[trebleshot]

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Originally Posted by MADREVJACK

I always thought it was a shame they killed abomination like that, he went out like a bitch. He deserved better.

Agreed, especially given his extensive history at Marvel. He was created by Stan Lee and Gil Kane in 1967, for crying out loud.

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What the hell were they thinking having red hulk punch a watcher, just seems silly. Are watchers even tangible?

Oh yes, they're quite tangible. The issue is Uatu is a nosy little prick who doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "impartial observer".

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Originally Posted by rwsharpjr

Yup, plus the descriptor "Marvel's Abominations" clinches it.
Same as Cloak/Dagger.
Looks like they are going to be "running changes" along the lines of the ML ones.
Hope the distribution is better on them, though.

Sometimes I hate being right.

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Originally Posted by PROVOST

Thanos as a Timelord is a frightening thought.

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Originally Posted by Andy Carruthers

Thanks for the infor trebleshot, most appreciated.

No problem.

[MADREVJACK]

Yeah, Thanos would have been a better "the Master " for Dave Tenant to battle.
Daleks look like rolling toasters compared to the mad god/ last time lord.

[spade]

Hmm... Converting Marvel Universe to an Avengers line

Pro
1. Maybe Walmart in my city will carry the figures now.

The biggest questions are:

Will we see characters who aren't in the Avengers or their direct villains?

AND

Will they re-release the same Avengers characters from the movie in mass that will choke the line or will there be mixture like the Marvel Universe.

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by rwsharpjr

Yup, plus the descriptor "Marvel's Abominations" clinches it.
Same as Cloak/Dagger.
Looks like they are going to be "running changes" along the lines of the ML ones.
Hope the distribution is better on them, though.

Dang that's just as bad as Variants sigh...the fact that the ML's do that and we barely see them ugh.

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

Marvelousnews.com is reporting that Marvel Universe is dead, rechristened as Avengers. I dont know if this will change the character selection or not, but its supposed to be the same style, and ment to make retailers pick them up. I'm not as pleased with this, because again, I dont know if we'll get more new characters or end up with the same avengers over and over.
2013 SDCC Marvel Universe & Legends News & Images - 2013_San_Diego_Comic_Con - MarvelousNews.com

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Originally Posted by skywarrped

Thanks for the update. I'm definitely not happy that the line is ending or switching names as it were, but I am happy that the figures will continue. All I can do is stay positive and hope that we'll continue to get new characters from throughout the Marvel U and not just Avengers-centric characters.

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Originally Posted by spade

Hmm... Converting Marvel Universe to an Avengers line

Pro
1. Maybe Walmart in my city will carry the figures now.

The biggest questions are:

Will we see characters who aren't in the Avengers or their direct villains?

AND

Will they re-release the same Avengers characters from the movie in mass that will choke the line or will there be mixture like the Marvel Universe.

Agree with everyone else, not happy, but let's see how they roll them out...I may stop collecting if they look like crap and just leave it at MU. Which in a way may be a good thing for my wallet:P

[Nexodusrex]

I got more word from cooltoyreviews forums
Marvel Universe - Page 1282
The Avengers line will ONLY be Avengers themed Characters starting in 2014, and then the second year will ONLY be x-men themed characters for 2015.
The final MU Wave is Aurora, Northstar, Black Knight, Omega Red, and X-Force Nightcrawler.
I'm not a fan of the themed thing, but if they give us all new characters, and atleast 5-6 waves, AND they give us Captain Marvel in wave 1, I will not complain.

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I got more word from cooltoyreviews forums
Marvel Universe - Page 1282
The Avengers line will ONLY be Avengers themed Characters starting in 2014, and then the second year will ONLY be x-men themed characters for 2015.
The final MU Wave is Aurora, Northstar, Black Knight, Omega Red, and X-Force Nightcrawler.
I'm not a fan of the themed thing, but if they give us all new characters, and atleast 5-6 waves, AND they give us Captain Marvel in wave 1, I will not complain.

