[redfox]

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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder

It does. The alt head looks a little off (at least to me) on the Wolverine body, but it's now my default head for her X-Force figure.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. From what I've seen, the alt. head on the Wolverine body kinda makes the head appear to double in size and gives her the appearance of not having a neck.

I plan to do the swap, too. Don't really have any other X-force themed figures for her to stand with at the moment, so the masked head isn't really doing anything for me. Also, the unmasked head will pretty much complete her look from the X-23 solo comic that was released right after her stint in X-force. As simple as it was, I always liked that look.

[Dr Kain]

Well this sucks. My Target got the Apocalypse wave sometime over the weekend (the one weekend I don't go there) because they had Wolverine and Gladiator.



Gladiator's paint job was worse than the one I already have though, which sucks.

Hopefully I can find a new Storm, Psylocke and Multiple Man soon so I can finally have the wave done and over with. Oh, I hope I find the black haired Psylocke. I mean yeah, her hair is supposed to be purple, but her suit was a flat light blue instead of a metallic midnight blue in the issues I read.

The Wolverine figure is cool, but is it just mine, or are his claws looser than the previous iterations? I can't seem to get the claws to stay in place because they wobble around.

[Jester]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Or....maybe some of us have felt that Marvel has been releasing the same movie over and over since Iron Man 3, just with different characters, and would like to see something a bit different in approach. Despite the backlash against them, I think DC has killed Marvel in this regard. Man of Steel and BvS were not masterpieces by any regard, but they were entertaining (for me anyways) because I liked the darker take that Snyder had on them. Wonder Woman was also terrific, bad CGI villain and all. Then Whedon came in and rubbed his snarky, Gillmore Girls-esque musk all over Justice League and killed off whatever work Snyder put into it, turning it into a parody of (insert Marvel film here.) It was quite disappointing.

I've become really annoyed by the hype each and every film Marvel puts out, but not because it's "cool to hate," but because they make every film see like something new and epic is bound to happen, only for the film to dissolve into the same formula of ill-timed, sarcastic humor and CGI climaxes that have varying degrees of life or lifelessness. Add to that the fact that the hype these movies receive these days have made it nearly impossible to avoid spoilers and such, as everyone from Rolling Stone to the random A-hole on Facebook is letting you know about the big plot twist, who dies, or the surprise cameo, often hours or even days before the film ever hits theaters.

Amen.

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

I'm like the only guy I know who really liked Apocalypse.

That’s nothing: my favourite X-Men movie (the only one I actually like, as a matter of fact) is X3.

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Originally Posted by DarkToyLord

I disliked the X-Men Apocalypse movie SOOOOOOOOO much.
SO much was wrong with it. I actually don't think I cared for ANYTHING in that movie. On on paper (and subsequently the big screen) that movie should have been EVERYTHING!!!
I don't even want to talk about it, nor did I ever want to see it again.

Didn't have much hope for it but girlfriend took me to see it. Spent the entire running time wishing Sentinels would kill every last mutant onscreen.

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Originally Posted by Phantomcrow

And FYI, Iceman has been gay in the comics for a while now. Every since the young x-men were pulled into the future (the All New X-men comic) years ago. His younger self came out and then the older Bobby realized he was hiding the whole time.

Nah, Jean just mind-f***** him into thinking it.

[Starlord67]

So anyway...when are the next slated Marvel Legends reveals? I mean im excited about Nighthawk but I really want to see some more X-men reveals

[Brownfinger]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Or....maybe some of us have felt that Marvel has been releasing the same movie over and over since Iron Man 3, just with different characters

I'm not sure I understand where this is coming from, and I very much want to. I get it if you don't like them, and to each his own, but they've taken great pains to ensure the precise opposite of what you're alleging. Civil War and Guardians of the Galaxy and Black Panther are the same movie, really?
I wonder if this opinion comes from the fact that several of the characters cross over and are consistently themselves? Robert Downey chews up the scenery and I get why some people may not appreciate the fact that the camera loves him. I'm obscenely pleased that those people are a very small minority, though. But if that's the case, I get what you'd be saying, there.

