[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

Eternia cost $550, plus $50 shipping,

No offense, but what does Eternia have to do with Hasbro? That's from Mattel and a Mattel created property. They aren't paying licensing costs.

Secondly, I find the fact that Mattel is charging $550 and then ANOTHER $50 for shipping to be insane. The cost of shipping should just be included in the price of the item. Make it $600 shipped.

That's like those ebay sellers who will sell an auction for like $1000 but then still want to charge a shipping cost. No, at that price include it in the asking price.

Finally, I don't give a crap about Eternia because I don't collect He-Man. And honestly, even if I did, $600 is way overpriced for a playset.

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but it’s way more iconic than an 8 year old Ghost Riders car

Never going to deny that, as you are right.

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No one said they are forcing anyone to do anything, clearly they aren’t because so far it’s been a bit of a failure, but people are allowed an opinion my guy, and are allowed to express them, and what better place than a toy forum.

My issue is not thinking it is overpriced, it is the sheer arrogance of people like Anthony's Customs that think they know Hasbro's own inner workings better than the people that are employed there.

None of us know what it exactly costs to make the car. Hell, even at $350 Hasbro could still be taking a loss, which is why they needed 9,000 to go ahead with it. That could be their breaking even point. Or maybe it could be that 5,000 is their breaking even point so they needed almost double that to justify the cost of production.

The fact that some random Youtuber thinks he knows better is laughable and this is coming from another Youtuber.

[firmpulse]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Why are detractors continuing to comment on this thread? It’s done. You won; the lab has all but officially failed. Apparently, victory in this case wasn’t sweet enough of a reward. I personally can’t wait to see a HasLab Blackbird for twice the amount of this one and the pretzels X-fans will contort themselves into to rationalize why it’ll be worth it.

Rationalization is a state of being for X-Fans. With the exception of House/Powers of X (but they even fucked that up in the end) those books have been utter shit since the mid-90s. In the X-World days of the week are tallied by character death. Jean Grey dead? Tuesday! Logan? Wednesday!

[GizmoTron]

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Originally Posted by T0ySick

Eternia isn't just worth it becuase people like it and that makes it worth it. For the amount of plastic used and tooling cost alone the price is justified.

I have no interest in it. But I know its worth what they are charging.

Yeah, it's really not, but this is literally the only way most MOTU fans are ever going to get one which is really why it succeeded. When you have a built in fanbase that wants something then (to a point) price doesn't matter.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by firmpulse

Rationalization is a state of being for X-Fans. With the exception of House/Powers of X (but they even fucked that up in the end) those books have been utter shit since the mid-90s. In the X-World days of the week are tallied by character death. Jean Grey dead? Tuesday! Logan? Wednesday!

I don’t even chop it up with X-men fans beyond a certain window: Claremont - Byrne/Smith/JRJR/Silvestri. It’s not out of hate, or animus, I simply lost interest in the squad after those years and have only read/followed-up sporadically. It does sound like things are a mess in X-Land tho'...

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

Yeah, it's really not, but this is literally the only way most MOTU fans are ever going to get one which is really why it succeeded. When you have a built in fanbase that wants something then (to a point) price doesn't matter.

I’ve thought the same things while consuming the feedback here on the Ark for both projects. It’s been interesting watching as a (largely) third-party observer.

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

If we are all being honest with each other, is any of the stuff we buy really worth it? Probably not in most cases, take Super7’s Thundertank, no way that’s worth $500, did I consider buying it? Yeah I did, am I still considering it? sadly yes I am, my only justifications is the thing is huge and it’s the freaking THUNDERTANK.

Hey look, over 5 thousand people thought this car was worth backing at one point, well over 4 thousand still do, but something tells me that Hasbro themselves felt this was lacking, hence the Mephisto fig being locked behind it. I won’t comment on this again, I don’t want to rub people up the wrong way.