Cool, my wallet will have great peace for a year then regarding Marvel, and when the X-Men stuff it'll depend if I have that character or not, and yeah I'll pick up the final theme for sure!

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I got more word from cooltoyreviews forums
Marvel Universe - Page 1282
The Avengers line will ONLY be Avengers themed Characters starting in 2014, and then the second year will ONLY be x-men themed characters for 2015.
The final MU Wave is Aurora, Northstar, Black Knight, Omega Red, and X-Force Nightcrawler.
I'm not a fan of the themed thing, but if they give us all new characters, and atleast 5-6 waves, AND they give us Captain Marvel in wave 1, I will not complain.

At least the final is a good one. Nothing from my top 10 but Black Knight, Omega Red are both top 25 most wanted and Aurora and Northstar were close to that.

All I can say is Wasp better **** well be in that first wave under the Avengers rebrand. That and poor Polaris, shafted again.

Actually one more thing to add. it's odd that X-Men will be the 2015 releases considering that Avengers 2 will be out. But oh wait, Avengers 2 will also have its own toyline I'm sure.

[cellardoor]

I love watching people knee jerk react to the steady dribble of info from sdcc.
The re-brand of MU means one thing is for certain...all those MOC collectors are going to get shafted by ebay and re-sellers as a cancelled line immediately spikes the collectibilty. Had a hope of ever getting that MOC solid Vision? Consider it driven back into the mud. It also pains me to see the paucity of imagination amongst comic book fans, an Avengers-themed line-up is pretty dang expansive considering practically every hero has been an Avenger and almost all villains have clashed with them at some point. The X-Men themed year also sounds fantastic, sure, you'll get a Wolverine and a Cyclops in there but imagine how many other X-men there are. Also that confirms they'll be producing 3.75" figs until 2015 at least. What's not to like?

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by cellardoor

I love watching people knee jerk react to the steady dribble of info from sdcc.
The re-brand of MU means one thing is for certain...all those MOC collectors are going to get shafted by ebay and re-sellers as a cancelled line immediately spikes the collectibilty. Had a hope of ever getting that MOC solid Vision? Consider it driven back into the mud. It also pains me to see the paucity of imagination amongst comic book fans, an Avengers-themed line-up is pretty dang expansive considering practically every hero has been an Avenger and almost all villains have clashed with them at some point. The X-Men themed year also sounds fantastic, sure, you'll get a Wolverine and a Cyclops in there but imagine how many other X-men there are. Also that confirms they'll be producing 3.75" figs until 2015 at least. What's not to like?

But for those that most of the MU figures already and the rare ones brings a smile to us I guess haha:P

[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by cellardoor

I love watching people knee jerk react to the steady dribble of info from sdcc.
The re-brand of MU means one thing is for certain...all those MOC collectors are going to get shafted by ebay and re-sellers as a cancelled line immediately spikes the collectibilty. Had a hope of ever getting that MOC solid Vision? Consider it driven back into the mud. It also pains me to see the paucity of imagination amongst comic book fans, an Avengers-themed line-up is pretty dang expansive considering practically every hero has been an Avenger and almost all villains have clashed with them at some point. The X-Men themed year also sounds fantastic, sure, you'll get a Wolverine and a Cyclops in there but imagine how many other X-men there are. Also that confirms they'll be producing 3.75" figs until 2015 at least. What's not to like?

I think it is funny that you would assume they will use the extensive library to make new Avengers related figures instead of giving us more of characters we already own. Because it's Avengers they will be forced to make more Thor, Cap, Iron Man and the rest. What are the chances of even half the figures being new characters? Not good. What about the fact that they said MU and Avengers Assemble would be rolled into this new line? There goes some spots to less articulated cartoon based stuff. By the end of the year we may be lucky to get 3 or 4 new figures. Since they haven't shown us anything good post Vonner or given us reason to assume this new stuff will be figures we actually want to buy I'm not going to be optimistic first. Anyone that isn't very worried is just trying to trick themselves into believing it's going to be awesome with nothing to back it up. I say this as a guy that has always been positive in past when they weren't showing us stuff or revealed figured never got release dates. It is clear they didn't want to show us where the line was going. Maybe they knew we wouldn't like it.

