[Joe Moore]

Also, here's the last post he had on it:

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As I said at Toy Fair the Q scale was just the start, there is more but same restrictions apply to us re: sales

Restrictions meaning this scale is a con only scale. They're specifically not allowed to sell in ways that would compete with retail US TMNT releases. That's why Bandai and Revoltech were ok. Different geo, market and price aim. So these molds could pop up at cons for as long as the license allows it, but if that happens, sounds like each use will be new colors.

Also, they're limiting sales to 2 per person, must have photo ID to pick up.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Tokyomeltdown

But has NECA really gone to all this trouble, just to sell a few thousand units at a stupid convention? Hope we're not being lied to (as so often happens), about an eventual retail release...

Calling SDCC a stupid convention would be like calling the Superbowl a minor spectacle. In recent years more than ever SDCC has become practically an investment for the entertainment industry to get things hyped. People literally stand in a line for hours just to be among the first to watch a new trailer and hear some Q+A from some of those involved.

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Originally Posted by RoboZib

NECA is slowly becoming one of my least favorite companies in the collecting realm, and this "fiasco" just solidifies that even more.

LOL what? This is an extreme overstatement, granted it is an opinion. As a company they've been strictly improving upon what were already good figures over the past couple of years but when ANOTHER company forces them into a limited release for a product and they move ahead under said restrictions it's treated as if it's NECA's fault. If anything this whole "fiasco" just shows how bad Playmates is since they're the ones forcing this into exclusive territory because they know at retail it would shame their stuff.

People complaining about the release method is warranted because this is so demanded but don't get frustrated with the wrong company. This is just like when they could only do the DC movie figures under a limited release as a promotion because of Mattel and WB but people blamed NECA for the difficulties.

[SPLIT LIP]

As much as I dislike NECA for their fragile ego and Pacific Rim line, this is totally not their fault. It is absolutely Playmates restricting things, not NECA. Hell, the pixel deco is probably the only way they could get these figures released at all. And despite looking far below the typical quality of NECA's sculpts due to the simple cartoony look, they still look a million times better than anything Playmates is doing. I wish they could do more, like the 2003 designs. Hell, they'd probably nail the new movie designs to a T if given the opportunity, that's right up their alley.

A damn shame Playmates couldn't work something out.

[Mike Decay]

Neca has been pretty good at selling their SDCC exclusives on their website. It's usually 24 hours only or until the item sells out. I got the Pamela Vorhees retro clothed figure last year this way.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Mike Decay

Neca has been pretty good at selling their SDCC exclusives on their website. It's usually 24 hours only or until the item sells out. I got the Pamela Vorhees retro clothed figure last year this way.

But with last year's stuff they were way on the ball about getting some out to retail beyond the convention. Yeah some people complained that it made the items less exclusive but overall the move was well received and everything that wasn't Rambo or the Pacific Rim chibis got scooped up pretty quickly. It's too bad it's not happening that way again this year.

[jwyss234]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

As much as I dislike NECA for their fragile ego and Pacific Rim line, this is totally not their fault. It is absolutely Playmates restricting things, not NECA. Hell, the pixel deco is probably the only way they could get these figures released at all. And despite looking far below the typical quality of NECA's sculpts due to the simple cartoony look, they still look a million times better than anything Playmates is doing. I wish they could do more, like the 2003 designs. Hell, they'd probably nail the new movie designs to a T if given the opportunity, that's right up their alley.

A damn shame Playmates couldn't work something out.

I doubt Playmates wants to work anything out. I checked their site and Ninja Turtles is the only brand they currently have product for on store shelves. They have a couple more licenses but there's no product for those two at the moment. Since they've been losing licenses for several years now, I'd guess that they're nearing the end and death gripping the TMNT license for as long as they can to keep the doors open. The arcade turtles may be Neca's way of showing that they have awesome product ready but they are just waiting for something to change in the near future that would allow a retail release to happen. I'm not suggesting that Neca will take Playmates' place in the toy aisle but if things were to change then they could work something out like DST did for Marvel Select.

[dCon]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

NECA said the same thing about the Keaton Batman, and they found not one, but 2 ways of getting us that figure (3 if you count the 18 inch one,) so while it could be getting my hopes up, it wouldn't surprise me to see NECA give these another crack in standard NES colors further down the line should these sell well and public outcry be loud enough. While not the same licensing situation, they did manage to re-release the SDCC Jason Voorhees (with a slightly different scheme and box.)

A second edition box set in NES colors with an NES theme that plays when you open the box flap would be awesome.