You don't have to refrain from commenting, it’s not really an issue for me, or, I imagine, any of the other people that genuinely wanted Mephisto, Robbie, and whomever else they had planned. My point, if there is one, is more about there being nothing left to really say. And if the people that actually wanted this shit aren’t belaboring the issue, then what sense is there in those who’ve been opposed from the start continuing to beat this same horse. For example, I think that Eternia playset is complete trash and looks goofy as hell. It absolutely is not worth the money given its preschool design sensibilities and to boot, it also looks like that same cheap plastic they used to make those green cobblestone tiles and stands years ago. Those things cracked and split with the normal attrition of seasons spent in INDOOR storage. But I’m not going to go over to the playset thread and trash it, or the people that want it. To do so would be a waste of my time considering I see zero value in the set and view it as a non-factor and unworthy of my attention.

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

No offense, but what does Eternia have to do with Hasbro? That's from Mattel and a Mattel created property. They aren't paying licensing costs.

Secondly, I find the fact that Mattel is charging $550 and then ANOTHER $50 for shipping to be insane. The cost of shipping should just be included in the price of the item. Make it $600 shipped.

That's like those ebay sellers who will sell an auction for like $1000 but then still want to charge a shipping cost. No, at that price include it in the asking price.

Finally, I don't give a crap about Eternia because I don't collect He-Man. And honestly, even if I did, $600 is way overpriced for a playset.



Never going to deny that, as you are right.



My issue is not thinking it is overpriced, it is the sheer arrogance of people like Anthony's Customs that think they know Hasbro's own inner workings better than the people that are employed there.

None of us know what it exactly costs to make the car. Hell, even at $350 Hasbro could still be taking a loss, which is why they needed 9,000 to go ahead with it. That could be their breaking even point. Or maybe it could be that 5,000 is their breaking even point so they needed almost double that to justify the cost of production.

The fact that some random Youtuber thinks he knows better is laughable and this is coming from another Youtuber.

I’m not trying to sound like a dick here my guy, truly I’m not, but you’re still not getting my point, I’m probably not just being clear enough, I’m not trying to compare this to Eternia, i mention Eternia as a rebuttal to your comment ‘if people won’t pay $350 for this they sure won’t pay X amount for a Blackbird’ (not an exact quote), which seems to imply you think people aren’t willing to part with that amount of cash for a toy, which obviously isn’t true, they just aren’t willing to part with it for this car, or at least not enough people are.

I completely agree Eternia is overpriced, and they really should have just made it $600 and had ‘free shipping’ so to speak, I live in the U.K. and if I wanted it, I’d be paying £800, now that’s a joke.

Im not going to pretend to know the inner workings of Hasbro, or how much the production on this thing would be, but my gut tells me it’s overpriced, maybe not if it reached all tiers, but tiers are supposed to be bonuses and not reflect the initial cost.

The only ‘toy’ YouTuber I currently watch is ‘Mad Hatter Review’, pretty funny guy and he isn’t getting stuff sent to him for free, so his reviews are fairly honest.

No hard feelings hey, I’m not trying to make enemies on here, I just wanna talk about toys with like minded souls.

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

You don't have to refrain from commenting, it’s not really an issue for me, or, I imagine, any of the other people that genuinely wanted Mephisto, Robbie, and whomever else they had planned. My point, if there is one, is more about there being nothing left to really say. And if the people that actually wanted this shit aren’t belaboring the issue, then what sense is there in those who’ve been opposed from the start continuing to beat this same horse. For example, I think that Eternia playset is complete trash and looks goofy as hell. It absolutely is not worth the money given its preschool design sensibilities and to boot, it also looks like that same cheap plastic they used to make those green cobblestone tiles and stands years ago. Those things cracked and split with the normal attrition of seasons spent in INDOOR storage. But I’m not going to go over to the playset thread and trash it, or the people that want it. To do so would be a waste of my time considering I see zero value in the set and view it as a non-factor and unworthy of my attention.