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Despite the backlash against them, I think DC has killed Marvel in this regard. Man of Steel and BvS were not masterpieces by any regard, but they were entertaining (for me anyways) because I liked the darker take that Snyder had on them.

I'm going to help you out. When highlighting the quality of DC's movies, Batman vs. Superman belongs nowhere near that paragraph. It was inane garbage by every objective measure.
Wonder Woman was pretty good, I'm surprised to see you say that you didn't like Justice League because that would also be an adequate example to use here. So anything with humor is bad, is what I'm taking away from what you're saying. I can respect the opinion of those who don't want it in their superhero movies, but people have to relate to how absurd these things are on some level. That's why DC is attempting to move away from a lot of the clenched teeth grimdark edgelord circle jerk stuff into lighter fare, because you're gonna lose the general audience with it. And I think they'll be better off for it. The reviews reflect that, the money reflects that. These things have to be self-aware.
And again, if you don't personally enjoy Marvel's approach, that's totally fair. I don't think they're really the same movies unless they're direct sequels, but you like what you like and I see a lot of dudes on this forum that are kinda generally angry about Marvel's movies. But you are the first person I have ever seen or heard say that DC "kills Marvel" with its approach in Batman vs Superman.
There is not enough booze in the world to move me towards that kind of thinking.

[Bo Ttef]

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Originally Posted by DarthKamen

I thought that was one of the best scenes in the film....

Magneto's wrath was fantastic... I mean, c'mon... Michael Fassbender is amazing... but that scene... lol... the police officer accidentally lets go of the string and shoots an arrow through his daughter AND wife... that was just sooo terrible... ha... I think i actually lol'd at that in the theater.

[Archangel]

Anyone own a Bor figure from the SDCC set? I’m thinking about getting one off EBay, but I saw a review where the legs are super loose. Is he worth owning?

[Dolemite]

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Originally Posted by Jester

my favourite X-Men movie (the only one I actually like, as a matter of fact) is X3.

gross

[Tim]

Lol

[DarthKamen]

I liked X3 too...

[lordbest]

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Anyone own a Bor figure from the SDCC set? I’m thinking about getting one off EBay, but I saw a review where the legs are super loose. Is he worth owning?

Mine is packed away right now so I can't check but I don't remember it having loose legs. I'm very happy with it personally. It's a very big, impressive looking and detailed figure.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Starlord67

So anyway...when are the next slated Marvel Legends reveals? I mean im excited about Nighthawk but I really want to see some more X-men reveals

No idea, but I think we are done with releases for the rest of the year. At least unless something ships out the week before New Years.

I'm still hoping Hasbro is going to show us a classic Vulture for the Kingpin wave, but I think they already showed off all 7 figures.

[SymbiSpidey]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

No idea, but I think we are done with releases for the rest of the year. At least unless something ships out the week before New Years.

I'm still hoping Hasbro is going to show us a classic Vulture for the Kingpin wave, but I think they already showed off all 7 figures.

I think only four so far.


Silver Sable
Black Cat
Red Goblin
New Symbiote Spider-Man


I want to assume that the other 3 figures might be MCU related, but last year, they did an all comic wave before doing the MCU-centric wave, so that might be the case next year.

I think the next con Hasbro is appearing at will be on the 24th of this month so we'll probably see more reveals then.

[SymbiSpidey]

Oh man, I just remembered that Marvel Legends Hulkbuster wave and wow....that might have been the worst Legends wave of the modern era lol. I would say it was worth it to get that Hulkbuster, but now we have an even better version that's out now.

[Penguino]

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Anyone own a Bor figure from the SDCC set? I’m thinking about getting one off EBay, but I saw a review where the legs are super loose. Is he worth owning?

I might be wrong but I think he reuses parts from Terrax/Dormammu. My Bor has no such issues. Really dig it, definitely reminds me of Skyrim a lot too.

[faelon]

So got some time with my full X-Men Apocalypse wave this afternoon to get an impression of them. Here's how they shake out and fall in my rankings, etc.

