[Nexodusrex]

So I was lookin at some Star Wars figures on the main page, the ones that are packaged with large vehicles and such, and I was thinking, why dosent hasbro do this with Marvel Universe? and I dont mean vehicles, I mean a ghost rider with his bike is inevitable, but I'm talkin a Marvel Universe figure VS or with a bigger enemy. would be an extention of those 12 inch tall Walmart exclusive figures

and to see where I am going with this, go here
New 2010 Star Wars Vehicles In Package
and here
https://shop.strato.de/WebRoot/Store...tle_Rancor.jpg

Battle Damaged Wolverine VS Brood Queen
Spider-man VS Big Wheel
Charles Xavier VS Big Astral Plane Shadow King
Magik VS N'astorith
Dr Strange VS Shuma Gorath
AIM Soldier and Modok
Franklin Richards VS Onslaught
Longshot VS Mojo
Pyro and the Blob
Thor VS Frost Giant
Mandarn with Ultimo
Hulk VS The Red King
Punisher VS Stiltman
Ronan the Accuser and the Kree Supreme Inteligence

and while we are on the subject, how about hasbro totally ripping off Mattels awesome Comiccon Staro 5pack but with Marvel Universe

How about the Fantastic Four VS A Giant Mole Monster?
How about the All New All Different X-Men VS Krakoa?

[DrewBlank]

We need more Mole Monsters in the world, I agree.

I don't see it happening, but I'd like to see some 3D animated screen savers designed to fit the Marvel Legends line. Maybe a Supreme Intelligence (with bubbles), an Earth X Watcher or Vision (with or without his helmet).

[Snowflakian]

Most of these could fit in the gigantic battles packs.

Some moreso there then 'titanic' figures. Most of these that are bigger have been covered in ML to scale for MU, and various lines prior.
Modok for example, well at BAF size he's Modog. So titanic size may be too big. Modog is the genocide version of modok. Mojo also in BAF is wayyyyyy too large. He needs to be closer to the X-men TAS size, to slightly bigger.

The idea isn't bad, but hasbro is already dabbling in it with gigantic battles, and the new galactus pack. They just need time to work through the large library. Some of your suggestions really vary in size though, and some could work better in like Deluxe 2 packs, or legends and MU packs for like 20 bucks as opposed to the GBP 30. Onslaught and franklin for example, unless they did 2nd form onslaught, would be fine at legends size, 2nd form onslaught would need to be closer to 8-10 inches though, maybe BAF size, but since franklin is so small, they'd even each other out moreso.

Maybe break them down by size classes within the packs themselves would help some by cost, and variety.

deluxe figure pack - two pack similiar to XMO two packs
advanced pack - ML to Slightly bigger than ML
Gigantic Pack - Current walmart ones
Titanic Pack - Something on the order of the new galactus but with high repaint usage and recognition.

This way it covers the height differences better with cost. Keeps em all borderline accurate better this way too.

Multipacks are still new with MU, but they are coming eventually. We have an alleged 6 pack for the end of the year, and the 3 packs TRU has now. So eventually more multi's and variety packs may show up. Mole creatures with the Fan 4, or even just kree sentrys or whatnot later. Especially if they do a famous covers line at some point. (the infamous fan 4 cover with mole creature.)

But most of what you suggested you can find now in perfect scale from other lines.
Modog and Modok can be found in ML and Ironman.
Wendigo ML and Hulk
Brood BAF, ML, and X-Men
etc.

So I'd prefer they focus on the ones not done, like dormamu, ultimo, and that ilk. Anyone that hasn't really had a figure done, or at least doesn't have one in scale to MU already. Onslaught's already at perfection twice over, as are some others. But the big figures will still be rolling out too.

We still have the mass market galactus coming soon, and a wolverine with sentinel coming soon too. Who knows what's coming after that. But at the prices for the packs, they better be substantial figures.

Pyro and blob for example has to be the same cost as the deluxe sabretooth and blob pack. Otherwise that's just highway robbery.

