[Sithlord1963]

So, Civil War Falcon -

Articulation wise he has ball joint shoulders, elbows, hips, double jointed knees, swivel waist, rocker ankles and ball joint/pivot neck (so yes, he can look up and down)!

Sculpt is pretty much spot on for the CW uniform. The wings are huge and have a swivel so can deploy both horizontally and vertically.

Paint apps are pretty good with little to no noticeable paint bleed.

Accessory wise you get the goggle less Mackie head, wingless jet/backpack and a Redwing which comes in three pieces (Redwing, a clear plastic pipe which I'm guessing is for display purposes as it fits in the back pack, and a removable exhaust plume. The goggle less Mackie head has a tiny spot of black paint bleed from the goatee which is on the bottom lip but easily fixable.

Cost was approx. $21 plus postage from Robot Kingdom and received it less than 5 working days from placing the order.

Purely IMHO this is a solid 9 out of 10 for me as it ticks all the boxes bar swivel wrists which if needed is a relatively straight forward customising fix.

[Sithlord1963]

And some very quick pics:

[Sithlord1963]

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Originally Posted by ukmu

Anyone else have a last minute prediction???

Prediction-wise I'd expect to see the white suit Moon Knight and a MCU Cumberbatch Strange.

I expect the usual stiff ignoring for AOS and have just about learnt to cope with my disappointment every year!

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Kernel

You know it's funny I just stopped by marshals and they have antman 6" legends for $9.99 and marvel infinite 3.75" figures for the same price!

and you think 6" line is suffering because you seen a wave at 9.99???lol how about picking up an entire wave of 4" for 9.99???cant say i ever seen a legends wave at that price in recent years?and what about those sentinels that could not sell?collectors didnt seem to have a problem flipping them after they purchased them at 20 a pop,you think hasbro/marvel employees dont come to these sites and see the stuff some people post?

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Originally Posted by Lionheart

They have reduced the quality of the MU figures by cheapening the plastic and cutting back on artic / accessories, yet the price went up. At the same time they kept the price of Legends low and gave tons of bang for the buck. If Legends were priced like MU they should be $40-50 - but they aren't. I still think MU is being squeezed for maximum profitability, and Legends is being treated as a premium line with costs being offset by increased profit margins on MU.



The 'value' of Legends is coming at the expense of MU being less value for money - not despite it.



It's pretty much what Dwight wanted isn't it? He's in charge of Marvel at Hasbro. It's win-win for him: If MU keeps selling enough then he can use the larger profit margin to subsidise Legends, but if enough people ditch MU and switch to Legends he can point to increasing sales as evidence of fan demand.




It really doesn't. I'd like to be a Human-Fly on the wall at a Hasbro meeting...

you only need to go back through the old 3.75" thread to see where the problem lies,even back before universe was conceived legends was getting pretty much the same standard as they get today,the only thing that has changed is packaging,now you assume our line is doing well regardless,i disagree because if our line was making the money you think it does then the quality would be retained,we would have seen proper waves for recent marvel movies but instead the 6" line gets them,we have gone through several rebrands,now we are attached to "legends".again if our line was as popular it would retain its own name.you dont need to be a fly on the wall to see what is going on.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by ukmu

Ten early morning thoughts on the SDCC 2016 Hasbro Marvel panel day

1. Netflix figures in 3.75"? Never ever ever happen.

2. 6" has a MUCH greater profit margin for manufacturers. Talking pennies more to make and package and almost double the wholesale cost.

3. 2018 Hasbro does lose its Marvel 3.75" contract. (Thank fuck for that) Time will tel of they renew it- smart money says no.

D. Good to see us Raf!!!

5. Dwight Stall is getting most of us to defect. He is a Smurf that lies with barn animals. But he is winning.

6. Twitter account for them? It would be FULL of death threats and clown porn! Not gonna lie, a lot of it from me. I need something to do in my "me time", smoking crack and worshipping Satan has bored me.


