[K Dubious]

Hey team I can't believe no one is talking about the SDCC set now that official pics have been revealed. I think the set looks really great even if we are only getting two actual figures. Plus it looks like Collector will be fully articulated and Moon Boy looks to have wrists! Unfortunately that looks like the only joints on him, I do not see elbows, knees, torso, or waist.

Now onto my negative spin on things...

I really think it looks bad for our line that something that was previewed last year at SDCC ended up the next years exclusive. I think that means they were not able to get Lockjaw to retail, so Snow might be onto something. If a store won't order it what else can they do with it?

I'm afraid that it might mean we will only continue to get the comic packs and single carded, but more deluxe sets are probably out of the question right now.

[Captain Nash]

I DO want this set but only for the Collector though. But if the rumored 6" set is also true, I am definitely going for that first, but I'm hoping I can snag both once they go on the HTS site.

[Kamatayan]

Hell yeah! I'm oddly hyped for Moon Boy. Now might be a good time to pick up some of those 3.75" scale Animal Planet stuff to get a Devil Dinosaur for Moon Boy.

[Kamatayan]

Here a picture of one of the Animal Planet figures I mentioned that would work as a Devil Dinosaur for the upcoming Moonboy.

[Exodus]

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Originally Posted by K Dubious

Hey team I can't believe no one is talking about the SDCC set now that official pics have been revealed. I think the set looks really great even if we are only getting two actual figures. Plus it looks like Collector will be fully articulated and Moon Boy looks to have wrists! Unfortunately that looks like the only joints on him, I do not see elbows, knees, torso, or waist.

Now onto my negative spin on things...

I really think it looks bad for our line that something that was previewed last year at SDCC ended up the next years exclusive. I think that means they were not able to get Lockjaw to retail, so Snow might be onto something. If a store won't order it what else can they do with it?

I'm afraid that it might mean we will only continue to get the comic packs and single carded, but more deluxe sets are probably out of the question right now.

Probably cause the price point is a bit high for something small. Heck the Ant-Man/Giant Man was the same price and you got something way bigger...compared to this set.

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Originally Posted by Jackieboy

a toy sales graph was posted on a facebook group for 2015 a while back hasbro had a steady year but profit made came from the star wars line NOT from the 3:75 marvel line,mattel made the most sales overall through barbie,lol.lego came in second.

Not surprised most likely due to the Force Awakens stuff too having a midnight release date really helped it.

[Jackieboy]

so hasbro have to reveal the next 2 waves,wonder if they will go back to 3 packs?im not excited about the upcoming set,other than lockjaw and collector the rest will end up with the obscure characters in the collection.

[redfox]

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Originally Posted by K Dubious

I really think it looks bad for our line that something that was previewed last year at SDCC ended up the next years exclusive. I think that means they were not able to get Lockjaw to retail, so Snow might be onto something.

I actually think this might be a good thing. Hasbro has teased the digital sculpts for upcoming Marvel Legends exclusives in the SDCC panels for years. To my knowledge, Hasbro has never teased digital sculpts for the Marvel Universe SDCC exclusives at SDCC. Lockjaw was never going to be released at retail this year, he was always going to be the con exclusive. Including Lockjaws's digital sculpt as a teaser for this 2016's exclusve could be a sign of rejuvenation/renewed interest for the line.

[Snowflakian]

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Originally Posted by K Dubious

I really think it looks bad for our line that something that was previewed last year at SDCC ended up the next years exclusive. I think that means they were not able to get Lockjaw to retail, so Snow might be onto something. If a store won't order it what else can they do with it?

I'm afraid that it might mean we will only continue to get the comic packs and single carded, but more deluxe sets are probably out of the question right now.

They could still single card Lockjaw. The way retail orders work is based on case assortment interest. No clue how well he'd sell as a single carded figure though. They did already attempt this with Rocket Raccoon before, and he had a movie behind him at the time.

Exclusives don't preclude us from getting a character. Exclusives only mean we may not get that exact paint app version of the character, or a slightly retooled mold of the character. (See Red Skull exclusives, Cap, etc. from previously.)

More deluxe sets are probably out of the question for right now because of the lack of retailer support, but later when buzz starts going good again and the action figure market hits another boom, we should have more leeway to see diverse figures. Right now, comic packs and single carded are what we're lucky to have.

