MU Darkhawk Paint Variant, anyone seen it?

Do Boy · 10-13-2011, 09:08 PM

So the one we have now is the Classic one?

mikefavata · 10-13-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Do Boy

So the one we have now is the Classic one?

As far as i'm concerned, yes.

Snowflakian · 10-13-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mikefavata

Lemme blow your minds a little bit.

Everyone was told there would be a "classic Darkhawk variant"...

The variant lately comes first (Absorbing Man, Dr. Strange, etc.)...

The current Darkhawk IS the variant!

This looks like the more modern Talon (War of Kings), which would make it the modern version.

To be fair, this has cues from the v2 classic armor. So it still can go either way. Unless the head is new though, it's not really a variant at all, nor is it classic or modern.

Won't know for certain until better and more pics are up of different angles.

Nope wait, after a quick google search, the current on market one is the Talon/Modern one. That pics straight from the WoK Ascension comic where Talon is from. No silver on front or boots.

Do Boy · 10-13-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikefavata

As far as i'm concerned, yes.

Ohh ok. Yeah I have no background information on this character. So that's good to know. Thanks

mikefavata · 10-13-2011, 09:15 PM

I definatelly want to see better pics of it.

Jason Abbadon · 10-13-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikefavata

Lemme blow your minds a little bit.

Everyone was told there would be a "classic Darkhawk variant"...

The variant lately comes first (Absorbing Man, Dr. Strange, etc.)...

The current Darkhawk IS the variant!

This looks like the more modern Talon (War of Kings), which would make it the modern version.

You nauiled it- that's freakin' TALON!

WOOT! A bad guy variant! A first!

Besides, I can easily make my own"first armor" Darkhawk from the spare I picked up- mostly paint and sanding the helmet to be more squared off.

Autobot_Goldbug · 10-13-2011, 09:18 PM

Do Boy · 10-13-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobot_Goldbug

yeah I defiantly like this one wayyy better

Snowflakian · 10-13-2011, 09:20 PM

Here's a pic of the V2 classic armor, it has the boot stylings similiar to this figure on display.

This guy looks like a mix of the current figure with the v2 markings, and the WoK head possibly.

So I've no clue what's going on design wise to which era which is supposed to be.

The current figure has all the markings of the WoK cover or Talon, but has the wrong gloves, shoulders, visor color and amulet color. It also has classic style suit references too though minus the wings and head. Which are the only seperating part of the designs too besides the mouth mask. (Classic has a more flattened point that doesn't portrude on top, only in front.) This figure doesn't match any era singularly except for some random modern comics.

But none have the full silver feet either.

Classic V2

Modern

Also:
Modern
http://www.art.com/products/p8381363...r-darkhawk.htm
Classic
http://www.collectingcomix.com/MarvelDarkHawk-19.htm
No neckpiece like the figure has.

Semi-Modern Pre-WoK
http://www.atomicthinktank.com/viewtopic.php?p=538953

More classic, but with a modern version of the classic v2 at bottom.
http://www.writeups.org/fiche.php?id=1118

Modern has the V2 boots too, but the chest markings vary from cover to cover making it modern to classic and vice versa. The interior art suggests they are interchangeable too as both modern since the other doesn't have the classic wings, or classic single arm guard. Plus classic never had the silver armored necklace piece. That's only been on the modern ones.

The head is needs a close up.

Doesn't look either one is the classic at all.

Tiberius · 10-13-2011, 09:33 PM

IF this is in FACT Talon, I would be all over this like a fat kid on a cupcake!

Snowflakian · 10-13-2011, 09:41 PM

From the pics so far and comparing them to all the previous and even my own WoK issues. It looks like both are modern, and both are Razor. Neither is classic. See examples in my post above this.

Talon is blue visor and amulet and round shoulders, but same silver markings as this has.

For all versions though, the feet are wrong. They should be silver tipped. Not full silver.

Classic also only had one wrist guard from the pics(the claw side). Modern has two(both sides). So then yeah, that settles it, these are both modern just from different covers/comics.
Though the modern with the silver markings on front shouldn't have any wrist guads. It's supposed to have silver markings on the arms like the legs, and the wings attach like falcon's.

This makes sense really, since the modern DH does switch armors on the fly. From standard, to offensive, defensive, speed type, etc. So they probably all are modern so far, but will be called whatever like how modular Ironman is really the bleeding edge armor.

Mind you, this is just going from the various art of the character. If you don't want to check my links, you can verify against a google image search, or from the issues themselves.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/0902...war-kings.html
Pics at the bottom make it more confusing which is which, but I think we can safely say without the right wing colors, and using only the wristguard on the claw hand, neither can be classic at all besides the helmet being wrong compared to the original issues various angles of reference.

Even checking Nova issue 36 which was the last appearance of Darkhawk. No silver markings, it matches the current figure except for the mouth part of the mask which seems to vary artist to artist.