[Tarquinius]

This is somewhat related with Snow's idea.

We have Thanos coming out who definitely isn't as big as the Gigantic battles but is bigger then the bigger MU figures (Hulk etc). So I HOPE that with Thanos, we get a 3rd scale which I guess Snow would consider "Advanced"

[Snowflakian]

It's not an inflexible plan, so yeah however they could fit in for best cost effiency, or even scale or whatnot. Preferably not overdone this way though. I don't want to always have to get multiple figures for just one fave. So they have to be 'must fits' or of similiar nature while still having selling power.
Like what hasbro is currently doing with GBPs.
Giant man is a must have, wolverine(that's like a bonus!) and Sentinel, though the skrull was iffy, the cap helped push it, Galactus and Silver surfer (Always a marvel must). These are alleged high market and demand characters or rare with push support. So that seems to be the trend.

For example, a fantastic 4 pack with mole creature is extremely likely down the road, for being so famous. Or at least a 'playset' someday, someday with figures, because fantastic 4 is so marketable. But that is more likely when or if they get a new movie as well, so why push right now?

Then there's stuff like Hulk, wendigo and wolverine, that could be a good gimmick, and give a rarer figure out there. Timing again though comes to mind with the upcoming X-Stuff, or even avengers stuff. This would seem more like a store exclusive than anything.

Some of the issue is timing, who do you cover for exposure, best market for characters, and avoiding oversaturation too fast.

I guess this would be why they go so slow in character releases, and seem so methodical in choices. So we could see some cool stuff if we keep making sure that the line is strong with support. It's limitless with ideas, but we really have to show that the market is there for them.

It's kind of the same with the comic packs. Pushing the right character combinations with obscurity for maximum sales.
Cyclops and phoenix, perfect pairing, ditto to dark avengers, and mainstays to push the wrecking crew, even nightcrawler to push the more obscure storm. With support, I see no reason that this line won't grow to the size of the starwars brand in figure aisles with variety, and accessories or mulitpacks.

[Prem1x]

Love this idea. MU needs to ramp up the coolness factor to compete with Joe and SW. Galactus will help.

[Tarquinius]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

It's not an inflexible plan, so yeah however they could fit in for best cost effiency, or even scale or whatnot. Preferably not overdone this way though. I don't want to always have to get multiple figures for just one fave. So they have to be 'must fits' or of similiar nature while still having selling power.
Like what hasbro is currently doing with GBPs.
Giant man is a must have, wolverine(that's like a bonus!) and Sentinel, though the skrull was iffy, the cap helped push it, Galactus and Silver surfer (Always a marvel must). These are alleged high market and demand characters or rare with push support. So that seems to be the trend.

For example, a fantastic 4 pack with mole creature is extremely likely down the road, for being so famous. Or at least a 'playset' someday, someday with figures, because fantastic 4 is so marketable. But that is more likely when or if they get a new movie as well, so why push right now?

Then there's stuff like Hulk, wendigo and wolverine, that could be a good gimmick, and give a rarer figure out there. Timing again though comes to mind with the upcoming X-Stuff, or even avengers stuff. This would seem more like a store exclusive than anything.

Some of the issue is timing, who do you cover for exposure, best market for characters, and avoiding oversaturation too fast.

I guess this would be why they go so slow in character releases, and seem so methodical in choices. So we could see some cool stuff if we keep making sure that the line is strong with support. It's limitless with ideas, but we really have to show that the market is there for them.

It's kind of the same with the comic packs. Pushing the right character combinations with obscurity for maximum sales.
Cyclops and phoenix, perfect pairing, ditto to dark avengers, and mainstays to push the wrecking crew, even nightcrawler to push the more obscure storm. With support, I see no reason that this line won't grow to the size of the starwars brand in figure aisles with variety, and accessories or mulitpacks.

I know this is a bit of a tangent here and getting too far from the point of this thread. But I agree that we need to support this line and trust that with the methodical choices we will get everyhing we want.