7. That TMNT cockroach turtle four armed guy is cool. Nice job (I'm guessing) Pilk but ZERO idea as to what the he'll that character is about. I'm sure Uni will take some amazing shots of him though. His Dairy Queen is probably the busiest intergalactic timeline variable restaurant in the known toy verse.

8. Looking forward to midnight here in UK, when it is 4pm in California. Get to see the panel!!! Anyone have a link to a stream??? If so share it up!

9. Final chance for a SINGLE prediction.... I'll go, something with a realistic chance- I'm hoping for a female (as there seems to be a lot of them conning around since Hasbro was publicly ridiculed after Rae in TFA)... I'm going CRYSTAL. (and with a yellow female buck we can make a POSABLE version of Hellcat.... warm and fuzzy feeling, yea)

10. Anyone else have a last minute prediction???

i think the marketing was all wrong,instead of releasing several lines at once it would have been better for marvel/hasbro to just include the movie figures in the universe line,price them at a reasonable price,drop gimmicks on 3.75" and keep them for mashers and other child friendly lines.again i think hasbro will retain the licence for 6" thats a no-brainer but i seriously think they are going to sit down and discuss the future of 3.75" going forward from 2018 and its highly possible they will drop it.

[Kamatayan]

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Originally Posted by 3233rafael

Know your variants...(except Bag Head, I just have 2)...

Damn you you glorious bastard!

[Kamatayan]

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Originally Posted by ukmu

Ten early morning thoughts on the SDCC 2016 Hasbro Marvel panel day

1. Netflix figures in 3.75"? Never ever ever happen.

3. 2018 Hasbro does lose its Marvel 3.75" contract. (Thank fuck for that) Time will tel of they renew it- smart money says no.

6. Twitter account for them? It would be FULL of death threats and clown porn! Not gonna lie, a lot of it from me. I need something to do in my "me time", smoking crack and worshipping Satan has bored me.

8. Looking forward to midnight here in UK, when it is 4pm in California. Get to see the panel!!! Anyone have a link to a stream??? If so share it up!

9. Final chance for a SINGLE prediction.... I'll go, something with a realistic chance- I'm hoping for a female (as there seems to be a lot of them conning around since Hasbro was publicly ridiculed after Rae in TFA)... I'm going CRYSTAL. (and with a yellow female buck we can make a POSABLE version of Hellcat.... warm and fuzzy feeling, yea)

10. Anyone else have a last minute prediction???

1. I'm gonna stay optimistic with that. If this line drops dead I want a few Netflix figures before that.

3. What are the chances of someone else picking that up? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I know next to nothing on this kind of stuff.

6. I totally agree with ukmu here, that would be a shit storm. Not just from the people whoa actually collect, but from a lot of the kids. If you've ever seen the comments section of a Marvel 3.75" review there are a lot of kids spewing shit at Hasbro. Most of the time it doesn't even look like they know what they're talking about.

8. Gonna need that stream, guys! Put it up!

Also, I hate whenever somebody brings up that Rey thing. Anyone who knows jack about collecting knows that the whole fiasco was horse shit. There was an abundance of Rey figures, but collectors ate them up. One of the main reasons I got mad about that was because the people who complained about that were just shitting on everything beforehand so I felt kind of territorial when they started attacking Hasbro and the collecting community.

Sorry for the small rant.

9. I'm gonna stay optimistic and hope for an MCU Strange and maybe prototypes for MCU Guardians. Also, I'd love some more ANAD stuff. We might even get an ANAD Deadpool. But I'm afraid they won't be able to pull out another Deadpool because ever since the movie most people are aware of the fact that Deadpool is a really inappropriate and graphic character and the figure might not sit well with parents. We might also get an ANAD Old Man Logan since the comic is doing really well and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine movie which is most likely gonna be based off of the original Old Man Logan comic is coming out fairly soon

[Kamatayan]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Marvel SDCC reveals. We have a Defenders teaser, a Luke Cage trailer, and an AoS Ghost Rider confirmation. I'm not talking about Hellfire by the way.

