been playing as. It's pretty cool.

Yeah, that's the one I used as well. It's actually what made me decide to pre-order the action figure. I still haven't even read Zero Year.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Poison Shadow

Yeah, that's the one I used as well. It's actually what made me decide to pre-order the action figure. I still haven't even read Zero Year.

If you truly appreciate the design then there's no need to read the comic to justify the toy, especially with characters like Batman, Spider-Man, or Iron Man.

[TomsToyChest]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

The movie-based spring-loaded holster Robocop is difficult to acquire the last time I checked, I have the NES version repaint. It's a great figure overall but his joints are stiff.

It’s an older figure so that’s not surprising that it’s hard to find now. I checked the Amazon marketplace and it's close to $60 which I think is much too high of an asking price. The NES figures never appealed to me so they were an automatic pass.

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

I have to disagree with "miss or miss badly" and go with "hit or miss" for NECA QC. If it really were miss or miss badly then there wouldn't be any good figures available.

Then I think it's safe to say we obviously differ greatly on what the definition of “good” is. You obviously have no problem with getting NECA Predator figures with idiotic goofs like misassembled arms per the pictures you posted. I have no tolerance for that kind of sloppiness, especially when factoring in the retail prices for their figures.

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

The fact that all of my kaiju from Pacific Rim are perfect is an example of some success. Others being my Bioshock figures, Prometheus, Evil Dead 2 Hero Ash, Cherno Alpha, and Nightstorm Predator (most of my predators are great but he stands out as far as everything goes).

I don’t collect any of those lines you mentioned so I’m unaware of any successes or failures those figures may or may not have. You’re obviously quite pleased with them, so I’m happy for you in that regard.

Regarding Nightstorm, that was a re-paint of the un-masked Berserker Predator from series 2. There was nothing new to see there aside from some new accessories. I have Nightstorm but like my Hive Wars Predator, I never got around to opening him.

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Watching various behind the scenes videos and just generally following the company, it's apparent the guys at NECA have a passion for their work but we have to remember they're a relatively small company. They're insects compared to giants like Hasbro or Mattel, and even those guys have had serious QC problems in various lines. Of course profit matters more than quality, you said it yourself this is America.

Sabah, I get that you're a fan of NECA figures. I really do. But I am curious, are you comfortable with that philosophy of profit trumping QC?

[TomsToyChest]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

If you're having trouble finding the spring holstered Robocop, might I suggest you picking up the Robocop that comes with the jetpack from part 3. If you don't mind the blue tinted decal of the sequels, it's hands down the best Robo that they have done thus far. It has the spring loaded holster, and the accessories are the best of the bunch as you get the gun arm attachment, the jetpack, and the cobra assault rifle...state of the art "bang bang"...

I'm an avid collector of both the Robocop series and the Predator series by NECA, and if it brings you any comfort, I've yet to have any QC issues with my Robo's, and that includes my ED-209. They have their share of fragile parts (such as the pistons on the ankles,) but in comparison to the Predator and Pacific Rim lines, seem to be better built overall.

Hey Trivial,

I've seen it a time or two when I've hit the out of town TRU I shop at occasionally. I'm not a fan of the jetpack accessory or the blue tint. I figured NECA would leave the spring holster mechanism in place on the more current Robocop 3 figure because it's an interesting gimmick, at least on paper.

There was a discussion about the spring holster on another forum just the other day. I read that the mechanism is quite brittle.

I've also heard those ankle pistons were troublesome. So taking that into account along with the potential problems with the spring holster, I decided to pass on buying it because if I bought the figure and it broke on me while reviewing it then I'd be screwed since I was told on my last visit TRU doesn't accept opened figure returns.

I'm happy for you that you haven't run into any issues with your Robocop figures. I did chuckle at your "state of the art bang bang" statement.

[tgbobafett]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

We had an Xmas party with our friends so here is our haul:

have you watched the wind rises yet? was wondering if its any good or not!

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by TomsToyChest

Sabah, I get that you're a fan of NECA figures. I really do. But I am curious, are you comfortable with that philosophy of profit trumping QC?

Maybe I am just lucky, but Hive Wars has been my only bad QC issue and I do think I don't let it bother me because I wanted it least of the three. If I had really wanted Hive Wars then I probably would have been pissed at that arm.

Honestly, I'm not comfortable with a lot of things that happen in the society of America (or Earth entirely), it's an observation of American capitalism and what it means to any business that wants to succeed. I have little faith in people, in general I'm a cynic. I happen to be very biased in favor of NECA because they're the only people who make these licenses as well as they do for just under $20 usually. Nobody else makes good Predator toys for that much in this scale, Japanese companies have tried their hand at making 'em but they cost too damn much and don't look very good (accuracy wise, as toys they look alright). I don't like it being this way very much, money coming first to a company over fixing QC issues before release, but NECA does try a lot more than others to replace and fix these problems if they can. I guess that's what you were wanting to know, or I just rambled aimlessly.

