New Marvel Legends/6" Appreciation Thread

Harbinger · 03-19-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7

Flash is played by Tony Revolori, or as you would probably put it, "a skinny Latino kid", and Ned Leeds (aka, Peter's co-worker at the Daily Bugle in the comics, and one of the people that Roderick Kingsley got as a patsy to take the fall as Hobgoblin instead of being caught himself) is played by Jacob Batalon, or as you described him, "a fat Asian kid". Eddie Brock is not in the movie.

Looks kinda like Tommy Wiseau.

I knew it was someone they changed. I wish they hadnt changed flash though....especially since he was my favorite venom, i love brock as toxin more than i did as venom. Id like to see either the dude who played yanto on torch wood or david morrisey play roderick kingsley.

Jeddostotle7 · 03-19-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

I knew it was someone they changed. I wish they hadnt changed flash though....especially since he was my favorite venom, i love brock as toxin more than i did as venom. Id like to see either the dude who played yanto on torch wood or david morrisey play roderick kingsley.

To be fair, these days, it makes more sense for Flash to be more of an intellectual bully than a physical one, as the stereotypical "jock stuffing nerd into locker" kinda dynamic isn't really how bullying works these days.

Harbinger · 03-19-2017, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7

To be fair, these days, it makes more sense for Flash to be more of an intellectual bully than a physical one, as the stereotypical "jock stuffing nerd into locker" kinda dynamic isn't really how bullying works these days.

Yah but i does still happen. Maybe flash coulda been a "smart jock"? Haha. Total oxymoron like military intelligence or honest politician.

i dont really care about ned but flash bugs me...especially since maybe we might one day get to see agent venom onscreen...of course by then flash will have been retconned into an asexual spiritual alien or something haha

Augustus_Cole · 03-19-2017, 03:35 PM

not hunting but was near a Walgreens so stopped in..
found Dazzler, Cyclops, and Polaris...they also had Sunfire and Shatterstar..
(I can cancel my pre-order now)...
only one left i need is Colossus but one of the Ark fam says he gots me....

SIDE NOTE: they had a lot of legends figs...but the xmen were in the MIDDLE of the Easter aisle...mad random...if you didn't look there (and i only looked because i kept reading where people said to look around) i'd have never seen them...

Weapon X · 03-19-2017, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

Didn't they say that Venom has nothing to do with the MCU or the new Spider-Man? That seems silly to me.

I agree 100%. Sony is freaking whack.

Bearjew · 03-19-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7

Flash is played by Tony Revolori, or as you would probably put it, "a skinny Latino kid", and Ned Leeds (aka, Peter's co-worker at the Daily Bugle in the comics, and one of the people that Roderick Kingsley got as a patsy to take the fall as Hobgoblin instead of being caught himself) is played by Jacob Batalon, or as you described him, "a fat Asian kid". Eddie Brock is not in the movie.

Looks kinda like Tommy Wiseau.

I think it makes a pretty good Ozzy

Trivial Psychic · 03-19-2017, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

I agree 100%. Sony is freaking whack.

Just to give you an idea of the insane things Sony had planned for the Spider-Man franchise before Marvel took over, they actually mentioned (in one of their leaked email exchanges) that Jared Leto would make a fantastic Felicia Hardy (did they want Black Cat to be transgendered?...WTF?) and that Denzel Washington, Will Smith, and George Clooney should be kept in mind for the role of Dr. Octopus, as well as Channing Tatum, who was already their front runner for Venom. Fantastic actors...but none of them are Doc Ock...

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

Didn't they say that Venom has nothing to do with the MCU or the new Spider-Man? That seems silly to me.

This is where the rhetoric from the producer in the recent interview left me concerned. He mentioned Deadpool and Logan as great characters who pulled off great stories and spin-off films without resorting to relying on cameo appearances or even a running narrative featuring other characters.

