[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven

Woah, woah, woah … the High Evolutionary is one of my absolute favorite Marvel villains! I’m really elated overall about the new GOTG, but just don’t want to get into it because all MCU discussion at the moment is a minefield of die-hard fans ardently insisting the franchise is dying or is better than ever, with absolutely no room for debate on either.

Also I will absolutely concur with what you and others have said on T’Challa … it seems like a waste of one of Marvel’s greatest heroes not to recast him, as immense as Boseman was. Some of my first Marvel comics were the “Jungle Action” “Panther’s Rage” storyline, so it breaks my heart to think that I don’t get to see more of him… especially with the impending arrival of several of his greatest allies (FF, Daredevil) in the MCU.

So sorry, there are three of us now! Lol

And, yeah, the current polarization really sucks, but thems' the times we're living in.

I'm guilty of 'passion', at times, but I can be talked down off my soapbox pretty easily, if you give me time to think.

[Ultra Seven]

If we were all capable of that level of introspection, I suspect we wouldn’t have half of the problems we do!

In other news, Dorkside is running a terrific sale right now. Bonebreaker wave Havok is ten bucks, among other things.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

So sorry, there are three of us now! Lol

And, yeah, the current polarization really sucks, but thems' the times we're living in.

I'm guilty of 'passion', at times, but I can be talked down off my soapbox pretty easily, if you give me time to think.

And if we cant talk ya down we can always give ya the hook.

[TheBlueMarvel]

You trying to 'Gong Show' me??

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

You trying to 'Gong Show' me??

[Boogieman4hire]

It just hit me but in the latest She-Hulk trailer that pack of teenagers was the Wrecking Crew. If you guys are going to talk about comic to screen translations I hope that's not it for them.

[Runamuck]

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Originally Posted by Nimrod

You think a chubby hispanic dude with lower back flab looks "hot"? I don't know nor care what gender you are but wow, you got low expectations of what you consider "hot".

Luke Evans should have been cast as Namor, and yeah, I know he's gay, that doesn't matter to me, he fit the look of Namor. He's already a fit guy and could easily have buffed up more for the role by packing on another 15lbs of muscle.

Bottom line is the character was miscast & the wrong actor was cast in the played out game of diversity. This movie just went from paying to see it to waiting for it to hit Redbox & using my 75 cent off code to rent it for 85 cents.

Err....it's not low expectations, it's having a different eye for what is sexy. Everyone is slightly different in their preferences. Why? Because we're not all the same. lol That's all that has to be said about that.

[Spyne98]

Hey, Blue Marvel. I'm also a High Evolutionary fan. Just haven't been on much lol

[TheBlueMarvel]

FOUR! Four cookies in the cookie jar!

[Kirathis]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

FOUR! Four cookies in the cookie jar!

Add one more to your list.

[TheBlueMarvel]

FIVE! Five High Evolutionary fans!

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

FIVE! Five High Evolutionary fans!

6,6,6 High evolutionary enthusiasts.

[TheBlueMarvel]

Ok. I was wrong about how many fans there are here.

[Starlord67]

I've been a High E fan since the Avengers tale " Knights of Wundergore!" A classic tale with Byrnes art.

[Ultra Seven]

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Originally Posted by Boogieman4hire

It just hit me but in the latest She-Hulk trailer that pack of teenagers was the Wrecking Crew. If you guys are going to talk about comic to screen translations I hope that's not it for them.

Ugh… I’ve been trying hard to pretend I didn’t see them. :P

Even more unhappy with them because it definitely means they now fall into the “cOmIc vS. mCu BrAnD cOnFuSiOn” black hole that has most recently claimed Attuma & Namora.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven

Even more unhappy with them because it definitely means they now fall into the “cOmIc vS. mCu BrAnD cOnFuSiOn” black hole that has most recently claimed Attuma & Namora.

I don't think you have to worry about Namora or Attuma. I meant to say this when Nash mentioned Attuma's chances of seeing a canon release, but good/bad press/media will only increase the calls for them to be made. That's my opinion, at least. Same goes for the Crew.

[Ultra Seven]

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Originally Posted by TheBlueMarvel

I don't think you have to worry about Namora or Attuma. I meant to say this when Nash mentioned Attuma's chances of seeing a canon release, but good/bad press/media will only increase the calls for them to be made. That's my opinion, at least. Same goes for the Crew.

I hope you’re right. The interview that the Hasbro team gave a while ago where they clarified “brand confusion” was what was keeping us from getting characters like Mantis, Man-Ape, and a host of others was both illuminating and disheartening.

[TheBlueMarvel]

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven

I hope you’re right. The interview that the Hasbro team gave a while ago where they clarified “brand confusion” was what was keeping us from getting characters like Mantis, Man-Ape, and a host of others was both illuminating and disheartening.

For those unfamiliar, as I was until a few minutes ago, the reference to 'comic vs MCU brand confusion' begins at 4:28 (4:59 for the specific reference). Of course, provided this is in fact the conversation/video in question.. EDIT: Sans any mention of Man-Ape or Mantis, this likely isn't the dialogue, but there is a mention of 'brand confusion' and Marvel's preferences.