1. Storm - Just a great figure. Perfect Punk StormThe outfit is dead on. Everything about her looks and moves naturally. Great face sculpt. Great paint. I kinda like the new soft effect pieces.

2. Tiger Stripe Wolverine - I love Wolvie and my only Tiger Stripe was the Revoltech, which is kind of oddly stylized. It is great to get a nice clean Wolverine. I love how the figure moves. I love that you can get hinm in his claws out arms back pose. Perfect. Only negative is the claws tend to wobble and pop out.

3. Madrox the Multiple Man - I wasn't expecting to like this guy. But damn!. The coat is nice and soft. Minimal hindering of movement. The three heads give him lots of emotion and charm. He's going to find his way into Photo projects. And now I understand why people want multiples of him.

4. Magneto - I know I will be booed. But I really like this Magneto. It isn't without flaws. But that bare head makes up for a ton of them. I prefer his classic outfit. But this one is acceptable and recognizable. I hate the helmeted head.

5. Sabertooth - He's great. Just not spectacular. Face sculpt is decent (although my lower jaw falls off) Articulation is good. He just lacks something that the others all have and I am not sure what. I would expect Sabertooth to grab my eye more than this one does. There is nothing wrong with him, besides wonky jaw. It's me.

6. Psylocke - Once again a nice figure. And would rank higher in any other wave. But the face doesn't sell it to me. Too emotionless. Too generic. She poses about as well as a female ML can. (Yeah looking forward to the Revoltech) She's a good solid dependable Action figure of a comic character. She has 3 accessories in glowy pink. She looks much more like a toy than Storm does. Storm looks like a detailed model of a character. Almost a statue. Psylocke looks like a standard toy Action Figure. And it's mostly in the face sculpt. Plus those flat spandex tank style leotard suits never do action figures any favors.

7. Gladiator - Meh! He's ok. He looks quite nice. Very colorful. Lots of colors. Yes colorful. Like I said... meh. Into the bag of misfit toys he goes unless I come up with some really inspired Photo project.

8. Apocalpse BAF - Everyone has been praising how great this BAF is, so my expectations were really high... and man were they not met. It looks gorgeous. To a point. I find mine has some areas of swirly marbled blue plastic. The knees feel weak and really wobbly side to side. My ab joint is insanely loose almost floppy. The annoying cables should have been an inch shorter on each one. His overall articulation is appallingly limited. On par with the Iron Monger. But he does look good, and that face sculpt is gorgeous. add to the wish list, he really needed alternate hands. Or at least one open hands. He needs something for monologing. A master villain doesn't monolog with clenched fists.

Overall it might be the best Wave series we have gotten in awhile when taken as a whole. No bad figures. A nice classic and wanted villain BAF. The most obscure and questionable one was Gladiator. It's on par with or slightly better than the Sasquatch and Man Thing waves, and head and shoulders beyond anything else in recent menory. With the added bonus that it looks like they pulled this off twice back to back with the Sauron wave.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Anyone own a Bor figure from the SDCC set? I’m thinking about getting one off EBay, but I saw a review where the legs are super loose. Is he worth owning?

I like him alot. Hes a pretty impressive figure and hes tall. I’d say get him, you wont regret it.

[Spyne98]

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Anyone own a Bor figure from the SDCC set? I’m thinking about getting one off EBay, but I saw a review where the legs are super l oose. Is he worth owning?

I have one. His legs are a little loose. But if he’s just going to stand on your shelf I think it’ll be fine. Overall I think he is an impressive figure.

[Byrnes]

Yep, what everyone else said on Bor. Awesome figure. No problems with mine.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by faelon

The annoying cables should have been an inch shorter on each one.

I disagree. It's nice that we have finally have Apocalypse with cables that are't so short they gimped the ability to move his arms around in any direction. Just look at Warlock from last year. His cables are too short.

[Captain Nash]

I'm hoping in the next couple of years we see some modern updates to X-characters especially in light of some upcoming changes. SOrry to be vague. I wanted to spell it out in spoilers but the spoiler tag messed up (Okay, I didn't do it right and can't figure out how to) and I don't want to spoil said plot points.

