[Boy Blunder]

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Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

Never understood why this guy called himself The Jackal when he looks like a hairy naked version of Green Goblin.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

My g/f said the same thing when I got the figure. Not to mention she says he doesn't even look like a jackal.

Yeah, if anything, he looks like he should be called The Gremlin or something. Apparently, he's now a human/jackal hybrid thanks to genetic modification? Also, according to a browse around TVTropes, "Originally, no real reason was given for why he had a thing for jackals, though in 1995 the one-shot Scarlet Spider Unlimited revealed that he was once an associate of the High-Evolutionary, and that one of their creations was a man-jackal that ended up killing Warren's family."

At least one of his more recent designs, he runs around with an Anubis mask.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Hasbro pretty much made their SDCC a complete waste. Sure, Purple Man is my favorite of the set and I prefer the Abomination colors from that, but there was no need for it to exist at all. They could have just done a Dare Devil set and had Purple Man in that with Kingpin and Bullseye.

I'd agree for the most part, but honestly I doubt we'd ever have gotten a Dreadknight without the set, and if we had, I don't know that we would have gotten as nice of a deco. The rest of the figures were arguably better in their retail versions, and Kilgrave's presence in Jessica Jones would likely lead to a single-pack release for him at some point or another.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder

At least one of his more recent designs, he runs around with an Anubis mask.

Some spoilers here but the Jackal wearing the Anubis mask with the red suit isn't Miles Warren, it's SPOILER Ben Reilly END SPOILER.

Regarding the furry green Jackal look, in some cultures jackal is a word that's synonymous with demon or monster and not just the name of a type of canine so maybe that context is where the name was meant to come from.

[Boy Blunder]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Some spoilers here but the Jackal wearing the Anubis mask with the red suit isn't Miles Warren, it's SPOILER.

Oh, for goodness sake. I'm gonna facepalm myself to the moon with this reveal.

[EvilMonkeyPope]

There's also folklore of jackals being grave robbers, akin to cloning dead folks.
I'm disappointed with Shocker. His quilted padding is merely painted on, the vibro-gauntlets just look like normal armor instead of tech gauntlets, the charged-up energy effect color is too close to his costume color, & they didn't make a new blasting effect for him.
Sandman with veins still looks wrong.

[Dr Kain]

I fail to see how the quilted pattern on Shocker being painted is a negative.

[EvilMonkeyPope]

Quilts have three dimensions. Hasbro shouldn't cheap out with just paint.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by EvilMonkeyPope

Quilts have three dimensions. Hasbro shouldn't cheap out with just paint.

It's a toy. And why would they go out of their way to sculpt an entirely new body that can never be reused?

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

It's a toy. And why would they go out of their way to sculpt an entirely new body that can never be reused?

Furthermore, I'm not sure that Shocker's suit literally has quilt qualities. Especially since this is his new suit it's possible he wears something smooth but keeps the grid pattern because he just likes it and wants to keep what recognition he has, the guy's insecure.

[EvilMonkeyPope]

The Shocker was pioneer in having a practical costume as the padding was for his protection. Making it a 2-D pattern instead of texture is less interesting & a cop-out by Hasbro. You'd think they could afford to put in as much new tooling as needed for a classic villain.

[Jeddostotle7]

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Originally Posted by EvilMonkeyPope

The Shocker was pioneer in having a practical costume as the padding was for his protection. Making it a 2-D pattern instead of texture is less interesting & a cop-out by Hasbro. You'd think they could afford to put in as much new tooling as needed for a classic villain.

Looking at his modern Superior Foes of Spider-Man costume (that's what this figure is based on), it looks very much like the criss-cross patterning is 2D. So a painted pattern works, at least for this figure. Also, at least when it comes to Marvel Legends, Hasbro doesn't make new tooling for a whole body for a non-BAF/non-MCU figure unless they're absolutely sure they can use it again in future, and even with those exceptions I stated, they often try to find ways to reuse it. Making a new body with a baggier-ly-clothed torso and chainmail arms/legs? So far, they've already used it for three characters (Hobgoblin, Dreadknight, Green Goblin), and can use it for even more in future. A body with a raised quilt pattern on specific areas which are specific to the classic costume of Shocker? Not much reuse potential.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by EvilMonkeyPope

The Shocker was pioneer in having a practical costume as the padding was for his protection. Making it a 2-D pattern instead of texture is less interesting & a cop-out by Hasbro. You'd think they could afford to put in as much new tooling as needed for a classic villain.

I'm just happy to have Shocker.

[Boy Blunder]

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Originally Posted by EvilMonkeyPope

The Shocker was pioneer in having a practical costume as the padding was for his protection. Making it a 2-D pattern instead of texture is less interesting & a cop-out by Hasbro. You'd think they could afford to put in as much new tooling as needed for a classic villain.

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7

Looking at his modern Superior Foes of Spider-Man costume (that's what this figure is based on), it looks very much like the criss-cross patterning is 2D. So a painted pattern works, at least for this figure. Also, at least when it comes to Marvel Legends, Hasbro doesn't make new tooling for a whole body for a non-BAF/non-MCU figure unless they're absolutely sure they can use it again in future, and even with those exceptions I stated, they often try to find ways to reuse it. Making a new body with a baggier-ly-clothed torso and chainmail arms/legs? So far, they've already used it for three characters (Hobgoblin, Dreadknight, Green Goblin), and can use it for even more in future. A body with a raised quilt pattern on specific areas which are specific to the classic costume of Shocker? Not much reuse potential.

Exactly. Would I prefer a quilted Shocker? Yes, absolutely. But between the tooling costs and his Superior Foes art, I think the one we got is just fine. As Shocker has stated in the comics, he keeps updating his tech on a regular basis - what's to say he's not just double-layering neoprene into his suit these days for shock absorption purposes? He's already worked in vibro-pads, and those haven't noticeably bulked out his costume any.

With all the newer bodies that Hasbro is introducing/plans on introducing, I'd say that an excuse like this, to reuse an old one and recoup some costs on that, are just fine.

[Parademon1]

Is it just me or does the Jackal body not scream "Perez Beast". Just need a Beast head sculpt on that body plus the blueish paint job & there ya go.

[Enigma2K2]

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Cons
No web shooting hands
poor paint application of a great design

Overall
Symbiote Spider-Man is kind of a let down. Between the awful white paint application and the missing web shooting hands it’s one of the few Spider Man figures that Hasbro has done that did not live up to the hype. If you plan

Webbing comes from the top of his hands. His fists ARE his web shooting hands. That's why this is pretty much my favorite Symbiote Spidey figure.. They finally got it right, ironically.

[Enigma2K2]

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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder

Oh, for goodness sake. I'm gonna facepalm myself to the moon with this reveal.

You think that's bad, wait until you see how they try to make sense of him and his actions. SPOILER: They don't.