[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by cidman911

And thanks for The Watcher Marvel Select heads up. I'll wait until the month before they come out to pre-order. A few sites have them up for October re-release...Venom too.

Was that directed toward me? Are you referring to something I wrote on another thread? About the Watcher....he is "smaller" than I'd want, but the sculpt is very cool!

Thanks for the info about the KO's of Spidey. I'll need to check the web for how you tell it's a fake. I have cleared a Red Hulk I bought 3yrs ago. My Hulk from the Hulk/Valkyrie pack was purchased.....uhhh...in the 2-pack. Now I'll have to check on the webhead...thanks for the heads up.

[CoolToysOnly]

Scalpers suck

[cidman911]

Oh sorry it was IRONTUCK3000 who told me about The Watcher Select.

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by VashTS

... I know for FACT Hasbro increased the cost of packaging because they used black boxes and more recycled packaging to win awards.

If what you say is indeed a fact and not opinion or speculation, then you should be able to provide some level of proof regarding Hasbro's intentions. Proof such as links to an interview with Hasbro's brand managers or their design teams where they confirm what you have said here.

I'm cynical enough to believe what you say is a possibility. But without concrete proof, I have no choice but to consider everything you say as hearsay - not fact.

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

That's a good point. I've never really thought of that before, but it really wouldn't be hard to have a friend or loved one with their own account, or even an alt account, to artificially raise the "value" of their auction by putting in phony bids. Good observation.

That sort of proxy bidding is a less-than-noble tactic that has been used on Ebay and other auction sites for years (and at live auction even longer than that) as a way to artificially raise the auction price or stir up interest in an item.

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Originally Posted by bmorr

cane someone explain to me why a spiderman figure off all characters is going for that much? the dragon man thing i understand, but this is spiderman. whats the story on this one?

The MacFarlane sculpt is arguably the best 6" version of Spider-Man ever made, which somewhat explains the demand for it. As for why the prices are so ridiculous, that goes back to the point of this thread.

[Matximus]

want to beat a scalper?? Just wait. most "hot" toys are only worth three times their retail value for 4 to 6 weeks after they hit the market.

[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by Matximus

want to beat a scalper?? Just wait. most "hot" toys are only worth three times their retail value for 4 to 6 weeks after they hit the market.

Yes, but most Hot Toys have a limited run and sell for insane prices later on. lol.

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by CoolToysOnly

Scalpers suck

Thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Matximus

want to beat a scalper?? Just wait. most "hot" toys are only worth three times their retail value for 4 to 6 weeks after they hit the market.

Patience is definitely a virtue in this hobby. So is coming to terms with the idea that you just might never own a particular toy.

For example, I am perfectly comfortable with the knowledge that I will probably never own MU Vision or DOTM HA Soundwave.

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Yes, but most Hot Toys have a limited run and sell for insane prices later on. lol.

I see what you did there.

[VashTS]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

If what you say is indeed a fact and not opinion or speculation, then you should be able to provide some level of proof regarding Hasbro's intentions. Proof such as links to an interview with Hasbro's brand managers or their design teams where they confirm what you have said here.

I'm cynical enough to believe what you say is a possibility. But without concrete proof, I have no choice but to consider everything you say as hearsay - not fact.



That sort of proxy bidding is a less-than-noble tactic that has been used on Ebay and other auction sites for years (and at live auction even longer than that) as a way to artificially raise the auction price or stir up interest in an item.



The MacFarlane sculpt is arguably the best 6" version of Spider-Man ever made, which somewhat explains the demand for it. As for why the prices are so ridiculous, that goes back to the point of this thread.

What do you need voice recording,i got that anything else blood samples, diagrams, deep throat, i got him on speed dial. Note that's sarcasm with being a cynic.

Question, what happens in neighborhoods say for example, Marvel legends figures get stolen.
A target accepts the loss
B target increases prices to make up for stolen goods

What i stated was facts, i can prove conversations without recording and images, nope , till then is the ramblins of a loon to you. Your life does not change neither does mine.

