[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by Peteparker

Holy crap, is that a thing? I'd never heard of that before.

Of course, Men in Black figures both prove and disprove that theory in the same vein, since they both come out with Wave 1 figures in suits, and are soon thereafter clearanced out... lol.

It only applies to toy lines where the majority of the main characters are not in suits.

For example, the A-Team movie toys. Face Man gets released wearing a suit. Line dies after only one wave (which included Face).

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Originally Posted by StarWarsPaul

I can get into enough trouble on my own without others mis-quoting me, thank you very much.

While I'm quite positive of that fact...

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"I don't know the status of the Unmasked Doom" is a far cry from "not seeing the light of day."

....I was making an inference based on your comments in the other thread as well as the one you quoted here. Granted, it may have been hyperbolic to use the phrase "light of day", but it certainly is not that far off from what you actually posted. And to add to the semantics fire, I did not misquote you. I paraphrased you.

I did forgot about Unmasked Doom being sold at NYCC, but calling that Doom "released" because of it is open for debate. Personally, I won't call it released until it is available to the public with the purchase a new digital subscription (as Fury and Angel were before him) or sold at regular retail.

My guess is Hasbro/Marvel are holding off on using Doom for the new sub figure because AA is still generating steady sales. They will probably want to wait until sales slow down before changing it so they can boost them back up again. And just to emphasize the point, this theory is in no way backed by any sources, confidential or otherwise. I'm just cynical and jaded.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Trainwreck

I feel like this is the same doom and gloom as every year since I've started collecting. Look, toys are very scarce in the summer.

Transformers is feeling extremely bleak: everyone has everything they've released for months now. They have a couple of future waves announced, not unlike MU. ML is the same way. GI Joe is all together hosed because of the delay of the movie.

I could go on and on, but every Summer I tend to collect Japanese figures and Hot Toys imports or statues/comics to tie me over until the fall.

Let me put it this way. I'll be at SDCC in two weeks. The guys at the Hasbro booth have always been extremely conversational and forthcoming. Often times actual toy designers are working in the booth. I'll ask, but I think the answers will already be there when I arrive.

I predict many new marvel figures will be on display, just like last year. Marvel is huge right now. With the Avengers film they just hit their stride. IM3 and Thor 2 will be big hits again. The MU line may evolve, or change, but I find it so unlikely that 3.75" non-movie Marvel is dead altogether, even based on the aforementioned "evidence."

What are hasbro playing at,they release the T joint movie spideys,yet the upcoming 6" spideys have great articulation.

[gunzilla]

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Originally Posted by Jackieboy

What are hasbro playing at,they release the T joint movie spideys,yet the upcoming 6" spideys have great articulation.

I don't get this for years 3 3/4 has been Hasbro's bread and butter when it comes to action figures now they shortchange the articulation for that scale then give it to the 6" scale is a huge F*** you to fans of the smaller scale

[synapse17]

Has anyone considered that like the Avengers EMH being replaced with a more movie branded version. Maybe they just have some marketing campaign that alines Marvel figures as Avengers. And that association will increase sales. In theory... I mean how can you not have a dedicated toy line when you have properties all over the place. Movies, comics, and cartoons. There has to be something to fill that void. So will just have to wait and see.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by gunzilla

I don't get this for years 3 3/4 has been Hasbro's bread and butter when it comes to action figures now they shortchange the articulation for that scale then give it to the 6" scale is huge F*** you to fans of the smaller scale

yeah it seems like that dont it?Hopefully they retain the quality we love for those upcoming Movie lines.just looking at the recent batman and spiderman figures got me thinking about it though.

[StarWarsPaul]

The Free AA Figure with digital sub expired 1/31/2012. The Unmasked Doom is branded "Marvel Digital Comics."

I would think its only a matter of time before they start to offer it...

[Pros From Dover]

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Originally Posted by gunzilla

I don't get this for years 3 3/4 has been Hasbro's bread and butter when it comes to action figures now they shortchange the articulation for that scale then give it to the 6" scale is a huge F*** you to fans of the smaller scale

....which is why I hate Mattel. ie: Green Lantern and Dark Knight Rises.

[Tiberius]

Mattel sees things differently.

3 3/4" = Children
6" = Collectors

As nice as it would be to have a DC Universe 3 3/4" line, it won't happen. Heck maybe now with MU kicking the bucket [so I hear] it leaves a door wide open to take the comic book hero world of 3 3/4" figures.

Aslong as they aren't canceling Gi Joe, I am happy.

[Trainwreck]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

My guess is Hasbro/Marvel are holding off on using Doom for the new sub figure because AA is still generating steady sales. They will probably want to wait until sales slow down before changing it so they can boost them back up again. And just to emphasize the point, this theory is in no way backed by any sources, confidential or otherwise. I'm just cynical and jaded.