*Edit*
I give up. I'm just going to appreciate the fact they broke up all the dead blue space of the figure with some silver highlights, and just enjoy it. Screw trying to figure out the era for him if he even has one in comics yet since Darkhawk hasn't appeared since Nova issue 36 (May 7th, 2010 holy crap he hasn't been in a comic in over a year!). Maybe this could be his new new modern design.
At this point, I just want to enjoy the figure even though he's not from any point in the comics (other than 2 covers that are close to this design, but not the interior art) I can tell directly. I might just buy him and paint the amulet and visor light blue and solve the mild design issue about making him Talon instead, or buy two to have one for that. He definitely isn't classic, and so far from the issues, he definitely isn't modern yet.

SKIK · 10-14-2011, 03:46 PM

hey guys,

as i was surfing the web with all the news and pics of the nycc, i came across this quote and i'm also posting the web page so you know where i got it from.

"Oh and two tid-bits of info regarding Marvel Universe variants. The Fantastic Four boxset with a half translucent Invisible Woman does exist and the Hasbro reps I spoke with today said they were not aware of any Darkhawk variant existing."

2011 NYCC - Hasbro Booth Day 2 - Packaged Pics, New Details & More Images - Marvel - MarvelousNews.com

Do Boy · 10-14-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SKIK

hey guys,

as i was surfing the web with all the news and pics of the nycc, i came across this quote and i'm also posting the web page so you know where i got it from.

"Oh and two tid-bits of info regarding Marvel Universe variants. The Fantastic Four boxset with a half translucent Invisible Woman does exist and the Hasbro reps I spoke with today said they were not aware of any Darkhawk variant existing."

2011 NYCC - Hasbro Booth Day 2 - Packaged Pics, New Details & More Images - Marvel - MarvelousNews.com

Someone already posted about the Darkhawk and I proved them wrong. As for the F4 pack the the clear version is still up in the air.

mimesociety · 12-12-2011, 12:59 PM

PROOF there is a variant! I was at ComicCon. I physically took this photo. Look at the color. Look at the Silver lines. Look at the Visor.

https://twitter.com/#!/JTQuack/statu...263552/photo/1

wolverine2281 · 12-12-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mimesociety

PROOF there is a variant! I was at ComicCon. I physically took this photo. Look at the color. Look at the Silver lines. Look at the Visor.

https://twitter.com/#!/JTQuack/statu...263552/photo/1

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This may be the pic he's referring to though

quinten182 · 12-12-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mimesociety

PROOF there is a variant! I was at ComicCon. I physically took this photo. Look at the color. Look at the Silver lines. Look at the Visor.

https://twitter.com/#!/JTQuack/statu...263552/photo/1

So your link goes to your twitter account.. which is locked only for friends.. I'm still on the side of no variant, especially with that nonsense! :P

Nexodusrex · 12-12-2011, 01:51 PM

I'm sure we'll see it sooner or later in revision waves

MegsTriggerMan · 12-12-2011, 01:53 PM

Im on the side of no variant as hasbro has said a few times now that there is no variant ... and Hasbro will typically jump on any variant bandwagon ... a pic from a Con hasbro display could easily could have just housed a preproduction piece

Peteparker · 12-12-2011, 02:54 PM

Darkhawk has already been in a revision pack and the paint wasn't changed. It seems like if they were going to change it, they would have by now.

I think the SDCC one is just a concept figure, never to see production, much like the Blonde Black Widow.

yourfacehere · 12-12-2011, 04:41 PM

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This may be the pic he's referring to though

Ohh what?

I want THAT one!

MeGrimlock79 · 12-12-2011, 05:45 PM

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This may be the pic he's referring to though

To be honest guys, that pic is not Darkhawk...it's Talon, one of the Faternity of Hawks. The mouth piece is open in the middle on that one and although it's very similiar the paint scheme is for Talon, not Darkhawk....so if we see this one is could be under another name or it could be the variant....either way, it's different and I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Check out the War of Kings: Darkhawk and Acession story lines for more on Talon

Spacemafia · 12-12-2011, 05:58 PM

Do yall see how crazy its making you all!!!

Its going to be ok if you dont own everything I promise.....

Exodus · 12-12-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemafia

Do yall see how crazy its making you all!!!

Its going to be ok if you dont own everything I promise.....

Ha ha ditto/agree!!!

Peteparker · 12-12-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemafia

Do yall see how crazy its making you all!!!

Its going to be ok if you dont own everything I promise.....

I respectfully disagree, although my wife would say otherwise...

MeGrimlock79 · 12-12-2011, 07:10 PM

I just want to own it b/c it's about time Marvel started to release more stuff that envolved the Darkhawk comics

10-13-2011, 09:09 PM	#78
Snowflakian Illyria's New Qwa'ha Xahn Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In the clouds. Posts: 4,120	Quote: Originally Posted by mikefavata Lemme blow your minds a little bit. Everyone was told there would be a "classic Darkhawk variant"... The variant lately comes first (Absorbing Man, Dr. Strange, etc.)... The current Darkhawk IS the variant! This looks like the more modern Talon (War of Kings), which would make it the modern version. To be fair, this has cues from the v2 classic armor. So it still can go either way. Unless the head is new though, it's not really a variant at all, nor is it classic or modern. Won't know for certain until better and more pics are up of different angles. Nope wait, after a quick google search, the current on market one is the Talon/Modern one. That pics straight from the WoK Ascension comic where Talon is from. No silver on front or boots. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Last edited by Snowflakian; 10-13-2011 at 09:15 PM..

