[WalkingDeadpool]

Legends are to big..I have a few yes...But I love 4 in scale...I love How I can make dios,throw a cap in a Joe tank......6in figs take up waaaaay to much space....

[SH0CKWAVE]

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Originally Posted by synapse17

Agree, What's the retail price of Legend's, around $16.00 a fig. Their more than twice the size of Universe. And I don't think as many people collect them.
As for kids, wouldn't they want toys that could fit with and in all their Joe and Star Wars shit. I just don't see how Universe is so expensive that they couldn't do a MUCH BETER JOB!!!

Waited hours to see what's new... Apparently nothing.

I really don't like you today Hasbro...

that's where you are wrong, bro. Legends crowd has been around for a while and they're still out there, loving the news. As a new ML collector, I am excited... but bummed to see the broken 3.75" hearts all over this thread.

I've also realized that many of us who grew up in the 80s share a fondness for 3.75 scale, but kids nowadays can care less. There is no nostalgia involved for them so introducing them to Legends is not a bad move. They cost more and thus provide more revenue. Their aftermarket value is incredible and will now only rise.

If u guys can't see through that, you are blind by fever.

[D00MTR0N]

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Originally Posted by WalkingDeadpool

4in figs take up waaaaay to much space....

6in.

[WalkingDeadpool]

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Originally Posted by D00MTR0N

6in.

Yea I fixed that..LOL!!

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Things look just fine.

Really, how much more stuff can they keep showing/announcing while there's such a backlog of unreleased figures??
From a business perspective, it's stupid for them to keep making prototype with a year of inventory ready to go.
We still have (drumroll please)
Nighthawk
The MoE set
ALL of waves 18 and 19
New AvX comic packs
Old Man Logan exclusive (not some crappy repaint- YEAH!)
Electra
Emma Frost
Collusus-Juggernaut
Inhumans boxed set
That Giant Ultimo
Pending stuff like the Black Knight, Masterson Thor, Thunder Frog, etc.

Really, there's a minimum of 25-30 figures that have not hit retail in any way and we're still worried about the line?!?

That's three times the number of ML figures announced and no one is saying "The sky is falling!" over that line...

I think our love of MU (and big reveals at prior shows) has colored some of our expectations- and the occasional doomsayer that promounced the line dead only feeds into our dread that, in spite of all evidence otherwise, the line is ending.

Really, unless they officially announce something, lets go with what they actually said- that the line was pushed bak because of The Avengers and it should be easier to find new upcoming stuff.

Exactly this. I echo these sentiments word for word.

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Originally Posted by SH0CKWAVE

that's where you are wrong, bro. Legends crowd has been around for a while and they're still out there, loving the news. As a new ML collector, I am excited... but bummed to see the broken 3.75" hearts all over this thread.

I've also realized that many of us who grew up in the 80s share a fondness for 3.75 scale, but kids nowadays can care less. There is no nostalgia involved for them so introducing them to Legends is not a bad move. They cost more and thus provide more revenue. Their aftermarket value is incredible and will now only rise.

If u guys can't see through that, you are blind by fever.

Cost is a deterrent to most parents. Space can also be a deterrent. Smaller works because you can buy more, have vehicles, and still have space leftover in your play room. Whereas Legends, 20 figures will set you back. You'll never find the variant you want for a decent price, and while they have value, so does MU.

Legends is a great collector line, but it doesn't have the mass appeal smaller figures do to both kids and collectors. When kids play, they do a lot of cross line usage too, so equal scale to all pays off in the long run. Sure when younger bigger is whatever to smaller, but once kids reach that 6-10 mark they start wanting even scales.

[ludovicotek]

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Originally Posted by WalkingDeadpool

Legends are to big..I have a few yes...But I love 4 in scale...I love How I can make dios,throw a cap in a Joe tank......6in figs take up waaaaay to much space....

True Dat!!!! That's what got me into MU in the first place. Mixing in Marvel figures with my Joes and Star Wars was just too good to pass up.

I'm not agreeing that MU is coming to an end, but I can say that I feel better in my decision to get rid of the majority of my MU collection now. I lost interest with Hasbro not putting out enough product and now it looks like that trend is going to continue.