[Snowflakian]

Wow, so much doom and gloom.

I thought the 2018 contract was for the full marvel license, not only 3.75''. That's why it was so exciting when Hasbro first got the contract from Toy Biz, because fans expected it to mean that Hasbro who was known for 3.75'' figures with GI Joe might make those now having the Marvel license. Which is what led to MU happening in the first place.

If they were so keen to drop the line entirely of that scale, we wouldn't see any new sculpts like the 4 we have so far. (Uk spidey and Lady Deadpool are re-releases/new paint apps.)

3.75'' won't get dropped bare minimum until they do Kate Bishop Hawkeye, America Chavez, and Nico Minoru. With the biggest MCU sales potential still coming up, I'd expect Hasbro to renew it. Especially after the success that Ironman 2 was on figure sales under them.

Hellcat and Crystal both seem likely since it's a very easy already made figure. They only need different headsculpts on existing figures. Minimal re-sculpting or new parts. Though I'd almost prefer they use Hellcat on a combination of the Ms. Marvel and X-23 bucks to give some better articulation ranges in the arms at least unless they finally fixed the hip issue on the X-23 buck for the All-new Wolverine version.

Keep in mind that hasbro reads feedback occasionally. So getting all pissy and angry and insulting is only likely to make them care less what you think and not want to bother listening. Constructive criticism.

Act like a spoiled manbaby, they'll treat you like one.

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That looks awesome! I'm hoping it sells really well so they see the potential in doing more MCU figures like this with higher accessories and alternate heads like they've suggested they wanted to look into in the past.

[LordMudd]

IF they do a Hellcat, and do it right with claws on the hands and feet, which they probably won't, it would make a Tigra custom easier.


CCC.

[Kamatayan]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

With the biggest MCU sales potential still coming up, I'd expect Hasbro to renew it.

That's something I hadn't considered. But if they renewed us for that specific purpose won't they have to deal with us for X amount of time after their hypothetical MCU payday, which is something they'd want to avoid?

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by LordMudd

IF they do a Hellcat, and do it right with claws on the hands and feet, which they probably won't, it would make a Tigra custom easier.


CCC.

Depends on how they do the claws yeah. If she gets new clawed hands instead of them trying to use the Black Panther ones, Tigra could be an easy repaint from it definitely.

So the ideal for that would be X-23 buck and arms, new hands, new head, and maybe Ms. Marvel legs unless they fixed the upper leg hip joint issue that X-23's legs had(though I much prefer the new ankles over that old style). Which it seems they have with figures like the Jane Foster Thor. So maybe. Hellcat and Tigra would both need swivel arms though. Can't do cat like poses if the arms can only move up or down at the shoulder and a straight bend at the elbow like the original Ms. Marvel mold had.

We may have lost some of the torso articulation, but the new ankles and better arm joints have provided some much better dynamic poses, and Jane Foster Thor even got double jointed elbows herself with bicep swivel.

I'm looking forward to the future of the 3.75'' line if they merge a lot of what they've tested out to give us some better figures in the future. Our line has come a long way from that first wave to what we have now in both sculpt and dynamic poses from articulation.

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Originally Posted by Kamatayan

That's something I hadn't considered. But if they renewed us for that specific purpose won't they have to deal with us for X amount of time after their hypothetical MCU payday, which is something they'd want to avoid?

Well if the hype stays strong enough after that, Marvel would be so mainstreamed that sales should linger for the duration of the renewal as the marvel presence would be above even pop-culture status for a few years. Especially with how fast the tv side is growing. Thanks to Netflix and the new round of AOS cameos, the TV side is quickly starting to outshine even the movie side. A large chunk of that though is also because of the weekly format and immediate access as opposed to the only 2-3 films a year pattern.

The benefit though is in combination, it's a year long push of marvel material, and potential for sales.