10-13-2011, 09:20 PM	#84
Snowflakian Illyria's New Qwa'ha Xahn Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In the clouds. Posts: 4,120	Here's a pic of the V2 classic armor, it has the boot stylings similiar to this figure on display. This guy looks like a mix of the current figure with the v2 markings, and the WoK head possibly. So I've no clue what's going on design wise to which era which is supposed to be. The current figure has all the markings of the WoK cover or Talon, but has the wrong gloves, shoulders, visor color and amulet color. It also has classic style suit references too though minus the wings and head. Which are the only seperating part of the designs too besides the mouth mask. (Classic has a more flattened point that doesn't portrude on top, only in front.) This figure doesn't match any era singularly except for some random modern comics. But none have the full silver feet either. Classic V2 Modern Also: Modern http://www.art.com/products/p8381363...r-darkhawk.htm Classic http://www.collectingcomix.com/MarvelDarkHawk-19.htm No neckpiece like the figure has. Semi-Modern Pre-WoK http://www.atomicthinktank.com/viewtopic.php?p=538953 More classic, but with a modern version of the classic v2 at bottom. http://www.writeups.org/fiche.php?id=1118 Modern has the V2 boots too, but the chest markings vary from cover to cover making it modern to classic and vice versa. The interior art suggests they are interchangeable too as both modern since the other doesn't have the classic wings, or classic single arm guard. Plus classic never had the silver armored necklace piece. That's only been on the modern ones. The head is needs a close up. Doesn't look either one is the classic at all. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Last edited by Snowflakian; 10-14-2011 at 03:42 AM..

10-13-2011, 09:33 PM	#85
Tiberius Be Superior Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 9,891	IF this is in FACT Talon, I would be all over this like a fat kid on a cupcake! __________________

10-13-2011, 09:41 PM	#86
Snowflakian Illyria's New Qwa'ha Xahn Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In the clouds. Posts: 4,120	From the pics so far and comparing them to all the previous and even my own WoK issues. It looks like both are modern, and both are Razor. Neither is classic. See examples in my post above this. Talon is blue visor and amulet and round shoulders, but same silver markings as this has. For all versions though, the feet are wrong. They should be silver tipped. Not full silver. Classic also only had one wrist guard from the pics(the claw side). Modern has two(both sides). So then yeah, that settles it, these are both modern just from different covers/comics. Though the modern with the silver markings on front shouldn't have any wrist guads. It's supposed to have silver markings on the arms like the legs, and the wings attach like falcon's. This makes sense really, since the modern DH does switch armors on the fly. From standard, to offensive, defensive, speed type, etc. So they probably all are modern so far, but will be called whatever like how modular Ironman is really the bleeding edge armor. Mind you, this is just going from the various art of the character. If you don't want to check my links, you can verify against a google image search, or from the issues themselves. http://www.newsarama.com/comics/0902...war-kings.html Pics at the bottom make it more confusing which is which, but I think we can safely say without the right wing colors, and using only the wristguard on the claw hand, neither can be classic at all besides the helmet being wrong compared to the original issues various angles of reference. Even checking Nova issue 36 which was the last appearance of Darkhawk. No silver markings, it matches the current figure except for the mouth part of the mask which seems to vary artist to artist. Edit I give up. I'm just going to appreciate the fact they broke up all the dead blue space of the figure with some silver highlights, and just enjoy it. Screw trying to figure out the era for him if he even has one in comics yet since Darkhawk hasn't appeared since Nova issue 36 (May 7th, 2010 holy crap he hasn't been in a comic in over a year!). Maybe this could be his new new modern design. At this point, I just want to enjoy the figure even though he's not from any point in the comics (other than 2 covers that are close to this design, but not the interior art) I can tell directly. I might just buy him and paint the amulet and visor light blue and solve the mild design issue about making him Talon instead, or buy two to have one for that. He definitely isn't classic, and so far from the issues, he definitely isn't modern yet. __________________ Last edited by Snowflakian; 10-14-2011 at 03:53 AM..

12-12-2011, 01:07 PM	#90
wolverine2281 marvellegends.info Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,213	Quote: Originally Posted by mimesociety PROOF there is a variant! I was at ComicCon. I physically took this photo. Look at the color. Look at the Silver lines. Look at the Visor. https://twitter.com/#!/JTQuack/statu...263552/photo/1 @jtquack's account is protected. Only confirmed followers have access to @jtquack's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request. This may be the pic he's referring to though __________________ http://wolviestoys.com b/s/t http://www.toyark.com/wolverine2281-b-s-t-thread-76044/

10-13-2011, 09:18 PM	#82
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