Anyway can't wait to see some fellow arkers Christmas hauls tomorrow.

[danemorgan]

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Originally Posted by 305Batman

Leatherface is next I believe.

They said Leatherface and Dante from DMC will be the next ultimate figures.

[Dr Kain]

How is the articulation on that Damian?

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Originally Posted by tgbobafett

have you watched the wind rises yet? was wondering if its any good or not!

I saw it in theaters and it was simply magnificent. It truly is Miyazaki's masterpiece work of art. Yes, the movie could have been about 10 minutes less, but I have never been blow away by one of his movies like this since Mononoke. It is definitely a must see.

[tgbobafett]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I saw it in theaters and it was simply magnificent. It truly is Miyazaki's masterpiece work of art. Yes, the movie could have been about 10 minutes less, but I have never been blow away by one of his movies like this since Mononoke. It is definitely a must see.

well i luv mononoke!! so i may have to give this a look see one day! thx

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by tgbobafett

have you watched the wind rises yet? was wondering if its any good or not!

I didn't watch it, though eventually I will since it's Miyazaki's last film (unless something has changed). My best friend did see it though and he was less than stunned, he liked the visuals which are always amazing from a Miyazaki film, but he found the story to be wanting. As he told me "there isn't much of an antagonist force", now you don't always need an antagonist to have a good movie but he found it worth noting. I suppose you should go in knowing that it won't be as mythical or epic as his great works and see for yourself how you like it.

[TomsToyChest]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Maybe I am just lucky, but Hive Wars has been my only bad QC issue and I do think I don't let it bother me because I wanted it least of the three. If I had really wanted Hive Wars then I probably would have been pissed at that arm.

I’ll say it again Sabah, I get that you’re a fan of NECA products. I sincerely hope Randy Falk is aware of your loyalty.

You previously commented about the passion NECA brings in as a company in regards to the figures they produce. Being passionate about a product is admirable but it's no excuse for a lack of quality control in a product line. It doesn’t matter if it's something as simple as a paint app error or something more grievous such as damaged or broken figures for sale on store shelves, errors are errors.

NECA has had so many misses on their figures it’s ridiculous hence why I refer to them as a miss or miss badly company. Those misses take on an exponentially higher factor when you take into account that it is a small “insect company” (paraphrasing your choice of words) when compared to huge corporations like Hasbro and Mattel. I was glad to see that you backed off your earlier blanket statement of praise about not having any major QC issues with NECA's products when in fact you have had some experience with it after all.

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Honestly, I'm not comfortable with a lot of things that happen in the society of America (or Earth entirely), it's an observation of American capitalism and what it means to any business that wants to succeed. I have little faith in people, in general I'm a cynic. I happen to be very biased in favor of NECA because they're the only people who make these licenses as well as they do for just under $20 usually. Nobody else makes good Predator toys for that much in this scale, Japanese companies have tried their hand at making 'em but they cost too damn much and don't look very good (accuracy wise, as toys they look alright). I don't like it being this way very much, money coming first to a company over fixing QC issues before release, but NECA does try a lot more than others to replace and fix these problems if they can. I guess that's what you were wanting to know, or I just rambled aimlessly.

No need to apologize for the rambling Sabah. I know you're a loyal fan of NECA figures, I get that. But it seems that we’re miles apart on what our definition of “good” is.

Randy and the rest of the NECA crew appear to only want consumers who are easily impressed by either a) mere looks or b) are so happy that their favorite characters are in action figure form that if they wind up with a figure that has a problem like a misassembled arm, they overlook the lack of QC because they’ve become as biased as you profess to be Sabah. They don’t appear to want consumers like me who are fed up with continually running into the same ridiculously stupid QC issues that are so rampant among their products.

It takes more than visually appealing figures or seeing favorite characters like Predator in action figure form to impress me as a consumer. Hell I'd like to see the rest of Dutch's extraction team make it to action figure form at some point. But at the same time I expect a company to have a high standard of QC to go hand in hand with the visual appeal that many of the NECA figures have in return for the money I spend on a company’s product, especially when a small “insect company” like NECA produces that product.

I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement that NECA does more than most companies to fix and replace problems. If the problems I mentioned previously had been limited to one or maybe even two waves of Predator figures then maybe that statement would hold more weight. On the past 10 waves of Predator figures, including the exclusives like you’ll find at TRU or SDCC, I have either run into or at the very least heard about the same problems on a consistent basis. And as previously mentioned, there have been well-documented QC problems with their other figure lines as well. That shows me that Randy and the rest of the NECA crew don't really give a damn about the QC of their figures because they've had more than ample opportunity to fix the problem and have done nothing.

