[Jay West]

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Originally Posted by Kamatayan

So, does anyone want to talk about the whole Captain America being Hydra the whole time thing? I don't know why everyone is exploding over it. It's obviously a fluke.

Two things

1. Cap fans just put up with the whole shocking new status quo with Steve being aged to an old man. Fans were pretty excited for what Marvel had teased as Classic Cap. So this "startling" new status quo seems like bait and switch.

2. Marvel is selling this in the media as Cap has really joined Hydra because of the political atmosphere in the country or maybe he always was a Hydra agent depends on the articlde. Uh and Punisher is an Angel, Doc Ock is permanently Superior Spider Man, Tony Stark is a teenager, Jim Gordon is Batman etc etc. Fans aren't appreciating Marvels attempt at selling this as legit when everyone knows it is not really a super hero created by two Jewish men becoming a Nazi.

[snake5289]

I thought Falcon being called Captain America was bad but this is just ****ing stupid any way you slice it.

[Kernel]

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Originally Posted by Sithlord1963

IIRC I've got 15-20 Dark Elves and customised two to represent Malekith (have both versions of the Malekith head which I collaborated with Vortious on)and pre mutated Kurse using the GI Joe HD head (same actor). Malekith has MCU 'accurate' armour. Will try and dig them out over the weekend and take pics!

Wow I'd like to see those. Like I said I'm kind of a lazy kit basher so I don't mind malekiths armor not being 100% accurate for mine.

As for cap, he's spent 75 years or so fighting hydra...if you can't beat em.... Hail hydra.

[MUfan97]

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Originally Posted by Kamatayan

So, does anyone want to talk about the whole Captain America being Hydra the whole time thing? I don't know why everyone is exploding over it. It's obviously a fluke.

I don't care if it's a fluke. To me, Captain America is, and always will be, Captain AMERICA. Representing the best of what my country has to offer. If Marvel feels like screwing around with that, I don't care. EMH is my favorite Avengers incarnation anyway.

[MUfan97]

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Originally Posted by snake5289

I thought Falcon being called Captain America was bad but this is just ****ing stupid any way you slice it.

What's wrong with Falcon Cap? Falcon was actually Cap's partner at one point, so why shouldn't he carry the shield?

[snake5289]

Because Steve Rodgers is Captain America. Just like Peter Parker is Spider-man, Logan/Weapon X is Wolverine, and Thor Odinson is Thor.

Anyone else going by those names is either pretending until they bring back the real character or from a different Earth.

[slim19722]

Gamora wave is up on the TRU website.

Toys''R''Us

[LordMudd]

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Originally Posted by MUfan97

What's wrong with Falcon Cap? Falcon was actually Cap's partner at one point, so why shouldn't he carry the shield?

I don't have an issue with him being Cap, AS LONG AS, 1. Give him the Super Soldier Serum, 2. Give him THE shield and get rid of the wings. Had they established Cap using that tech when he came out of the ice or as it was made available ( as in when the writer came up with it. ), I wouldn't have an issue with it. Its like Batman refusing to use guns then suddenly using Phasers because someone invented one. Its a character thing, we would adapt in real life because it makes sense, but leave that crap out of my fantasy world and let me be happy for a while.


CCC.

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by Kamatayan

So, does anyone want to talk about the whole Captain America being Hydra the whole time thing? I don't know why everyone is exploding over it. It's obviously a fluke.

Also, Dr. Manhattan is now the man behind N52 because of Rebirth. The Watchmen, or at least Manhattan are now part of the DC continuity. It goes without saying that May has been a wild month for comic books and comic book movies.

My whole thing is that I saw some fans wanting him to have a BF? Or was I mistaken on that part, I was like really??

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Originally Posted by snake5289

You know sometimes I think maybe I should check out the new comics of today but then I read stuff like that ^^ and say "NOPE! I'm good." before going about my day.

Haha agree, that's how I've been too lately. All the X-Titles seem to be a bit better still...and that's what I only collected in the past anyways.

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

. All we do know for certain is within 5 years or so it'll get returned to normal as is the way of comics. Only two things stay nowadays. Uncle Ben and 616 Logan stay dead.

Don't forget Charles...or is he alive again?

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Originally Posted by slim19722

Gamora wave is up on the TRU website.

Toys''R''Us

Awesome, thanks although sucks, was only able to get Vision, Armored Spidey and the original DD costume ugh. Hope the rest come back up soon. A dollar off sale too :P Go figure.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by LordMudd

I don't have an issue with him being Cap, AS LONG AS, 1. Give him the Super Soldier Serum, 2. Give him THE shield and get rid of the wings. Had they established Cap using that tech when he came out of the ice or as it was made available ( as in when the writer came up with it. ), I wouldn't have an issue with it. Its like Batman refusing to use guns then suddenly using Phasers because someone invented one. Its a character thing, we would adapt in real life because it makes sense, but leave that crap out of my fantasy world and let me be happy for a while.