Well, thanks for that, Ultra, I usually don't tune into this sort of stuff as a deliberate effort to avoid moments like this one. (ignorance is bliss, in this scenario) Disheartening indeed as Marvel seems more adept at cocking things up than they are at delivering splendor. They sit atop a trove of creativity, but rather than ministering like a grand historian, they perch, troll-like, on a commode overtop vast treasures spreading excrement on the precious works they horde. Looks like the Legends team isn't to blame for everything related to character choices within the line. I'm glad that I'm very selective in what I consume in the way of Marvel entertainment. I might start boycotting this mishegoss of multiverses and What if-isms even more so than I have now knowing that it fits into a plan to give me only things slightly adjacent to what I actually want.

[Ultra Seven]

No problem, BM! Thank you for the Shakespearean (or, honestly, Lee-esque) soliloquy, you summed very eloquently the exact problems I’ve had with the MCU for some time. Namely: gah, I am glad someone agrees with me about the ambling, aimless nature of what they’re doing right now! Bonus points for use of the word “mishegosh.” And “things slightly adjacent to what I want” is hilarious.

On the Marvel Legends front, boy it is hard to admit that the Legends team isn’t at fault for everything, isn’t it? I’ve been petulant ever since they announced the AOA wave in 2019 (which I still hold was a mistake). It drove me nuts after watching that interview to admit that I had to be mad at bureaucracy, not the ML team, for the lack of Guardians 3000 figures. That said, we wouldn’t have this problem if the character selection was more in-line with fan demand.

I’m going to conclude by borrowing someone else’s words to summarize my opinions. Here’s a Fwoosh post that highlights my problems with the line:

“It can go both ways. I get that there are a lot of people who are happy to expand the cast of characters for their comic universe shelf, I am one of these people to a point. These 2 are deeps cuts that I've never read a comic they've been in, and I don't find them to be visually engaging enough to be excited about putting them on my shelves.

At this price point, they are even less likely to sell to casual collectors (people looking for more well-known characters) which will not reflect well in sales and hurt future chances of such obscure characters being made. This is where the price increase will really hurt a sub-set of collectors who are anxious to get these D-listers, only to see them sit largely unsold and give retailers pause about ordering waves with lesser known characters in the future. If things continue in this direction, some folks better hope to get their favorite D-lister now, as I don't see it being sustainable the way inflation is going.”

Edit: for the record, the “brand confusion” comment originated earlier, but has been reiterated ad nauseam because, as evidenced by this thread, it got people interested in specifics. I believe it started when they announced Falcon, explaining that they were unable to make him for years due to a contractual request from their licensors not to produce comics versions of secondary MCU characters.

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven

I’ve been petulant ever since they announced the AOA wave in 2019 (which I still hold was a mistake).

Hey, some of us loved getting those. Sure most of them peg-warmed in the long run but that wave (and its follow up) checked off a huge chunk of character variants that I wanted but was doubtful that Hasbro would ever deliver.

[AFU]

Hasbro has been doing better, and I hope the ML line survives. I say this because it’s seems many collectors, including myself, are seeing many cases where the line fell asleep at the whee or could have easily done better on the figures no matter who was in the board room making the decision. For example, Siryn! What a missed opportunity on her!

Note: I almost got her, but from my angle, she felt
Incomplete to me, so I left her on the peg.

[Harbinger]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Hey, some of us loved getting those. Sure most of them peg-warmed in the long run but that wave (and its follow up) checked off a huge chunk of character variants that I wanted but was doubtful that Hasbro would ever deliver.

I really hope somehow we get prelate summers, sonique, Xternals Gambit and xternals jubilee.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Ultra Seven

I’ve been petulant ever since they announced the AOA wave in 2019 (which I still hold was a mistake).

What's wrong with the AoA wave?

[En Sabah Nerd]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

What's wrong with the AoA wave?

People who don't care for or about the AoA didn't like one of the dedicated X-waves of the year (two years in a row) having nothing for them. Any heavily themed wave can be a double-edged sword in that way. I loved the AoA waves (particularly the second) but the House of X Krakoa themed wave was a total pass for me, I'm sure though that some felt the opposite. Different strokes for different folks.

[Captain Nash]

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

People who don't care for or about the AoA didn't like one of the dedicated X-waves of the year (two years in a row) having nothing for them. Any heavily themed wave can be a double-edged sword in that way. I loved the AoA waves (particularly the second) but the House of X Krakoa themed wave was a total pass for me, I'm sure though that some felt the opposite. Different strokes for different folks.

I can see that, for both waves. Personally liked both, but on the other hand if they were to do a "New X-Men" (Morrison's run) wave, I'd probably pass. Everyone has their eras they like and dislike, at least for looks.

The people who felt underwhelmed with the AOA wave, much less two of them, would probably really dislike the fact I feel there's at least another wave's worth, if not a wave and some 2 packs, I'd like to see.

We have none of the Horsemen from that storyline except for Nemesis, who is in need of an update and for the fact that that wave was so hard to find. Quicksilver, Storm, Nightcrawler, Deadman Wade, Gambit, Havok, would all be welcome, and I'd personally also like to see Mystique, Damask, Dazzler and Bishop (who is so underrepresented in wishlists for this storyline, if not for him the timeline would never have reverted back, he's very key to this story.) Exodus, Banshee and Angel would also all be neat but I'm not that chuffed if we don't get them, even with Banshee being a key character in that book.

And all that doesn't get into much of the casts from Generation Next, Gambit & The Externals and X-Man. Hell, we don't even have any from the Gambit and X-ternals or X-Calibre books yet.