[Autobot_Goldbug]

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Originally Posted by Il Cattivo

just remembered I saw this zangief at a local shop a while back. actually doesn't look bad.

hmmm Hasbro could just re-use the Hercules buck with a new head if they wanted to

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Sender

True. As many of us have integrated ToyBiz's Marvel 5" figures into our MU collections in some form or another already.









By "Most", it's really Hasbro that's dropping the 3.75 inch ball here.

Lanard has soldiered on through the decades and Mattel axed their 3.75 inch DC lines years back.

While Star Wars is bringing back their Vintage Collection, their vehicles and playsets offerings have significantly dropped over the past decade. And "bigger" couldn't be more true, with the recent HasLab projects.

No one really knows when Hasbro's hiatus for GI Joe and Marvel Universe will end either. Outside of the recent GamerVerse two packs, which does NOT have any further news of late; We can only speculate a couple years from now.
But that doesn't quell the demand that many MU fans have now especially with the largest Marvel blockbuster movies and sequels, not to mention the end of an Avengers saga/cast.

As a result, kickstarters, back-collecting, and other brands are what many 3.75 inch collectors are up to now.

MU as an active line is in the boneyard now along with the rest of those cult lines that never really could find the fanbase that lines such as starwars,transformers,legends have.star wars always takes a breather,GI joe will be back but maybe in legends scale this time round???
the first 3 years of MU had mediocre success,but rapidly declined afterwards.with most of the legends collectors dropping it,final nail in the coffin!!!it could not sustain itself at a profitable level with the fanbase it currently has.so why should Hasbro pander to a "handful" of people???

really the only people profiting off MU are customisers and scalpers.notice at last years con how legends have gone full tilt on customising made easy display set up they had?plus all the options and accessories you get with their latest waves?seems they wnt to encourage people to try their hand at customising by providing the pieces neccessary???a very smart move!!!

[DerStahlhelm]

I used a mix of Hercules buck parts for my Zangief.. I’m pretty sure the torso and legs are Executioner, the arms are Ares, and the boots are Omega Red, with a head cast from Ragin’ Spoon.

[Il Cattivo]

I think that head would fit even better on that thanos body.

[Sender]

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Originally Posted by Jackieboy

MU as an active line is in the boneyard now along with the rest of those cult lines that never really could find the fanbase that lines such as starwars,transformers,legends have.star wars always takes a breather,GI joe will be back but maybe in legends scale this time round???
the first 3 years of MU had mediocre success,but rapidly declined afterwards.with most of the legends collectors dropping it,final nail in the coffin!!!it could not sustain itself at a profitable level with the fanbase it currently has.so why should Hasbro pander to a "handful" of people???

really the only people profiting off MU are customisers and scalpers.notice at last years con how legends have gone full tilt on customising made easy display set up they had?plus all the options and accessories you get with their latest waves?seems they wnt to encourage people to try their hand at customising by providing the pieces neccessary???a very smart move!!!

i agree with you, the MU line has already seen it's golden age along with many other toy lines. And i am not holding my breath during Hasbro's MU 'resting' hiatus. But it's still disappointing for the scale to go dark right before the epic end-stage of this Marvel's cinematic Avengers or frankly the height of superhero popularity as a whole.

If and when the MU returns, these recent MU/MCU/GamerVerse two-packs would be an ideal way to continue the line. Both for corporate profit and consumer cost. While articulation may not be the best, sculpting has improved and price point effective ($20 USD for 2 figures).

Like their Star Wars lines, Hasbro could keep both scales. And i also agree, though it would not surprise me, that they would test the waters for 6" GI Joe line along with the legendary 3.75" scale.

Yet, vehicles and playsets are the true perks to the 3.75" scale. Star Wars and JOE certainly benefit from that. Marvel Universe, not so much. But the interest and fandom is there. Only if Hasbro gives it the effort that Mattel recently did with Jurassic World. Create iconic vehicles like Ghost Rider's bike or iconic buildings (or playset pieces) like the Strange's Sanctum Santorum.