No doubt. Actually I believe it, it's sad to say it could be toy politics and ways to boost sales because if you think about who is gonna spend the extra dough if they know there is another option out there, right? Probably only like 45% of that original intended market would be my guess.

I'm new to NECA i been collecting as a collector since 1996 but I always just bought action figures as a after the fact back when toys were relatively cheap. When it was easy to buy 2 of everything in a transformers wave/line. That's w hat I collected and opwned. I didn't even open my Trendmasters Voltron and now I cant find it. So toy biz ML dC direct and
Gijoe pretty much stayed in pckg. Neca a.t.t. was into making statue figures. But recently last year I started in with the Alien line, and Robocop, and now I'm getting terminator, adding to my alien collection, and picked up Predator figures too with more lines pre ordered. I find they have the most detailed realistic sculpts and the new added articulation to their figures, like the Rocky figures, is excellent!

[OriginalFire]

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Originally Posted by webz

Well, I'm not going to San Diego, and I'm definitely not paying eBay prices, so I'm just going to hope that some seedy, soulless Chinese factory gets a hold of the molds and makes a few billion sets at $40 each.

This is probably what will happen

[305Batman]

So bootlegs it is then! Just have to wait!

[ludovicotek]

Wow, just seeing this. This has got to be one of the coolest exclusives in the history of SDCC. So awesome. Wish it were available to non-attendees like in years past. Still, mad props to NECA for even putting this out. I've said it before and I'll say it again, NECA knows how to make toys fun.

[Leo Primus]

Oh man, those are literally the same Shredder and Foot soldier molds from like '09 that never got released. I just might have to buy me some paint.

[305Batman]

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Originally Posted by ludovicotek

Wow, just seeing this. This has got to be one of the coolest exclusives in the history of SDCC. So awesome. Wish it were available to non-attendees like in years past. Still, mad props to NECA for even putting this out. I've said it before and I'll say it again, NECA knows how to make toys fun.

Except for when they break when you try to move a limb,then they're not much fun!

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by 305Batman

Except for when they break when you try to move a limb,then they're not much fun!

That has still literally never happened to me and I'm currently at around 75 NECA figures, far too many to say it's luck. Also I'm not so gentle that they're being treated as relics either, I've had toys break under less pressure (looking at you McFarlane and Funko). I'm not saying NECA's got top-notch QC because obviously they don't but I am saying that among the American collectible toy companies they are close to the top of QC, which speaks more so to the entire failings of QC across the board.

[suchaname]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

That has still literally never happened to me and I'm currently at around 75 NECA figures, far too many to say it's luck. Also I'm not so gentle that they're being treated as relics either, I've had toys break under less pressure (looking at you McFarlane and Funko). I'm not saying NECA's got top-notch QC because obviously they don't but I am saying that among the American collectible toy companies they are close to the top of QC, which speaks more so to the entire failings of QC across the board.

+1, but I have to say, recently NECA's figs are on the slide in my experience.

Preds broken or missing hands, Alien figures that are laughably painted or broken... And it only seems to be certain figures, like the Kenner AvP two pack or the prototype Alien.

[Mike Decay]

Well then...that sucks. Soooo...anyone going to comic con?

[VashTS]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

As much as I dislike NECA for their fragile ego and Pacific Rim line, this is totally not their fault. It is absolutely Playmates restricting things, not NECA. Hell, the pixel deco is probably the only way they could get these figures released at all. And despite looking far below the typical quality of NECA's sculpts due to the simple cartoony look, they still look a million times better than anything Playmates is doing. I wish they could do more, like the 2003 designs. Hell, they'd probably nail the new movie designs to a T if given the opportunity, that's right up their alley.

A damn shame Playmates couldn't work something out.

Playmates suck. I would love a social media type backlash towards Playmates for sucking hard. ABout time they get their balls rung.

[Wonderful Toys]

I'm sick of all the licensing politics in the toy industry. The companies that monopolize so many movie and comic licenses are the ones who don't want to do a damn thing with them but produce the cheapest products possible for maximum profit, and then there's all these hyper-detailed figures being made in Asia that they can't even legally sell here because jokers like Playmates and Mattel hog the rights. Seriously, why does the American toy industry mostly suck(with a few exceptions like NECA)?

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Toys

there's all these hyper-detailed figures being made in Asia that they can't even legally sell here because jokers like Playmates and Mattel hog the rights.

I believe with the Asian companies like Bandai's SH or Figma they also already know they have a huge market on their turf so there's no pressure or incentive to expand given, what for them would be, exportation costs. It seems the idea is they're doing well at home so why bother expanding? It's not like they've come out and said as much but there is logic to my thoughts on this.