Yeah to be fair I did reignite this thread, but only to comment on the falling numbers, it’s an interesting and still ongoing topic dude, I’d try taking to my wife about it, but I know she wouldn’t give a shit, so I come here. I still see chatter about the Rancor and Reva’s lightsaber, this Haslab is no different. I’m not here to trash the thing, its a cool enough car, and Mephisto and Goblin Queen are decent looking figures, and I would NEVER trash the people that want it, I get the desire, you think I don’t want things that are overpriced? You think I’ve never fed a scalper?

I agree with you on Eternia to an extent, I don’t think it’s trash, but it is overpriced, and I’m not into the old school toy thing anyway, I was there the first time around back in the 80’s, I don’t need to be there again, but I appreciate what Origins is trying to do, and obviously lots of people dig it, and the Eternia playset has been a wet dream of some MOTU fans for decades at this point, so good luck to them.

[GizmoTron]

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

I’m not trying to sound like a dick here my guy, truly I’m not, but you’re still not getting my point, I’m probably not just being clear enough, I’m not trying to compare this to Eternia, i mention Eternia as a rebuttal to your comment ‘if people won’t pay $350 for this they sure won’t pay X amount for a Blackbird’ (not an exact quote), which seems to imply you think people aren’t willing to part with that amount of cash for a toy, which obviously isn’t true, they just aren’t willing to part with it for this car, or at least not enough people are.

I completely agree Eternia is overpriced, and they really should have just made it $600 and had ‘free shipping’ so to speak, I live in the U.K. and if I wanted it, I’d be paying £800, now that’s a joke.

Im not going to pretend to know the inner workings of Hasbro, or how much the production on this thing would be, but my gut tells me it’s overpriced, maybe not if it reached all tiers, but tiers are supposed to be bonuses and not reflect the initial cost.

The only ‘toy’ YouTuber I currently watch is ‘Mad Hatter Review’, pretty funny guy and he isn’t getting stuff sent to him for free, so his reviews are fairly honest.

No hard feelings hey, I’m not trying to make enemies on here, I just wanna talk about toys with like minded souls.

My gut from the get go was saying going with Ghost Rider for a HasLab was risky, but that price point reveal was just a punch to it.

Truth is I think most of our guts agree with yours. Yeah, given the limited nature of HasLab and the lack of retailer backing power it probably would cost Hasbro enough to produce this thing to warrant the $350 price tag, but that all doesn't change the fact the value doesn't feel like it's here for most fans.

And there's probably a few reasons people have come to that same conclusion, but it's clear the over-whelming majority just aren't interested (no matter how many "most wanted" figures they add in through the tiers).

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

My gut from the get go was saying going with Ghost Rider for a HasLab was risky, but that price point reveal was just a punch to it.

Truth is I think most of our guts agree with yours. Yeah, given the limited nature of HasLab and the lack of retailer backing power it probably would cost Hasbro enough to produce this thing to warrant the $350 price tag, but that all doesn't change the fact the value doesn't feel like it's here for most fans.

And there's probably a few reasons people have come to that same conclusion, but it's clear the over-whelming majority just aren't interested (no matter how many "most wanted" figures they add in through the tiers).

I think there is an argument that all these crowd funding toy projects are overpriced, I get the production costs, and I of course expect the company to want a profit, so I guess it boils down to the project itself.
I completely agree that Ghost Rider was a risky Haslab, especially a Robbie Reyes one, I’m not even sure if a cheaper price point would have made it a success, I remember as a kid I desired a huge Sentinel to go with my X-Men figures so bad, I even recall feeling that way about a Galactus figure too, I think all successful projects so far have managed to tap into that lifelong desire, Jabbas barge, the Hiss Tank, Eternia, even Super7 managed to flog a Thundertank for $500!