[Prem1x]

Hi, guys. Just doing my daily check-in to see if MU is back yet. Looks like

[LordMudd]

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Originally Posted by Sender

Yet, vehicles and playsets are the true perks to the 3.75" scale. Star Wars and JOE certainly benefit from that. Marvel Universe, not so much. But the interest and fandom is there. Only if Hasbro gives it the effort that Mattel recently did with Jurassic World. Create iconic vehicles like Ghost Rider's bike or iconic buildings (or playset pieces) like the Strange's Sanctum Santorum.

There was the company that tried to resurrect the old Marvel World in this scale, which has been discussed here, but tanked because they tried to start with the Baxter Building, the biggest piece on the board. Now had they started with the smallest piece, Strange's Sanctum, it might have worked, and we would have had a Sanctum playset to go with the movie. We may have never received the Baxter Building just because of its size, but we may have received Parker's Apartment and even the Daily Bugle (which could have doubled for the Daily Planet, thanks to Mattel).


CCC.

[ukmu]

I believe that was ROUND TWO remaking the old Amsco cardboard set from the 70’s.

[Foreddyn]

How long was the Marvel Legends 6" hiatus? I Just say to myself that our scale is just on that. But not really since we do get the Gamerverse. So "limited releases" in my head.

I'd love to get smaller playsets, I don't have much space.

[ukmu]

NYTF 2015 ? Round 2 Video Interview & Walkthrough - Toy Hype USA

There ya go... plus a MU Spider-Man for scale. The rise^^^


Round 2 Cancels Their Marvel Universe 1/18 Scale Cardboard Dioramas - Toy Hype USA

And the fall^^^

[LordMudd]

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Originally Posted by ukmu

NYTF 2015 ? Round 2 Video Interview & Walkthrough - Toy Hype USA

There ya go... plus a MU Spider-Man for scale. The rise^^^


Round 2 Cancels Their Marvel Universe 1/18 Scale Cardboard Dioramas - Toy Hype USA

And the fall^^^

Round 2 has let us know that they were unable to generate retailer support on this such as Toys “R” Us despite them showing interest in it at New York ToyFair 2014 and even stated that a Batcave is also something they would want for their stores.

Oh, gee, I wonder why?

There is at least one company doing a modular playset that can be as big or as small as you want it to be. I think this may be the future of playsets. A generic skyscraper cardboard playset would be great, it could become whatever building you want it to be: Baxter bldg., Four Freedoms Plaza, Daily Bugle, Fisk tower, Daily Planet, Lexcorp Tower. Get more than one and have a downtown street for Spiderman to swing down, and as cardboard playsets, if they are designed right, you can fold them up and put them away to save space.


CCC.

[Super Joe]

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Originally Posted by Il Cattivo

2008 dallas joe convention - never forget!

-dwight

Speaking of Joe, according to Hisstank, its less than a year and a half till the new Snake Eyes movie toys hit retail. Yet how can Snake Eyes 1 the movie NOT become an Iron Man 2 pegwarming action figure line? If the new Bumblebee movie can give more accurate looks from the past, then comic accurate Cobra troop builders, maybe something fandom should demand for the sake of both the film and toy sales.

Next G. I. Joe Movie May Simply Be Titled Snake Eyes - HissTank.com

[En Sabah Nut]

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[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nut

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[Sender]

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Originally Posted by LordMudd

There was the company that tried to resurrect the old Marvel World in this scale, which has been discussed here, but tanked because they tried to start with the Baxter Building, the biggest piece on the board. Now had they started with the smallest piece, Strange's Sanctum, it might have worked, and we would have had a Sanctum playset to go with the movie. We may have never received the Baxter Building just because of its size, but we may have received Parker's Apartment and even the Daily Bugle (which could have doubled for the Daily Planet, thanks to Mattel).


CCC.

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Originally Posted by ukmu

I believe that was ROUND TWO remaking the old Amsco cardboard set from the 70’s.

It's why i brought it up, as Hasbro had recently resurrected their cardboard playsets with the Solo Vandor-1 & re-issuing the Cobra Missle Command.