That's why I feel hasbro was biding their time to wait for a moment to surge everything out from induced demand. So if that's the case, we should be seeing that soon. Either this SDCC or next. The 'disappointment' when they've yet to even do the panel shows that this SDCC would be a good time, but next SDCC would cause an equal uproar too(unless that's too far in the direction of people feeling defeated already over it and gave up). I don't have the Marvel movie slate in front of me to check, but the AOS and Netflix build shows now is a really close time to go ahead and do it anyway because of the sheer amount of MCU variety available now, which in turn could in theory bolster the comics styled figures as they fit to both the animated mediums and comics, as well as the games.

But we also have to be prepared for the fact that it may wait until next year's SDCC because of what they can or cannot show due to spoilers in those various yet to be released shows. So right now I expect maybe some announcements of potential they can't yet show due to spoilers, but in the mean time a lot of material from what's in the All-New Marvel comic line ups and heavy fan demanded characters like Kate Bishop, Kamala Khan, Nico Minoru, and more.

If they show a squirrel girl... Then yeah I'd expect white tiger, Tigra, and Hellcat to not be far behind either.
They've covered a lot of what's in the Ultimate Spider-man toon already, so I'd expect somethings from that like Agent Venom that was rumored before too.

Lots of possibilities.
I'm kind of hoping Marvel gives the okay for spoiler-ish reveals though. It'd help build hype for the shows. We know ghost rider is coming to AoS, so seeing what the potential Robbie Reyes one would look like could help bolster that and the marvel toys while still keeping other potential secret cameos secret if Johnny Blaze is set to appear but they don't want to talk about that to keep it a surprise.

Ironfist has no costume reveal as yet, but they do have a backlog between Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Kingpin, Daredevil, Elektra, and Punisher they could show instead.

Deathlok and Quake definitely need figures too. And everyone still wants Coulson, Melinda May, Mockingbird, along with Fitz and Simmons too.

And there's MCU absorbing man too.


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Besides, we've seen how Mattel treats the 3.75'' scale too. It's not very well. Hasbro is the original pioneers of this scale. The 6'' offerings have been getting better and better too. The toy license for Marvel is better off at Hasbro and is profitable for them. Maybe not as much as properties they own themselves, but that's true for any company and licensed goods.

The abuse from fans and the rather mean commentary is what needs to go. That's something we ourselves need to correct within our ranks as fans so we can keep getting the material we love.

It's one thing to express our love for a line and praise, it's another when it devolves into attacks, threats, and meanness. Constructive criticism can help the line. Calling them names and belittling them for trying to bring us what we asked for is only going to make them wonder why they bother.

Maybe if we did that, Hasbro would also better know how to meet our needs for what we want.

Like the recent legends 6'' Nico Minoru. Amazing figure, but doing her in 3.75'' with as many part swaps wouldn't be possible. The arm construction on this scale for the figures don't have the same type of versatility. They could however get two figures of her out like they did in the early days of MU like Ms. Marvel had with her variant figure. Only this time it'd be about which arm she had and how much translucent plastic it used. Or they could focus on doing the one with the translucent plastic as the release solely. It looks cooler. (Either way, I want that character!)

This is the problem overall with comic fans. Hasbro wants sales. They want success. They want to know when they've done a good job. They don't want to be constantly told how much they suck for trying to give us what we wanted to buy. They also do have to deal with retailers too. And when retailers see us giving hasbro that kind of flack, they also think "why should we bother, these are not the kinds of customers we want in our stores."

We're shooting ourselves in the foot when we let people do mean tirades like that for no genuine reason.

Like Ukmu above thinking he's being funny with his hateful remarks. That kind of negativity and over-entitlement perpetuating is what's hurting the fanbase.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Wow, so much doom and gloom.

I thought the 2018 contract was for the full marvel license, not only 3.75''. That's why it was so exciting when Hasbro first got the contract from Toy Biz, because fans expected it to mean that Hasbro who was known for 3.75'' figures with GI Joe might make those now having the Marvel license. Which is what led to MU happening in the first place.