[mindmeldx]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I got more word from cooltoyreviews forums
Marvel Universe - Page 1282
The Avengers line will ONLY be Avengers themed Characters starting in 2014, and then the second year will ONLY be x-men themed characters for 2015.
The final MU Wave is Aurora, Northstar, Black Knight, Omega Red, and X-Force Nightcrawler.
I'm not a fan of the themed thing, but if they give us all new characters, and atleast 5-6 waves, AND they give us Captain Marvel in wave 1, I will not complain.

You would think they would be switched with Avengers in 2015 and X-men next year. Ah well...Thanks for the info!

[Prem1x]

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Originally Posted by mindmeldx

You would think they would be switched with Avengers in 2015 and X-men next year. Ah well...Thanks for the info!

This would make more sense. Hasbro still can't get their always-one-year-behind monkey off their back.

[spade]

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Originally Posted by cellardoor

I love watching people knee jerk react to the steady dribble of info from sdcc.
The re-brand of MU means one thing is for certain...all those MOC collectors are going to get shafted by ebay and re-sellers as a cancelled line immediately spikes the collectibilty. Had a hope of ever getting that MOC solid Vision? Consider it driven back into the mud. It also pains me to see the paucity of imagination amongst comic book fans, an Avengers-themed line-up is pretty dang expansive considering practically every hero has been an Avenger and almost all villains have clashed with them at some point.

In one year how many figures do you think they will make? It's highly unlikely that every remaining Avenger, support staff, and their enemies.

Plus you have to assume Cap, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Wolverine, and Spider-man will take up a lot of the slots.

[rwsharpjr]

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Originally Posted by mindmeldx

You would think they would be switched with Avengers in 2015 and X-men next year. Ah well...Thanks for the info!

The only way it makes sense to me is if there is a concurrent movie line running alongside this one for each movie.
The problem with that would be further retailer confusion over the lines, and/or hesitance to carry the xmen line if they have leftover stock of the xmen movie line.

[cellardoor]

It's almost like they'll have to sell toys to kids or something crazy to make money, rather than satiate a few die-hard collectors that really, really want their baffling and niche figures. We are not the intended audience for the future of small-scale figures but we're far from getting effed in the A. Marvel movies are here to stay and the more Thor, Cap and Iron Man they can sell the greater the chances of them paying lip service to we the few, the hardcore. I don't see the sense in calling conspiracy though. Didn't Legends seemingly die a death only to burst resplendent back into the hearts and minds of collectors? That Thunderbolt's set is brilliant and i'd love to see an MU version but it's ultimately about sales and profit. Our little plastic obsession is subject to the whims of capitalism so take what you can. The line could be dead in totality, although many of you are already grieving.

[spade]

You make a post like this after talking about people have no imagination and how can we doubt they won't pull from their library. You just stated the point everybody is making. Nobody is calling conspiracy. They are being realistic on the prospect of what's to come.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by spade

In one year how many figures do you think they will make? It's highly unlikely that every remaining Avenger, support staff, and their enemies.

Plus you have to assume Cap, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Wolverine, and Spider-man will take up a lot of the slots.

This is my fear and worry. If they release let's say 26 figures per year, my optimism mixed with some sense of realism would be that the core 8 (those above) would be released once a year, with 8 repaints of other characters once a year, leaving room for 10 new figures. That's optimistic.

What I really fear is going to happen? It's going to be more like 16 of the character slots will be taken up by the core 8, and likely 8 repaints, leaving room for two brand new figures each year.

There's some realism to that.

