[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Plus why shoehorn him into an antman villian....he was primarily an ff baddie.

And that blue i believe is part of his helmet not his actual face.

Kang is an Avengers villain first and foremost, he has interactions with the FF but far and away the bulk of his stories are all in Avengers books. Even his most explored youth/origin as Iron Lad has nothing to do with the FF. His alternate persona (Rama-Tut) was a FF villain but that persona wasn't long-lasting and eventually became another Kang.

Yeah the blue face is a part of his helmet, it's some kind of weird mask that moves with his face kind of like Destro from GI Joe.

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Cassie is slated for antman 3? Damn scott didnt waste any time with hope.

Cassie was in the first two Ant-Man movies and then in Endgame, although she wasn't snapped away so she grew up a bit. Therefor she is now more appropriately aged to become Stature if they so choose.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan

https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status...40788097490944

Wonder if Hasbro will finally do an updated Kang now (prior to the inevitable movie one, of course).

I sure hope that's not the case. I have zero problems with changing the race of characters (for the most part). But Kang should be a major villain. I know Doom will probably be the next "big bad" of the MCU plans but honestly I'd rather it be Kang. Not that the Ant-Man movies are bad, but it feels like a waste of a great character to put him in a relatively smaller movie. Of course they could always tie him in to other movies later, like they did with many other characters.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

I sure hope that's not the case. I have zero problems with changing the race of characters (for the most part). But Kang should be a major villain. I know Doom will probably be the next "big bad" of the MCU plans but honestly I'd rather it be Kang. Not that the Ant-Man movies are bad, but it feels like a waste of a great character to put him in a relatively smaller movie. Of course they could always tie him in to other movies later, like they did with many other characters.

I doubt Kang's presence in Ant-Man 3 would be as the main villain. It's notable that most MCU characters are quite weaker than their comic counterparts but even then reducing Kang to just be the villain for these two heroes would be a big stretch. I'd hope his role is comparable to Thanos' appearance in the first GotG movie, a looming threat for later.

[hasbroherofan]

Yes Kang, like Doom is someone I'd expect to see in multiple movies.

[Nimrod]

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Originally Posted by omega145

I'm digging the updated Sunspot effects and the added fire effects for Pyro. Very cool minor tweaks that give the characters more life.

Nimrod is a cool character but the Legends figure to me just looks too much like a childs over plasticky toy no matter how many pictures I see of it.

Cool action shots Nimrod! You've got most of the posing and use of props down so adjust the lighting/exposure and those would be some really good shots!

Thanks. I don't have a pro camera so unfortunately my pics don't come out like the pics that the pros from this site take. I do try to adjust the lighting, I guess I'm not adjusting them correctly.

[hasbroherofan]

[Robb]

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan

So you were able to find the running change ? Man you are lucky.

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[Veronica Mars]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Cassie is slated for antman 3? Damn scott didnt waste any time with hope.

Cassie was in the first 2 movies and Endgame. Supposedly Evangeline Lilly was never intended to be the female lead in Ant Man 3

Also I hope they don't recast T'Challa

[MeLikeJinx]

Cassie was the only thing that freaked me out in Endgame. I remember her being this tiny little kid in Antman and then when Scott Lang sees her again in Endgame she's huge... in my brain she is like the only person that visibly aged in the MCU movies.

[omega145]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

I have yet to see marvel dc etc change a female or black or latino to caucasian. If it folds one way it needs to fold the opposite way too. Fair is fair. i mean hey maybe we will get a caucasian bp or caucasian photon.

Seriously? Just let writers, directors, producers make those decisions and go along for the ride. It gets tiring hearing the community bitching about gender/race changing and diversity.

The entire Marvel universe was created by mostly white men in the image of themselves and those in majority power. Black Panther wasn't created until 1966. Falcon not until 1969. Luke Cage not until 1972. Shang Chi, 1973. It took decades for Marvel to create characters that were non-white and somehow important to comic books.