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Originally Posted by LordMudd

Round 2 has let us know that they were unable to generate retailer support on this such as Toys “R” Us despite them showing interest in it at New York ToyFair 2014 and even stated that a Batcave is also something they would want for their stores.

Oh, gee, I wonder why?

There is at least one company doing a modular playset that can be as big or as small as you want it to be. I think this may be the future of playsets. A generic skyscraper cardboard playset would be great, it could become whatever building you want it to be: Baxter bldg., Four Freedoms Plaza, Daily Bugle, Fisk tower, Daily Planet, Lexcorp Tower. Get more than one and have a downtown street for Spiderman to swing down, and as cardboard playsets, if they are designed right, you can fold them up and put them away to save space.


CCC.

i agree. Independent companies that produce the various modular playsets are a great addition as well as being a popular avenue for future playsets.

While other companies continue to produce scaled buildings like Lanard's The Corps Rock playset or World Peacekeeper's Quonset and new Gate House.

Even smaller accessories & sets like Mattel's recent Jurassic World Lava Surge set, Playmate's previous 3.75" Star Trek movie bridge set, McFarlane's previous Monster series would be a welcomed approach. And as mentioned by fans here, either have the sets come together to make a larger set (helicarrier, sanctorum, baxter, etc..) or as a independent dio (banner's lab, stark's armory, Odin's throne room, etc..) or to even incorporate (small accessories like AIM lab equipment, SHIELD cargo containers, HYDRA rifle-rack, etc..) onto larger platform sets by the other companies.

MU vehicles and playsets have major potential in addition to being an accessible action figure collection.

[Sender]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nut

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WHAAAAT UP, Nut!

[Lionheart]

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Round 2 has let us know that they were unable to generate retailer support on this such as Toys “R” Us despite them showing interest in it at New York ToyFair 2014 and even stated that a Batcave is also something they would want for their stores.

Oh, gee, I wonder why?

Screw the retailers! Toys R Us is dead! DEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAD!!!!

Kickstarter that mo-fo! We NEED a giant 70's Marvel World playset with cardboard tanks for Hulk to SMASH!

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Super Joe

Speaking of Joe, according to Hisstank, its less than a year and a half till the new Snake Eyes movie toys hit retail. Yet how can Snake Eyes 1 the movie NOT become an Iron Man 2 pegwarming action figure line?

Snake Eyes doing as well as Ironman 2 is a good thing actually.
IM2 is considered a successful line that it stayed shipping product all the way until IM3, Out-performing Avengers, and Avengers Assemble both as well as Thor and Captain America. Market statistics-wise it was extremely successful, with numbers that far exceed anyone's expectations on sales data.

The reason IM3 changed the toy dynamic was because Retailers wanted the next big thing, and didn't want IM2 in new packaging. That had more to do with the way blockbuster movie lines work, but for a movie toyline to keep shipping that long after the movie's theater run and home media release is typically unheard of. IM2 is considered one of the bigger successes of the 1:18th figure era runs.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Sender

i agree with you, the MU line has already seen it's golden age along with many other toy lines. And i am not holding my breath during Hasbro's MU 'resting' hiatus. But it's still disappointing for the scale to go dark right before the epic end-stage of this Marvel's cinematic Avengers or frankly the height of superhero popularity as a whole.

If and when the MU returns, these recent MU/MCU/GamerVerse two-packs would be an ideal way to continue the line. Both for corporate profit and consumer cost. While articulation may not be the best, sculpting has improved and price point effective ($20 USD for 2 figures).

Like their Star Wars lines, Hasbro could keep both scales. And i also agree, though it would not surprise me, that they would test the waters for 6" GI Joe line along with the legendary 3.75" scale.