That's a misnomer. While the /archangel splash page is still live, they are no longer offering the figure. The deal expired recently (my friend got a subscription and no toy to confirm).


Also, those of you sad about Spider-Men in 3.75" not having great articulation, I submit to you the Ultra-Posable figure that comes in the movie line. He doesn't even have a gimmick weapon!

[D00MTR0N]

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Originally Posted by Trainwreck

I feel like this is the same doom and gloom as every year since I've started collecting. Look, toys are very scarce in the summer.

Transformers is feeling extremely bleak: everyone has everything they've released for months now. They have a couple of future waves announced, not unlike MU. ML is the same way. GI Joe is all together hosed because of the delay of the movie.

I could go on and on, but every Summer I tend to collect Japanese figures and Hot Toys imports or statues/comics to tie me over until the fall.

Let me put it this way. I'll be at SDCC in two weeks. The guys at the Hasbro booth have always been extremely conversational and forthcoming. Often times actual toy designers are working in the booth. I'll ask, but I think the answers will already be there when I arrive.

I predict many new marvel figures will be on display, just like last year. Marvel is huge right now. With the Avengers film they just hit their stride. IM3 and Thor 2 will be big hits again. The MU line may evolve, or change, but I find it so unlikely that 3.75" non-movie Marvel is dead altogether, even based on the aforementioned "evidence."

no man,this year so far has been the worst distribution ever across the board,every toy forum im on there are threads dedicated to the subject,and summer is usually a decent time of year for figures,its jan through march ie spring that has the lowest volume of product.

[Pros From Dover]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Mattel sees things differently.

3 3/4" = Children
6" = Collectors

Yeah, I remember them saying that. Just fuel on the fire for me.

[Prem1x]

Customer Service response from Hasbro:

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Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate your taking the time to share your feedback with us regarding the Marvel Universe Line.

We are pleased to advise that the Marvel Universe Line has not been dropped. Please be assured we have forwarded your comments to our management team so that they are also aware of your views.

We want to assure you that we are dedicated to maintaining quality products and service. We hope you and your family will continue to enjoy our products for many years to come.

Again, thank you for contacting us, and for your comments.

It's pretty up beat. No deth of teh line yet.

[Jackieboy]

[QUOTE=Tiberius;312939]Mattel sees things differently.

3 3/4" = Children
6" = Collectors

LOL,as if the barbie crew would know what their talking about,When toybiz were rocking our worlds with their iconic work,what had mattel got going on???the Metrosexual ken doll???hell id even forgot they had existed back in those days.

[Tiberius]

Remember, Gi Joe would be their for barbie when Ken was in a drunken rage.

[MeLikeJinx]

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Originally Posted by Prem1x

Customer Service response from Hasbro:



It's pretty up beat. No deth of teh line yet.

LOL. You can't trust Hasbro Customer Service IMO, I bet they are like the last people on Earth to know anything. Like with the whole SDCC 25th Slaughter debacle when Customer Service basically told us not to worry that they very likely would release a retail version of Sgt. Slaughter... 6+ months later buried somewhere in a Q&A session they offhandedly mention that that idea had been since scrapped.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Remember, Gi Joe would be their for barbie when Ken was in a drunken rage.

Oh thats right,one of the Joes Knocked her up a few years back,seeing as ken is a eunuch n'all.

[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by StarWarsPaul

The Free AA Figure with digital sub expired 1/31/2012. The Unmasked Doom is branded "Marvel Digital Comics."

I would think its only a matter of time before they start to offer it...

Hopefully this does come to pass, especially in light of that expiration date for AA. But it does make my idea about increasing their sub sales sound more sinister. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Trainwreck

That's a misnomer.

No, it's not, but I understand what you meant. And SWP beat you to it by about 3 posts.

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Also, those of you sad about Spider-Men in 3.75" not having great articulation, I submit to you the Ultra-Poseable figure that comes in the movie line. He doesn't even have a gimmick weapon!

One figure does not salvage an entire line of meh (IMHO). And the reason he doesn't have a gimmick weapon is that most of the budget for the figure went to all the joints/parts to make him "Ultra-Poseable". Notice that he's the only figure in the ASM line without one?

But that also give us a little insight on how much Hasbro is paying Marvel for licensing rights. Compare ASM figures with Retaliation figures, which are approximately the same price at retail. Both have gimmick weapons, but Joe are far more articulated than ASM figs (excluding UPSM).

[Trainwreck]

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Originally Posted by trebleshot

One figure does not salvage an entire line of meh (IMHO).

When did I ever say that? I just suggested people buy this figure because as far as 3.75" Spider-Men go, it's among my favorite.

