[Boy Blunder]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I really feel like people who love Tobey are doing so under nostalgia and not because he was a great Spider-Man. Don't get me wrong, he was a good Peter Parker (well, except when it came to showing the brilliant scientist side of Peter), but his Spider-Man was lackluster.

I am in full agreement. Specifically, he was a great 60s/70s-era, "nothing goes right for sadsack Parker" version.

Which, I think we can all agree, needed a change. That era is long gone.

[usernamedustin]

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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder

I am in full agreement. Specifically, he was a great 60s/70s-era, "nothing goes right for sadsack Parker" version.

Which, I think we can all agree, needed a change. That era is long gone.

Nailed it.

[Harbinger]

Anyone have the ironman starboost armor? Im trying to track sown 2.

[ludovicotek]

Heads up. BigBadToystore has the Dani Moonstar Walgreens exclusive up for pre-order.

[Archangel]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Anyone have the ironman starboost armor? Im trying to track sown 2.

Why so late to the party on that one?

[Black Arbor]

Liking Tobey as Spider-Man has nothing to do with nostalgia, at least for me. He was/ is the embodiment of the silver age Spidey, and had a quiet charm to boot! The movies hold up as well, because you can tell they were made with love, and not as a puzzle piece for a big movie tapestry like the MCU Spidey or Garfield's Spidey. I'd never tell people that like Godfather, Goodfellas, Clockwork Orange, Casablanca, etc... that they're being blinded by nostalgia, even though those movies do nothing for me haha

[JCarterVA]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Anyone have the ironman starboost armor? Im trying to track sown 2.

I saw 1 in person at Target 3 weeks ago and passed. It doesn't look cool enough to be an IM armor in the White they selected. It is flat and dull looking. I ordered the new blue gamerverse which looks a heck of a lot better.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Why so late to the party on that one?

Same reason i never found a baroness or cobra trooper.

[usernamedustin]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Same reason i never found a baroness or cobra trooper.

Because they are limited target exclusives? I didn't know starburst Iron Man was an exclusive.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by usernamedustin

Because they are limited target exclusives? I didn't know starburst Iron Man was an exclusive.

Partially. Also piss poor stocking/distribution and scalpers.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Boy Blunder

I am in full agreement. Specifically, he was a great 60s/70s-era, "nothing goes right for sadsack Parker" version.

Which, I think we can all agree, needed a change. That era is long gone.

I don't know. I'd say he was a better 80s version of Peter whereas Holland is easily the 60s version. Garfield was like the 2000s cool Peter. Though, Garfield did look closer to pulling off the high schooler bit than Maquire did. Tobey was too old for the high school schtick.

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Originally Posted by Black Arbor

Liking Tobey as Spider-Man has nothing to do with nostalgia, at least for me.

Maybe not you specifically, but there are many out there that think Tobey was the best because he was their first.

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He was/ is the embodiment of the silver age Spidey, and had a quiet charm to boot!

I will say they did embody elements of the Silver Age run even though as I said, I feel like Tobey was more 80s Peter.

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The movies hold up as well, because you can tell they were made with love, and not as a puzzle piece for a big movie tapestry like the MCU Spidey or Garfield's Spidey.

Well Amazing Spider-man 2 was utter horseshit, so that alone completely ruined Garfield.

However, Holland is by far closer to Stan Lee's Peter in personality, nerdiness, and science geek than Maquire and Garfield.

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I'd never tell people that like Godfather, Goodfellas, Clockwork Orange, Casablanca, etc... that they're being blinded by nostalgia, even though those movies do nothing for me haha

That's because all of those movies are utter perfection. I watced three of those for the first time in 2009 and The Godfather trilogy for the first time in 2013. Long after I reached adulthood, so there is no nostalgia for me to bank off on.

[Jester]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Yeah, I know, different view points can be pretty terrifying and necessitate nonsensical and cliched retorts.

As your response to my comments demonstrates. As I pointed out, you're pretty much indulging in a dictionary-perfect example of "First World Problems," attacking people who were, by the standards of the time, ardent liberals, doing ardently liberal things like presenting an integrated, international, interracial team of superheroes, because one character isn't as blandly, snooze-inducingly perfect as you want her to be.

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

You don't really strike me as someone that cares about 2nd, 3rd, or 4th world problems for that matter.

This from the guy who whines about Storm appearing "barefoot and topless" in an African tribal setting.

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Weren't you the one who suggested that Zazie Beetz being cast as Domino cost a stuntwoman her life then disappeared from the thread for months after being run out of here? With that kind of logic, it's just hard for me to take you seriously...

If you want to argue that the racial politics involved in Beetz's casting didn't contribute to the sequence of events that resulted in an inexperienced stuntwoman being killed because she was hired on the basis of her race rather than her suitability for the job, then you have no grounds to criticize anyone on the basis of "logic."

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Um... that was never retconned in, that was something Claremont did early on when he showed her working for Shadow King.

As for her backstory being stereotypical, frankly, it's fictional, so I don't care one bit. Not to mention she is such a well written character that she goes beyond the stereotypes. She's basically to Marvel what Apu is to The Simpsons. A well developed, fully fleshed out, strong character who overcomes the stereotypes by being well written.

"Stereotype" literally means a "true (solid/tangible/three-dimensional) impression" of a given thing.

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Originally Posted by sh002

I’ll be making these 2 figures like that.

Ha! I love it!

[SymbiSpidey]

Jamie Foxx confirmed that he was indeed playing Electro in MCU Spider-Man but said he won't be blue.