If they were so keen to drop the line entirely of that scale, we wouldn't see any new sculpts like the 4 we have so far. (Uk spidey and Lady Deadpool are re-releases/new paint apps.)

3.75'' won't get dropped bare minimum until they do Kate Bishop Hawkeye, America Chavez, and Nico Minoru. With the biggest MCU sales potential still coming up, I'd expect Hasbro to renew it. Especially after the success that Ironman 2 was on figure sales under them.

Hellcat and Crystal both seem likely since it's a very easy already made figure. They only need different headsculpts on existing figures. Minimal re-sculpting or new parts. Though I'd almost prefer they use Hellcat on a combination of the Ms. Marvel and X-23 bucks to give some better articulation ranges in the arms at least unless they finally fixed the hip issue on the X-23 buck for the All-new Wolverine version.

Keep in mind that hasbro reads feedback occasionally. So getting all pissy and angry and insulting is only likely to make them care less what you think and not want to bother listening. Constructive criticism.

Act like a spoiled manbaby, they'll treat you like one.



That looks awesome! I'm hoping it sells really well so they see the potential in doing more MCU figures like this with higher accessories and alternate heads like they've suggested they wanted to look into in the past.

i dont think anyones being angry or pissy nor is there a sense of doom and gloom.i dont want to see an end to MU,but i do see how sales go in my city and other cities/countries,and ive come to the conclusion the reason the line has been hit with cuts is because of sales,NOT to make another line better.consider that legends had several waves out under hasbro before they went into 3.75" territory and that the 3.75" line came into existence thanks to dave vonner.2018 is going to be an interesting year.

[ukmu]

1007 is perhaps my favourite page now! Love every word on this!

Can't wait for a few hours when we all know what is in the works! Best weekend to read ToyArk each year.

I am REALLY missing the Marvel dioramas every year.

[MUfan97]

Snowflakian, I don't want to have to crop out a part of your comment just to reply to it, so I'll just say that I agree with maybe lessening the negativity. We should show our protest to the lessening articulation, of course, but if it gets to the point of bitterness, you need to wind down a bit. I was very bitter about this, and the general treatment of our scale last year, and all it did was make me feel miserable. It's not good for the fanbase, or to yourself, so try to see the positives, like better decos and stuff like that. Things ARE looking up a LITTLE bit, so maybe put some sugar in that lemonade, you know?

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Jackieboy

i dont think anyones being angry or pissy nor is there a sense of doom and gloom.i dont want to see an end to MU,but i do see how sales go in my city and other cities/countries,and ive come to the conclusion the reason the line has been hit with cuts is because of sales,NOT to make another line better.consider that legends had several waves out under hasbro before they went into 3.75" territory and that the 3.75" line came into existence thanks to dave vonner.2018 is going to be an interesting year.

Well, part of that is also how much backlogs happened because of circumstances like the dock strikes and there are other factors to consider too.

An additional rebranding helped alleviate that backlog. Sales on hasbro's end are to retailers though, and right now is a sales lull anyway as retailers are focused elsewhere.

That has to do with toy market trends. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration. But I'm pretty sure Hasbro will stick with the Marvel license overall. If I were marvel, I'm not sure I'd trust other toy companies with the license. Even Mattel then seemed rather quick to end the 3.75'' multiverse line, even if those were pretty decent figures.

I'm pretty sure Hasbro has the master toy license outside of building block figures. Hence why no Kre-o and Lego has it instead. Which works for lego really as the perk to them isn't so much the actual physical goods as more the media like video games and animated specials in their style. Though the builds on their vehicles is amazing, I *personally* still lean heavier on Kre-o and Megabloks COD/Halo style mini-figs. Kids and collectors both seem to enjoy the lego style though, so if it's selling, what's to really complain about. Mega bloks had their turn already as short lived as it was.

And my remarks weren't aimed at you anyway. More towards the general negativity and constant bashing that the line gets from many users. Including even how many of the 6'' fans continue to toss hate and attitude about it.