A lot of what I was saying before was from experience of watching what hasbro does from the collector standpoint as well as having worked retail for way too long. So I was talking about that from experience on both sides of the equation.

Like I said though, the hype ball will probably get rolling again the closer we get to the two year team movie cycle, and Thor 3 should push more in that direction too if it's good. Market trends come in waves. Action Figures will have a boom again, it's only a matter of when.

This is why diverse coverage in the comics to pull fans in is a good thing. Stuff like the new Ironman and more, generate new readers and create new collectors too that may want a figure of this new character.

For example, up until this week, I haven't been able to find the Jane Foster Thor comic pack anywhere. Stores have had the comic packs, but not that one. So then I've had to wait until they sell through the others before a new re-stocking happens.

Same issue I'm seeing at my local TRUs too. No Gamora wave because they haven't sold through on the Tritons and Uliks of the first wave.

[MUfan97]

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Originally Posted by Snowflakian

This is why diverse coverage in the comics to pull fans in is a good thing. Stuff like the new Ironman and more, generate new readers and create new collectors too that may want a figure of this new character.

I'm usually open to changes like Jane Thor, Sam Cap, etc, but why are they pitching her as the new Iron MAN? Admitably, I haven't really read too much into it, but is she pretending to be Tony as Iron Man? Is she just pretending to be male in general? Is she transgender? I mean, more power to her being a main character for a while, but the whole man part is confusing me.

[jedirulz123]

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Originally Posted by MUfan97

I'm usually open to changes like Jane Thor, Sam Cap, etc, but why are they pitching her as the new Iron MAN? Admitably, I haven't really read too much into it, but is she pretending to be Tony as Iron Man? Is she just pretending to be male in general? Is she transgender? I mean, more power to her being a main character for a while, but the whole man part is confusing me.

Man as in human. I think it's telling that she's young and black, and a she. Is she even a character yet? Random stuff taking over the mantels of actual heroes is a nonsense. It made sense with Falcon becoming Captain America, it made some sense for Jane to become Thor, but this is silly.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

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Originally Posted by jedirulz123

I have to say, all the "Infinity War will lead to every MCU character & villain who's never had a figure to suddenly be made" is bollocks. We said the same about Age of Ultron, some of us said the same about Civil War. It didn't happen. Infinity War will come, we'll get 3 2-packs like for AoU of repackaged or repainted figures, then most likely an SDCC set with a Thanos.

we already got a SDCC set with Thanos
unless you mean a movie version
they really haven't made MCU SDCC exclusive sets have they?

[Lionheart]

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Man as in human.

That only really works in the plural, not the singular. 'Mankind', 'Human', etc. When talking about specific individual; Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Iron Man - it has to refer to the individual in question. So Iron Man has to be a male. However, we don't know whether this girl will take up the mantle but use the suit to pretend to be a 'man' or not.

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I think it's telling that she's young and black, and a she. Is she even a character yet? Random stuff taking over the mantels of actual heroes is a nonsense. It made sense with Falcon becoming Captain America, it made some sense for Jane to become Thor, but this is silly.

I'm old enough to remember when James Rhodes took over the Iron Man identity, it seemed natural and worked well within the story (Stark's alcoholism was quite groundbreaking at the time). He was Iron Man at the time of the original Secret Wars. When new characters take up mantles of established characters out of nowhere, and especially when they seem to have been chosen specifically for how 'opposite' their physical characteristics are, it seems to jar.

Having said that, the Marvel Universe’s continuity has been a mess since the 90’s. All this ‘Earth 616 / Earth 5150’ nonsense was created so that anyone could basically make up anything at all without it affecting any other continuity. It makes everything a kind of spin-off fan fiction, and enables writers like Bendis to pretty much do whatever they want. Sometimes the stories work, often they don’t. But regardless, since nothing really matters it’s harder to really care about any of the characters or stories.

Kind of ironic that something Marvel used to relentlessly trash DC for - a completely incoherent and messy continuity - is now something they seem to have embraced as a solid concept.

Not that it matters anymore. Ever since Disney bought Marvel the comics have been little more than promotional tools for the movies and character properties they own. This was already happening since the Toybiz days when toys were making more money than the comics, but now it seems to be centralised policy.

[Kamatayan]

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Originally Posted by Autobot_Goldbug

they really haven't made MCU SDCC exclusive sets have they?