[dukefett]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Because SH naturally cost a lot more and are immediately considered high end collectibles, they have to be imported in the first place. NECA on the other hand retails for around $20 and can be found in the same stores as the Playmates toys so at that point their intended consumers don't matter because their presence could represent a threat to Playmates, thus NECA isn't allowed to normally produce TMNT figures.

FYI the TMNT SH Figuarts aren't being imported, they are licensed for release here. BBTS and Amazon (shipped/sold from Amazon) both have them listed for preorder at cheaper prices that the Bandai Web Exclusive price.

I'm actually moving to San Diego in 2 weeks. If I can scalp a ticket to the show I'll definitely try to pick these sets up!

[Startaiger]

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Toys

Seriously, why does the American toy industry mostly suck(with a few exceptions like NECA)?

I don't agree (& i'm not even american ). Hasbro is doing a great job with ML & Star Wars, DCC produce some very good stuff, Funko's Legacy are more than decent, Mezco one:12 looks like a new standard for 6" figures, & McFarlane is on the rise with their new 6/7" line + NECA you already mentioned.
So, OK, Mattel & (maybe) Playmates suck, but they're not the majority of U.S toys manufacturers.

[305Batman]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

That has still literally never happened to me and I'm currently at around 75 NECA figures, far too many to say it's luck. Also I'm not so gentle that they're being treated as relics either, I've had toys break under less pressure (looking at you McFarlane and Funko). I'm not saying NECA's got top-notch QC because obviously they don't but I am saying that among the American collectible toy companies they are close to the top of QC, which speaks more so to the entire failings of QC across the board.

I was just speaking from personal experience,my first Keaton Batman's left knee snapped taking it out of the package,Reeve's knees won't swivel no matter how much heat or boiling water I use,saw more than a few 8 bit Batmans and Predators with limbs floating around in the package,not to mention all the posts I've read regarding breakage issues,it appears you have been quite lucky!

[Louise Belcher]

Finally, a decent action figure of Shredder...and it's in video game colors, isn't sold as an individual figure, is a SDCC exclusive..CURSE YOU PLAYMATES!!!
Oh well, I will wait for the more expensive fragile Shredder from S.H. Figuarts, my playline turtles will probably kick his butt. By the way, am I the only one who noticed Sherdder female posture in the box? His legs are going inward and his arms are very close to his body.

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Toys View Post
Seriously, why does the American toy industry mostly suck(with a few exceptions like NECA)?
I don't agree (& i'm not even american ). Hasbro is doing a great job with ML & Star Wars, DCC produce some very good stuff, Funko's Legacy are more than decent, Mezco one:12 looks like a new standard for 6" figures, & McFarlane is on the rise with their new 6/7" line + NECA you already mentioned.
So, OK, Mattel & (maybe) Playmates suck, but they're not the majority of U.S toys manufacturers.

When it comes to playline toys (which I more care about) the toy industry indeed suck and this due to the following reasons; Children less play with classic toys and instead play more unimaginative video games, the toy companies are enslaved to licenses instead of making original stuff and the main reason is USA becoming more and more socialist with heavy regulation and high taxes following the path of venezuela...

[Startaiger]

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Originally Posted by Louise Belcher

Finally a decent action figure of Shredder...and it's in video game colors, isn't sold as an individual figure, is a SDCC exclusive..CURSE YOU PLAYMATES!!!



When it comes to playline toys (which I more care about) the toy industry indeed suck and this due to the following reasons; Children less play with classic toys and instead play more unimaginative video games, the toy companies are enslaved to licenses instead of making original stuff and the main reason is USA becoming more and more socialist with heavy regulation and high taxes following the path of venezuela...

What I'm talking about (and I think Wonderful Toys also was) is the quality of the products, not how original the lines are.

[Louise Belcher]

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What I'm talking about (and I think Wonderful Toys also was) is the quality of the products, not how original the lines are.

There isn't a lot of diversity and creativity in toys today, also the quality of products is actually decreasing with less painting, less articulation..

[Startaiger]

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Originally Posted by Louise Belcher

There isn't a lot of diversity and creativity in toys today,

I agree on this point, but this is only true for the mass-market where the licence is what make the product go. Now you can find diversity & creativity from small manufacturers on Kickstarter.

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also the quality of products is actually decreasing with less painting, less articulation..

Now I don't agree. Lines like Hasbro's SW Black Series & ML are improving over time, NECA Funko & Mezco are also uping their games.