[kenm2474]

Tank Top Wolverine Upgrade so far......
Metal Claws Dog Tags and Hat next. Then His Bike.
By: Mint Condition Customs

[Trivial Psychic]

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Originally Posted by Brownfinger

I'm not sure I understand where this is coming from, and I very much want to. I get it if you don't like them, and to each his own, but they've taken great pains to ensure the precise opposite of what you're alleging. Civil War and Guardians of the Galaxy and Black Panther are the same movie, really?
I wonder if this opinion comes from the fact that several of the characters cross over and are consistently themselves? Robert Downey chews up the scenery and I get why some people may not appreciate the fact that the camera loves him. I'm obscenely pleased that those people are a very small minority, though. But if that's the case, I get what you'd be saying, there.

Iron Man 3: Hero has his powers, has fall from grace and loses his powers, meets sidekick(s) who are ultimately smarter, wiser and funnier than they are. Snark, snark, snark, (OH...the jokes!) Laughs galore and a general lack of concern for the gravity of the situation from everyone. World might be ending, but YOLO right? Hero gains back their power(s) in a moment of clarity. Spotty antagonist development where their motives are fuzzy, or are curbed by some plot twist revealing the "REAL villain," forcing you to try and understand their motives in the final ten minutes of the film. CG final battle with varying degrees of success in terms of either looking amazing or looking like a video game, and a villain often killed off before he really had a chance to shine or impact.

Yes....even Black Panther (which I honestly felt was underwhelming) fell into this formula. Not every film Marvel has made has fell into this pattern (the first Ant-Man, GotG and Civil War for example) but several of Marvel's films have, to the point where many of the films have become boring and predictable. I get that they are supposed to be loud, fun, summer blockbusters meant to tie up neatly in two hours, but a change of pace would be greatly appreciated. How to come about that though, I'm not exactly sure. Something more straight laced as some of Fox's X-films perhaps? Who knows.

Before it comes up, yes...I also get that many of the these story arch patterns also the archetype to the stories of heroes dating all the way back to the fables greek heroes and the bible. Something about the way that Marvel presents them just bugs me. I'll still trudge through them, but most of them become one timers or I end up forgetting what happened hours later because there was little to anything that really left a mark.

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Originally Posted by Brownfinger

I'm going to help you out. When highlighting the quality of DC's movies, Batman vs. Superman belongs nowhere near that paragraph. It was inane garbage by every objective measure.
Wonder Woman was pretty good, I'm surprised to see you say that you didn't like Justice League because that would also be an adequate example to use here. So anything with humor is bad, is what I'm taking away from what you're saying. I can respect the opinion of those who don't want it in their superhero movies, but people have to relate to how absurd these things are on some level. That's why DC is attempting to move away from a lot of the clenched teeth grimdark edgelord circle jerk stuff into lighter fare, because you're gonna lose the general audience with it. And I think they'll be better off for it. The reviews reflect that, the money reflects that. These things have to be self-aware.
And again, if you don't personally enjoy Marvel's approach, that's totally fair. I don't think they're really the same movies unless they're direct sequels, but you like what you like and I see a lot of dudes on this forum that are kinda generally angry about Marvel's movies. But you are the first person I have ever seen or heard say that DC "kills Marvel" with its approach in Batman vs Superman.
There is not enough booze in the world to move me towards that kind of thinking.

When I said "killing Marvel" I guess I meant in developing their characters and universe into what they wanted it to be, (although, admittedly, that seems to be in flux now for DC.) Although people slammed the "lack of fun" in Man of Steel, it was great to see for the first time the actual struggles Superman dealt with on a daily basis of having all that power, and yet having to maintain responsibility with it. He could have killed his bullies with a flick of his finger, yet he constantly had to move on, had to endure it, out of responsibility to his both his moralities and to his family. Although many shouted to the heavens that "Superman doesn't kill!," when it finally came time to do the deed, Clark was left with a supremely difficult choice, to kill off the last remaining remaining member (and final chance to learn more) of his home world, or to serve the needs of the many that would be killed on his adopted homeworld if he didn't commit to this sacrifice. It was the first time I had ever seen this kind of take on Superman, and it stuck with me, as it was was something I never thought about before, but suddenly had to. Batman and Wonder Woman were very much the same way. Diablo in Suicide squad (a movie I hated) was a humbling surprise as well. The only characters Marvel wise in the film verse (cause I consider the film and Netflix verses to be very much seperated) with this same kind of deeper development in my opinion has been Captain America and Black Panther. I'd say Iron Man, but he's just as much the same self righteous A-hole in the current films as he was in the first.