What can be proven is recycling costs a lot, so does black packaging and neat graphics and corporations love awards which Hasbro had won and either they eat those costs or all the consumers to pay for those awards.

I think, i shoot and score on you...sorry in a hockey mood.

[trebleshot]

I thought I was quite clear in my previous post. However, at this point you have only proven to me that you have no intention of having a civil and intelligent discussion about your accusations.

Good day.

[kylactus]

I'm still wondering about these "packaging awards".... I'm picturing the lamest awards show ever, hosted by Drew Carey. also just curious why would black packaging cost more than individual card art? It seems to me that you would have to pay a lot more to commission a known artist, and print individual unique packages with multicolor images. and were is the recycling coming into it?
I looked on my packages, I don't see anywhere that any card ever (from the 1984 matel SW figures, to the newest MI) have ever had recycled packaging. I think these new packages are meant to appeal to young "hip" tec-ish minded consumers, and judging by the feel of the new packs I'd say they're cheaper to produce. P.S, you might want to get a blood sample from anyone offering a deep throat on the internet... just saying.

[Matximus]

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Yes, but most Hot Toys have a limited run and sell for insane prices later on. lol.

Right on.

I'm a hobbyist but I also (don't hate me, please) flip new toys sometimes, when it's convenient, or when I'm bored. I can tell you from experience: It's really, really hard to profit flipping most Marvel toys with any kind of consistency. They're really terrible to scalp if your supply comes from retail shelves, I've found. This is because most are expensive to begin with, and their price falls sharply in the secondary market.

I pretty much stay away from them.

[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by Matximus

Right on.

I'm a hobbyist but I also (don't hate me, please) flip new toys sometimes, when it's convenient, or when I'm bored. I can tell you from experience: It's really, really hard to profit flipping most Marvel toys with any kind of consistency. They're really terrible to scalp if your supply comes from retail shelves, I've found. This is because most are expensive to begin with, and their price falls sharply in the secondary market.

I pretty much stay away from them.

That's why the scalpers are only looking for the Black Widows and Boba Fetts of the toy aisle.

[aefranci]

Marvel Legends Hulk Build A Figure Series Fin Fang Foom Left Wing Piece BAF | eBay

Marvel Legends Hulk Build A Figure Series Fin Fang Foom Left Arm Piece BAF | eBay

and we have people like this...what do we call this individual?

[kylactus]

if he gets it... a financial genius. but as it stands, I'd call him high... not just price wise, but latterly smoked too much home grown, "HIGH".

[scarecrow]

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Originally Posted by aefranci

Marvel Legends Hulk Build A Figure Series Fin Fang Foom Left Wing Piece BAF | eBay

Marvel Legends Hulk Build A Figure Series Fin Fang Foom Left Arm Piece BAF | eBay

and we have people like this...what do we call this individual?

Like the guy above me has implied, there's little to no reason for anyone to spend that much money on these things. Are these the only auctions on ebay for these two pieces? Even so, someone would have to be flat-ignorant to be anything but amused by those two auctions.

There are always going to be people selling things for crazy amounts what the majority are selling for a fraction of that. If they were the only auctions I could see the reason for frustration, but otherwise I wouldn't sweat it. Those guys will never make money on those kinds of auctions.

EDIT:
Beings that there are a lot of "new" people posting in this thread, I think I'll tell my funny story with repackagers. Back in 2008(right?) when the Marvel Universe line started, I found a series 1 Iron Man at Toys-R-Us. However, the package actually had a Super Hero Showdown Iron Man in it. It was the first time I'd ever seen a repackage, so I told one of the employees about it. I didn't know if they could do anything about it, hell, I was pretty new to the collecting scene. The employee's response was that "sometimes figures have variants" and that this was probably what it was.

I have a pretty uncanny memory for variants and those sorts of things, so I told him that it wasn't, but an old figure, from a line that was around years before. That Iron Man, to this day is the only SHS figure I own, so I just figured I'd let the guy know. He, and a coworker who had shown up to listen, just laughed at me and went on their way. This was my first introduction to employees not giving a shit about that kind of stuff. And really, why should they? But back then I didn't know any better.