[KingLouie731]

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Originally Posted by Trainwreck

When did I ever say that? I just suggested people buy this figure because as far as 3.75" Spider-Men go, it's among my favorite.

I think considering the conversation at large, possible cancelation, he thought you were offering a saving move for the line

[Nexodusrex]

Cancelled.

People keep throwing this word around like it is actually happened, yet Curto, and our other gentleman have never once used the word.

The line that I've heard has been "The End of the Line as you know it". This line does NOT speak of cancellation. It its a very broad open statement that can mean anything.

Example : Today you went to the mall, and you visited the petstore. There in its cage is an adorable welsh corgi puppy that needs a home. your heart melts and you buy it. This is the end of the world as you know, because suddenly it has changed with this new element in your life.

We do know, however, that it is a negative portrayal of this term. Somthing that is supposed to upset us as a fanbase, but it dosent necisarily mean cancellation. Kitbash is the term I keep seeing thrown around alot, but let me ask you, is Kitbash a Bad thing?

No! Its not! because that 12 inch tall frostgiant that came with Loki? Thats a Kitbash. Thanos? Kitbash! every single female mold except for x-23 has been a Kitbash. its what Hasbro does to save money. Perhaps the news is that they will not be exploring new molds outside of the usual heads and webgear, limiting what we will get. But does that really limit it? Look at the molds we have! Black Spiderman Mold, New Hulk Mold, Old Hulk Mold, Juggernaut Mold, Shehulk Mold, Guardian Mold, Cyclops Mold, ect ect ect. these molds can be used over and over and over again to facilitate many characters and I honestly dont mind no more new molds.

maybe the change is a general shift away from the more obscure characters, like Union Jack or Constrictor, for more A-B listers? This isnt bad, cause theres plenty of A-B listers who havent been made yet, just look at the x-men and avengers rosters or spidermans rogues.

Or Maybe, its a shift to target more children, meaning limiting the articulation a little. No more rocker ankles or neck sivel and adding Bazookas and spring loaded gimmics. Thats not a bad Idea though. So long as the detail is still there, so long as they dont have Amazing Spidercrotch, Then go for it! I dont mind a limiting of some articulation. If they all have the same articulation as the basic Black Spiderman body mold then I'm happy.

Or maybe they are just going to limit the number of waves each year from the normal 5 to 3. if it keeps it alive, fine. Theres always comic packs or boxed sets. And it gives them more reason to make the waves bigger.

Or it could simply be that the insiders were fed BS information in exchange for a big suprise? Thats the thing about this rumor. We know nothing and can spend weeks argueing about what cryptic thing Curto said could mean untill SDCC. but when you look at the facts, its not dead yet. Theres no cancellation. It is still alive, just going to be changed a little if he is right. Changed in some way thats supposed to be negative but we dont know that yet. it could just be negative to his own opinion.

if there is change, I'm rooting for Kitbashs and no Amazing Spidercrotch. Thank you.

[Ninjinister]

I'm sorry you last me after corgi :P

[clevelandhags]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

Cancelled.

People keep throwing this word around like it is actually happened, yet Curto, and our other gentleman have never once used the word.

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Love,our optimissim. I would be fine if, they released more comic figures in movie lines. If they kit bashed that would be ok too. Just love the line so much.

[NoodleChow]

i'm just afraid it means a comic series line in conjunction with the ongoing movie line like an avengers catch all with its own catch all comic series which means low articulation figures. from what i gathered from curto's post is that it's expensive to make the figures how we want em and the people who were pushing for things we want were canned or relocated to another license's team. also that whatever this change is, it's not going to be limited to just Marvel product. maybe not cancelled but turned into something we may not want.

[clevelandhags]

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Originally Posted by NoodleChow

i'm just afraid it means a comic series line in conjunction with the ongoing movie line like an avengers catch all with its own catch all comic series which means low articulation figures. from what i gathered from curto's post is that it's expensive to make the figures how we want em and the people who were pushing for things we want were canned or relocated to another license's team. also that whatever this change is, it's not going to be limited to just Marvel product. maybe not cancelled but turned into something we may not want.

I hear ya. Lot of variables to consider. Let me be clear, in case anyone from hasbro reads this. If the mu line is canceled I will be very upset. My buying habits will change from buying 2 of every figure (even multipacks) to cherry picking comic figures from movie lines. If the articulation gets reduced, my interest will even more. One can only take so many kit ashes and poorly articulated figures. Then ill move on to my vintage collection which is getting all my attention right now. Please, please don't kill this line.

[Shin Densetsu]

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Originally Posted by wolverine2281

whatever! state your sources Dan!

He will most likely never divulge his sources but with that said, he has had very reliable info well in advance in the past that proved to be legit. The way things are looking at retail now too, I wouldn't be surprised if everything he said turned out to be true with the post in question.