The closest thing we've gotten to one was the SDCC Raimi Spidey. I know he's not MCU, but he's the only movie exclusive we've ever gotten.

[jedirulz123]

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Originally Posted by Autobot_Goldbug

we already got a SDCC set with Thanos
unless you mean a movie version
they really haven't made MCU SDCC exclusive sets have they?

It was a Movie one I meant. It would make all kinds of sense to release MCU figures as SDCC exclusives instead of comic repaints. Last year's Ant Man set was a disappointment, this year's is just bullshit.

[Pilkster]

Getting married next month guys so time to drum up some last minute cash. Ive put together a little portfolio of the 100+ customs Ive made, I know Im missing a few as i didnt take pics of every order ive made in the style I took the other pics. so If anyone is interested in ordering any customs take a look and my album and hit me up with a PM.



And my little portfolio
Figures by JAMES PILKINGTON | Photobucket

My FB Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1171632092894186/

[Snowflakian]

I'm not saying every villain would get covered in an infinity war line, but the majority of heroes should with the amount of cameos those two films are said to entail.

Though they could in theory do the villains in the off months between dvd release and hype build for the next, but who knows. It's only, what, maybe 3 bad guys to slot into the line somewhere? That's really not much that'd cause an issue in case assortments.

It really depends on how much a line like that is supported by retailers because of sales and what the market trend is at the time. If the market is open to it, we could see larger shelf space for Marvel at the time between MCU and comic based because of how strong the hype is on these back to back team movies.

As for the new Ironman, read the comic. It's easy to dismiss and condemn it from surface level headlines, but in how the story is told is in whether or not it works. I for one support this idea, and from all I've read, it looks like fun and an interesting direction. It's another character to add to the growing roster of marvel heroes.

Okay, and maybe I was immediately a fan after I saw her first "war machine" like armor that had some amazing influences from Patlabor and Appleseed. And yes, representation does matter. A young black girl inventor who is on par with Tony Stark? Yes please. There's tons of story potential in that with their interactions and banter.

If the story is good, which so far it has been, and if it increases sales, which it has been, and it brings more fans in, which it has been, what's the problem?

[redx24]

Thor's dropping a whole new hammer.

[Kamatayan]

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Originally Posted by Pilkster

Getting married next month guys so time to drum up some last minute cash. Ive put together a little portfolio of the 100+ customs Ive made, I know Im missing a few as i didnt take pics of every order ive made in the style I took the other pics. so If anyone is interested in ordering any customs take a look and my album and hit me up with a PM.



And my little portfolio
Figures by JAMES PILKINGTON | Photobucket

Congratulations dude! Also, that's a really nice logo.

You should post this on the B/S/T tab to get more publicity.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by redx24

Thor's dropping a whole new hammer.

Haha thats great. I mean if ya cant weild a hammer ya can always bust out the modified asgardian fecalatory.

[Kernel]

Ok guys hasbro made $831.2 MILLION in revenues in the first quarter of 2016... A 16% increase... Star Wars and Disney were the catalyst according to Forbes but marvel toys also get mentioned in this article:

Why Hasbro Should Thank Disney For Its Big Sales Jump - Fortune

Make of that what you will... I've read some of the hasbro investor reports and they lump the marvel action figures into "boys toys" and do not disclose publicly (at least that I could find) the 6" and/or 3.75" sales/revenues and or profits.

Also $70 for a collector figure and a bunch of statues... Ouch! But I'll still probably get one lol... I would rather pay hasbro than a reseller.

[Harbinger]

70 bucks? For that set? Thats 20 bucks worth AT BEST!

[LordMudd]

I want a Collector but not necessarily that one, I prefer comic accurate, and I want Lockjaw. I don't need Moonboy without Devil Dinosaur, and the artifacts would be fun.


CCC.

[Augustus_Cole]

don't know how prevalent the new releases are..as i don't follow too closely now....but today i saw every new figure EXCEPT for Gamora. Some of them looked pretty good.

[redx24]

All I need are the artifacts and casted copies would be just as good imho..

Anyone else remember that time when everyone complained the exclusive was just a slightly larger helicarrier with figures.

[Kamatayan]

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Originally Posted by redx24

All I need are the artifacts and casted copies would be just as good imho..

Anyone else remember that time when everyone complained the exclusive was just a slightly larger helicarrier with figures.

Never was around for that era, but in hindsight that must be hilarious for those of you who have been here since the beginning.