[ProfessorHov]

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Originally Posted by bitman2

Just curious , how many people will pay 39.00 for the wasp. Honest answers please.

Hit hasn't even hit retail at most yet. The prices will drop once more is out there to sell but no way I'm paying 39.00 for something I almaot got for 10 bucks on amazon

[cidman911]

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Originally Posted by bitman2

Just curious , how many people will pay 39.00 for the wasp. Honest answers please.

If Hulk was the short packed fig I'd feel horrible paying $20 on eBay. Nevermind $40. Freak that.

[MGTAJ]

Friendly reminder that most scalpers are just fellow collectors

[Primacron]

The entire wave of Avengers Infinite is 90USD on BBTS, the figures that aren't Wasp can be bought individually for a combined price of 51USD, so they are effectively selling Wasp for 39USD.

[ProfessorHov]

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Originally Posted by MGTAJ

Friendly reminder that most scalpers are just fellow collectors

Yup I love when you want to trade and they go well market price is 40 it's an unfair trade lol

[ukmu]

I have paid $72 for a Maria Hill... then 6 days later got a boxed Super Helicarrier for less than $20, complete with a second Hill....

So if she was my prise... then maybe. I think she will be going for much more in 3 years time.

I don't live where they are available at.retail. So a tenner for any figure is out the window in my book. I also understand collectables and supply and demand. If you want it bad enough, you will pay it usually. I was able to pre-order 2 Wasp figures though.

All that said..... what would you feel if by next year she went for $60 plus regularly. Would you feel bad you missed the forty dollar boat?

I fear since she is in high demand and short packed her resale value will continue to be high. Is forty too high? Can you find one in the wild? Will it double in time? Will the Chinese be selling her for $15.81 with free shipping by summer? Who can say....

And why don't we have Ant-Man is a better question.

[MGTAJ]

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Originally Posted by ukmu

I have paid $72 for a Maria Hill... then 6 days later got a boxed Super Helicarrier for less than $20, complete with a second Hill....

So if she was my prise... then maybe. I think she will be going much more on 3 years time.

I don't live where they are available at.retail. So a tenner for any figure is out the window in my book. I also understand collectables and supply and demand. If you want it bad enough, you will pay it usually. I was able to pre-order 2 Wasp figures though.

Most I've ever paid for a single figure was 20 dollars. What you think it'll be going for in 3 years shouldn't determine the price you pay. This isn't the stock market.

[Iceman]

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Originally Posted by bitman2

Just curious , how many people will pay 39.00 for the wasp. Honest answers please.

This line is brand new and has just started shipping so anyone paying that price for Wasp simply wants to have it now. I have confidence I will find her at retail and that just about anyone that wants her will. Don't forget that since this is a new line there will be revision cases and we may get Wasp in team packs or two packs, if those ever come back, and one day may be may be complaining that she's everywhere. Me, I'm content to wait.

[kylactus]

I'll wait and find her in the wild, that said I remember a time when you could get a boat load of visions for 30 bucks all day long on Ebay, so in a way it is a little like the stock market, if you don't think it is ask anyone who owned a comic shop in the 90's

[ProfessorHov]

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Originally Posted by kylactus

I'll wait and find her in the wild, that said I remember a time when you could get a boat load of visions for 30 bucks all day long on Ebay, so in a way it is a little like the stock market, if you don't think it is ask anyone who owned a comic shop in the 90's

I've always wondered what happend in the 90s to comics and comic shops all I know is 90's comics aren't really worth anything unless it's like a first appearance

[fosterlager]

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Originally Posted by bitman2

Just curious , how many people will pay 39.00 for the wasp. Honest answers please.

I'll never pay over retail for something from a line's first wave.

[samsson37]

So true...that being said I did grab Hyperion( just like the collector in china said, you will have to glue his cape on it doesn't stay in the holes on his back very well) and the Grim Reaper (sweet fig) for like $15 a shot.Ill most likely grab the hulk and see what happens with the Wasp....its funny as a character she's annoying as hell, but the Avengers look a bit weird without her, Vision and Pym in the lineup.....still aint paying $40 lmao

[Kernel]

My cap is gonna be $19 for wasp. The target I go to most charges $13 after taxes, so I figure $6 for shipping is reasonable, these things go fast in my area like gone within hours or minutes (hot wheels guys and other collectors?) so I could even argue it would save me money on gas/time. It is odd to see some of these figures are worth more than their weight in gold. I can't imagine Hyperion, hulk, or reaper being too hard to find so I'll try and grab those at retail.