Oddly enough, most of the places in Oregon that I've been don't have repackaged toys. I was REALLY sad when I went to Ross and they had an Attack on Cobra Island set, missing, of course, Outback. I think that the Wet-Suit was missing too, a huge selling point for me. I think there was a G1 figure in there too, but open spaces in the packaging for the most part. I guess Oregonians(at least in the Salem to Eugene areas) are pretty lucky in that regard. So, I don't really know what a lot of you guys have to go through on a regular basis.

I will say though, these days it's hard for me to get worked up about not finding items I want. Aside from how trivial I think it is, I also am able to realize that, especially in Hasbro's case, things will be scarce for a good 3-4 months, and then stores will be flooded with the figures I couldn't find.

[VashTS]

I wish those Chinese sellers would do a ko Fin Fang Foom or Ares or some Sentinels. It's impossible because the figures are so big...but I can dream......

[aefranci]

we can all dream...

yeah, i don't understand why they would sell it for that much..just it's so outlandish...i mean sure if he got the pieces for those prices by all means sell it and break even..but i really doubt he bought each piece for $140..i mean really...

i'd understand if both parts would sell for $60 since they're both super rare pieces, but even then it's pushing it..FOR BAF PIECES!

[aefranci]

wow I think I just met the king of the bunch.

Spider Man Action Figure Superposeable with Wall Crawling Action MC Farlane 2004 | eBay

when asked about the insane shipping cost, he replies with "THIS IS THE SHIPPING, BECAUSE THIS ACTION FIGURE IS HIGHLY OF COLLECTION , IF YOU ARE INTERESTED YOU CAN BET ON THE AUCTION ANYTIME MY FRIEND, BUT YOU HAVE TO READ BEFORE ANYTHING EVERY DETAIL HAVE A GOOD DAY....."

if you read the description on the item:
------------ ITEM DESCRIPTION ---------- -THE COLLECTION ITEM DESCRIPTION...PLEASE YOU SHOULD CAREFULLY READ EVERY DETAIL...... -I AM SELLING THE MOST VALUED SPIDER-MAN'S ACTION FIGURE OF THE LAST YEARS...... -I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M SELLING... YOU KNOW IF YOU BUY VERY GOOD STUFF HERE WITH ME OR YOU BUY REALLY BAD STUFF WITH SOMEONE ELSE...... -I AM SELLING A COLLECTIBLE ACTION FIGURES, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AUTHENTIC (OR/AND) ORIGINAL COLLECTORS AND LIKE TO SPEND MONEY ON REAL ITEMS HIGHLY IN COLLECTION...... -THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, IF YOU ARE NOT AN ORIGINAL COLLECTOR BECAUSE YOU ARE A PERSON WHO DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONEY TO SPEND AND MUCH LESS TO BUY OR PAY FOR AN EXCELLENT ACTION FIGURE, IF YOU'RE A CHEAP BUYER BETTER LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE, DON'T BET ON MY AUCTION AND GET OUT OF HERE, FORTUNATELY THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR ORIGINAL COLLECTORS AND IT IS NOT FOR RESELLERS, CHEAP BUYERS NOT EVEN FOR HAGGLERS......IF YOU ARE A CHEAP BUYER, RESELLER, HAGGLER, CUT-PRICE SHOPKEEPER OR HOARDER BETTER GET OUT OF HERE AND YOU DO NOT APPLY...... -I'M REALLY SO SO SORRY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY LITTLE HEART, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU ARE NOT AT THE HEIGHT OF AN AUTHENTIC COLLECTOR, BECAUSE YOU CRY BY SPENDING A FEW HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR A SET PRICE, AND THE EXCUSE THAT YOU ALWAYS SAY IS "THIS SELLER IS STEALING ME OR I NEVER DID NOT SEE THE SHIPPING PRICE" BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MINE, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO MAKES THE MISTAKE, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT READ MY DESCRIPTION AND EVERY ONE OF THE DETAILS...... -FOR THIS REASON I DON'T WANT WHINERS I WANT REAL BUYERS-COLLECTORS AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME AWKWARD, SILLY, POINTLESS NOT EVEN BORING QUESTIONS ABOUT MY PRICES, BETTER SEND ME SMART QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ITEMS...... -ONLY PAYPAL PAYMENTS...... -NEW PACKAGE AND PRETTY COOL CONDITION, I AM SELLING VERY GOOD QUALITY...... -WORLDWIDE SHIPPING (INTERNATIONAL)...... -PLEASE BEFORE ANYTHING CHECK OUT EVERY DETAIL...... -I DO NOT ACCEPT EXCUSES, CLAIMS OR COMPLAINTS AFTER, NOT EVEN APOLOGIES...... -EVERY DETAIL OR PRICE IS CLEARLY FIXED AND SET...... -THE CHOICE IS ALL YOURS, IT IS UP TO YOU AND YOU CHOOSE IF YOU BUY THE ITEM OR NOT, I ONLY OFFER MY PRODUCT AND NOTHING ELSE...... -HAVE A NICE DAY... THANK YOU SO MUCH.....