When all is said and done though, I think it’s just a shame, it’s a shame the fans that want this probably won’t be getting it, it’s a shame the fans desperate for a Mephisto figure are back to square one, it’s a shame for Hasbro who will have already spent a bit of money on promoting this. Let’s hope the next Haslab has that wow factor and can unite collectors in an ‘this is awesome’ kind of way.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

Yeah to be fair I did reignite this thread, but only to comment on the falling numbers, it’s an interesting and still ongoing topic dude, I’d try taking to my wife about it, but I know she wouldn’t give a shit, so I come here. I still see chatter about the Rancor and Reva’s lightsaber, this Haslab is no different. I’m not here to trash the thing, its a cool enough car, and Mephisto and Goblin Queen are decent looking figures, and I would NEVER trash the people that want it, I get the desire, you think I don’t want things that are overpriced? You think I’ve never fed a scalper?

I agree with you on Eternia to an extent, I don’t think it’s trash, but it is overpriced, and I’m not into the old school toy thing anyway, I was there the first time around back in the 80’s, I don’t need to be there again, but I appreciate what Origins is trying to do, and obviously lots of people dig it, and the Eternia playset has been a wet dream of some MOTU fans for decades at this point, so good luck to them.

No worries, I don’t view anything you’ve offered in the way of comments as offensive. However, you’ve potentially read the thread through and should be able to see that there’s been a vociferous few that have done nothing but shit-talk this project making one wonder why they would participate so very often if they don’t give two shits about the Lab itself. By the way, I had a laugh (with you, I hope ) at the scenario with your wife. I only choose women that share a healthy interest in my interests, but that’s not always easy to come by and I’ve been very fortunate in that regard throughout my life.

We don’t line up on how much of a conversational point this HasLab remains to be, as the Marvel Legends team itself seems content to let this trickle away with nary a whimper and I’m inclined to allow them to do so. There are but so many ways to say, “Hasbro fucked up” before you find yourself saying, “up fucked Hasbro.” The numbers are going to keep falling. They know. We know. Nuff said, the countdown to zero includes no prize for anyone…unless Hasbro’s official failure brings some sense of joy.

About the Eternia playset, I was a kid of the 80’s as well and MOTU designs quickly gave way to my interest in other action figures with more realistic proportions and conveyances that look like they might actually work, or at least fit comfortably the figures for which they’d been developed. Nostalgia doesn’t drive me in that regard; I’m not interested in the past being revisited anachronistically; I want properties updated to take advantage of modern sensibilities/manufacturing techniques/standards while also reflecting the essence of whatever the license might be. I used to enjoy 5POA and Playdoh Playsets, but I’d never buy those things now out of nostalgia because my tastes have changed dramatically and this transition happened a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

I think there is an argument that all these crowd funding toy projects are overpriced, I get the production costs, and I of course expect the company to want a profit, so I guess it boils down to the project itself.
I completely agree that Ghost Rider was a risky Haslab, especially a Robbie Reyes one, I’m not even sure if a cheaper price point would have made it a success, I remember as a kid I desired a huge Sentinel to go with my X-Men figures so bad, I even recall feeling that way about a Galactus figure too, I think all successful projects so far have managed to tap into that lifelong desire, Jabbas barge, the Hiss Tank, Eternia, even Super7 managed to flog a Thundertank for $500!

When all is said and done though, I think it’s just a shame, it’s a shame the fans that want this probably won’t be getting it, it’s a shame the fans desperate for a Mephisto figure are back to square one, it’s a shame for Hasbro who will have already spent a bit of money on promoting this. Let’s hope the next Haslab has that wow factor and can unite collectors in an ‘this is awesome’ kind of way.