CCC.

Personally I'm glad the didn't do what you said.
Sam Wilson Cap needs to be able to define his captain america as much as Bucky had to define his.

Steve Rogers is the original with super soldier serum. That's his Captain America. Bucky's is the prosthetic armed war vet and all that his history entails. And Sam Wilson's is about freedom. Soaring to new heights on the wings of an eagle. Finding freedom in the skies. Those wings mean a lot in symbolism to what he stands for and means to others. How the ground can no longer shackle him to the dirt. That he's free to soar the skies with freedom.

These aren't pretenders to the names. The names stand for things. Whether it's wolverine, spider-man, thor, or captain america. Each of those names over time have grown into more than simply the person behind the mask.

Wolverine stands for overcoming your past and making your own way in life. Laura Kinney is the perfect namesake to carry on that Legacy. Like I hope someday Gabby takes up the mantle in the far far far future.

Spider-man is about great power means great responsibility. The full body suit (outside the readers who knew who he was of course) always reflected an aspect it could be anyone of any race under that mask. That the point was that he was a kid trying to do what was right with what he was given.

Captain America is literally about representing America. The ideals of the people and what they should stand for. Sometimes even in the face of the government itself. Sometimes that even means redemption as we saw in Bucky's case. Sometimes that means 2nd chances to make wrongs right. (Hydra cap is a bit different. This is the anti-thesis of cap in every way, but it is reflective of society. That there are problems in america still, and hate mongers who thrive. It is one of the wounds of america that's been trying to bleed it dry. I may not like the fact that they are taking a character created to represent all that is good to do this, who has Jewish creators that firmly stood against fascism, but I can understand what they are trying to say about this internal corruption and how it hides in plain sight.)

Thor is about morality of character. They who be worthy to lift the hammer. Whether that's Donald Blake, Thor Odinson, Eric Masterson, Jane Foster, Ororo Munroe, or Dargo Ktor. Thor is the person who can wield the hammer. Whether it's a person from earth or the stars(Beta Ray Bill, who declined the name and gave the hammer back.)

These characters mean more than the singular identity they started with. And I'm glad to see them grow into the myths that they are to such heights their names are carried by others now to further expand what they mean and represent.
Myths grow and evolve with the times, and I'm glad to see Marvel is finally letting their universe grow and evolve. So in 10 years time, 20 years time, even 50 years time, we can see what new world has developed out of it because of this growth. It'd be pretty lame to look back in old age, and see the exact same universe as I had as a kid. That my kids are reading the same characters telling the same stories that only have mild differences, but instead have their own heroes, their own stories that we can share together. That they can come to me and tell me what they love about this new Marvel world, and I can share with them what I read as a kid. That we can mutually create a bond in these characters by recognizing and appreciating the differences for the heroes they need, and the heroes I had as a kid. That they can feel free to tell the stories with the heroes they like and have grown to love as I did. And it'll let me be able to hear what they think without preconceived notions of what Steve Rogers or Logan was. That I'll get the chance to listen to everything they rave about these characters and not already know everything they're saying. That I can genuinely listen and not think "Damn, marvel's still telling that same Tony Stark turns evil story" or "Peter was cloned again?" type stories.

[Ninjinister]

Yo people keep telling me they *saw* Manhattan. Unless he's supposed to be the random disembodied hand, all I saw were references to him.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Exodus

My whole thing is that I saw some fans wanting him to have a BF? Or was I mistaken on that part, I was like really??

I don't get this call to make Steve homosexual. Firstly I feel like the news articles have probably overblown how many people actually want this and secondly the movies seem to have already established Steve as heterosexual. I totally get the call for there to be more representation of diversity in comics and comic book movies but wouldn't we be kinda forcing Captain America into this? They'd have an easier time establishing Spider-Man as gay since he's only been on screen for like twenty minutes and that was mostly in an action-scene capacity.

[snake5289]

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Originally Posted by Exodus

Haha agree, that's how I've been too lately. All the X-Titles seem to be a bit better still...and that's what I only collected in the past anyways.

The only new comic I've enjoyed is the current Ant-Man series. I picked up the first trade with it came out and thought it was really enjoyable.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

I don't get this call to make Steve homosexual. Firstly I feel like the news articles have probably overblown how many people actually want this and secondly the movies seem to have already established Steve as heterosexual. I totally get the call for there to be more representation of diversity in comics and comic book movies but wouldn't we be kinda forcing Captain America into this? They'd have an easier time establishing Spider-Man as gay since he's only been on screen for like twenty minutes and that was mostly in an action-scene capacity.