sorry for the block of text fellow arkers, but this guy just really rubbed me the wrong way, with that sort of reply.

[aefranci]

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Originally Posted by cidman911

There's a bunch of dark McFarlane Spidey's from the usual China sellers on eBay right now.

Most have been ending at $40-50 but once those people willing to pay that much for it wash away they should be selling regularly for $30 shipped like Red Deadpools.

And thanks for The Watcher Marvel Select heads up. I'll wait until the month before they come out to pre-order. A few sites have them up for October re-release...Venom too.

Thanks cidman911! I had a feeling those were KOs but I wasn't sure, I asked the seller to send me pics of the inner thigh or the bottom of the shoe if it has any branding that says Toybiz or Hasbro, and they said what you see is what you get haha, but for $30 for a KO i might bite.

[kylactus]

Quote:

Originally Posted by aefranci

wow I think I just met the king of the bunch.

Spider Man Action Figure Superposeable with Wall Crawling Action MC Farlane 2004 | eBay

when asked about the insane shipping cost, he replies with "THIS IS THE SHIPPING, BECAUSE THIS ACTION FIGURE IS HIGHLY OF COLLECTION , IF YOU ARE INTERESTED YOU CAN BET ON THE AUCTION ANYTIME MY FRIEND, BUT YOU HAVE TO READ BEFORE ANYTHING EVERY DETAIL HAVE A GOOD DAY....."