[kylactus]

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Originally Posted by ProfessorHov

I've always wondered what happend in the 90s to comics and comic shops all I know is 90's comics aren't really worth anything unless it's like a first appearance

Comics started getting a lot of attention from legitimate long term investors, this resulted in everyone and there brother buying comics as an investment figuring that if the 1963 xmen #1 is worth 30,000$ then logically the 1991 xmen #1 will do the same by say 2018... the problem is that the comic companies produced for the false demand of hoarders and stockpilers who had no real interest in the product (aside from an investment). I understand something like a million copies of 1991 Xmen #1 were sold, when marvel knew they had about 30,000 readers. It was a bubble like computer stocks, housing, and gold. at some point everyone looked around and said "what are these really worth?" and the bottom fell out.

[wylde bil]

most i paid for a 3.75 fig is $30 i did it twice bag head and lady deadpool, i have paid $20 or over about 10 other times ( deadpool X2, venom X2 (different ones), carnage, hydra soldier, magneto (2pack), flamed human torch, radioactive man, sabertooth)

not counting my sentinels ($40 (purple & silver) and $60 (BAF)or my galactus $50

[wylde bil]

i always seem to spend the most on 1 of my favorite characters (deadpool, cause doom was pretty cheap/i found him alot) and villains.

bad guys are some of the most expensive because A. they dont make alot of them and B. because when they do they dont make them prevalent in the case pack.

[Specter]

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Originally Posted by bitman2

Just curious , how many people will pay 39.00 for the wasp. Honest answers please.

For Wasp?
I will if I absolutely can't find her anywhere else after a month.
She is one of my absolute favorite Marvel characters.

Only MU figures I would pay over $20+ for are: Wasp, 90's Rogue and Maria Hill.

[Snowflakian]

I'm really hoping they come back around with 3 pack exclusives again. Thunderbolts with a red agent venom, red punisher, and elektra would rock. As would an Avengers pack of the unreleased ant-man, the new wasp, and maybe an Ultron. The emma/cyclops/colossus 3 pack needs to find a release too. T_T May as well do two 3 packs for the All-New X-Men with their new costumes too. Cyclops, Angel, and X-23 in one, with Beast(human), Jean and Marvel Now!/Post-AvX Cyclops in the other. (It'd make for an interesting release during GOTG on DVD, which is right around when the crossover trade will hit bookstores too.) While at it, appease the Alpha Flight fans with a 3 pack of Northstar, Aurora, and Vindicator (or Puck or Sasquatch, or Guardian). These packs would fill a lot of holes, and are all figures that'd fly off the shelf.

I'm hoping a lot of missed will show up through Marvel Infinite over time. So far looks like anything that wasn't used over there will be showing up in these first couple waves of it. Though that does mean long waits again for rarer characters to be filtered back in. =(

I hope this means we aren't far off from cinema merged lines. There have been some rares and others scattered across them I wouldn't mind getting another shot at getting for MSRP.

[kostej]

Just to put the things into perspective a little, here is the answer from Impulse Creations I am allowed to post here:
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As for the price itself, unfortunately, this is becoming something of a trend with Hasbro of late as they are making the most wanted figures extremely limited which forces retailers to order huge numbers of unwanted figures.

Unlike some other manufacturers, Hasbro does not allow retailers to order full cases of single figures. They only produce case assortments and there is only one Wasp in each case of 12 from this assortment while 5 of the 12 figures are re-releases which no one wants.

We had nearly 400 reserve account requests for Wasp and 78 requests for all of the other figures combined. That means we have to pay for well over 4000 unwanted figures just to get the needed number of Wasp figures. While some of those extra figures will sell to non-reserve account customers, the vast majority will not. A portion of that cost has to be passed on in the price for Wasp but it would have to be over $100 each to make up our actual cost.

This is a widespread issue though affecting all retailers which is why a quick web search shows that ToyWiz has it for $44.99, CMDStore has it for $59.95, and Toys On Fire has it for $64.95. Those are just the first three I found on Google (excluding eBay sellers) and our price (which we realize is high) remains one of the lowest around.

With manufacturers like Mattel and DC Direct who do offer full cases of single figures, high prices for high demand figures don't happen but Hasbro seems to feel that making these figures scarce will somehow benefit them. Our concern is that the opposite will happen and customers will decide to drop Hasbro figures completely.

I sincerely wish that we could offer Wasp at a lower price but I'm afraid it just isn't possible under these circumstances.

