[ariellagunas]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

And Oracle, Manta, Smasher and Starbolt! Aside from Oracle and Gladiator I think Manta has always been my favorite, I just love her design.

Yeah, those ones stick out the most. Somehow I prefer the ones that are not so obviously from the Legion, like the aforementioned Hussar and Warstar. But I'll be lying if I wouldn't buy an Oracle or Manta. Also the Avengers had a female Smasher, and Logan dressed as Fang, so those might get a chance someday.

I'm surprised Marvel have not pushed the Starjammers more, specially after the Guardians success.

[Spyne98]

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Originally Posted by Panther

Politics have nothing to do with this. That's a whack and common 2017 excuse. How about instead of putting people down because they don't know about something, you help build them up by pointing them in the right direction. We're all here because we have a common hobby. Marvel Legends and other figures are what we love and spend our money on. No one comes here to be put down because they don't know the 100 percent full details of an Arc. Help them out and maybe they just might see things a little different.

Hell yeah man! Great way to put it. As another NY guy, I'm all for being blunt, but you can have some tact too.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by ariellagunas

I'm surprised Marvel have not pushed the Starjammers more, specially after the Guardians success.

Ch'od out of Abomination, it's too easy.

[hasbroherofan]

Double

[hasbroherofan]

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Originally Posted by Parademon1

I'm a NYer, we're blunt. That's how we roll. No lefty snowflake here.

Nah, I'm from New York and am perfectly capable of having discussions here without being a jerk to people. That's just you being annoying.

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Originally Posted by Tomax

went to TRU yesterdy and saw Blade but i dont want him, i prefer the movie version.

Whereabouts was the TRU you visited?

[donmeca2020]

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Originally Posted by Panther

Politics have nothing to do with this. That's a whack and common 2017 excuse. How about instead of putting people down because they don't know about something, you help build them up by pointing them in the right direction. We're all here because we have a common hobby. Marvel Legends and other figures are what we love and spend our money on. No one comes here to be put down because they don't know the 100 percent full details of an Arc. Help them out and maybe they just might see things a little different.

I take no offense in what he said... he's older guy, former military and im quite sure he hasn't read a comic since the 70s himself...

I can easily post a pic of all my long boxes and slabs, however i won't.

No reason for anyone to get bent out of shape.

[Parademon1]

Yeah, you're right, Planet Hulk/WW Hulk took place in the 70s. Yeppers. FYI, I quit collecting comics soon after that due to the price increase & the BS PC turn that comics took soon after that as well. And I haven't cursed anyone nor used profanity in my comments but some internet tough guy calls me a dick & it's all good. Gotta love these keyboard commandos.

[Spyne98]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Ch'od out of Abomination, it's too easy.

Totally have that sitting on my custom shelf. Really just gotta do some sculpting on the face.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by ariellagunas

Yeah, those ones stick out the most. Somehow I prefer the ones that are not so obviously from the Legion, like the aforementioned Hussar and Warstar. But I'll be lying if I wouldn't buy an Oracle or Manta. Also the Avengers had a female Smasher, and Logan dressed as Fang, so those might get a chance someday.

I'm surprised Marvel have not pushed the Starjammers more, specially after the Guardians success.

Oh that's an easy one! For all that they have appeared in other corners of the marvel universe over the years, the Shi'ar are still primarily in the realm of X-men story lines (much like the Skrull are F4 and Kree are Avengers.) Up until recently over the last five years Marvel has actively avoiding pushing anything X-related. I'm sure they'd deny it but it's due to the antagonism over film rights. Which is why so many things have changed in origin retcons. Except Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are still Magneto's children andiwonthearotherwise.

[hasbroherofan]

Historically I think Marvel's had a tough time with books centered around alien protagonists since one of Marvel's hallmarks is having supposedly relatable characters (whether or not that's true in practice is YMMV of course).

Even the Guardians had a few human viewpoint characters, and their mainstream success is a very recent development.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan

Historically I think Marvel's had a tough time with books centered around alien protagonists since one of Marvel's hallmarks is having supposedly relatable characters (whether or not that's true in practice is YMMV of course).