Yet, vehicles and playsets are the true perks to the 3.75" scale. Star Wars and JOE certainly benefit from that. Marvel Universe, not so much. But the interest and fandom is there. Only if Hasbro gives it the effort that Mattel recently did with Jurassic World. Create iconic vehicles like Ghost Rider's bike or iconic buildings (or playset pieces) like the Strange's Sanctum Santorum.

im disappointed too,but i think the warning signs came during some of the Xmen movie releases,we didnt even see any 3.75 tie ins back then and they dropped articulation 5p on the few that did get released.

if it does return then its going to be new bucks,they will have to correct scale many figures like Hulk,spidey,wolverine.personally i think they could have more fun with the scale,incorporating 6" BAFs into waves,playsets and vehicles like you said and i posted about this in the past.but now we come to the elephant in the room,pricing,even at 20 per 2 figs people are still complaining and stifling the spread of product by not helping the community without making a profit.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Snake Eyes doing as well as Ironman 2 is a good thing actually.
IM2 is considered a successful line that it stayed shipping product all the way until IM3, Out-performing Avengers, and Avengers Assemble both as well as Thor and Captain America. Market statistics-wise it was extremely successful, with numbers that far exceed anyone's expectations on sales data.

The reason IM3 changed the toy dynamic was because Retailers wanted the next big thing, and didn't want IM2 in new packaging. That had more to do with the way blockbuster movie lines work, but for a movie toyline to keep shipping that long after the movie's theater run and home media release is typically unheard of. IM2 is considered one of the bigger successes of the 1:18th figure era runs.

yeah so can you provide these sales numbers and data???
IM3 changed the toy dynamic???please be more specific.
as far as it went in my city,these IM2 figures did NOT sell at 9.99 and ended up in the bargain bin for 50 cent each along with thor and cap figures costing slightly more 1 dollar because the movies were the more recently released of the 3.one year later the same chain of stores dropped MU.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by Jackieboy

im disappointed too,but i think the warning signs came during some of the Xmen movie releases,we didnt even see any 3.75 tie ins back then and they dropped articulation 5p on the few that did get released.

if it does return then its going to be new bucks,they will have to correct scale many figures like Hulk,spidey,wolverine.personally i think they could have more fun with the scale,incorporating 6" BAFs into waves,playsets and vehicles like you said and i posted about this in the past.but now we come to the elephant in the room,pricing,even at 20 per 2 figs people are still complaining and stifling the spread of product by not helping the community without making a profit.

The X-Men TAS was released at the Same time as MU started. The animateds for it and Ironman Armored Adventures were created for a different kind of market. The growth of the Marvel 1:18th boom didn't happen until after those toon lines ended.

As for X-Men movie releases, that had more to do with how XMO:Wolverine's line didn't exactly do that well. Which IM2 proved the market strength was still holding, though becoming a bit over-saturated.

The shift out of 3.75 has other factors associated due to the market and other areas, as well as rising costs and retailers wanting something more budget friendly. Then other hiccups set things back as well. Like various backlogs of material and certain audience areas.

The market shift to bring it back is determined by wide factors, but for right now, market strength is in flux. Let's wait and see what happens with upcoming market shifts first before ringing the death bells.

But do have to say the more various areas 'mistreat' Hasbro employees over it, the harder it will be to bring it back. If audience areas act like spoiled children throwing tantrums or act like bullies, it's not an audience area Hasbro will want to feed nor retailers will want in their stores.

Given time though, especially with upcoming movies needing newer product and more product variety, we might see some interesting changes in the movies yet to come. Especially considering we have GI Joe material coming up, and a Black Panther sequel as well.

[Harbinger]

I feel that if they stopped making all the useless crap that clogs pegs ( the 5 poa crap, the rollay stuff etc ) they would have the budget to produce mu and 4inch movie related articulated figs. And not to charge over 8 bucks for em either.

[Jackieboy]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

The X-Men TAS was released at the Same time as MU started. The animateds for it and Ironman Armored Adventures were created for a different kind of market. The growth of the Marvel 1:18th boom didn't happen until after those toon lines ended.

As for X-Men movie releases, that had more to do with how XMO:Wolverine's line didn't exactly do that well. Which IM2 proved the market strength was still holding, though becoming a bit over-saturated.