MCU steve can be bisexual. He was a sheltered youth in a repressive time. Other than Peggy, never really showed interest in women, only went on dates because Bucky dragged him or begged him to go. The detail there is that outside of Peggy, the only other times he dated is because Bucky asked him to go. So literally, only because it was Bucky that asked, and he was really spending time with. Outside of those two, Sharon is the only time he's actually asked anyone out on his own.

The only thing they've established in the MCU is that Steve loved Peggy Carter, may have the hots for Sharon Carter, and he loves Bucky.

And I mean loves Bucky enough he'd probably leave Peggy or Sharon for him as we saw in Civil War. That's farther than even brotherly love.

So nah, the articles weren't overblown. I was reading the twitter trend as it was going on, and I gotta say, they had some really valid points. Most laughed at the trend and were saying "doesn't he already have one?"

As for Hydra cap. He may stick around for a bit as eventually Sam Wilson's Red Skull. The embodiment of the dark side of america that Wilson fights against.

That seems to be what they are hinting at. Trying to make him as hated as Red Skull. I can see that as a story device working, but I do have to admit it is pretty harsh on the Rogers legacy. Maybe an AU version replacement would have been better, but hopefully they can use the secret wars shift to say this is because he was merged with the Ultimate Captain America version or something down the road so they can salvage the original Rogers in some manner. (Ultimate Captain America was a pretty die-hard Republican. Whereas 616 Captain America was always more Democrat/Liberal/Progressive leaning.)

[Universe]

I got my Pilkster customs today; so pleased with the final outcome! These are great in hand and I love them!

Venom:






Carnage:




Agent Venom:








Anti Venom:






Maestro:





Odin:




Warbound (Elloe, Hiriom, No-Name Brood):



Elloe:


Hiriom:


No-Name Brood (Select Figure):


Meik is coming soon!
Pilkster really put his effort into these!

[Harbinger]

Pilk i need that red skinned gal in the gold!

[Kernel]

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Originally Posted by slim19722

Gamora wave is up on the TRU website.

Toys''R''Us

Thanks for the heads up but dang I missed them. All they have left now is antman.

As for cap, I always thought it was cool that he represents the ideals of America... He's just working hydra as a double agent... Gotta be.
As far as his relationship with Bucky, it is strictly platonic. He didn't choose him over agent 13, it's just that Bucky had execution squads coming at him and Steve was the only one who could keep him safe. Whereas Sharon carter didn't have to fear her for her safety.
Anyways cap isn't gay... Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[ChuckSass]

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Originally Posted by Exodus

Haha agree, that's how I've been too lately. All the X-Titles seem to be a bit better still...and that's what I only collected in the past anyways.

Between Black Widow, Spider-Woman and Mockingbird, I think all the female-led books are the best ones. Extraordinary X-Men and Moon Knight are also great books.

[ChuckSass]

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Originally Posted by ChuckSass

Between Black Widow, Spider-Woman and Mockingbird, I think all the female-led books are the best ones. Extraordinary X-Men and Moon Knight are also great books.

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Originally Posted by Kernel

As far as his relationship with Bucky, it is strictly platonic. He didn't choose him over agent 13, it's just that Bucky had execution squads coming at him and Steve was the only one who could keep him safe. Whereas Sharon carter didn't have to fear her for her safety.
Anyways cap isn't gay... Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Cap seemed pretty gay for Bucky. He was obsessive. if you go and rewatch the Winter Soldier, and the see Civil War, thats not a friendship thats a romance. And think about it, the only person who would get in the way of you and all your best friends is probably the person you love.

As for the Agent 13 thing, have you not heard of a "beard"? She was so under baked into the story. Also, it was messed up how he loved her aunt, then took her as sloppy seconds. She is just his cover-up

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by ChuckSass

Cap seemed pretty gay for Bucky. He was obsessive. if you go and rewatch the Winter Soldier, and the see Civil War, thats not a friendship thats a romance. And think about it, the only person who would get in the way of you and all your best friends is probably the person you love.

As for the Agent 13 thing, have you not heard of a "beard"? She was so under baked into the story. Also, it was messed up how he loved her aunt, then took her as sloppy seconds. She is just his cover-up

Agent 13 is more than a cover up.

Like I said, if you look at Winter Soldier, she is literally the only other woman he's ever genuinely asked out on a date. Outside of Peggy, the only other time Steve dated was when Bucky asked him to come along(Captain America 1)

Bisexual doesn't mean gay. It means bisexual. It means he can be attracted to either or. When he's dating a girl that doesn't make him straight, when he's dating a guy that doesn't make him gay.