Even the Guardians had a few human viewpoint characters, and their mainstream success is a very recent development.

I think it's all kind somewhat been a cycle of what's popular for whatever reasons at times, practically by decades. Spider-Man has been popular throughout of course. Avengers were in their prime in the 60's and mid 70's and took a back seat to the X-Men in the 80's and 90's, only to come into the fore again in the 00's and 10's. F4 had their heyday in the 60's and 70's too and has never really regained that. Daredevil and Hulk as popular as they are have never been a top billing the same way other corners of the MU have, they've always taken at least 3rd or even 4th billing compared to others, and Dr. Strange, Ghost Rider and many other solo heroes even less than that. GOTG remained obscure until the late 00's and didn't really hit it big until the movie, and now they're way up there right behind Avengers.

Maybe one day the door opened by GOTG will allow more properties to flourish next decade, I think Marvel is pretty much set on trying to determine what's popular (by that I mean what they're pushing) for the rest of this decade. I think one of the reasons Inhumans didn't really succeed (so far) is that it's too many corners Marvel is trying to push at once. Something was bound to not be a runaway success at some point.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Ch'od out of Abomination, it's too easy.

Poor bastard has one of the worst character names....right beside gijoe charcater skidmark. Haha

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Oh that's an easy one! For all that they have appeared in other corners of the marvel universe over the years, the Shi'ar are still primarily in the realm of X-men story lines (much like the Skrull are F4 and Kree are Avengers.) Up until recently over the last five years Marvel has actively avoiding pushing anything X-related. I'm sure they'd deny it but it's due to the antagonism over film rights. Which is why so many things have changed in origin retcons. Except Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are still Magneto's children andiwonthearotherwise.

They're now the kids of........THE WHIZZER HAHAHAHAHAH! ( couldn't resist saying whizzer )

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

They're now the kids of........THE WHIZZER HAHAHAHAHAH! ( couldn't resist saying whizzer )

Lies! LOL

Seriously I'm really fine with a lot of retcons but that one was just....really irritating considering the obvious reason for it was film rights so they wouldn't have to contend with the whole mutant issue. Plus how it just makes so many back stories make no sense, more so with Quicksilver than Wanda even.

[hasbroherofan]

They seem to be easing off that stance to some degree, which is good for us at least. One X-Men wave a year (two with Deadpool though I don't think Deadpool is gonna be an annual thing) is better than nothing.

[TheBlueMarvel]

Personally, I believe it has everything to do with strength of story-telling and character development, as it pertains to GotG's success, despite the title's other worldly cast of characters. In my opinion, it's not about industry trends or fan temperaments as it regards how much they identify (or don't, for that matter) with 'human' subjects.

There's a history of anthropomorphized characters finding success within Marvel's stable and beyond. Howard the Duck and Rocket Raccoon found fans, and while they don't represent the traditional 'alien' (especially in the case of Howard), corollaries can be easily made. Marvel's Epic line had popular titles in the 80's with both Dreadstar and Alien Legion. While Vanth, the main character of Dreadstar, was indeed a human (as was Willow), the comic's most well regarded personalities were Oedi (of an engineered cat-person race) and Skeevo (a purple hued alien) - let's not overlook my personal favorite, the one, the only, Syzygy Darlock - who was basically a zombie wizard...the things I like make most people uncomfortable. Torie, Alien Legion's singular 'true' human character, wasn't remotely the focus of the title's narrative. Jugger Grimrod (a Wolverine-like character) and Major Sarigar (the unit's badass snake-man leader) were firmly the fan-favorites of the book.

Outside of Marvel: TMNT, Bucky O'Hare, Usagi Yojimbo, Savage Dragon, Pitt, and The Maxx are all non-traditional successes. Again not all are 'aliens,' but ostensibly, they may as well be. Not to mention, the only comic to ever win a Pulitzer was Maus - plenty of people were able to relate to yet one more well written anthropomorphized protagonist. Additionally, Crossgen's Negation remains one of the best space-epics and overall comic runs I've read in years. While Obregon Kaine (one of my all-time favorite comic leaders) was a human, the cast was a treasure trove of alien races and cultures...each equally as fascinating as the one previously introduced.