All toys are luxuries, in my opinion, whether they are $20, or $200. All of these HasLabs are risky, yet some act like these Labs are money printing machines designed exclusively to bilk consumers with zero potential downside to the manufacturer. Personally, I obviously think these labs are pretty cool as opportunities to get some spectacular shit; I’ve 4 Sentinels (had 5, but gave one away to a close buddy) and I just received 5 Galactus Labs. They’re pricey, I can afford them, and I knew what I was doing when I bought them. In a year, or two, I’ll sell the surplus and more than recoup my money spent using the profit to further propel my collection. I’ve been buying expensive toys since I was a kid. My tastes in Godaikin robots and everything Japanese as a child quickly had my parents rethinking the token-economy they’d set up with me as an incentive for doing well in school. At 14 I secured a worker’s permit and, of course, my first job was at a mom & pop toystore in my hometown. I haven’t looked back since, working from 14 years old to make sure I’m in a position to enjoy at least some of the aspects I dig in life. As you alluded to, none of these toys are actually worth what’s being asked. If you can’t eat it for sustenance, use it as a tool to fix something, or barter with it in a meaningful way, it’s an amenity.

The idea that there is some sort parity between toy cost and actual value is a myth I disabused myself of even as a child. What can happen, though, depending on your taste in toys, is that you’ll nab something that ends up being a collector’s item that accrues in value exponentially. I genuinely believe that Hasbro is offering these sorts of opportunities with their HasLabs. However, depending on the dial-up, consumers will be fickle. I do worry that HasLabs will go the way of the dodo once Hasbro filters through the fallout from these failures and determines this is no longer worth the effort and potential bad social-media footprint given the spectator sport it has become and the inclusion of bad-faith actors who never had any intention to follow though on support. I don’t believe these HasLabs have achieved profitability, nor do I think they constitute a significant money-making arm of what Hasbro does in the big scheme of things. I simply hope we reach the point of a getting a Blackbird, so I can make some of those X-Fanatic toy-monies.

[GizmoTron]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

No worries, I don’t view anything you’ve offered in the way of comments as offensive. However, you’ve potentially read the thread through and should be able to see that there’s been a vociferous few that have done nothing but shit-talk this project making one wonder why they would participate so very often if they don’t give two shits about the Lab itself. By the way, I had a laugh (with you, I hope ) at the scenario with your wife. I only choose women that share a healthy interest in my interests, but that’s not always easy to come by and I’ve been very fortunate in that regard throughout my life.

We don’t line up on how much of a conversational point this HasLab remains to be, as the Marvel Legends team itself seems content to let this trickle away with nary a whimper and I’m inclined to allow them to do so. There are but so many ways to say, “Hasbro fucked up” before you find yourself saying, “up fucked Hasbro.” The numbers are going to keep falling. They know. We know. Nuff said, the countdown to zero includes no prize for anyone…unless Hasbro’s official failure brings some sense of joy.

About the Eternia playset, I was a kid of the 80’s as well and MOTU designs quickly gave way to my interest in other action figures with more realistic proportions and conveyances that look like they might actually work, or at least fit comfortably the figures for which they’d been developed. Nostalgia doesn’t drive me in that regard; I’m not interested in the past being revisited anachronistically; I want properties updated to take advantage of modern sensibilities/manufacturing techniques/standards while also reflecting the essence of whatever the license might be. I used to enjoy 5POA and Playdoh Playsets, but I’d never buy those things now out of nostalgia because my tastes have changed dramatically and this transition happened a long time ago.



All toys are luxuries, in my opinion, whether they are $20, or $200. All of these HasLabs are risky, yet some act like these Labs are money printing machines designed exclusively to bilk consumers with zero potential downside to the manufacturer. Personally, I obviously think these labs are pretty cool as opportunities to get some spectacular shit; I’ve 4 Sentinels (had 5, but gave one away to a close buddy) and I just received 5 Galactus Labs. They’re pricey, I can afford them, and I knew what I was doing when I bought them. In a year, or two, I’ll sell the surplus and more than recoup my money spent using the profit to further propel my collection. I’ve been buying expensive toys since I was a kid. My tastes in Godaikin robots and everything Japanese as a child quickly had my parents rethinking the token-economy they’d set up with me as an incentive for doing well in school. At 14 I secured a worker’s permit and, of course, my first job was at a mom & pop toystore in my hometown. I haven’t looked back since, working from 14 years old to make sure I’m in a position to enjoy at least some of the aspects I dig in life. As you alluded to, none of these toys are actually worth what’s being asked. If you can’t eat it for sustenance, use it as a tool to fix something, or barter with it in a meaningful way, it’s an amenity.