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To be honest, if Hasbro continues like this much longer we may simply stop carrying their products completely as we're already losing money on these assortments and still incurring ill will nonetheless.
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[cidman911]

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Originally Posted by kostej

Just to put the things into perspective a little, here is the answer from Impulse Creations I am allowed to post here:
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As for the price itself, unfortunately, this is becoming something of a trend with Hasbro of late as they are making the most wanted figures extremely limited which forces retailers to order huge numbers of unwanted figures.

Unlike some other manufacturers, Hasbro does not allow retailers to order full cases of single figures. They only produce case assortments and there is only one Wasp in each case of 12 from this assortment while 5 of the 12 figures are re-releases which no one wants.

We had nearly 400 reserve account requests for Wasp and 78 requests for all of the other figures combined. That means we have to pay for well over 4000 unwanted figures just to get the needed number of Wasp figures. While some of those extra figures will sell to non-reserve account customers, the vast majority will not. A portion of that cost has to be passed on in the price for Wasp but it would have to be over $100 each to make up our actual cost.

This is a widespread issue though affecting all retailers which is why a quick web search shows that ToyWiz has it for $44.99, CMDStore has it for $59.95, and Toys On Fire has it for $64.95. Those are just the first three I found on Google (excluding eBay sellers) and our price (which we realize is high) remains one of the lowest around.

With manufacturers like Mattel and DC Direct who do offer full cases of single figures, high prices for high demand figures don't happen but Hasbro seems to feel that making these figures scarce will somehow benefit them. Our concern is that the opposite will happen and customers will decide to drop Hasbro figures completely.

I sincerely wish that we could offer Wasp at a lower price but I'm afraid it just isn't possible under these circumstances.

...

To be honest, if Hasbro continues like this much longer we may simply stop carrying their products completely as we're already losing money on these assortments and still incurring ill will nonetheless.
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SHEESH !!!

Seems like this isn't going to get better any time soon without us speaking up to Hasbro.

[ProfessorHov]

Basically Hasbro does not care and they are doing this on purpose to sell more cases. They are greedy bunch of hacks. I don't see them changing this. Only if people stop buying which won't happen.

[zim]

we should all complain via customer service. I was told that they pay attention if a lot of people complain. First complaint, there should never be less than 2 of any new figure. All of you headed to sdcc should also line up to talk the MI product manger and complain about this one to a case thing and several old figs that retailers can't sell so that raises the price of the figures. Post his or her email address here and we can all jump in and email him/her

[Specter]

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Originally Posted by ProfessorHov

Basically Hasbro does not care and they are doing this on purpose to sell more cases. They are greedy bunch of hacks. I don't see them changing this. Only if people stop buying which won't happen.

It doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah for places like Walmart, etc who don't even know the difference and are probably happy to see a new Cap or Iron Man its fine.
But for more collector oriented places they should offer cases of select characters.

Kids are likely to go into a TRU or such see a rerelease and buy on impulse. nobody is going to be jumping on BBTS and such and buy a specific rerelease years later when there is probably 50 other Iron Mans and Caps all hanging around that site and stores as well.

If that $40 for a Wasp was going directly to Hasbro it would be somewhat understandable

[ProfessorHov]

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Originally Posted by Specter

It doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah for places like Walmart, etc who don't even know the difference and are probably happy to see a new Cap or Iron Man its fine.
But for more collector oriented places they should offer cases of select characters.

Kids are likely to go into a TRU or such see a rerelease and buy on impulse. nobody is going to be jumping on BBTS and such and buy a specific rerelease years later when there is probably 50 other Iron Mans and Caps all hanging around that site and stores as well.

If that $40 for a Wasp was going directly to Hasbro it would be somewhat understandable

It's not the 40 for wasp it's all the cases other retailers have to buy to get a bunch of wasps and so on. I think many people do complain to hasblow, and I don't think it helps. Last year at comic on everyone I talked to at hasblow knew nothing

[Specter]

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Originally Posted by ProfessorHov

It's not the 40 for wasp it's all the cases other retailers have to buy to get a bunch of wasps and so on. I think many people do complain to hasblow, and I don't think it helps. Last year at comic on everyone I talked to at hasblow knew nothing

I know I just think its stupid that sites that sell to collectors can't ask for the specific characters to cover the demand.
What incentive do they have to carry any future figures if they have to scramble like this to avoid losing money on alot of the others?

If Hasbro really wanted to sell more cases couldn't they just do special cases for online retailers that replaces the double, and triple packed characters(which are already less sought-after online in this instance)with just slightly rarer older figures.
How would that hurt Hasbro?
I understand if Cap and Iron Man were first runs on the mold that they would want every penny out of it but they have already been done.