New Marvel Legends/6" Appreciation Thread

VonPooten · 10-18-2015, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

Like I said, apparently we're supposed to believe Xavier's death was that damaging to Rogue, which to a degree it should be but not what was shown. At least by the end of UA Rogue and Wanda were friends again. Uncanny X-force was the better read but UA really hooked me with the fact that the villains were actually winning for so long. Most books only let them hold the upper hand for like an issue or two but the Apocalypse twins actually blew up the planet and their plan was going off without a hitch for a while.

Rage of Ultron was the better Avengers story Remender wrote. Just in time for the movie giving Ultron a popularity boost we got this graphic novel that terrifically gave us a new angle on the Hank/Ultron dynamic. The focus on Hank's failures and the shift from a father-son relationship to a mirror one made a ton of sense. The other Avengers were more background noise, except for Vision who actually had a role, but they still got their nice moments to show off.

Yes that was by far the best part of UA, I truly believed that the mutants were going to be transported off planet for good. In regards to the heroes though, it seemed like Remender pulled a Bendis and changed everything to his liking. At least he made Sunfire's AOA look a canon 616 costume!

Ah yes, Rage of Ultron was a delight to read (and you can't say no to some Jerome Opena artwork). Has Hank Pym been seen in the MU since his.. uh.. metamorphosis?

En Sabah Nerd · 10-18-2015, 06:44 PM

I got the checkout person to reduce it to $30 as shown online. Hulk is more fun to mess with than I figured, but I got this for Ultron and Vision and they were worth it. I don't collect too many Legends but the deal was too good to resist. Hasbro's obvious neglect of me and my fellow 4" collectors is driving us to the 6" scale more and more.

Trivial Psychic · 10-18-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by En Sabah Nerd

The whole Eddie Brock turning into Toxin thing was also a dumb mess.

Awww...I actually liked the idea of Brock holding Toxin. It's the closest we can get to having the original Venom still being around (minus the passionate desire to feast on Spider-Man's brains) without having to deal with all that "honorable symbiote race space knight retcon" crap. Now if only they actually gave the character some page time to shine...

That said...I just wish that they would have kept Brock around as Anti-Venom, as that origin/back story was actually quite satisfying and made sense (the whole "accidental by-product of being cured by Mister Negative" thing) as opposed to the Toxin bonding, which was a really weak set up and felt like a cop-out excuse to get Eddie back into a suit. Plus I liked how Anti-Venom would "cure" people of various afflictions, which made his approach towards other heroes and villians far more interesting than the simple brute approach that Toxin has.

En Sabah Nerd · 10-18-2015, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Awww...I actually liked the idea of Brock holding Toxin. It's the closest we can get to having the original Venom still being around (minus the passionate desire to feast on Spider-Man's brains) without having to deal with all that "honorable symbiote race space knight retcon" crap. Now if only they actually gave the character some page time to shine...

That said...I just wish that they would have kept Brock around as Anti-Venom, as that origin/back story was actually quite satisfying and made sense (the whole "accidental by-product of being cured by Mister Negative" thing) as opposed to the Toxin bonding, which was a really weak set up and felt like a cop-out excuse to get Eddie back into a suit. Plus I liked how Anti-Venom would "cure" people of various afflictions, which made his approach towards other heroes and villians far more interesting than the simple brute approach that Toxin has.

I just didn't like how they basically offed the original Toxin on word alone and then didn't even do a very good job with Eddie-Toxin to begin with. Especially that dumb way they made it look like he got killed at the end of his first story since Toxin seemed to be immune to the weaknesses shared by symbiotes in his original story.

I liked Anti-Venom alright, didn't really care for the preachy tone he carried on with and the suit could've been better but the stories with it were good, including his membership on the Revengers.

donmeca2020 · 10-19-2015, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic

Awww...I actually liked the idea of Brock holding Toxin. It's the closest we can get to having the original Venom still being around (minus the passionate desire to feast on Spider-Man's brains) without having to deal with all that "honorable symbiote race space knight retcon" crap. Now if only they actually gave the character some page time to shine...