The idea that there is some sort parity between toy cost and actual value is a myth I disabused myself of even as a child. What can happen, though, depending on your taste in toys, is that you’ll nab something that ends up being a collector’s item that accrues in value exponentially. I genuinely believe that Hasbro is offering these sorts of opportunities with their HasLabs. However, depending on the dial-up, consumers will be fickle. I do worry that HasLabs will go the way of the dodo once Hasbro filters through the fallout from these failures and determines this is no longer worth the effort and potential bad social-media footprint given the spectator sport it has become and the inclusion of bad-faith actors who never had any intention to follow though on support. I don’t believe these HasLabs have achieved profitability, nor do I think they constitute a significant money-making arm of what Hasbro does in the big scheme of things. I simply hope we reach the point of a getting a Blackbird, so I can make some of those X-Fanatic toy-monies.

Of course cost is a fact, but value is personal and subjective. I have no problem with anyone who doesn't see a Ghost Rider car as worth a $350 investment because I totally get it. Only issue I ever find is with those that complain how every toy is overpriced yet for some reason buys it all anyway, which is "bad-faith" indeed.

As for the Blackbird, I would be shocked if it ever happens. As a HasLab it would $800+ easily, and I just don't think the market is there for that no matter how many dwindling X-fans are still left out there buying action figures.

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

No worries, I don’t view anything you’ve offered in the way of comments as offensive. However, you’ve potentially read the thread through and should be able to see that there’s been a vociferous few that have done nothing but shit-talk this project making one wonder why they would participate so very often if they don’t give two shits about the Lab itself. By the way, I had a laugh (with you, I hope ) at the scenario with your wife. I only choose women that share a healthy interest in my interests, but that’s not always easy to come by and I’ve been very fortunate in that regard throughout my life.

We don’t line up on how much of a conversational point this HasLab remains to be, as the Marvel Legends team itself seems content to let this trickle away with nary a whimper and I’m inclined to allow them to do so. There are but so many ways to say, “Hasbro fucked up” before you find yourself saying, “up fucked Hasbro.” The numbers are going to keep falling. They know. We know. Nuff said, the countdown to zero includes no prize for anyone…unless Hasbro’s official failure brings some sense of joy.

About the Eternia playset, I was a kid of the 80’s as well and MOTU designs quickly gave way to my interest in other action figures with more realistic proportions and conveyances that look like they might actually work, or at least fit comfortably the figures for which they’d been developed. Nostalgia doesn’t drive me in that regard; I’m not interested in the past being revisited anachronistically; I want properties updated to take advantage of modern sensibilities/manufacturing techniques/standards while also reflecting the essence of whatever the license might be. I used to enjoy 5POA and Playdoh Playsets, but I’d never buy those things now out of nostalgia because my tastes have changed dramatically and this transition happened a long time ago.



All toys are luxuries, in my opinion, whether they are $20, or $200. All of these HasLabs are risky, yet some act like these Labs are money printing machines designed exclusively to bilk consumers with zero potential downside to the manufacturer. Personally, I obviously think these labs are pretty cool as opportunities to get some spectacular shit; I’ve 4 Sentinels (had 5, but gave one away to a close buddy) and I just received 5 Galactus Labs. They’re pricey, I can afford them, and I knew what I was doing when I bought them. In a year, or two, I’ll sell the surplus and more than recoup my money spent using the profit to further propel my collection. I’ve been buying expensive toys since I was a kid. My tastes in Godaikin robots and everything Japanese as a child quickly had my parents rethinking the token-economy they’d set up with me as an incentive for doing well in school. At 14 I secured a worker’s permit and, of course, my first job was at a mom & pop toystore in my hometown. I haven’t looked back since, working from 14 years old to make sure I’m in a position to enjoy at least some of the aspects I dig in life. As you alluded to, none of these toys are actually worth what’s being asked. If you can’t eat it for sustenance, use it as a tool to fix something, or barter with it in a meaningful way, it’s an amenity.