Representation is important hence why characters are shaped the way how they are in films. This is a thread about Marvel Legends and certain people love bringing in their biased views on diversity into every topic/forum thread. I see this type of nonsense in every forum I am in. Leave your ignorance at home.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by omega145

Seriously? Just let writers, directors, producers make those decisions and go along for the ride. It gets tiring hearing the community bitching about gender/race changing and diversity.

The entire Marvel universe was created by mostly white men in the image of themselves and those in majority power. Black Panther wasn't created until 1966. Falcon not until 1969. Luke Cage not until 1972. Shang Chi, 1973. It took decades for Marvel to create characters that were non-white and somehow important to comic books.

Representation is important hence why characters are shaped the way how they are in films. This is a thread about Marvel Legends and certain people love bringing in their biased views on diversity into every topic/forum thread. I see this type of nonsense in every forum I am in. Leave your ignorance at home.

See to me the race/ gender swapping bothers me for two main reasons.....

1). Is its studios/writers being cheap and lazy. If they TRULY were serious about diversity they wouldn't be ruining pre established characters they would come up with NEW ones to add to roster or bolster formerly d list side characters ( like falcon ) into a mainstream role. This goes for all types ( homosexual, minority etc. ).

2). It shows a true lack of unoriginal thought process by todays “talent.” There is a plethora of under utilized Characters of ALL KINDS out there that could be utilized but they choose to rooster whats already been established to give the illusion of “Yes we care”-ism. Even in comics it happens ( yes i know it has been going on forever and a day ) but its gotten worse in the last 20 years. There seems to be absolutely no real original ideas any more just rehashing and recycling they same tired Plots etc.

Then it translates into toys that stagnate and dont move.

Representation may be important but not at the expense of what is. They need to come up with new characters and new plots. And yes i am serious.....if its okay to change things one way then it also needs to flow the opposite way otherwise it is unfair to both sides.

[omega145]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

See to me the race/ gender swapping bothers me for two main reasons.....

1). Is its studios/writers being cheap and lazy. If they TRULY were serious about diversity they wouldn't be ruining pre established characters they would come up with NEW ones to add to roster or bolster formerly d list side characters ( like falcon ) into a mainstream role. This goes for all types ( homosexual, minority etc. ).

Ruining? I don't see how Miles Morales ruined Spiderman or how Kamala Khan ruined Ms. Marvel. I think thats more about your perception than reality.

2). It shows a true lack of unoriginal thought process by todays “talent.” There is a plethora of under utilized Characters of ALL KINDS out there that could be utilized but they choose to rooster whats already been established to give the illusion of “Yes we care”-ism. Even in comics it happens ( yes i know it has been going on forever and a day ) but its gotten worse in the last 20 years. There seems to be absolutely no real original ideas any more just rehashing and recycling they same tired Plots etc.

Why do you think mainstream characters are changed? Because people become familiar with a character and it is much harder to get people to care about newly created characters. Much easier to get an attachment to an already existing mainstream character.

Then it translates into toys that stagnate and dont move.

You mean like the 10 Iron Mans and 10 Spidermans that are always remade? I guess thats much better than the newer redesigned characters

Representation may be important but not at the expense of what is.
Are you sure about that? Ask that to those who were so underrepresented for so many years...
They need to come up with new characters and new plots. And yes i am serious.....if its okay to change things one way then it also needs to flow the opposite way otherwise it is unfair to both sides.
I am all for new characters and plots but i'm also not bothered by race/gender swapping because I know how important it is and no, swapping a Spanish or black character to a white character is not the same. Last I checked, white characters have been overwhelming in comics and media for decades. Swapping Latino, Asian, and black characters to white would limit those numbers even more.

See responses above....can we go back to talking Legends now or are we going to keep harping on how upset you are over a black man playing a blue faced villain?

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by omega145

See responses above....can we go back to talking Legends now or are we going to keep harping on how upset you are over a black man playing a blue faced villain?

You obviously don’t get the point so its useless trying to make it to you. I shall leave you with your hypocritical views, And its not blue face its a blue facePLATE.

Saw the Starburst Iron man and.....yeesh. Hasbro needs to stop using that metallicy white plastic for figures. It suffered the same discoloration in package as the deadly origins widow.