That said...I just wish that they would have kept Brock around as Anti-Venom, as that origin/back story was actually quite satisfying and made sense (the whole "accidental by-product of being cured by Mister Negative" thing) as opposed to the Toxin bonding, which was a really weak set up and felt like a cop-out excuse to get Eddie back into a suit. Plus I liked how Anti-Venom would "cure" people of various afflictions, which made his approach towards other heroes and villians far more interesting than the simple brute approach that Toxin has.

I was recently in a thread in a comic forum, we were discussing the whole brock/venom/anti venom/ toxin thing. I remember reading they (marvel) killing brock off but apparently they'll be bringing him back on the new Carnage series as toxin.

advocatepinoy · 10-19-2015, 08:40 AM

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En Sabah Nerd · 10-19-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by donmeca2020

I was recently in a thread in a comic forum, we were discussing the whole brock/venom/anti venom/ toxin thing. I remember reading they (marvel) killing brock off but apparently they'll be bringing him back on the new Carnage series as toxin.

No, he's been Toxin for awhile now and they pretty quickly revealed that he survived the explosion. The whole fake-out death was one of the things I particularly disliked about him as Toxin so far because it feels exactly like what happened at the end of Spider-Man 3 which was lame. The in-book design for Brock-Toxin is also bad, he looks like a spaghetti monster. It especially stings since one of the covers he's on basically just makes him classic Venom but red and black instead of black and white.

Byrnes · 10-19-2015, 01:00 PM

With X-men and Apoc related stuff for next year, I'd love to see a security forces 3 pack with Randall, Malcom and either Shard, or I'd take a new Bishop also.

ultraman zoffy · 10-19-2015, 02:48 PM

X-Men related mod for anyone interested... Trying to get rid of old school ball joint hips in my display, so I stuck Toy Biz Legends Xavier's head on a spare Chameleon body and went back to my old TBL Magneto's body and stuck the TRU exclusive Mag's head and arms on (to get rid of the Gorilla look of the old arms). The Xavier head requires some fairly deep dremeling to fit the Chameleon neck peg, but it's easy stuff. Skin tones need to be matched as well. Digging the bulked up armored look on Magneto now compared to the TRU exclusive figure, but I may switch the heads back and forth depending on if I want helmeted or helmetless... anyways, smoke 'em if you got 'em. =)

TheBlueMarvel · 10-19-2015, 06:13 PM

@ultraman zoffy

I always enjoy your 'improvements', Zoffy! You make smart adjustments to figs that I wish Hasbro was insightful enough to implement. Your full-on customs are also noteworthy. That Paul Smith era Cyclops was super-dope! It brought me back to my personal glory days of X-fandom, when I read the books as a child while listening to Eurythmics' Sweet Dreams. lol Now if you'd just be so kind to show us that Phoenix you were working on back when...

Speaking of the Paul Smith era, in combination with the recent convo of Rogue's origins, reminds me of a fig from that time that I really want personally. Can we get a Carol Danvers as Binary? That would really make my day!...a couple of days, really!

ultraman zoffy · 10-19-2015, 06:40 PM

Thanks TBM! Your post made me think of my early exposure to X-men (of course, right at the beginning of Smith's run!) which was basically sneaking into my older cousin's mint comic collection and reading from his stash. =) Phoenix is sitting in storage only half done, but I'll bring her out once I'm in my new house. And yes, BINARY WOULD BE SICK! Might need to take that one some day.

Phantomcrow · 10-19-2015, 07:31 PM

Binary would be cool and all , but WHEN will I get to have the Heralds of Galactus ( and I mean the classic ones not all that newer weird ones) ???? Firelord, Airwalker, Frankie Raye/Nova, and Morg.

Black Arbor · 10-19-2015, 08:02 PM

Finally got my hands on a Scarlet Spider, and I've gotta say, he's one of those perfectly executed Marvel Legends! No weird veins on his pecs (Bucky Cap) or leathery feet with smooth shins (Daredevil) or trigger fingers on characters that don't use guns (Ghost Rider) As you can tell, I'm very picky

ChuckSass · 10-19-2015, 08:09 PM

It would be awesome if we got Binary, Rambeau or Classic/Dark Ms. Marvel in a Walgreen's exclusive

speaking of dreams, A dream Captain Marvel line would be
Movie Captain Marvel
Classic/Dark Ms Marvel
Kamala Kahn
Mar-Vell
Monica Rambeau swap with America Chavez
Kree Soldier

TheBlueMarvel · 10-19-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantomcrow

Binary would be cool and all , but WHEN will I get to have the Heralds of Galactus ( and I mean the classic ones not all that newer weird ones) ???? Firelord, Airwalker, Frankie Raye/Nova, and Morg.