if you read the description on the item:
------------ ITEM DESCRIPTION ---------- -THE COLLECTION ITEM DESCRIPTION...PLEASE YOU SHOULD CAREFULLY READ EVERY DETAIL...... -I AM SELLING THE MOST VALUED SPIDER-MAN'S ACTION FIGURE OF THE LAST YEARS...... -I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M SELLING... YOU KNOW IF YOU BUY VERY GOOD STUFF HERE WITH ME OR YOU BUY REALLY BAD STUFF WITH SOMEONE ELSE...... -I AM SELLING A COLLECTIBLE ACTION FIGURES, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AUTHENTIC (OR/AND) ORIGINAL COLLECTORS AND LIKE TO SPEND MONEY ON REAL ITEMS HIGHLY IN COLLECTION...... -THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, IF YOU ARE NOT AN ORIGINAL COLLECTOR BECAUSE YOU ARE A PERSON WHO DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONEY TO SPEND AND MUCH LESS TO BUY OR PAY FOR AN EXCELLENT ACTION FIGURE, IF YOU'RE A CHEAP BUYER BETTER LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE, DON'T BET ON MY AUCTION AND GET OUT OF HERE, FORTUNATELY THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR ORIGINAL COLLECTORS AND IT IS NOT FOR RESELLERS, CHEAP BUYERS NOT EVEN FOR HAGGLERS......IF YOU ARE A CHEAP BUYER, RESELLER, HAGGLER, CUT-PRICE SHOPKEEPER OR HOARDER BETTER GET OUT OF HERE AND YOU DO NOT APPLY...... -I'M REALLY SO SO SORRY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY LITTLE HEART, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU ARE NOT AT THE HEIGHT OF AN AUTHENTIC COLLECTOR, BECAUSE YOU CRY BY SPENDING A FEW HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR A SET PRICE, AND THE EXCUSE THAT YOU ALWAYS SAY IS "THIS SELLER IS STEALING ME OR I NEVER DID NOT SEE THE SHIPPING PRICE" BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MINE, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO MAKES THE MISTAKE, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT READ MY DESCRIPTION AND EVERY ONE OF THE DETAILS...... -FOR THIS REASON I DON'T WANT WHINERS I WANT REAL BUYERS-COLLECTORS AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME AWKWARD, SILLY, POINTLESS NOT EVEN BORING QUESTIONS ABOUT MY PRICES, BETTER SEND ME SMART QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ITEMS...... -ONLY PAYPAL PAYMENTS...... -NEW PACKAGE AND PRETTY COOL CONDITION, I AM SELLING VERY GOOD QUALITY...... -WORLDWIDE SHIPPING (INTERNATIONAL)...... -PLEASE BEFORE ANYTHING CHECK OUT EVERY DETAIL...... -I DO NOT ACCEPT EXCUSES, CLAIMS OR COMPLAINTS AFTER, NOT EVEN APOLOGIES...... -EVERY DETAIL OR PRICE IS CLEARLY FIXED AND SET...... -THE CHOICE IS ALL YOURS, IT IS UP TO YOU AND YOU CHOOSE IF YOU BUY THE ITEM OR NOT, I ONLY OFFER MY PRODUCT AND NOTHING ELSE...... -HAVE A NICE DAY... THANK YOU SO MUCH.....

sorry for the block of text fellow arkers, but this guy just really rubbed me the wrong way, with that sort of reply.

you'll also notice that that scamming asshole has a 75% pos feedback! what a dick, Ebay should shut him down. I'll bet he either works in a lawyers office or he's a used car salesmen! P.S, He writes like he's the love child of Yoda and the guy that sold Mogui's in the beginning of Gremlins.

and if you look at his positive feedbacks there all him!!!!!

[cidman911]

It continues.

[aefranci]

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Originally Posted by kylactus

you'll also notice that that scamming asshole has a 75% pos feedback! what a dick, Ebay should shut him down. I'll bet he either works in a lawyers office or he's a used car salesmen! P.S, He writes like he's the love child of Yoda and the guy that sold Mogui's in the beginning of Gremlins.

and if you look at his positive feedbacks there all him!!!!!

yup! i noticed it's all from the same "buyer" i dont understand why he tries to sell stuff, when he just pretends to buy them himself...

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Originally Posted by cidman911

It continues.

that's just a poor job..if you're gonna do that...at least try to make it convincing sheesh...

[grimlock78]

Places lke toys r us are aware of people buying a ton of figures to sell on Ebay for double. But they really cant stop someone else for going to buy for them. And places like walmart and target dont care. I got into a yelling mach with a guy at toys r us because who wouldnt let a little kid look at the star wars figures (he just wanted a red clone)

[VashTS]

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Originally Posted by grimlock78

Places lke toys r us are aware of people buying a ton of figures to sell on Ebay for double. But they really cant stop someone else for going to buy for them. And places like walmart and target dont care. I got into a yelling mach with a guy at toys r us because who wouldnt let a little kid look at the star wars figures (he just wanted a red clone)

Screw that little kid I say....first come, first serve.

"If You're not first, you're last,", that is what Ricky Bobby says.

[RKillian]

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Originally Posted by behindthemask

but I was curious for toys and merchandise if you've tried/considered going through bigbadtoystore.com? they have a section for resellers/store owners, and I'd imagine the pricing to be cheaper, or perhaps Amazon as they offer free shipping

Yeah, you're about a year and a half too late for that. Plus, the discount wouldn't keep a physical storefront afloat. The main advantage was being able to buy single cases, versus some astronomical minimum yearly commitment to Hasbro or Mattel.