[usernamedustin]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

You obviously don’t get the point so its useless trying to make it to you. I shall leave you with your hypocritical views, And its not blue face its a blue facePLATE.

Saw the Starburst Iron man and.....yeesh. Hasbro needs to stop using that metallicy white plastic for figures. It suffered the same discoloration in package as the deadly origins widow.

Exactly. It's a blue facePLATE. It doesn't really matter what the person under there looks like as long as they can portray the character well. You're basically alone on an island here. You should just give up trying to defend your position to anyone here. If you don't understand why people don't agree with you by now, there is no point trying further, but you should also see that no one agrees with you and you can stop posting about it.

I do know that I really want a ML Kang figure. Hopefully they will make a comic version in one of the MCU waves.

[hasbroherofan]

We're also possibly due a new Mandarin at some point ahead of the film. I wonder if the rumored retro Iron Man wave will have one.

[Bo Ttef]

Don't recall if Nimmy can fly or not but figured he just needs to get a better position on the Arcade X-Men shelf... just need Storm and a few Haslab Sentinels now!
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[Ultra Seven]

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan

We're also possibly due a new Mandarin at some point ahead of the film. I wonder if the rumored retro Iron Man wave will have one.

I’d love a new Mandarin. Would people prefer a soft-goods cloak or a hard plastic one? I personally would like soft-goods, as Mandarin needs to be able to sit, brooding, on a throne.

[TheBlueMarvel]

Nimrod flies...or hovers/glides...

About race and the depiction of fantasy based characters from comic books or otherwise...yeah, there are currently bigger problems in life to be worried about.

...again a Legends comic Kang/Immortus/Ironlad 3pk is well overdue.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by usernamedustin

Exactly. It's a blue facePLATE. It doesn't really matter what the person under there looks like as long as they can portray the character well. You're basically alone on an island here. You should just give up trying to defend your position to anyone here. If you don't understand why people don't agree with you by now, there is no point trying further, but you should also see that no one agrees with you and you can stop posting about it.

I do know that I really want a ML Kang figure. Hopefully they will make a comic version in one of the MCU waves.

Oh i know why. It just saddens me that Being a hypocrite is okay....amongst other sad things. Anywho saw the aoa apocalypse today. Is it just me or does he look a little more squat in person?

[Nimrod]

[QUOTE=usernamedustin;848335]Exactly. It's a blue facePLATE. It doesn't really matter what the person under there looks like as long as they can portray the character well. You're basically alone on an island here. You should just give up trying to defend your position to anyone here. If you don't understand why people don't agree with you by now, there is no point trying further, but you should also see that no one agrees with you and you can stop posting about it.

Don't assume that "no one agrees with him" cuz I totally do as well. The last time Marvel writers created a great group of diversified, all new, never before done characters w/o having to replace a white character while doing it was in 74' when the All new, all different X-Men were created. We got a Russian, an Irishman, a Japanese, a German, a Canadian an American Indian & last but not least, an African woman. All with brand new powers , origins & costumes. No ripoffs. Nowadays, it seems the writers at Marvel cannot come up with an original minority character w/o him or her just being a rip off or replacement for an already established white character. And if they do make up an original minority character, they tend to either not last long, get killed off or are lame characters.

[hasbroherofan]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

About race and the depiction of fantasy based characters from comic books or otherwise...yeah, there are currently bigger problems in life to be worried about.

Perfectly said.

The Venom wave seems to be shipping soon. People are already starting to get their online orders.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by hasbroherofan

Perfectly said.

The Venom wave seems to be shipping soon. People are already starting to get their online orders.

I didn’t notice it before but whats with the logarithmic symbol on carnages dome?

[Boy Blunder]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

I didn’t notice it before but whats with the logarithmic symbol on carnages dome?

It has to do with the recent storyline and the... god of symbiotes? I think? It was all pretty damn stupid aside from Saladin Ahmed's work in Miles' book. Just about the only saving grace.

[hasbroherofan]

Pulse has the old Collector and Grandmaster set up if anyone still needs 'em.
https://hasbropulse.com/products/has...action-figures