Here's the problem though, without Spidey, Venom is not a strong enough character to carry out his own narratives. Wolverine and Deadpool are. I'm an admittedly biased Venom fan, but even I believe that to be the case. There are years and years of cancelled books and poorly written miniseries that support this. You will be hard pressed to find any Venom story arc that was entertaining on its own merits without Spider-Man being involved. And before anyone says "Maximum Carnage" as a standalone Venom flick, remember that by the time that ran it's course, Venom had teamed up with Spidey and several other street level heroes, as well as members of the Avengers. Carnage is a certifiable A-Lister villian, and it would have to be a two or three film act honestly. Some creepy CGI and some blood splattering on the walls simply wouldn't cut it (and I am not a Carnage fan...just recognizing the truths.) Trying to tie it up all neatly in one film WILL give you another Spiderman 3, or something far worse...just bloodier or more violent.

That's not to say that it's not possible to do a good Venom flick. I saw a fan film a few years back by Adi Shankar (who directed the fan films for the Punisher featuring Thomas Jane called "Dirty Laundry, as well as the controversial Power Rangers re-imagining a few years back,) called "Truth in Journalism," which told the story of newly-merged with-the-symbiote Eddie Brock working with some film students on a journalism documentary, as he plotted his revenge on Spidey and struggles with the voices in his head as well as the Symbiote's murderous influences. It featured some nice nods to events in the books, while keeping true to the character and telling an interesting story of the descent into Brock's psychosis as he struggles to keep his old life and new life in balance.

Would I see that movie in theatres? Bet your ass I would.

Here's the link if anyone is interested...

https://youtu.be/7YDYL6oECjU

E-zine Dorkly also recently put out a story about the leaked Sony emails, as well as future Spider-Man and Venom ideas they were pitching before the Marvel agreement, which can be checked out here for those of you who have the interest. Pretty much the gist of the leaked emails are posted there...

6 Bizarre, Forgotten Revelations From The Andrew Garfield Spider-Man Movies - Dorkly Post

Weapon X · 03-19-2017, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Just to give you an idea of the insane things Sony had planned for the Spider-Man franchise before Marvel took over, they actually mentioned (in one of their leaked email exchanges) that Jared Leto would make a fantastic Felicia Hardy (did they want Black Cat to be transgendered?...WTF?) and that Denzel Washington, Will Smith, and George Clooney should be kept in mind for the role of Dr. Octopus, as well as Channing Tatum, who was already their front runner for Venom. Fantastic actors...but none of them are Doc Ock...

This is where the rhetoric from the producer in the recent interview left me concerned. He mentioned Deadpool and Logan as great characters who pulled off great stories and spin-off films without resorting to relying on cameo appearances or even a running narrative featuring other characters.

Here's the problem though, without Spidey, Venom is not a strong enough character to carry out his own narratives. Wolverine and Deadpool are. I'm an admittedly biased Venom fan, but even I believe that to be the case. There are years and years of cancelled books and poorly written miniseries that support this. You will be hard pressed to find any Venom story arc that was entertaining on its own merits without Spider-Man being involved. And before anyone says "Maximum Carnage" as a standalone Venom flick, remember that by the time that ran it's course, Venom had teamed up with Spidey and several other street level heroes, as well as members of the Avengers. Carnage is a certifiable A-Lister villian, and it would have to be a two or three film act honestly. Some creepy CGI and some blood splattering on the walls simply wouldn't cut it (and I am not a Carnage fan...just recognizing the truths.) Trying to tie it up all neatly in one film WILL give you another Spiderman 3, or something far worse...just bloodier or more violent.

That's not to say that it's not possible to do a good Venom flick. I saw a fan film a few years back by Adi Shankar (who directed the fan films for the Punisher featuring Thomas Jane called "Dirty Laundry, as well as the controversial Power Rangers re-imagining a few years back,) called "Truth in Journalism," which told the story of newly-merged with-the-symbiote Eddie Brock working with some film students on a journalism documentary, as he plotted his revenge on Spidey and struggles with the voices in his head as well as the Symbiote's murderous influences. It featured some nice nods to events in the books, while keeping true to the character and telling an interesting story of the descent into Brock's psychosis as he struggles to keep his old life and new life in balance.