It’s regrettable that I’ll be passing on the forthcoming NECA Predator figures because I’ve been a fan of the character since it was introduced back in 1987. Maybe Randy and the other NECA employees under his command really will take steps to elevate the QC on their figures in the future but at this point I have my doubts that it will ever happen. After all, it’s the American way to follow the route of profit trumping QC. Ooh-rah USA, right?

Anyway, as I said previously, I wish you the best of luck in your pursuits of NECA figure collecting.

[En Sabah Nerd]

I posted more pictures on the Christmas/Holiday Haul thread.
Tacit Ronin does need a base to stand secure though, his knees don't seem capable of long-term standing. That damned QC!

[TimothyR]

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Originally Posted by TomsToyChest

I’ll say it again Sabah, I get that you’re a fan of NECA products. I sincerely hope Randy Falk is aware of your loyalty.

You previously commented about the passion NECA brings in as a company in regards to the figures they produce. Being passionate about a product is admirable but it's no excuse for a lack of quality control in a product line. It doesn’t matter if it's something as simple as a paint app error or something more grievous such as damaged or broken figures for sale on store shelves, errors are errors.

NECA has had so many misses on their figures it’s ridiculous hence why I refer to them as a miss or miss badly company. Those misses take on an exponentially higher factor when you take into account that it is a small “insect company” (paraphrasing your choice of words) when compared to huge corporations like Hasbro and Mattel. I was glad to see that you backed off your earlier blanket statement of praise about not having any major QC issues with NECA's products when in fact you have had some experience with it after all.



No need to apologize for the rambling Sabah. I know you're a loyal fan of NECA figures, I get that. But it seems that we’re miles apart on what our definition of “good” is.

Randy and the rest of the NECA crew appear to only want consumers who are easily impressed by either a) mere looks or b) are so happy that their favorite characters are in action figure form that if they wind up with a figure that has a problem like a misassembled arm, they overlook the lack of QC because they’ve become as biased as you profess to be Sabah. They don’t appear to want consumers like me who are fed up with continually running into the same ridiculously stupid QC issues that are so rampant among their products.

It takes more than visually appealing figures or seeing favorite characters like Predator in action figure form to impress me as a consumer. Hell I'd like to see the rest of Dutch's extraction team make it to action figure form at some point. But at the same time I expect a company to have a high standard of QC to go hand in hand with the visual appeal that many of the NECA figures have in return for the money I spend on a company’s product, especially when a small “insect company” like NECA produces that product.

I wholeheartedly disagree with your statement that NECA does more than most companies to fix and replace problems. If the problems I mentioned previously had been limited to one or maybe even two waves of Predator figures then maybe that statement would hold more weight. On the past 10 waves of Predator figures, including the exclusives like you’ll find at TRU or SDCC, I have either run into or at the very least heard about the same problems on a consistent basis. And as previously mentioned, there have been well-documented QC problems with their other figure lines as well. That shows me that Randy and the rest of the NECA crew don't really give a damn about the QC of their figures because they've had more than ample opportunity to fix the problem and have done nothing.

It’s regrettable that I’ll be passing on the forthcoming NECA Predator figures because I’ve been a fan of the character since it was introduced back in 1987. Maybe Randy and the other NECA employees under his command really will take steps to elevate the QC on their figures in the future but at this point I have my doubts that it will ever happen. After all, it’s the American way to follow the route of profit trumping QC. Ooh-rah USA, right?

Anyway, as I said previously, I wish you the best of luck in your pursuits of NECA figure collecting.

Wow.. I think you're going way too far.. All companies have QC problems.. It's just something that is going to happen, there's no getting around it.. I own a whole lot of figures from a whole lot of different companies, plenty of neca figures.. I've only broken 2 of them from me using too much force.. The rest of them were perfectly fine, no incorrect parts and the paint was solid.

If you're lumping paint work into this debate.. You aren't going to find many companies producing figures with perfect paint jobs.. Whether it's transformers masterpiece, sh figuarts, dc figures, marvel legends figures, or even hot toys figures, there are going to be plenty of figures with poor or bad paint jobs. And you know what, you'll probably read more about those figures than the ones that were perfect.. In my experience, people tend to be more vocal with their complaints than their praise.

If there's something I want in stores, whichever company makes it, I always hope there are a few to choose from so I can grab the one with the best paint.. It's not just something that you have to do with neca's figures specifically.

[Il Cattivo]

just got this guy in the mail.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Il Cattivo

just got this guy in the mail.

One of my favorite figures from "the vintage collection" right there. I always gave him Greedo's vest from the saga collection vintage figure, just because I thought he looked snazzy in an orange soft vest.

[Trivial Psychic]

My GF helped me realize a childhood dream when she picked this up for me for Christmas. As a kid, the original Terror-Drome was the one thing that I wanted more than anything else, but never was lucky enough to find under the Christmas tree. My geek spot has been hit big time.