[GizmoTron]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Agree, I felt like Bendis would take 1-2 charcters in a team book, concentrate on them, and the rest of the characters would be out of character, replaceable with anyone else, because they had an empty voice. He was great as a solo writer, beyond the total dismissal of continuity. Team books were not his forte. And neither were events, except for House Of M, which I thought was awesome even with the damage it did to Scarlet Witch's character. I don't know how he got that one so right yet every other event I read by him was trash.

House of M was a great idea through and through, but it was the start of the big events that Bendis and the rest of Marvel could come up with but not know how to plan their way out of it.

Bendis was always a great idea man like that. For instance bringing the classic X-Men to the present to confront the convoluted mess that had been modern X-Men was a great idea. Problem was he didn't seem to know what he was supposed to do with them once they got here (except to officially out Iceman and to use Kitty Pryde as his personal mouth piece and marry her off to his avatar Peter Quill, all of that he was certain about).

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

House of M was a great idea through and through, but it was the start of the big events that Bendis and the rest of Marvel could come up with but not know how to plan their way out of it.

Bendis was always a great idea man like that. For instance bringing the classic X-Men to the present to confront the convoluted mess that had been modern X-Men was a great idea. Problem was he didn't seem to know what he was supposed to do with them once they got here (except to officially out Iceman and to use Kitty Pryde as his personal mouth piece and marry her off to his avatar Peter Quill, all of that he was certain about).

yes!! (not meaning to derail the thread so I'll stop after this or carry on through PM)...it's like he had this great vision and could start off a story on it decently, but when it came down to the mechanics of actually following the entire story through to that vision, it almost always puttered out. He was great at beginnings and horrible and endings. Much better at solo books where the entire focus was on the quasi-day to day events of a person's life. In addition to being able to tell the story he wanted through one or two people, and being able to forgo the rest of the cast because they were background characters. It's not really that great to do that ina team book, but he did it anyways, time and time again.

[lordbest]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Okay. So TFA isn't the story of a plucky teenager with a quirky droid with an attitude carrying a secret message that holds the fate of the galaxy in its memory banks. They meet on a desert planet, where she later meets up with a scoundrel on the run with a heart of gold. They leave the desert planet in the Millennium Falcon of all things, and later meets a legendary war hero from the past thought long gone, who decides to help the plucky teenager and even takes her in as her mentor. She later watches this mentor die as he is killed during a rescue attempt on a death star, or in this case a star killer, by a shadowy, imposing figure in a black mask and a red laser sword...

There's more to it than that, including space princesses being tortured by shadowy masked guy, planets being blown up as "demonstrations", a race against the clock for the rebel army to save themselves, the giant death planet being extinguished by a spot internally only a small flying craft can get to, a mission to knock out shields inside the death planet where the mentor is killed, and so on and so on...

There is even a scene where a stormtrooper is thrown into a trash compactor.

Nope. I haven't seen this movie before.

While the order of some of the events are slightly different, you are kidding yourself if you think TFA is only similar to ANH in locations. There is a reason that JJ Abrams has often been reffered to as the biggest plagiarist in Hollywood.

If you simplify the plot to that extent and ignore the order and structure of the film you could probably make TFA into a remake of anything.

I haven't read a huge amount of Bendis' work, Civil War II was pretty bad (not as bad as bad as Secret Empire), but I enjoy Invincible Iron Man. I wonder who will replace him on that title?

[Black Arbor]

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Originally Posted by lordbest

If you simplify the plot to that extent and ignore the order and structure of the film you could probably make TFA into a remake of anything.

I haven't read a huge amount of Bendis' work, Civil War II was pretty bad (not as bad as bad as Secret Empire), but I enjoy Invincible Iron Man. I wonder who will replace him on that title?

Yeahhhh, I was gonna say, there are some jarring similarities but I hate when people compare two movies in vague-ish terms and say they're both exactly the same. By that logic you could say Spider-Man (2002) and Spider-Man Homecoming(2017) are the same film!

[Chris Reager]

I’m just stoked there’s a lively thread/community here for comics...the other forum I’m on is extremely threadbare, pun intended...

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I collect trades, namely of certain Marvel events and characters (favourite is Iron Man). Recently picked up Infinity, Civil War 2 and a bunch of Thief of Thieves (Image)

[Tomax]

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[Chris Reager]

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Originally Posted by Chris Reager

I’m just stoked there’s a lively thread/community here for comics...the other forum I’m on is extremely threadbare, pun intended...

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I collect trades, namely of certain Marvel events and characters (favourite is Iron Man). Recently picked up Infinity, Civil War 2 and a bunch of Thief of Thieves (Image)

Guess not.

...and CBR is no better.

[uchikuri]

marvel comocs are my favorite ones, you know

[SWDanny]

I started collecting comics in the DC universe in the late 1950's, and switched to Marvel around 1967. Wish I'd got in sooner on the Marvel train, but at that time it wasn't hugely expensive to buy back issues. Stopped collecting around 1972. Amazingly, I still have all my comics I collected as a kid. Loved Marvel, but my personal favorite is Russ Manning's 22 issues of "Magnus Robot Fighter" (1963) I can still remember walking into Kinkers drug store in Flint, MI in January 1963, (9 yrs old),and being drawn to the painted cover of issue #1. Still have it.

[Exodus]

Interesting way the X-Titles are going now.