Would I see that movie in theatres? Bet your ass I would.

Here's the link if anyone is interested...

https://youtu.be/7YDYL6oECjU

E-zine Dorkly also recently put out a story about the leaked Sony emails, as well as future Spider-Man and Venom ideas they were pitching before the Marvel agreement, which can be checked out here for those of you who have the interest. Pretty much the gist of the leaked emails are posted there...

6 Bizarre, Forgotten Revelations From The Andrew Garfield Spider-Man Movies - Dorkly Post

Preach.

To be honest, I'm not even sure if Venom can pull off being a protagonist, he's just not engineered that way. I too saw Truth In Journalism and I'm just not sure.

MeLikeJinx · 03-19-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

not hunting but was near a Walgreens so stopped in..
found Dazzler, Cyclops, and Polaris...they also had Sunfire and Shatterstar..
(I can cancel my pre-order now)...
only one left i need is Colossus but one of the Ark fam says he gots me....

SIDE NOTE: they had a lot of legends figs...but the xmen were in the MIDDLE of the Easter aisle...mad random...if you didn't look there (and i only looked because i kept reading where people said to look around) i'd have never seen them...

Sweet score... I kinda regret passing on Dazzler when I saw a pic of her with the unmasked Captain Marvel head.

And even though I don't like Colossus's outfit I would get it just for the bearded head and hope they make a classic Colossus later on... he looks cool with the beard... never even knew he had that look before.

Augustus_Cole · 03-19-2017, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MeLikeJinx

And even though I don't like Colossus's outfit I would get it just for the bearded head and hope they make a classic Colossus later on... he looks cool with the beard... never even knew he had that look before.

i almost hate that outfit...but i can't pass up x-men..plus i'm gonna grab an extra or two for some customs down the line..some people out there do some pretty amazing work..

Jeddostotle7 · 03-19-2017, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

Yah but i does still happen. Maybe flash coulda been a "smart jock"? Haha. Total oxymoron like military intelligence or honest politician.

i dont really care about ned but flash bugs me...especially since maybe we might one day get to see agent venom onscreen...of course by then flash will have been retconned into an asexual spiritual alien or something haha

Eh, it'll be a while before we might even possibly get Agent Venom on screen, Tony Revolori's Flash Thompson could easily transform as a character from nerd-bully to military man over the course of a couple years. Not everyone stays the same kind of person they were in high school.

Archangel · 03-19-2017, 08:37 PM

Finished my Warlock!

And my Gamecocks just knocked off Duke in the tournament!

It's been an awesome day...

GizmoTron · 03-19-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

In addition, I've seen some of the emails that Sony was passing back and forward regarding the direction of the ASM franchise and Venom thanks to that Sony Films leak a while back, and some of the ideas for Venom regarding casting and story were AWFUL (does anyone really want Channing Tatum to play Venom, because Sony did, and Channing was pushing for it...)

In all honesty, I'd buy Tatum as Eddie Brock long before I'd buy him as Gambit.

decepticon_mark · 03-20-2017, 02:17 AM

Looks kinda like Tommy Wiseau.[/QUOTE]

TheBlueMarvel · 03-20-2017, 06:42 AM

@Decepticon_Mark

I knew who it was even before reading your comment, nice job

...also, digging the JRJR illustration!

Captain Nash · 03-20-2017, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoTron

In all honesty, I'd buy Tatum as Eddie Brock long before I'd buy him as Gambit.

I vote to keep him away from all super hero movies. One ruined childhood franchise movie is enough.

Harbinger · 03-20-2017, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

I vote to keep him away from all super hero movies. One ruined childhood franchise movie is enough.