The idea that there is some sort parity between toy cost and actual value is a myth I disabused myself of even as a child. What can happen, though, depending on your taste in toys, is that you’ll nab something that ends up being a collector’s item that accrues in value exponentially. I genuinely believe that Hasbro is offering these sorts of opportunities with their HasLabs. However, depending on the dial-up, consumers will be fickle. I do worry that HasLabs will go the way of the dodo once Hasbro filters through the fallout from these failures and determines this is no longer worth the effort and potential bad social-media footprint given the spectator sport it has become and the inclusion of bad-faith actors who never had any intention to follow though on support. I don’t believe these HasLabs have achieved profitability, nor do I think they constitute a significant money-making arm of what Hasbro does in the big scheme of things. I simply hope we reach the point of a getting a Blackbird, so I can make some of those X-Fanatic toy-monies.

To be fair to her she’s alright, she’s a major nerd for Harry Potter, something I won’t entertain, so she’s got her own fandom and I have mine, and she does pass the odd ‘oh that’s cool’ comment to some of the figs I bring into the house, but yeah I don’t think she’s ever even heard of a Haslab.

Agreed completely about the retro stuff, I have zero interest in origins or Re-action figures and the like, I want the best versions of the toys I had as a kid, not the same. I understand the appeal though, and I’ve seen comments from a lot of Dads enjoying these figures with their children, for that alone I’m glad these figures exist.

I also agree with your sentiments in regards to the potential for value growth, I genuinely think Mephisto would go for £80-£100 on the secondary market, possibly the same for Goblin Queen, I almost bought the Hiss Tank just purely to flip it, I know those included figures are numbered, completists gotta complete and they are gonna want them. FYI I don’t scalp, anything I ever resell is done on an auction basis, collectors are big enough to know themselves what they are willing to pay. I’m collecting NECA’s toon TMNT line, I recently got everything they offered on Targets Geek out event, I purposely bought multiple Usagi Yojimbo’s to sell on to try and recoup the shipping costs and potentially take a bit of the sting out of what I paid for the figures, that toy is near impossible to get in the U.K. and I know he is highly sought after, needless to say my plan was a success.

I guess I should rephrase what I’m saying, to call this overpriced suggests I don’t think other things are too, I guess it’s more it lacks the X Factor that a Haslab needs to succeed in my opinion, it’s still not the worst Haslab decision that’s been made though, Reva’s lightsaber holds that position until further notice…in my ever humble opinion of course.

[T0ySick]

This Haslab is a rip off!

[Dolemite]

Dropped to 4,838. This HasLab is doomed.

[T0ySick]

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Dropped to 4,838. This HasLab is doomed.

And a rip off

[Boogieman4hire]

l made my peace with this a couple of weeks ago. Sucks that Robbie likely won't make it but there's plus sides. As per usual when you collect there is ALWAYS something to buy. I was tired of the mortification of whether or not he'd make it so sadly I dropped out. I feel like even if there is the last minute surge we're not getting the stretch goals. At least not all of them, and Mephisto is my giant ass panda.