The shift out of 3.75 has other factors associated due to the market and other areas, as well as rising costs and retailers wanting something more budget friendly. Then other hiccups set things back as well. Like various backlogs of material and certain audience areas.

The market shift to bring it back is determined by wide factors, but for right now, market strength is in flux. Let's wait and see what happens with upcoming market shifts first before ringing the death bells.

But do have to say the more various areas 'mistreat' Hasbro employees over it, the harder it will be to bring it back. If audience areas act like spoiled children throwing tantrums or act like bullies, it's not an audience area Hasbro will want to feed nor retailers will want in their stores.

Given time though, especially with upcoming movies needing newer product and more product variety, we might see some interesting changes in the movies yet to come. Especially considering we have GI Joe material coming up, and a Black Panther sequel as well.

bro,i honestly read none of the above,sorry!

[kylactus]

My assessment of the situation is this.... your all right. I believe MU did well, especially when ML died. I know there were a whole litany of factors back in 08 driving the switch to 3.75, global economy, hasbros shitty first try with legends, and others, but to say the line was not popular or didn’t do well is absurd. It lasted for ten damn years! And for several of those was the flagship line for marvel! Over time I’ve assessed the fall of the line and I believe I’ve identified three big factors... 1. Movie figures. Hasbro has come a long way on the sculpts of the movie legends, especially with the face print tech, the fact is the detail of some of the legends sculpts, especially when trying to replicate a real human face are just impossible in 3.75 scale. Sucks balls, but it’s true. people want movie figures that look spot on.
2. The death of large scale play sets/vehicles. I love playsets and vehicles in our scale, it was the driving force behind gi joe, and many other lines from the 80’s. But, for some reason consumers just don’t buy them up any more. Every major brand vehicle or play set ends up on clearance, and we all know it! That’s why we wait them out. Last years batman v Superman bat cave was packing shelves at Walmart for 15$ and I think it’s MSRP was like 89. I think eventualities like this lead to retailers just not ordering them... why put out what amounts to 60 dollars worth of merch out and take up a whole shelf when you get the same profit from 4 legends figs. Our scale was designed for vehicles, Vonner wanted to do vehicles. The life blood of of our scale just never happened.. ands even when they tried Masterworks they ended up at Ross for 10$ .
3. Dwight... #fuckdwight nuff said.

[DerStahlhelm]

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Originally Posted by kylactus

My assessment of the situation is this.... your all right. I believe MU did well, especially when ML died. I know there were a whole litany of factors back in 08 driving the switch to 3.75, global economy, hasbros shitty first try with legends, and others, but to say the line was not popular or didn’t do well is absurd. It lasted for ten damn years! And for several of those was the flagship line for marvel! Over time I’ve assessed the fall of the line and I believe I’ve identified three big factors... 1. Movie figures. Hasbro has come a long way on the sculpts of the movie legends, especially with the face print tech, the fact is the detail of some of the legends sculpts, especially when trying to replicate a real human face are just impossible in 3.75 scale. Sucks balls, but it’s true. people want movie figures that look spot on.
2. The death of large scale play sets/vehicles. I love playsets and vehicles in our scale, it was the driving force behind gi joe, and many other lines from the 80’s. But, for some reason consumers just don’t buy them up any more. Every major brand vehicle or play set ends up on clearance, and we all know it! That’s why we wait them out. Last years batman v Superman bat cave was packing shelves at Walmart for 15$ and I think it’s MSRP was like 89. I think eventualities like this lead to retailers just not ordering them... why put out what amounts to 60 dollars worth of merch out and take up a whole shelf when you get the same profit from 4 legends figs. Our scale was designed for vehicles, Vonner wanted to do vehicles. The life blood of of our scale just never happened.. ands even when they tried Masterworks they ended up at Ross for 10$ .
3. Dwight... #fuckdwight nuff said.

It’s perfectly possible to do facial sculpts at 4” with the same level of detail as the 6” figures, especially with the shift to digital sculpting where it’s just a matter of resizing a 3D model.
Don’t believe me? Have a look at any of the amazing hydro-shrunk head casts offered by many casters.