Maybe get him stuck in a film series with uwe boll. He did do a good job in the dilemma...though he just played himself.....a talentless d-bag.

donmeca2020 · 03-20-2017, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

I vote to keep him away from all super hero movies. One ruined childhood franchise movie is enough.

Tatum is just one of those guys, who is only good for those teen love story movies, or something american pieish. just a bunch of teens or 20 something year olds going out on a road trip... while i would have just dealt with him being gambit, i would not tolerate him playing Eddie brock.

En Sabah Nerd · 03-20-2017, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

.but none of them are Doc Ock...

Only Alfred Molina gets to be Doc Ock, he nailed it. He fit the physicality and he successfully made the villain sympathetic which when you're dealing with a single movie is usually the way to go.

Molina is Doc Ock, Willem Dafoe is Green Goblin, and JK Simmons is the best damn J Jonah Jameson we are ever going to get.

Augustus_Cole · 03-20-2017, 11:31 AM

unreal...
He.....WINS!!

http://www.toyark.com/crobthecreator...s-room-176737/

Harbinger · 03-20-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Only Alfred Molina gets to be Doc Ock, he nailed it. He fit the physicality and he successfully made the villain sympathetic which when you're dealing with a single movie is usually the way to go.

Molina is Doc Ock, Willem Dafoe is Green Goblin, and JK Simmons is the best damn J Jonah Jameson we are ever going to get.

Agree. Hopefully somehow we get to see simmons as jonah again. He was great.

Kirathis · 03-20-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

unreal...
He.....WINS!!

http://www.toyark.com/crobthecreator...s-room-176737/

Seriously! I am drooling over his Cosmic shelves!

Weapon X · 03-20-2017, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Only Alfred Molina gets to be Doc Ock, he nailed it. He fit the physicality and he successfully made the villain sympathetic which when you're dealing with a single movie is usually the way to go.

Molina is Doc Ock, Willem Dafoe is Green Goblin, and JK Simmons is the best damn J Jonah Jameson we are ever going to get.

Preach it brotha!!!

Archangel · 03-20-2017, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

unreal...
He.....WINS!!

http://www.toyark.com/crobthecreator...s-room-176737/

Wow, that's a lot of time and money spent.

Dr Kain · 03-20-2017, 04:57 PM

These arrived today:

03-19-2017, 03:05 PM	#26126
Harbinger Overlord of Evil Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lost Ruins. Posts: 15,139	Quote: Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 Flash is played by Tony Revolori, or as you would probably put it, "a skinny Latino kid", and Ned Leeds (aka, Peter's co-worker at the Daily Bugle in the comics, and one of the people that Roderick Kingsley got as a patsy to take the fall as Hobgoblin instead of being caught himself) is played by Jacob Batalon, or as you described him, "a fat Asian kid". Eddie Brock is not in the movie. Looks kinda like Tommy Wiseau. I knew it was someone they changed. I wish they hadnt changed flash though....especially since he was my favorite venom, i love brock as toxin more than i did as venom. Id like to see either the dude who played yanto on torch wood or david morrisey play roderick kingsley. __________________

03-19-2017, 03:28 PM	#26128
Harbinger Overlord of Evil Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lost Ruins. Posts: 15,139	Quote: Originally Posted by Jeddostotle7 To be fair, these days, it makes more sense for Flash to be more of an intellectual bully than a physical one, as the stereotypical "jock stuffing nerd into locker" kinda dynamic isn't really how bullying works these days. Yah but i does still happen. Maybe flash coulda been a "smart jock"? Haha. Total oxymoron like military intelligence or honest politician. i dont really care about ned but flash bugs me...especially since maybe we might one day get to see agent venom onscreen...of course by then flash will have been retconned into an asexual spiritual alien or something haha __________________ Last edited by Harbinger; 03-19-2017 at 03:30 PM..