My only concern is is that the new wave of these toys are NO WHERE. At the end of HAMMER wave 1 they offered a re-release of some older SHIELD figures in assortment packs which a lot of stores bought. Now a lot of stores have an over abundance of SHIELD series and the HAMMER stuff is in the back or hasnn't been ordered.

Hasbro took down the majority of the SHIELD figures off HTS.com for this reason I'm sure, so that stores can't innudate the market with old product. But....I just really hope that in the summer new figures will emerge. I guess I'm just nervous that.........only when new product is available can we support the MU line and...without new product available, there is no support

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Tarquinius

I know this is a bit of a tangent here and getting too far from the point of this thread. But I agree that we need to support this line and trust that with the methodical choices we will get everyhing we want.

My only concern is is that the new wave of these toys are NO WHERE. At the end of HAMMER wave 1 they offered a re-release of some older SHIELD figures in assortment packs which a lot of stores bought. Now a lot of stores have an over abundance of SHIELD series and the HAMMER stuff is in the back or hasnn't been ordered.

Hasbro took down the majority of the SHIELD figures off HTS.com for this reason I'm sure, so that stores can't innudate the market with old product. But....I just really hope that in the summer new figures will emerge. I guess I'm just nervous that.........only when new product is available can we support the MU line and...without new product available, there is no support

Distribution is indeed a problem, but that goes to how each store handles it too.

We have several issues here.

On the store end, we've got issues like the warehouse amount, shelf space, moving merchandise for new products, and inventory.

Warehouse amount, how many cases of each wave, and whether some stores keep getting sent older cases that didn't move yet. Bottom of the pile syndrome, when you stack new boxes on top of old, when the new run out for other stores, those stores keep getting shipments of the earliest wave that everyone has long since bought.

Shelf Space, if it has a high volume of shelf space, how often do you reorder cases from the inventory to add to it, bare shelves vs how many are sold. People hiding figures, theft, and so on end up throwing the inventory off till someone notices to fix it so the orders become wonky. High shelf space if they keep it full though can be beneficial to getting new figures out faster.

Moving merchandise, the more they sell the more they order to stock the faster the waves come.

And inventory, as stated before, if the inventory gets off compared to the appearance, all sorts of mis-haps can happen with ordering too little to too much of older cases, or even newer that became older, but it's still a dangerous scenario as it hiccups the later releases. Finding an even flow of figures to keep up with demand for all the various ones, and whether or not the store recognizes the market or not.

Hasbro's tried to remedy some of this with the case variants throwing in some popular olders to keep new buyers happy, and keep figures making sense together. Like the warpath wave had X-force wolverine in it too albeit in old packaging. The do this with wave choices too for new figures, like bucky and classic cap, or ironman and black widow. GBP's looked to be a test market at first with store exclusives (sort of like a low run, but at walmart so not so low and just about everywhere), and if it proved fruitful will go bigger, so hopefully galactus will prove profitable to show we'll buy marvel figures of various scales to fit our needs. They also do this trend of making complimentary characters in the pack, while still covering a larger variety. (Past and present in the same first wave).

*Edit*

Rethinking this, I'm starting to wonder if this may be the secret to the galactus sub line. Whatever his line is, could be character centric to anysize, one wave at a time. But maybe only high profile ones could do this at a 1 per case assortment. Must have syndrome more or less by general audiences, and fans. Galactus fits this. But who else can on that scale?
Smaller at least, at a lower price it's more reasonable. Like the gi joe alpha and bravo packs. I wonder if they might be prepping for that eventually with the release of the upcoming ghostrider. Ultimo could maybe do the same as Galactus, especially if he's featured in IM3.

[Tarquinius]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Distribution is indeed a problem, but that goes to how each store handles it too.

We have several issues here.

On the store end, we've got issues like the warehouse amount, shelf space, moving merchandise for new products, and inventory.