But cancelling has cleared up money for some wants. I finally got a Dick Tracy Playmates car which has been on my list for years, the Jada Toys Creature from the Black Lagoon, a few of those Amazon deals on Marvel legends, and I'm halfway on building Ursa Major. I was just going to try and skip the wave but the thought of not having him in my collection was.... unbearable.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire

l made my peace with this a couple of weeks ago. Sucks that Robbie likely won't make it but there's plus sides. As per usual when you collect there is ALWAYS something to buy. I was tired of the mortification of whether or not he'd make it so sadly I dropped out. I feel like even if there is the last minute surge we're not getting the stretch goals. At least not all of them, and Mephisto is my giant ass panda.

But cancelling has cleared up money for some wants. I finally got a Dick Tracy Playmates car which has been on my list for years, the Jada Toys Creature from the Black Lagoon, a few of those Amazon deals on Marvel legends, and I'm halfway on building Ursa Major. I was just going to try and skip the wave but the thought of not having him in my collection was.... unbearable.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by T0ySick

And a rip off

Except, not.

I have no interest in it because I don't care about Robbie, but people would have gotten a 1:12 scaled car with excessively detail interiors, optional ways to display it, lights, and some cool figures to boot.

[T0ySick]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Except, not.

I have no interest in it because I don't care about Robbie, but people would have gotten a 1:12 scaled car with excessively detail interiors, optional ways to display it, lights, and some cool figures to boot.

Yes but its also a rip off!

[Dolemite]

It's totally a a rip off. That's why it's failing.

[Condiment King]

Ok, we can pretty soon put this Haslab behind us, but I have just seen something on the pulse site that made me think of discussions on here regarding the possibility of a Blackbird, Hasbro currently have a 19 inch auto transforming Optimus Prime available for a whopping thousand pounds, it’s not a Haslab, not a crowd fund in any way, it’s just there, you want it then you order it. If they can offer this, they can offer a Blackbird

[GizmoTron]

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Originally Posted by Condiment King

Ok, we can pretty soon put this Haslab behind us, but I have just seen something on the pulse site that made me think of discussions on here regarding the possibility of a Blackbird, Hasbro currently have a 19 inch auto transforming Optimus Prime available for a whopping thousand pounds, it’s not a Haslab, not a crowd fund in any way, it’s just there, you want it then you order it. If they can offer this, they can offer a Blackbird

It's less a question of price and more a question of market. There's probably enough techy types out there that would be interested in a self-changing Transformer, but I have doubts that there's enough Legends fans interested in the Blackbird to shell out the cash for such a project.

[ThorOdinson123]

Ding Dong the Haslab is dead

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While it comes as no surprise, the Hasbro Marvel Legends HasLab Engine of Vengeance campaign has ended and it did not meet it's minimum funding goal of 9k backers. As of midnight the campaign had 5,060 Backers.

https://marvelousnews.com/252-31927?...medium=twitter

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

It's less a question of price and more a question of market. There's probably enough techy types out there that would be interested in a self-changing Transformer, but I have doubts that there's enough Legends fans interested in the Blackbird to shell out the cash for such a project.

It’s a good job Super7 don’t have those reservations, they’ve got the balls to put out a $500 vehicle based on a cartoon that’s not been on TV for about 30 years, meanwhile Hasbro don’t have the nerve to put out arguably Marvels most iconic vehicle, based on a hugely popular property, that’s had 13 movies in my lifetime and many more to come, 3 cartoons, 1 anime, continuous merchandise and an on going comic since the 70’s with more spin offs than you can count.

[Condiment King]

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Originally Posted by ThorOdinson123

Ding Dong the Haslab is dead



https://marvelousnews.com/252-31927?...medium=twitter

Whilst I’m not exactly relishing this failure, I did have a chuckle at the comments on that link, some people really aren’t taking this well and will defend Hasbro with their last breath

[Cyclopswc]

I feel sorry for those that wanted it. I would have gladly paid $150 ($200 tops) for it, I do like Reyes and his Charger, but $350 was just way out there. I have no doubt Mephisto and other figures will see their release eventually, perhaps in an exclusive pack, so I wouldn't fret about that. I just hope Hasbro learn from their failures.