03-19-2017, 03:35 PM	#26129
Augustus_Cole DarkToyLord Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: It's Dark and Hell is Hot... Posts: 4,959	not hunting but was near a Walgreens so stopped in.. found Dazzler, Cyclops, and Polaris...they also had Sunfire and Shatterstar.. (I can cancel my pre-order now)... only one left i need is Colossus but one of the Ark fam says he gots me.... SIDE NOTE: they had a lot of legends figs...but the xmen were in the MIDDLE of the Easter aisle...mad random...if you didn't look there (and i only looked because i kept reading where people said to look around) i'd have never seen them... __________________ The DarkToyLord Last edited by Augustus_Cole; 03-19-2017 at 03:38 PM..

03-19-2017, 04:39 PM	#26130
Weapon X Yup, big change! Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,663	Quote: Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey Didn't they say that Venom has nothing to do with the MCU or the new Spider-Man? That seems silly to me. I agree 100%. Sony is freaking whack. __________________

03-19-2017, 07:04 PM	#26133
Weapon X Yup, big change! Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,663	Quote: Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic Just to give you an idea of the insane things Sony had planned for the Spider-Man franchise before Marvel took over, they actually mentioned (in one of their leaked email exchanges) that Jared Leto would make a fantastic Felicia Hardy (did they want Black Cat to be transgendered?...WTF?) and that Denzel Washington, Will Smith, and George Clooney should be kept in mind for the role of Dr. Octopus, as well as Channing Tatum, who was already their front runner for Venom. Fantastic actors...but none of them are Doc Ock... This is where the rhetoric from the producer in the recent interview left me concerned. He mentioned Deadpool and Logan as great characters who pulled off great stories and spin-off films without resorting to relying on cameo appearances or even a running narrative featuring other characters. Here's the problem though, without Spidey, Venom is not a strong enough character to carry out his own narratives. Wolverine and Deadpool are. I'm an admittedly biased Venom fan, but even I believe that to be the case. There are years and years of cancelled books and poorly written miniseries that support this. You will be hard pressed to find any Venom story arc that was entertaining on its own merits without Spider-Man being involved. And before anyone says "Maximum Carnage" as a standalone Venom flick, remember that by the time that ran it's course, Venom had teamed up with Spidey and several other street level heroes, as well as members of the Avengers. Carnage is a certifiable A-Lister villian, and it would have to be a two or three film act honestly. Some creepy CGI and some blood splattering on the walls simply wouldn't cut it (and I am not a Carnage fan...just recognizing the truths.) Trying to tie it up all neatly in one film WILL give you another Spiderman 3, or something far worse...just bloodier or more violent. That's not to say that it's not possible to do a good Venom flick. I saw a fan film a few years back by Adi Shankar (who directed the fan films for the Punisher featuring Thomas Jane called "Dirty Laundry, as well as the controversial Power Rangers re-imagining a few years back,) called "Truth in Journalism," which told the story of newly-merged with-the-symbiote Eddie Brock working with some film students on a journalism documentary, as he plotted his revenge on Spidey and struggles with the voices in his head as well as the Symbiote's murderous influences. It featured some nice nods to events in the books, while keeping true to the character and telling an interesting story of the descent into Brock's psychosis as he struggles to keep his old life and new life in balance. Would I see that movie in theatres? Bet your ass I would. Here's the link if anyone is interested... https://youtu.be/7YDYL6oECjU E-zine Dorkly also recently put out a story about the leaked Sony emails, as well as future Spider-Man and Venom ideas they were pitching before the Marvel agreement, which can be checked out here for those of you who have the interest. Pretty much the gist of the leaked emails are posted there... 6 Bizarre, Forgotten Revelations From The Andrew Garfield Spider-Man Movies - Dorkly Post Preach. To be honest, I'm not even sure if Venom can pull off being a protagonist, he's just not engineered that way. I too saw Truth In Journalism and I'm just not sure. __________________

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decepticon_mark Creating own lil universe Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern Alabama Posts: 1,149	Looks kinda like Tommy Wiseau.[/QUOTE] Attached Thumbnails