I cosign this...hell, I made a whole thread dedicated to essentially this opinion nearly two years ago...however, now, it's all about X-talk..everywhere (all sites). At least I worked cosmic Marvel in there with Binary! The next GotG movie will likely renew interest...or if the unthinkable happens and Marvel green-lights FF's pantheon again...oh yeah, but they (FF) aren't popular enough according to the general consensus of the internet!

Kirathis · 10-20-2015, 12:32 AM

@Phantomcrow & @TBM

I really need to go back and read the older cosmic stuff. I never read it during the days of Binary or most of those Heralds. That being said....I will still back you both for those and hope that (continuing to beat the dead horse...seriously this thing is glue by now) my DnA Guardians come along for the ride.

As for FF, I'm cool with that too simply since that unlocks more Skrulls and what not...oh and TBM needs another Silver Surfer LOL!

Speaking of, what would you think of the pizza Spidey buck for Surfer? I prefer the leaner swimmer physique Surfer and that buck would work well for surfing poses.

Spyne98 · 10-20-2015, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ultraman zoffy

X-Men related mod for anyone interested... Trying to get rid of old school ball joint hips in my display, so I stuck Toy Biz Legends Xavier's head on a spare Chameleon body and went back to my old TBL Magneto's body and stuck the TRU exclusive Mag's head and arms on (to get rid of the Gorilla look of the old arms). The Xavier head requires some fairly deep dremeling to fit the Chameleon neck peg, but it's easy stuff. Skin tones need to be matched as well. Digging the bulked up armored look on Magneto now compared to the TRU exclusive figure, but I may switch the heads back and forth depending on if I want helmeted or helmetless... anyways, smoke 'em if you got 'em. =)

Wow! Awesome! I might try this. Thank for showing it!

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Speaking of, what would you think of the pizza Spidey buck for Surfer? I prefer the leaner swimmer physique Surfer and that buck would work well for surfing poses.

I think that would look really good!

Captain Nash · 10-20-2015, 07:56 AM

A Binary would be cool, I would buy that. I really like the idea for the Captain Marvel wave/set. Anything to get us a Monica R. figure in any style would be great - she's one of the few I like her classic iconic look as much as her current look as Spectrum, so either would be fine by me.

Exodus · 10-20-2015, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrnes

With X-men and Apoc related stuff for next year, I'd love to see a security forces 3 pack with Randall, Malcom and either Shard, or I'd take a new Bishop also.

I would be totally down for that!!! Awesome pack either size too.

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Originally Posted by Phantomcrow

Binary would be cool and all , but WHEN will I get to have the Heralds of Galactus ( and I mean the classic ones not all that newer weird ones) ???? Firelord, Airwalker, Frankie Raye/Nova, and Morg.

Yup another cool pack as well, although I guess I would only get this in the 3.75 line considering I don't have that Thanos one any more.

TheBlueMarvel · 10-20-2015, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirathis

@Phantomcrow & @TBM

I really need to go back and read the older cosmic stuff. I never read it during the days of Binary or most of those Heralds. That being said....I will still back you both for those and hope that (continuing to beat the dead horse...seriously this thing is glue by now) my DnA Guardians come along for the ride.

As for FF, I'm cool with that too simply since that unlocks more Skrulls and what not...oh and TBM needs another Silver Surfer LOL!

Speaking of, what would you think of the pizza Spidey buck for Surfer? I prefer the leaner swimmer physique Surfer and that buck would work well for surfing poses.

Thank you for reminding me that we have gone far too long without discussing a new SURFER!

Here. We. Go.