Bisexual means both.
Bucky and his story are definitely a romance, but let's not count out that Steve did ask out Sharon before the events of Civil War, so an attraction was already there on his side. This is before he found out she was Peggy's niece.

So in the movie continuity, the groundwork for him being bisexual really is already there.

[kylactus]

Or maybe caps Capible of loving another man without wanting to bang or marry him. Like brothers, or brothers in arms. In the original comics Bucky was more like a son, why anyone would want to bring a child into a war zone I do not know, but the origin of caps guilt, before a shit load if retcons, altered time lines, retellings, reboots, reimagining, and more demention than a dodecahedron, was the fact that he lead a child to his death.

[TheLongestDay]

Sooooooooooooo....anyway.

Any sign of that Panther/Agent 13 pack yet?

I noticed the Cap with bike is up on Chinabay now - hoping those 2 will follow suit shortly.

Falcon too! (I hope.)

[MUfan97]

Sudden theory about Cap's recent Hydra reveal that may or may not be original, but I figured I'd spout it here.

Time travel.

Isn't it convenient that the man who became Captain America just HAPPENED to be a Hydra agent? What if an agent of current Hydra went back in time and inducted Steve at a more influential age? If a current team of Marvel heroes could go back to that point, this current stupidity would be retconned back to the state that it should be.

[Boy Blunder]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

Personally I'm glad the didn't do what you said.
Sam Wilson Cap needs to be able to define his captain america as much as Bucky had to define his.

Steve Rogers is the original with super soldier serum. That's his Captain America. Bucky's is the prosthetic armed war vet and all that his history entails. And Sam Wilson's is about freedom. Soaring to new heights on the wings of an eagle. Finding freedom in the skies. Those wings mean a lot in symbolism to what he stands for and means to others. How the ground can no longer shackle him to the dirt. That he's free to soar the skies with freedom.

These aren't pretenders to the names. The names stand for things. Whether it's wolverine, spider-man, thor, or captain america. Each of those names over time have grown into more than simply the person behind the mask.

Wolverine stands for overcoming your past and making your own way in life. Laura Kinney is the perfect namesake to carry on that Legacy. Like I hope someday Gabby takes up the mantle in the far far far future.

Spider-man is about great power means great responsibility. The full body suit (outside the readers who knew who he was of course) always reflected an aspect it could be anyone of any race under that mask. That the point was that he was a kid trying to do what was right with what he was given.

Captain America is literally about representing America. The ideals of the people and what they should stand for. Sometimes even in the face of the government itself. Sometimes that even means redemption as we saw in Bucky's case. Sometimes that means 2nd chances to make wrongs right. (Hydra cap is a bit different. This is the anti-thesis of cap in every way, but it is reflective of society. That there are problems in america still, and hate mongers who thrive. It is one of the wounds of america that's been trying to bleed it dry. I may not like the fact that they are taking a character created to represent all that is good to do this, who has Jewish creators that firmly stood against fascism, but I can understand what they are trying to say about this internal corruption and how it hides in plain sight.)

Thor is about morality of character. They who be worthy to lift the hammer. Whether that's Donald Blake, Thor Odinson, Eric Masterson, Jane Foster, Ororo Munroe, or Dargo Ktor. Thor is the person who can wield the hammer. Whether it's a person from earth or the stars(Beta Ray Bill, who declined the name and gave the hammer back.)

These characters mean more than the singular identity they started with. And I'm glad to see them grow into the myths that they are to such heights their names are carried by others now to further expand what they mean and represent.
Myths grow and evolve with the times, and I'm glad to see Marvel is finally letting their universe grow and evolve. So in 10 years time, 20 years time, even 50 years time, we can see what new world has developed out of it because of this growth. It'd be pretty lame to look back in old age, and see the exact same universe as I had as a kid. That my kids are reading the same characters telling the same stories that only have mild differences, but instead have their own heroes, their own stories that we can share together. That they can come to me and tell me what they love about this new Marvel world, and I can share with them what I read as a kid. That we can mutually create a bond in these characters by recognizing and appreciating the differences for the heroes they need, and the heroes I had as a kid. That they can feel free to tell the stories with the heroes they like and have grown to love as I did. And it'll let me be able to hear what they think without preconceived notions of what Steve Rogers or Logan was. That I'll get the chance to listen to everything they rave about these characters and not already know everything they're saying. That I can genuinely listen and not think "Damn, marvel's still telling that same Tony Stark turns evil story" or "Peter was cloned again?" type stories.

Bless this post, seriously.

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by Kernel

Thanks for the heads up but dang I missed them. All they have left now is antman.

Hopefully they restock...just got confirmation from TRU that they shipped the stuff I ordered. Funny thing is they shipped them each individually because of the separate tracking #'s.