[D00MTR0N]

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Originally Posted by SH0CKWAVE

that's where you are wrong, bro. Legends crowd has been around for a while and they're still out there, loving the news. As a new ML collector, I am excited... but hummed to see the broken 3.75" hearts all over this thread.

I've also realized that many of us who grew up in the 80s share a fondness for 3.75 scale, but kids nowadays can care less. There is no nostalgia involved for them so introducing them to Legends is not a bad move. They cost more and thus provide more revenue. There aftermarket value is incredible and will now only rise.

If u guys can't see through that, you are blind by fever.

lmao,right,prolem is they wont produce "more revenue" because they dont sell,the crowd that is into this line(ML) is alot smaller then the MU crowd,also the pricepoint is a bane to this line and will only drag it down in the end,and the aftermarket I have seen is not so incredible,most comic shops I go to are crammed with these over priced too big and bulky figures,yet MU ALWAYS seem to move.

[ludovicotek]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Old Man Logan exclusive (not some crappy repaint- YEAH!)

But he is a repaint. It's the XMO:W Sabretooth head and coat kitbashed with other XMO:W pieces.

[SH0CKWAVE]

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Originally Posted by D00MTR0N

...

Stop quoting me. Stop sniffing my jock.

[D00MTR0N]

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Originally Posted by SH0CKWAVE

Stop quoting me. Stop sniffing my jock.

wtf are you even talking about?

[Jason Abbadon]

That (IM line) BAF Iron Monger will be INSANE.

God help me...I'm going to be collecting a line of 6" figures.....
(wallet crawls into a corner, sobbing)

[SH0CKWAVE]

Stop quoting me.

[FinnTheHuman]

I have to disagree. ML is and always will be a bigger market than MU. ML was here first and has been around since 2002. There's TONS of spin off lines that outnumber the 4'' movie lines as well. Overall, as good as MU may sell, it is still not the bread and butter of what the majority of collectors really want.

Of course I think MU owns ML in nearly every way, but the truth is that ML is more popular.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by ludovicotek

But he is a repaint. It's the XMO:W Sabretooth head and coat kitbashed with other XMO:W pieces.

But not something crass like that crappy Doom. at least there's new stuff- he's got that base and the Skarr baby! Very cool.

[NoodleChow]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Things look just fine.

Really, how much more stuff can they keep showing/announcing while there's such a backlog of unreleased figures??
From a business perspective, it's stupid for them to keep making prototype with a year of inventory ready to go.
We still have (drumroll please)
Nighthawk
The MoE set
ALL of waves 18 and 19
New AvX comic packs
Old Man Logan exclusive (not some crappy repaint- YEAH!)
Electra
Emma Frost
Collusus-Juggernaut
Inhumans boxed set
That Giant Ultimo
Pending stuff like the Black Knight, Masterson Thor, Thunder Frog, etc.

Really, there's a minimum of 25-30 figures that have not hit retail in any way and we're still worried about the line?!?

That's three times the number of ML figures announced and no one is saying "The sky is falling!" over that line...

I think our love of MU (and big reveals at prior shows) has colored some of our expectations- and the occasional doomsayer that promounced the line dead only feeds into our dread that, in spite of all evidence otherwise, the line is ending.

Really, unless they officially announce something, lets go with what they actually said- that the line was pushed bak because of The Avengers and it should be easier to find new upcoming stuff.

oh i agree, they did show us a ton of new things to come. though i will say old man logan is some kinda kitbash repaint of what looks like movie sabretooth. i think some of the consensus was that if they were playing their hand on showing us mysterio, rhino, and elektra in the display early that there'd be more shown at the panel. i'd just got back home and the panel was almost over and i'd hurriedly gone over to the links and clicked through the pics expecting more to be shown but found it hilarious that there were barely a handful of MU pics.
i agree that what we've seen and know to be coming out is a lot. what i didn't expect was how little MU was talked about at the panel. doomsayer or not and even with the ML branding coming back, the line as a whole does feel off. black knight? bearded thor? frog thor? no mention. just seems suspicious and not enough to alleviate the idea that the line is not business as usual.

that said, i'll still gladly continue to collect and stand by the line to whatever end.

[ludovicotek]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

But not something crass like that crappy Doom. at least there's new stuff- he's got that base and the Skarr baby! Very cool.

True. That Doom exclusive was just pitiful.