My iconic artists for Silver Surfer are Jack 'King' Kirby, John Buscema, and Ron Lim. All of these artists captured what I believe to be the best look for Surfer. My recollections of King Kirby's version of the Silver Surfer, while surely no 'Thor', was of a broad shouldered and thickly corded/muscled body type. Norrin definitely seemed larger than the Human Torch, who in my opinion, is closer in size to Spider-Man. John Buscema's rendition of Marvel's sentinel of the spaceways ushered in a thinner version that may capture more of the look to which you alluded. That's said, Surfer shared the same physique that the Buscema family used for Iron Man and Vision body-types: not ripped nor enormous, but imposing and larger than average. Ron Lim's run on Surfer, which created iconic looks for both Surfer and Thanos, featured Mr. Radd as a combination of King Kirby's and John Buscema's take on the hero. Lim's Surfer was highly vascular, corded, and graceful looking all at once. I'm not suggesting that Surfer hasn't been depicted as a lithe figure within comics (John Byrne had a great take, although slightly 'gaunt-Surfer'), I'm simply stating that he was initially portrayed as otherwise and has been depicted as imposing (if not overwhelming) in equal measure.

With my (note the use of "my": these are subjective takes not absolutes) 'look' out of the way, I'll now address the proper buck. Let me start by saying that I LOVE Pizza Spidey. He represents Spidey in my favorite incarnation: Spider-Man who is no longer a teen, with the fully formed and filled out physique of an athletic post-college aged male. If you look at John Romita Jr illustrations of Spidey circa the 80's (the height of his work on Spidey IMO), you'll see 'Pizza Spidey'. The buck is great and the added shoulder articulation would be wonderful for the Surfer. However, the buck tracks a tad too small. This would be similar (but far from the same given the poor sculpt) to Hasbro's mistake in using that Surfer/Vision/Claw sculpt. The Surfer is not small, petite, or even average in build nor height (although it has become popular to depict him so). Is the Surfer smaller than Daredevil? Is Surfer smaller than Hawkeye? Is the Surfer smaller than Panther? Is the Surfer smaller than Machine Man? Wolverine? Again, the Pizza Spidey buck is hands down one of the best (if not THE best) bucks Hasbro has ever cobbled and I adore it. If Hasbro used Pizza-Spidey for Surfer, it wouldn't be a deal breaker given the shoulder articulation, but I want more...at the very least, that Panther buck.

Captain Nash · 10-20-2015, 01:24 PM

We absolutely need a new Silver Surfer, for the very reasons that TBM laid out. Surfer is not a hulking bulk of muscle but he's not a petite swimmer's build either. I think the Grim Reaper bulk would look great on him.

If F4 figures are going to make a reappearance, which I hope they are, I will hold out hope for two figures mainly: Wizard and Attuma. Attuma I'd love to see as a BAF - he, Giant Man/Atlas and Kingpin are the non-X-related BAF's I'd love to see. And Wizard would complete the main players in the Acts Of Vengeance storyline, as far as villains go. Although I would not complain about a new Mandarin either (just not the damn movie "version" please..grumble mumble...)

ultraman zoffy · 10-20-2015, 01:30 PM

Looking back at Ron Lim's artwork (which to me is definitive Surfer), the Bucky Cap mold would best suit him. I think I'll experiment using the Target 3-pack clear Vision as a Surfer base and see how that works out.

redfox · 10-20-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckSass

Speaking of dreams, A dream Captain Marvel line would be
Movie Captain Marvel
Classic/Dark Ms Marvel
Kamala Kahn
Mar-Vell
Monica Rambeau swap with America Chavez
Kree Soldier

Hmmm, that's an interesting thought. I'm really intrigued to see if Hasbro will give Captain Marvel her own wave when her movie debuts.

VonPooten · 10-20-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckSass

It would be awesome if we got Binary, Rambeau or Classic/Dark Ms. Marvel in a Walgreen's exclusive

speaking of dreams, A dream Captain Marvel line would be
Movie Captain Marvel
Classic/Dark Ms Marvel
Kamala Kahn
Mar-Vell
Monica Rambeau swap with America Chavez
Kree Soldier

The perfect series! You're mentioning of her has made me realise how great an America Chavez figure would be. I'm also surprised that Hasbro hasn't jumped on the popularity train yet and showcased Kamala Kahn, Jane Foster Thor and Sam Wilson Cap figures.

