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07-19-2022, 04:07 AM | #101 |
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One of the biggest complaints from customers according to the toy stores I've spoken to seems to be there's rarely a 'normal' looking Superman or Batman among all those variants. A lot of people just want a figure of those guys looking how they know them as and don't read all the comics these crazy variations and other universe versions are from. With Batman you can more or less be satisfied with some of his many, many looks, as a few look mostly similar to each other. But Supes, his iconic look appears to be so much more ingrained into public conciousness in a more specific way. Most people don't want him in black or Death Metal or with Joker face or whatever. They just want a regular Superman which was seen in wave 1 but then became super difficult to get. The Rebirth figure was alright but again casual customers were put off by the lack of red trunks and boots. Been trying to find the wave 1 figure for my kid who's very specific. I've taken him to Forbidden Planet a few times and that huge wall of McFarlane figures and each time he just isn't interested in any of them, he thinks most of them look ugly and weird. I pointed out the DKR Superman has the classic costume but he finds the Frank Miller aesthetic hideous (which to be fair, I kinda agree, that Supes looks kinda hulk-like. lol)
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07-19-2022, 06:46 AM | #102 |
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Aye they had that in the store but it's expensive and my kid didn't like the angry face on Superman and said it doesn't fit his character for like 99 percent of the time lol
Maybe I could get it and swap the head with a non-angry Superman who has less appealing outfit. lol What's with the weird head on that page punchers one I just googled? |
07-19-2022, 07:04 AM | #103 |
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I agree. A classic trinity set in their most iconic looks and all with faces that actually suit their usual personalities and are well sculpted. I think that would sell a ton.
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07-19-2022, 07:21 AM | #104 |
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And Mattel's DC Multiverse and DC Direct's DC Essentials.
Exactly, Lois Lane wouldn't sell as well as Superman because she's a civilian character not because she's a woman, there isn't much action or enjoyment out of having civilian characters. It's the same reason Perry White or Alfred wouldn't sell as well as Wonder Woman or Catwoman. Most figure collectors prefer hero and villain characters, not civilians. The demand just isn't there for civilians, the demand is there for heroines and villainesses. |
07-19-2022, 08:30 AM | #105 |
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07-19-2022, 11:51 AM | #106 |
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07-19-2022, 03:28 PM | #107 |
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Yeah. I don't believe Mattel got those three in those costumes in their Multiverse, and neither Catwoman in their DCUC line had the black suit just purple costumes. The only black-suited Catwoman Mattel made was in the DCSH line, but that's expensive. DC Direct included all of them in their Batman Hush line.
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07-19-2022, 08:47 PM | #108 |
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One of the biggest complaints from customers according to the toy stores I've spoken to seems to be there's rarely a 'normal' looking Superman or Batman among all those variants. A lot of people just want a figure of those guys looking how they know them as and don't read all the comics these crazy variations and other universe versions are from. With Batman you can more or less be satisfied with some of his many, many looks, as a few look mostly similar to each other. But Supes, his iconic look appears to be so much more ingrained into public conciousness in a more specific way. Most people don't want him in black or Death Metal or with Joker face or whatever. They just want a regular Superman which was seen in wave 1 but then became super difficult to get. The Rebirth figure was alright but again casual customers were put off by the lack of red trunks and boots. Been trying to find the wave 1 figure for my kid who's very specific. I've taken him to Forbidden Planet a few times and that huge wall of McFarlane figures and each time he just isn't interested in any of them, he thinks most of them look ugly and weird. I pointed out the DKR Superman has the classic costume but he finds the Frank Miller aesthetic hideous (which to be fair, I kinda agree, that Supes looks kinda hulk-like. lol)
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I've looked for that Action #1000 Superman quite a few times at various stores, but he's become quite a challenge to find. You can find other Supermen, but I agree that most fans really don't want the Metal, or Zombie, or Jokerized, or even the Snyder and DKR, they want the original.
Or the Animated look, but frankly I think the Animated style figures in this line look weird. |
07-20-2022, 05:53 PM | #109 |
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Found those dc figures today
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07-22-2022, 11:04 AM | #110 |
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HUSH Poison Ivy by Mafex, you're welcome. And Knightfall Batman & Bane who Makes Toddbatverse Bane look like caca!
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07-22-2022, 12:09 PM | #111 |
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McFarlane Bane looks better
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07-22-2022, 12:10 PM | #112 |
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And a hundo cheaper, I'm guessing.
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07-22-2022, 01:34 PM | #113 |
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07-24-2022, 10:43 AM | #114 |
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Yeah. I don't believe Mattel got those three in those costumes in their Multiverse, and neither Catwoman in their DCUC line had the black suit just purple costumes. The only black-suited Catwoman Mattel made was in the DCSH line, but that's expensive. DC Direct included all of them in their Batman Hush line.
Going off of his two interviews with ShartimusPrime, much as it has been repeated in this thread, Todd lives and breathes by "rule of cool", but that's a double-edged sword. Sure, there are some figures that Todd makes that fans legitimately want (his new Bane is one of the best examples, top marks across the board) that are appealing to the eye, but then there's just the utter army of Batman variants that could've easily been replaced by a Bat-Rogue (a classic Poison Ivy, a classic or New 52 Harley, a classic black-suited Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, Ra's al Ghul, Lady Shiva, Arkham female Copperhead, Black Mask, Deadshot, Anarky, just ANYBODY) or another member of the Bat-Family (Kate Kane, Cassandra Cain, Spoiler, or even Batwing...but Terry's a good exception though). It wouldn't necessarily be a repeat of what Mattel with DCUC did because it'd be in a new scale, not to mention altered articulation and Todd's own design mindset. I give kudos to Todd for sticking to what he knows works. The question now, though, is how long it'll be until he decides to loosen up and start making the character figures (female or otherwise) his fans have been asking for. I remember ShartimusPrime reaffirming that Todd and the crew are "listening and trying to be better", so hopefully that includes better figure variation (seriously, Shart's shelf looks like it's about 75% Batmen, so hopefully it happens soon). Quote:
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07-24-2022, 02:42 PM | #115 |
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And if you can find the play arts Kai ivy at a decent price I highly recommend her, she is drop dead gorgeous. |
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