[Lionheart]

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6" has a MUCH greater profit margin for manufacturers. Talking pennies more to make and package and almost double the wholesale cost.

I'd like to see some evidence for that. There's almost 5 times as much plastic in the box (and better quality). The main figure has better tooling, better paints, accessories with unique sculpts / paints, and a BAF part with different tooling and paints, all in a better larger box, which will cost more to ship out.

You may be 100% correct, but I'd need to see some accurate stats on costs, etc, or to hear an insider explain how it works. Because right now I believe Dwight has reduced the budget for MU while increasing the price - thus increasing the margins, but seems to be able to do almost anything with Legends while keeping the price the same. Something stinks.

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5. Dwight Stall is getting most of us to defect. He is a Smurf that lies with barn animals. But he is winning.

This.

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you only need to go back through the old 3.75" thread to see where the problem lies,even back before universe was conceived legends was getting pretty much the same standard as they get today,the only thing that has changed is packaging,

The price has barely changed - that's my point. Now look at what MU was getting when it started and how much it cost. It doesn't add up.

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now you assume our line is doing well regardless,i disagree because if our line was making the money you think it does then the quality would be retained, we would have seen proper waves for recent marvel movies but instead the 6" line gets them,we have gone through several rebrands,now we are attached to "legends".again if our line was as popular it would retain its own name.you dont need to be a fly on the wall to see what is going on.

I'm not saying the line is doing well, I'm saying someone who doesn't care for the line has squeezed maximum profit from it without a care as to whether the line tanks. That profit can then offset the costs (or reduced profits) on his favoured Legends line. It all comes under the Marvel banner and he can allocate resources as he sees fit.

As for the Marvel movie lines: I think they (starting with Iron Man 2) tended to overproduce figures which then didn't sell - nobody outside of a small collectors community wanted 15 different Iron Man's or 8 different Captain America's. With Legends they tend to have scaled the numbers back considerably which is a wise marketing decision that came after lessons learned on the 4 inch scale. The re-branding was meant to prevent retailer confusion, remember? Then they re-branded again attaching the Legends name which is even more confusing. But not when you consider that it now makes it a subsidiary of the main Legends line, which justifies Dwight saying "Those are just Legends for kids and a few 4 inch collectors. They don't need artic or accessories - that should be with the main line."

You don't really need to be a fly on the wall to realise that when someone who doesn't like 4 inch takes over the Marvel division then immediatlely cuts most accessories from the box, cuts back on artic, cheapens the plastic, and hikes the price, while not doing that to the line he likes, that this is not an 'economic' decision at all. It's possible that Hasbro has made this a general decision across the board - focus on 6 inch, but who knows.

I bet, I *bet*, that to make a Legends figure all-in the box and get them on store shelves costs something like between $10-14. But the same cost for MU would be between $3-5. That would give legends something like 100% profit (max), but MU would have between 200-300% profit. Now my costs numbers may be off, but I guarantee that the difference in cost between MU and Legends isn't, and nor are the profit margins. Dwight took over and then said "The average budget for a 4 inch fig has to be X and you need to work within that".

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Wow, so much doom and gloom.

You're right. Blind optimism is so much better. Especially when discussing a toyline that has had it quality lowered significantly and it's price raised. If the line continues this way we'll be paying $50 for an unarticulated low-grade chunk of plastic in a white box. Ok, that's an exaggeration.

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Keep in mind that hasbro reads feedback occasionally. So getting all pissy and angry and insulting is only likely to make them care less what you think and not want to bother listening. Constructive criticism.

"Pissy and angry and insulting"? You know that using shaming language to discredit the people speaking isn't actually an argument, right? Especially when there isn't any anger being displayed.

Oh, and Hasbro's decision making has very little to do with what people say on collectors forums (like this).

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Act like a spoiled manbaby, they'll treat you like one.

They are not parents who make decisions based on people's behaviour. "Be nice and Hasbro will give you what you want. Complain and you won't get anything." Fans forum comments literally have *nothing* to do with it. Hasbro is a business - not a daycare deciding who gets ice cream.