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Originally Posted by Captain Nash

A Binary would be cool, I would buy that. I really like the idea for the Captain Marvel wave/set. Anything to get us a Monica R. figure in any style would be great - she's one of the few I like her classic iconic look as much as her current look as Spectrum, so either would be fine by me.

Her Spectrum look was alright, but now that she's added a trench coat it looks fantastic. Cool superhero with a hint of Nextwave.

Phantomcrow · 10-20-2015, 05:19 PM

Where is my Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. SDCC box set???? THAT would be amazing!!
Dirk Anger
Elsa Bloodstone
The Captain
Monica Rambeau
Tabitha Smith
Aaron Stack

10-18-2015, 06:44 PM	#10152
En Sabah Nerd Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 9,789	I got the checkout person to reduce it to $30 as shown online. Hulk is more fun to mess with than I figured, but I got this for Ultron and Vision and they were worth it. I don't collect too many Legends but the deal was too good to resist. Hasbro's obvious neglect of me and my fellow 4" collectors is driving us to the 6" scale more and more. __________________

10-18-2015, 07:24 PM	#10154
En Sabah Nerd Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 9,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Trivial Psychic Awww...I actually liked the idea of Brock holding Toxin. It's the closest we can get to having the original Venom still being around (minus the passionate desire to feast on Spider-Man's brains) without having to deal with all that "honorable symbiote race space knight retcon" crap. Now if only they actually gave the character some page time to shine... That said...I just wish that they would have kept Brock around as Anti-Venom, as that origin/back story was actually quite satisfying and made sense (the whole "accidental by-product of being cured by Mister Negative" thing) as opposed to the Toxin bonding, which was a really weak set up and felt like a cop-out excuse to get Eddie back into a suit. Plus I liked how Anti-Venom would "cure" people of various afflictions, which made his approach towards other heroes and villians far more interesting than the simple brute approach that Toxin has. I just didn't like how they basically offed the original Toxin on word alone and then didn't even do a very good job with Eddie-Toxin to begin with. Especially that dumb way they made it look like he got killed at the end of his first story since Toxin seemed to be immune to the weaknesses shared by symbiotes in his original story. I liked Anti-Venom alright, didn't really care for the preachy tone he carried on with and the suit could've been better but the stories with it were good, including his membership on the Revengers. __________________

10-19-2015, 08:40 AM	#10156
advocatepinoy Filipino Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Philippines Posts: 607	Got a new Behind-The-Scenes look of this set here: https://goo.gl/GmOSvn Also, if you want to check out the customized Noh-Varr piece, you can check it out here: https://goo.gl/9oHCEa Marvel's Dark Avengers by Dominic Dimagmaliw, on Flickr Marvel's Dark Avengers by Dominic Dimagmaliw, on Flickr

10-19-2015, 10:48 AM	#10157
En Sabah Nerd Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 9,789	Quote: Originally Posted by donmeca2020 I was recently in a thread in a comic forum, we were discussing the whole brock/venom/anti venom/ toxin thing. I remember reading they (marvel) killing brock off but apparently they'll be bringing him back on the new Carnage series as toxin. No, he's been Toxin for awhile now and they pretty quickly revealed that he survived the explosion. The whole fake-out death was one of the things I particularly disliked about him as Toxin so far because it feels exactly like what happened at the end of Spider-Man 3 which was lame. The in-book design for Brock-Toxin is also bad, he looks like a spaghetti monster. It especially stings since one of the covers he's on basically just makes him classic Venom but red and black instead of black and white. __________________

10-19-2015, 08:09 PM	#10164
ChuckSass Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,236	It would be awesome if we got Binary, Rambeau or Classic/Dark Ms. Marvel in a Walgreen's exclusive speaking of dreams, A dream Captain Marvel line would be Movie Captain Marvel Classic/Dark Ms Marvel Kamala Kahn Mar-Vell Monica Rambeau swap with America Chavez Kree Soldier __________________ Last edited by ChuckSass; 10-20-2015 at 04:34 AM..