Ugh. Looks like I'll likely be saving some money after this year. Or giving it to customizers.

[bitman2]

The writing has been on the wall since Vonner left,Hasbro is just now putting out the final figures that Vonner had in the pipeline.Hope the Avengers line turns out to be more along the line of MU and not the current Wolverine , IM 3 waste of Plastic. I dont know why Hasbro just doesnt do a Collectors line that caters to Collectors only, They could distribute them through Hasbro Toy Shop or through specialty stores(ex. BBTS) they could release them with a limited run with a price point probably abt $20.00
Could maybe do 1 a month. Would be willing to bet would do REALLY WELL.

[Captain Nash]

I'd be okay with a collector's line, at $20 or even $25 per figure one per month, either as a buy as you go or a subscription, provided that if it were a subscription there were no repaints or repeats on existing figures.

I know I don't post often on here, usually only around SDCC or NYTF, but I've been a huge figure collector of Marvel, GIJOE and Star Wars both as a kids and for the last 15 years of my adult life. Having watching SW and GIJOE basically go belly up as far as collecting goes, I've held on to hoping that MU and ML would continue to flesh out my collection, even if I had to order everything online (which has pretty much been the case for the last year or two for MU anyways.)

Hearing this news really breaks a collectors heart.

Sorry, gotta go search for some good customizers now....

[tk421]

Look what my buddy picked up for me today

[Andy Carruthers]

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Originally Posted by tk421

Look what my buddy picked up for me today

Awesome dude, congrats.

[perrych]

Here is what I don't get: even with the mentioned issues - distribution, figures not selling, etc - this line seems to be VERY successful for its modest run. Even peg warmers sell through eventually. Ironically, the Avengers line was the one that didn't sell! Spider-Man movie figures don't sell. Im3 don't sell. MU seems to outsell these lines ( at least the single figures do) EXCEPT when these lines venture out of the movie characters and do comic inspired figures.

[Ninjinister]

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Originally Posted by Nexodusrex

I got more word from cooltoyreviews forums
Marvel Universe - Page 1282
The Avengers line will ONLY be Avengers themed Characters starting in 2014, and then the second year will ONLY be x-men themed characters for 2015.
The final MU Wave is Aurora, Northstar, Black Knight, Omega Red, and X-Force Nightcrawler.
I'm not a fan of the themed thing, but if they give us all new characters, and atleast 5-6 waves, AND they give us Captain Marvel in wave 1, I will not complain.

So no Frog Thor?

I wanted to complete my Pet Avengers :|

[Andy Carruthers]

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

So no Frog Thor?

I wanted to complete my Pet Avengers :|

Pet Avengers? I remember Frog Thor but I'm puzzled as to others?

[cellardoor]

Good point, it's like we're all just nerds talking shit on the internet without any real information to go on...yet.
All I know is I love toys and Marvel comics so as long as I can put little plastic guys on a shelf i'm happy. If that's a hundred Wolverine's then cool, if they look good and connect me to the art of comic-book story telling then i'm happy.
I can't say I know anything about this Vonner guy or what the distribution issues are in the US. I live in the UK so get a little tired of hearing people lamenting how they can only find certain figures from recent waves when Brits are lucky to even see the MU figures in the wild.
Sorely tempted to chew the head off my solid Vision and give my deathmask Archangel to a five-year old just to make a point. They're toys. If the line dies or evolves into something else then so be it, it's not sad or heart-breaking in the grand scheme.
It's more exciting to me that Hasbro have attempted to push the line out to a wider audience. As someone that loves toys I can't lament more toys coming out.
The thing that amuses me and perturbs me is the sense of entitlement people have regarding what companies should be doing for them. You could get a line of core Avengers over and over or you could have a range of core characters and collector focused characters AS WELL. Just be happy you have the luxury to be concerned over this utterly pointless argument rather than something that actually means something.
Geeks, I love ya and hate ya in equal measures!