[D00MTR0N]

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Originally Posted by SH0CKWAVE

Stop quoting me. Stop sniffing my jock.

so why did you edit my post to say nothing in your bait post shockwave?grow up bro,your on a public forum,you posted something I did not agree with so I shared my opinion and you say im "sniffing your jock"?all I can do is shake my head and laugh at this.

[synapse17]

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Originally Posted by SH0CKWAVE

that's where you are wrong, bro. Legends crowd has been around for a while and they're still out there, loving the news. As a new ML collector, I am excited... but hummed to see the broken 3.75" hearts all over this thread.

I've also realized that many of us who grew up in the 80s share a fondness for 3.75 scale, but kids nowadays can care less. There is no nostalgia involved for them so introducing them to Legends is not a bad move. They cost more and thus provide more revenue. There aftermarket value is incredible and will now only rise.

If u guys can't see through that, you are blind by fever.

I get all that, I was a huge ML collector before they froze up. As for kids nostalgia, my point is having toys that can commingle with toys they already have.

Hasbro is always talking about how excpencive the MU line is when they are 1 3rd the size of ML and only 1 3rd cheaper. That seems like a freaking win win to me. I know there's more to it but the main issue seems to be getting their shit out.

If they wanted to hold off on retail because of the Avengers hype, then what they should realize is they could sell online for a slight markup. keeping the shelves clear for movie crap and still distributing MU waves online. Collectors will pay a little more to get it sooner and other will wait for retail release.

It's the age of the internet. They need to get with it. The demand is there and as they said the figures were held up because of barcode BS. So put them up on HTS and let it ride. Once the problem is fixed and Avengers hype is gone, they can slowly trickle in to the stores.

I've never seen an industry that ignored demand as much as the toy industry. Back in the day I could understand some of the logic in their decision making. But now with the internet, It's just retarded BS.

[Jason Abbadon]

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Originally Posted by NoodleChow

that said, i'll still gladly continue to collect and stand by the line to whatever end.

Right! Just so!
Besides, I can stand havng the only Black Knight for while longer...



I realy need better pics of him though...

[Kayo83]

Hey Arkers Whats good?!? Damn what kind of shit storm did I walk into . Anyways Big ups to fallen69lee04 for the custom Cable, and got this Namor by his lonesome on ebay


Some comparison shots with original

[NoodleChow]

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Originally Posted by Jason Abbadon

Right! Just so!
Besides, I can stand havng the only Black Knight for while longer...



I realy need better pics of him though...

oh hell yeah, i'd love to see embiggened pics of him. perfect custom.

[Snowflakian]

ML is great for collectors.

For kids and collectors though, MU is better. (Not saying collectors shouldn't buy ML, to each their own, just pointing out some key factors why MU is better for kids and collectors with limited space.)
You've got cross pollination of lines because kids do that anyway. You've got vehicles that take up about as much space as two ML figures but cost less. You've got GI joe shield bolsering that can help expand how kids play or collectors display.

On top of it all, let's look at the average parent. You've got 100 bucks to spend on your kid for marvel stuff in the winter holiday season.

Do you:
A. get them as much MU as you can which is anywhere from 10-13 figures.
B. Get them 6 maybe 7 ML figures.

I don't know about you, but A. seems more lucrative. Especially if they are getting other figures of that scale for the holidays. Sure while younger bigger doesn't matter, but when they hit that 6-10 mark, kids want even scales for playing what they see on tv or creating their own stories.

Both have decent resale values, but ML is nigh impossible to ever find the variant you want for a decent price. Like Blue Flame ghost rider that never even hit my area.

[bitman2]

Legends use 2X as much material(plastic, paint etc) cost $15 MU cost $9. ML cost more to make.( Why do you think there is no 6' Starwars line.Simple. MU sell more units ,takes up LESS retail space( which retailers love) is MORE in demand than Legends. I dont know how they can justify this as a revenue based decision. Only thing I can think of is they have gotten so far aheadt hey have to cool it for awhile(1 year, I hope).

[Sadisticace1091]

can someone post or link
the pics of the new figures. i wanna see the just announced

[synapse17]

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Originally Posted by Sadisticace1091

can someone post or link
the pics of the new figures. i wanna see the just announced

Dude it's 2nd link on the right toolbar on main page.

Click it scroll down.