The Netflix Marvel characters don't quite suffer from the same development issues, but that's because they have a longer format (not to mention a longer leash) to really get into it. It's one of the reasons why I enjoy the shows much more than the movies.

Getting back to Justice League...

Justice League bothered me really on two fronts, the stupid motiveless villain (MOTHER!!!) and the sudden change of tone from Snyder verse into Wheedon's snarky verse. It's really jarring. You can almost tell who shot what. We start off with an A-hole Aquaman who's suddenly whooping it up with his surfer bro attitude out of nowhere. A grim and very serious Batman who now suddenly can't help but crack one liners every chance he gets like he's in a Schumacher film. The attempts at humor often seemed so forced and out of left field that they threw off whatever momentum that Snyder had tried to build, turning what started as a serious film (if we can can call comic films that...) into a music video.

That's not to say I don't love a laugh in my comic films though. Ezra Miller's portrayal of the timid and semi aloof Flash was one of my favorite parts of Justice League, and he stole every scene he was in. Wonder Woman had some great comedic scenes as Diana tries to integrate into the world and the role women played circa World War I. Guardians was a pleasant surprise, and Ant-Man did it really good as well. Homecoming had some great parts as well, and I like what I've seen out of Shazam so far. Going back, the original Blade films have some of the most laugh out loud (and bad ass) moments of all time in the comic film genre.

I can go further into it, but I've made this post long enough and don't want to derail the thread anymore with movie talk that I already have. I'm open to PM discussion though should anyone want.

TL/DR: Comic book film fatigue can be experienced by otherwise rational people if all the films start to feel the same.

[hasbroherofan]

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Originally Posted by Brownfinger

I'm going to help you out. When highlighting the quality of DC's movies, Batman vs. Superman belongs nowhere near that paragraph. It was inane garbage by every objective measure.

Yeah. I am honestly so glad that Snyder is on the outs and that they have more competent people helming the upcoming films. I'm really looking forward to Aquaman and Shazam.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Yes....even Black Panther (which I honestly felt was underwhelming) fell into this formula. Not every film Marvel has made has fell into this pattern (the first Ant-Man, GotG and Civil War for example) but several of Marvel's films have, to the point where many of the films have become boring and predictable. I get that they are supposed to be loud, fun, summer blockbusters meant to tie up neatly in two hours, but a change of pace would be greatly appreciated. How to come about that though, I'm not exactly sure. Something more straight laced as some of Fox's X-films perhaps? Who knows.

That is just comic books in a nutshell though. Of course the hero is going to win out in the end, that is the entire point. Hell, look at how upset people got for Infinity War ending with Thanos' victory. People can't handle a movie where the heroes don't win.

Also, as I discussed earlier, they aren't all the same. The Winter Soldier is a political thriller. Civil War and Black Panther are spy thrillers. Spider-Man Homecoming is a coming of age story. Guardians of the Galaxy is a space opera. Ant-Man is a heist film. They might contain the super hero formula, but if you are only looking at the movies for the super hero format, you are doing them a disservice.

Sure, Iron Man and Doctor Strange follow the same path, but the characters themselves are so well written and acted that it doesn't matter.

Also, I don't agree with you at all on Ezra Miller. The dude has clearly never read a single Flash comic in his life nor has he ever watched a marathon to see how people actually run. Barry is not some awkward shut in with anxiety issues! God damn, learn how your character is supposed to act before you play them!!!

Now I am looking forward to Captain Marvel (Shazam) as it looks fun outside of emo Billy. Not so much on Aquaman, which looks to be just more of the same. Can they drop the hobo look already?