Warehouse amount, how many cases of each wave, and whether some stores keep getting sent older cases that didn't move yet. Bottom of the pile syndrome, when you stack new boxes on top of old, when the new run out for other stores, those stores keep getting shipments of the earliest wave that everyone has long since bought.

Shelf Space, if it has a high volume of shelf space, how often do you reorder cases from the inventory to add to it, bare shelves vs how many are sold. People hiding figures, theft, and so on end up throwing the inventory off till someone notices to fix it so the orders become wonky. High shelf space if they keep it full though can be beneficial to getting new figures out faster.

Moving merchandise, the more they sell the more they order to stock the faster the waves come.

And inventory, as stated before, if the inventory gets off compared to the appearance, all sorts of mis-haps can happen with ordering too little to too much of older cases, or even newer that became older, but it's still a dangerous scenario as it hiccups the later releases. Finding an even flow of figures to keep up with demand for all the various ones, and whether or not the store recognizes the market or not.

Hasbro's tried to remedy some of this with the case variants throwing in some popular olders to keep new buyers happy, and keep figures making sense together. Like the warpath wave had X-force wolverine in it too albeit in old packaging. The do this with wave choices too for new figures, like bucky and classic cap, or ironman and black widow. GBP's looked to be a test market at first with store exclusives (sort of like a low run, but at walmart so not so low and just about everywhere), and if it proved fruitful will go bigger, so hopefully galactus will prove profitable to show we'll buy marvel figures of various scales to fit our needs. They also do this trend of making complimentary characters in the pack, while still covering a larger variety. (Past and present in the same first wave).

*Edit*

Rethinking this, I'm starting to wonder if this may be the secret to the galactus sub line. Whatever his line is, could be character centric to anysize, one wave at a time. But maybe only high profile ones could do this at a 1 per case assortment. Must have syndrome more or less by general audiences, and fans. Galactus fits this. But who else can on that scale?
Smaller at least, at a lower price it's more reasonable. Like the gi joe alpha and bravo packs. I wonder if they might be prepping for that eventually with the release of the upcoming ghostrider. Ultimo could maybe do the same as Galactus, especially if he's featured in IM3.

I think you might be onto something with the Galactus idea. Remember that we have an upcoming and unknown 6 pack of something coming up. Ideas have been flung around such as "The Illuminati" "Cabal" "Xmen" etc. It could be possible that the 6 pack might be something like "HEralds of Galactus" which would fit in nicely. And this could still relate back to the "Titantic Battle Idea"

For another tangent, I'm thinking...that Ghost Rider's bike COULD be a BAF with different parts of the bike scattered among the other figures. Just a crack pot theory of mine but it seems to add up in my mind.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Tarquinius

I think you might be onto something with the Galactus idea. Remember that we have an upcoming and unknown 6 pack of something coming up. Ideas have been flung around such as "The Illuminati" "Cabal" "Xmen" etc. It could be possible that the 6 pack might be something like "HEralds of Galactus" which would fit in nicely. And this could still relate back to the "Titantic Battle Idea"

For another tangent, I'm thinking...that Ghost Rider's bike COULD be a BAF with different parts of the bike scattered among the other figures. Just a crack pot theory of mine but it seems to add up in my mind.

Did we get a cost on the 6 pack? Cause if it's the same as galactus it'd be an interesting way to balance out the case amounts if the box is near that size too. And what is the cost of galactus in comparison?

I like the baf bike idea though. Would work awesome for a few non accessory needed characters, or heck even just ghost rider related characters over time.

[Tarquinius]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Did we get a cost on the 6 pack? Cause if it's the same as galactus it'd be an interesting way to balance out the case amounts if the box is near that size too. And what is the cost of galactus in comparison?

I like the baf bike idea though. Would work awesome for a few non accessory needed characters, or heck even just ghost rider related characters over time.

I'm not sure about the 6 pack cost but I think in Feb. we learned Galactus will cost $50. I have a feeling the 6 pack will be in the same neighborhood.