So it seems like it's a different version of the character, just with the same actor.

[redfox]

"Burn her. And slowly, so she doesn't forget how dying like this feels."*







*We need a Destiny so bad, now.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by SymbiSpidey

Jamie Foxx confirmed that he was indeed playing Electro in MCU Spider-Man but said he won't be blue.

So it seems like it's a different version of the character, just with the same actor.

Aww man...thats a shame.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Jester

As your response to my comments demonstrates. As I pointed out, you're pretty much indulging in a dictionary-perfect example of "First World Problems," attacking people who were, by the standards of the time, ardent liberals, doing ardently liberal things like presenting an integrated, international, interracial team of superheroes, because one character isn't as blandly, snooze-inducingly perfect as you want her to be.

I didn't respond to you with a cliché, so I'm not sure what you meant by that first bit. I also didn't know "first world problems" had an actual dictionary definition, as I can't find it in Oxford and Wiki and Urban Dictionary don't count for much more than gibberish. Go figure, here I thought it was just a silly toss away line people on the internet use when they feel threatened by something that challenges their worldview and/or a deflection used when someone is too lazy to commit thought to a presented concept/pondering. If you think what I wrote constitutes an attack (my goodness, what would you do if was really "attacking???"), maybe viewing liberals as "snowflakes" is yet one more in a long, long list of projections. Without getting into how you could possibly divine the intent/motivations of the the creative team in question as it pertains to that particular image (when you check you'll see that I fell short of that: "intentional, or not") - "Ardent liberals" by the standard of whom exactly? Daniel Patrick Moynihan? I don't expect you to get the reference, but hey, maybe you'll do some independent research of him, his views, and how the field (i.e. his own peers and history) came to regard his work and ideas as toxic and dangerous. All because you believe that accurate cultural depictions are 'bland and boring' doesn't make it so. Maybe try to learn about ethnicities outside of your own without falling back on comfortable and erroneous over-simplifications? What was the last "tribal setting" you visited? lol cray-cray much?

Bonus: ARDENT - nice lexical expansion on what I usually see from you! You get a nickel from the PSAT bank You dug deep on that one...but I have to take 3 cents back for lack of effort in that you repeated the word and only changed it slightly by converting it into an adjective. You could have gone with something like "unequivocally" that second time around, which would have netted you a full dime and offered variety to the reader...

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Originally Posted by Jester

This from the guy who whines about Storm appearing "barefoot and topless" in an African tribal setting.

I wasn't whining. I was pointing out an observation that I made even as a young child. An observation that so very obviously bugged you to the point that you felt the need to "whine"...twice over now.

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Originally Posted by Jester

If you want to argue that the racial politics involved in Beetz's casting didn't contribute to the sequence of events that resulted in an inexperienced stuntwoman being killed because she was hired on the basis of her race rather than her suitability for the job, then you have no grounds to criticize anyone on the basis of "logic."

You see, this is where you fall short; maybe this is a theme with you - dunno. Beetz's casting didn't create the circumstance that lead to that poor woman's death, a death that you obviously don't really care about because if you did you wouldn't have tried to make an inane point using it as a frivolous prop for an incredibly weak argument. The production team made a series of tragically poor decisions all of which were entirely independent of the one made to cast a black woman as Domino. They could have easily made similar decisions leading down the same path had a white woman been cast in the role. Unless, of course, you are presupposing that all white stunt women emerge from the womb popping wheelies on dirt-bikes. Yes, your logic is embarrassingly flawed on a number levels, in my honest opinion.

Hey, just food for thought, it takes a really stilted and insular perspective to try to twist that scenario into an anti-affirmative action argument. It's really not good for the soul. If you don't subscribe to individuals having souls? Then it's not a healthy outlook if you want to continue to evolve as a human - aka an intellectual dead end.

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Originally Posted by Jester

"Stereotype" literally means a "true (solid/tangible/three-dimensional) impression" of a given thing.

LOL uhh, I'm not sure where you pulled this from:

See 2-2 (doesn't quite say what you said, but I guess we all comprehend things differently - "literal" interpretations are on the spectrum, ya know?)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stereotype

https://sites.google.com/a/isd112.or...ebsite-builder


Have a good weekend Jester.


HFC set NABBED! HIP, HIP...

EDIT: HOORAY!

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

HFC set NABBED! HIP, HIP...

EDIT: HOORAY!

You got one for me right? hehe. I kid.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

You got one for me right? hehe. I kid.

Sorry, Nite. One per customer, but for three times retail, maybe we can make a deal!

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Sorry, Nite. One per customer, but for three times retail, maybe we can make a deal!

Haha. Let me grab my leather jacket and barbed wore bat.

[TheBlueMarvel]

Heh, whatever you need to do to raise the funds...I don't judge...

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

Heh, whatever you need to do to raise the funds...I don't judge...

Ha! Ya killin’ me smalls.

[Veronica Mars]

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Haha. Let me grab my leather jacket and barbed wore bat.

Pft Way less Neagan, definitly more Wendy Torrence

[sh002]

Just saw this.

[Starlord67]

Not a fan of the "Deviation" from the Kirby designs but I understand why they did it.

[usernamedustin]

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Originally Posted by Starlord67

Not a fan of the "Deviation" from the Kirby designs but I understand why they did it.

It's been more than two and a half hours and harbinger hasn't posted a rim shot meme yet. It's usually monkey pirate, but you never know.