And the idea that complaints (mostly legitimate) from collectors who have invested time and money into Hasbro products automatically means they are "acting like a spoiled manbaby" is an exaggeration at best, and at worst yet another farcical attempt at shaming language. People have opinions. People are entitled to express them. If you disagree with them feel free to express your own opinion. But to constantly imply some kind of inherent wrongness in what people are saying by framing it all with shaming language doesn't actually make their point less valid, or yours more valid.

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Deathlok and Quake definitely need figures too.

Deathlok had a MU figure.

[Kernel]

Last minute predictions for me are old man Logan, Odin , comic heimdall, friggin skurge! (Ragnarok comes out in 2017) mantis, Angela, and maybe bug (GOTG 2 also in 2016) and carnage, kingpin, venom, or some other spidey villains (homecoming in 2017) and maybe even an Michael Keaton vulture. Also maybe a deaths head II and night thrasher (just because we got Deaths head 1 and rage) and some squadron supreme since we've now gotten 3 hyperions (power princess and dr spectrum and a super batman knockoff version of night hawk).
Oh yeah almost forgot a Hela (cate blanchett or comic version).

[snake5289]

MCU Dr. Strange or bust

[Snowflakian]

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Deathlok had a MU figure.

I'm talking MCU, not comic. You know, like all the other MCU characters I said next to him.

And that Smurf remark is the very thing I'm talking about as being pissy and personal attacks that make us look bad as fans.

I'm not blind optimistic. I'm looking at toy market trends and factors associated to that.

But hey, whatever, wait until the panel. I'd rather hear what hasbro has to say and show than talk about hearsay without evidence too.

So how about we wait and see. Though I do expect some decent reveals, the big stuff I don't expect until next year or the year after. Depends where the focus is going to be right now.

[bmorr]

after seeing the preview night pics from SDCCC i wasnt excited for any of what was put out

[spade]

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after seeing the preview night pics from SDCCC i wasnt excited for any of what was put out

Agreed. I always prefer characters that never had a figure. Atleast 60-40 split between pre marvel now and marvel now.

[ukmu]

The dude is an asshat Snow. I wish that they actually DID read this thread...at least they would know we are passionate.

As I type this...it is 55 minutes before the reveal panel, where I'm sure, the 3.75" line will get its 7 minutes amongst the hour long panel. And as in years past, it WONT be Stall talking about it but one of his toadies while he sits on the panel and smirks as we see slide after slide of disappointment....

There WILL be a few GOLDEN flakes strewn amongst there pebbles for sure. Alas though, upon release we will be dismayed by just how underwhelming they really are.

I am still 100% a HUGE fan about this line, and yes I am VERY passionate about it. That is why I called him a Smurf. I made that up, it's true.... the barn animal thing though, I have my theories! Lighten up, there only toys and we all mates! I honestly hope I'm wrong and I will admit if so. I hope it is the start of climbing back to greatness and this will be a banner uear.

Here's to hope!!!!!

[Mordiganne]

I largely stay out of these "everything sucks" vs "everything's great" debates because, overall, they're really pointless and kind of annoying. lol Hasbro, like any company, makes what they make and your (generic you) options boil down to buy it or don't. Not much else you can do, but if complaining helps you cope/deal, have at it!

My philosophy has always been: If you think the figures are too expensive for what you get, don't buy them and invest your hobby money elsewhere. There's a lot of figures that Hasbro is making now that I don't like, but I just don't buy them. Just seems easier to me.

All that said, I don't have any interest in the majority of the current comic characters/costumes, MCU or Netflix figures regardless of the scale, but for the rest of you, I hope that you get some bones thrown your way so you can enjoy the hobby.

[Mordiganne]

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after seeing the preview night pics from SDCCC i wasnt excited for any of what was put out

While not "excited" I do like the X-23 Wolverine. Dunno what they're calling her in the comics these days since I don't read them but that's a nice looking figure. Agree with you on the rest of the showings though.