Compelling narratives are what allow readers to relate to characters. Not their aesthetic features, race, gender, or sexual orientation. Alien Legion captured the grit, peril, triumph of victory, and deep loss of war (much like Negation) all of which serving to assist readers to find the 'threads of humanity' in non-human players. As long as writers commit in earnest to their task of breathing life into a title, almost anything can garner critical acclaim and fan-celebration.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Lies! LOL

Seriously I'm really fine with a lot of retcons but that one was just....really irritating considering the obvious reason for it was film rights so they wouldn't have to contend with the whole mutant issue. Plus how it just makes so many back stories make no sense, more so with Quicksilver than Wanda even.

Hey at least they're not banging.....yet ( knowing what a sore loser bendis is hes trying to turn 616 into his failed ult. Verse...blech )

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Personally, I believe it has everything to do with strength of story-telling and character development, as it pertains to GotG's success, despite the title's other worldly cast of characters. In my opinion, it's not about industry trends or fan temperaments as it regards how much they identify (or don't, for that matter) with 'human' subjects.

There's a history of anthropomorphized characters finding success within Marvel's stable and beyond. Howard the Duck and Rocket Raccoon found fans, and while they don't represent the traditional 'alien' (especially in the case of Howard), corollaries can be easily made. Marvel's Epic line had popular titles in the 80's with both Dreadstar and Alien Legion. While Vanth, the main character of Dreadstar, was indeed a human (as was Willow), the comic's most well regarded personalities were Oedi (of an engineered cat-person race) and Skeevo (a purple hued alien) - let's not overlook my personal favorite, the one, the only, Syzygy Darlock - who was basically a zombie wizard...the things I like make most people uncomfortable. Torie, Alien Legion's singular 'true' human character, wasn't remotely the focus of the title's narrative. Jugger Grimrod (a Wolverine-like character) and Major Sarigar (the unit's badass snake-man leader) were firmly the fan-favorites of the book.

Outside of Marvel: TMNT, Bucky O'Hare, Usagi Yojimbo, Savage Dragon, Pitt, and The Maxx are all non-traditional successes. Again not all are 'aliens,' but ostensibly, they may as well be. Not to mention, the only comic to ever win a Pulitzer was Maus - plenty of people were able to relate to yet one more well written anthropomorphized protagonist. Additionally, Crossgen's Negation remains one of the best space-epics and overall comic runs I've read in years. While Obregon Kaine (one of my all-time favorite comic leaders) was a human, the cast was a treasure trove of alien races and cultures...each equally as fascinating as the one previously introduced.

Compelling narratives are what allow readers to relate to characters. Not their aesthetic features, race, gender, or sexual orientation. Alien Legion captured the grit, peril, triumph of victory, and deep loss of war (much like Negation) all of which serving to assist readers to find the 'threads of humanity' in non-human player. As long as a writers commit in earnest to their task of breathing life into a title, almost anything can garner critical acclaim and fan-celebration.

Aaaannnndddd.... Lets not forget that Kirk tapped every kinda alien there was.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

Aaaannnndddd.... Lets not forget that Kirk tapped every kinda alien there was.

Oh, without a doubt....Kirk's the man! Han's a ham!

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Oh, without a doubt....Kirk's the man! Han's a ham!

Well technically han would be a shishkabob now haha

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

Well technically han would be a shishkabob now haha

HahahA! Yeah! Han Solo's dead! So cool! LOL

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

HahahA! Yeah! Han Solo's dead! So cool! LOL

He CCCCCCOOOUUULLLLDD Just be a clone and the real han changed his face and is still alive.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Nitelife

He CCCCCCOOOUUULLLLDD Just be a clone and the real han changed his face and is still alive.

Haha! Yeah, maybe...but he's likely dead as he deserves to be! HAHAHa!

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Haha! Yeah, maybe...but he's likely dead as he deserves to be! HAHAHa!

Oh no you didn't!!

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

Oh no you didn't!!

...you know I'm messin' around!